₦airaland Forum

Omoluabi16:
Why can't we all just live together and be happy? now people want to fight for land again.

live together with someone who wants to steal lands or cause problems? God forbid.

myplaydiary:
Una neva chi chum chin... I hope you did'nt include Igboland in the SS in your delusional Nger delta republic

you no get sense? Where did you see igbos in my post? I wonder how some of you reason at time.

DozieInc:
Tonye is here.

he should answer the questions I've been asking?

aljharem:
Ijaws have NO part of ondo state. They are migrants. Take note

Both the apoi and arogbo ijaw have no land in ondo or western delta.

really? So they have no local government area in ondo state?

ipobarecriminals:
.Then u'll go with IPOB/jews

we are not going anywhere with anyone.

I stumbled into a thread today here on nairaland showing the Ijaws carrying placards claiming Gelegele belongs them. I want to first start by asking start by asking tonyebarcanista and all other so called Ijaw here on nairaland how does "Gelegele" which is clearly Bini in nature suddenly now belongs to the Ijaws? If Gelegele belongs to the Ijaws, how come Ijaws are not counted amongst the 17 known ethnic groups in Edo state but Ebira is recognized as an ethnic group in Edo state?

Secondly, whom did the British, Portuguese and Dutch traders and explorers make contact with when they first arrived Benin Kingdom? Who directed the Europeans through Gelegele into Benin kingdom? What connects the Binis and the Ijaws like the Urhobos and the Itsekiris? Are the Binis and the Ijaws culturally, geographically, religiously or linguistically linked in any way? Is the Izon language an Edo dialect like the Urhobos?

Thirdly, if Gelegele belongs to the Ijaws how come there's an Enogie there and not an Ijaw king? How come the towns in Gelegele community all have Bini names and not Ijaw names? Finally, why are Ijaws naturally land grabbing? Why do you always insult the hospitality of everywhere you go? If it's Aladja today it's Olomu or Ilajes or Arepo or Ajegunle tomorrow? I've always been against Igbos lumping any ethnic group in the Niger Delta into their proposed Biafra but from what I'm seeing Ijaws are the biggest and worst land grabbers. I can also see why the so called Niger Delta Avengers are hell-bent on creating a so called Niger Delta. The aim of creating a so called Niger Delta Republic is an avenue to steal and grab the lands of other ethnic groups. All through the history of the Ijaws it has always being about fighting their host or neighbours. Was it Ubeji, Ajegunle, Ilaje, Arepo, Aladja, Olomu and now the Gelegele which is clearly Bini.

My advice to every Ijaw is this. No portion or inch of land in Edo state would be given to the Ijaws. Ijawland starts from Bayelsa, parts of Rivers and ends in parts of Ondo. Any attempt to encroach into any land in Edo state would be met with not only a heavy resistance but a very brutal one at that. You Ijaws are beginning to overstep your boundaries and it's time every ethnic group in the South South stand up to land grabbers like you. We the Binis are not the Itsekiris, the Urhobos, the Ikwerres, the Ogonis or the Yorubas whom you try this antic with. Having a fight with the Binis would spell doom to the Ijaws.

iSlayer2:
Oh shut up. The Ijaw have set themselves up for insults in this county. From acute backwardness to criminality to laziness to foolishness and too many to count. They've brought this on themselves. Tell me, what is the good thing spoken about Ijaw in this country?! C'mon gerrahere

Bros I am a Bini man and I swear on this day that if the Ijaws cross their boundary and think we the Urhobos or Itsekiris or Ilajes or Yorubas or Ogonis or ikwerres they do their nuisance with, then they have another thing coming. We won't tolerate any stranger trying to grab our lands.

Ugomba:
Benin People should stop the ijaw land grabbers. Look at the thread I created last year about Ijaw Secret Plan to colonize South South in the name of Niger Delta Republic.
https://www.nairaland.com/2855171/ijaws-secret-agenda-niger-delta
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As an Asaba man, I have always maintain the stand that "COUNT ANIOMA LAND/DELTA NORTH Out of any dumb Niger delta republic.
I know the land grabbing tactics of the Ijaws very well.

I have always insulted you on nairaland but now I can see what you were saying all these while. Ijaws are a land grabbing bunch and woe betide any ijaw who decides to go to war with we the Binis. If the ijaws want war we would give them war. Ijaws are gradually becoming a nuisance. To hell with Niger Delta Republic.

martineverest:
we don't need to waste time fighting them physically.... Spiritual power is enough. They think we are ogonis and itsekiris

Bros as in eh. These idiots have the audacity to want to drag land with the Binis. E don set for them. They're going to learn the very hard way.

martineverest:
ozuor

Bros eh I swear if these ijaw people try any nonsense with us e go too cast for them. We the Binis are equally ready for them.

Dera100:
d ijaws occupy most riverine areas in South South and South East...dey are in Anambra Enugu rivers edo Bayelsa edo and some part of Ondo states....d two tribe should find d a way to coexist

there won't any coexistence between we the Binis and the land grabbing ijaws. The last time they tried this their land grabbing ish in Ubeji, they met what they didn't expect. Ijaws are fond of always trying to create a rift wherever they are. Ask yourself when last ijaws lived in peace with any of its neighbours? I'm not a fan of violence but Ijaw as a tribe are pushing their luck too far. It's becoming too much. We the Binis have respect for royalty and that's why we went straight to the place. Ijaws should respect themselves. If they know they can't live in Edo state peacefully, they should kindly join their people in Bayelsa or Rivers or Delta. I'm sure they would be very much happy to receive them.

TonyeBarcanista:
That Gelegele is within the geopolitical landmass of Edo state doesn't stop it from being the territory of the Ijaw nation.

Anyway, there is no need to fan the embers of war (though the Ijaws are never known for cowardice). Both groups should sit down and solve it like gentlemen or approach the law court.

now I can see clearly through your deceit. Look Mr tonyebarcanista you better tell your fellow ogongoro drinking lazy fishermen brothers that the Binis are not the Urhobos or Itsekiris or Ilajes or Yorubas. If they want war we would give them war. If they want to test the mettle of the Binis they should cross their boundary. Bayelsa, parts of Rivers, Delta and Ondo are Ijawland. Ijawland does not extend to any part of Edo state. We the Binis would deal decisively with any ijaw land grabber.

debbie223:
I wonder why people who know nothing about the ijaws keep badmouthing them just tru hear-say,if there's triae dathas been oppressed in dis country its the ijaws,years back they kept quiet out of ignorance but now they have decided that they will not allow anytribe to oppress them again,if they dont have proof of ownership they won't make trouble,because they always fight 4 a just course,if u dnt av anything to type just keep moving and dont stop and nobody should like,quote or mention me kos dat person go kpeme

I'll love them to test their mettle against the Binis and let's see how far it would go. Ijaws are land grabbers and shouldn't provoke the Binis cos they'll just wake a sleeping beast and that would spell doom for the ijaws.

The ijaws are gradually becoming a nuisance in not just the South South but Nigeria in general. Ijaws should trend carefully cos we the Binis are not the Urhobos or Itsekiris or the Yorubas or the Ikwerres or Ogonis or Ilajes who they try this their land grabbing attitude towards. Ijaws would be in for a very big surprise if they don't take their time and respect themselves. Ijaws have no land in Edo state and will never have any. Not even a portion of any land in Edo state would be given to the Ijaws. I think it's time every tribe in the South South unite and chase Ijaws out of their land. Bayelsa is Ijawland and not Edo state. Even the name Gelegele is not even Ijaw. Ijaws take your time. Don't be fooled by the dane guns you have and think the Binis are a walkover.

Very good point my brother. I'm currently purchasing quality designer clothes, shoes and fashion accessories with the help of my wife from Germany, South Korea, Japan, China, USA and Canada to stock my retail store which is something I would love to do at my own spare time.

Didn't she know all of these she married him?

exeasy:
So if someone were to try what kemen did on your daughter or close relative you won't react? 9ja and hypocrisy. And by the way, how did you know all this if you don't watch BBN.

Mr exeasy or whatever you call yourself I don't have a daughter but a son and I'm very sure none of my daughters would even participate in that trash called BBN. Where's the hypocrisy in what I said? Am I no longer entitled to my opinions again? What's my business if any of my relatives decide to participate in BBN? Don't they have the right to make their own choices again? I recently saw some of the clips on Facebook and that's how I got to know about it. Look here. Face front if you have nothing to say.

I don't watch BBN but from what I could deduce Kemen did absolutely nothing wrong. Kemen neither raped or sexually harassed her. What's with this whole moral ish? Na today? Didn't Coco Ice bare her unattractive breasts for Bassey to suck? Haven't Tboss show the world her breasts on live TV before? So what's the Biggie here? Haven't Bisola and TTT hit it more than once before? BBN and Payporte are just been stupid and hypocritical.

cheruv:
That's exactly what I tell them on Facebook... Anything Edoid should be expunged from Biāfra either urhobo or isoko or jekri,they should be shown the door...in fact they'd be better under the oba as they've been before the catastrophe of 1897. The only Ijo I'd support to be in Biāfra are those from Rivers state...those from bayelsa and Delta should be better off under ewuare II's regime.

no Edoid group would even want to be part of your Biafra pipe dream? If you're not sick in the head why bring up biafra issue in a topic or thread that's clearly not linked with anything biafra? Your obsession with the Binis and Edoid people would lead to the cause of your madness. Pls remove Edo people from your stupidity. Are Edo people begging to be part of your biafra? Are the Urhobos or the Isokos or ijaws or any other ethnic group in the SS begging to be part of biafra? Respect yourself mister. I thought Seun clearly stated that no talking about secession on nairaland? What is mynd44 doing about this nuisance?

Low self esteem and inferiority complex are the reasons why anyone would refuse speaking their native dialects. Africans and especially Nigerians are fond of discarding and seeing their culture as inferior. My dad is already speaking Bini to my child as little as he is. My wife is not Nigerian but speaks Bini though not as you would expect but to a certain level.

I'm not ashamed but proud to be African and I'll always show my Africanness by speaking my language. Who ever doesn't like it should go skydive without a parachute or jump off a cliff.

There's absolutely nothing wrong with waist beads. I honestly don't know how many of you on this forum reason. Why always attach religion or negative to something that has always been part and parcel of the African way of life? Now I see why many of our languages and way of life are fast dying simply because we want to emulate the West. Emancipate yourselves from Mental slavery.

OlaoChi:
I am both Igbo and Yoruba, from towns with ties to Bini. If you cannot comprehend mixed heritage then you have a big problem

Then you will be training your kids to be fools

shut up. You have no tie with the Binis. I reject it in Jesus name. Stay in your ewedu republic. We dont want you guys close to us. God forbid.

OlaoChi:
Dahomey and well over 80% of southern nigeria was never subject to Bini,

Akoko, Akure/eastern ekiti (off and on due to the ever frequent refusal to acknowledge Bini), Itsekiri(off and on too), Anioma(delta Igbo)/Onitsha, Lagos island(restricted to the Bini descendants, the Idejo never paid any tribute to Bini), Esan: these were the areas Bini had authority over, not an empire with an Impressive size
the fascination with Bini is not in its empire but Kingdom art, nothing more
it will be wise for you not to train children with this ethnic supremacy attitude

if you think I am wrong please do not just respond with empty words but bring academic proof along

shut your gutter. A yoruba man masquerading as a. Igbo man. I'll train my kids to see yorubas as what I deem necessary.

martineverest:
its a spanish-speaking north-western african region in morrocco dat have been seeking independence from morrocco.but morrocan govt refused to grant them independence

Morocco wants Spain to return Ceuta and in return Morocco would free Western Sahara.

Oba Gha To Kpere. ISEEEEEEE. The Gelegele seaport would no doubt boost trade in Edo state.

gbegemaster:
One Enogie tiff my land for Benin

go and report him to the palace. This oba is a no nonsense person. He would return your land to you if you're the rightful owner.

O0ni:
I beg you in the name of Osanobua & Ogiso, please list the area Bini empire covered.

According to: https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Benin_Empire



Note that the page was clearly written and edited by Bini people.

Ondo - Akoko areas.

Ibo land - Onitsha area.

Lagos - Obalende & Island.

Are these all that mae up the 'great enpire'? Like seriously?

Please be civil.

the Benin empire went as far as the whole of Southern Nigeria to Dahomey which present day Benin Republic to Togo.

AreaFada2:
That is the truth.

These Benin Empire deniers are like anti-semitic holocaust deniers. They are jealous children of hate. They are so pained that they like to paint their poo as gold and others as nothing. But in so doing they expose their deep-seated insecurities in the face of overwhelming facts.

When they were not allowed to claim Benin as part of Yorubaland & Benin arts as their, they suddenly went about a hate campaign of empire denial. Suddenly they came with Sungbo Eredo as larger than Benin moats and ramparts. Even the Chinese are still struggling to prove that Chinese wall (a country of around 1.4 billion people) are still struggling to convince the world that their walls are larger than Benin Earth works. By the time Udo town moats and other town walls/moats are fully studied, the Chinese will be no match even.

Why Benin gives them so much nightmares & sleepless nights is beyond me.

They hype themselves like empty barrels & noise makers. Luckily we understand their nature from history and deal with them with a barge pole.

See how they are hyping their VP now. They are carelessly & boastfully exposing their main purpose of hyping/supporting Buhari initially. They were so envious of Jonathan's providence that they impatiently wanted one for themselves too. They cannot even wait for Buhari to answer God's call first. Since only God knows who will go first. Not necessarily by age or obvious health status.

The careless empire denier there called Oba an illiterate. I know his former UK university and is by no means a low ranking school. His school mates I know went on to work for some of the biggest multi-nationals worldwide. The Prince himself excelled in business & went on to become Nigerian Ambassador to many countries. I also personally knew some Nigerian ambassadors in Europe (one even was Yoruba, who I will not name for privacy sake) in the 1990s, and none had a better education than the Prince.

Ordinarily, I would not mind their envy but lots of sensible silent readers visit Nairaland so records have to be set straight.

The most funny thing is when they quote their pioneer empire denier writers mostly from Ibadan Press as authority. I do not know how they expect those to impress even a primary school boy from Benin.

you've said it all my brother. Domor sir. It was even a Bini Prince known as Ekaladeran that even took these confused yorubas out of the dark ages were he ruled as their king. I don't buy that nonsense of someone falling from the sky and creating what is now called yorubas. How can someone with all their education claim someone fell from the sky to start a generation? These guys must be some special kind of ignorant. Binis and the igbos only had a rocky relationship during the civil war. Binis never sold their people or even those they conquered into slavery. That's why the British respect us till this day. But these uneducated cocoa farmers gladly and willingly sold their own people into slavery. Binis would always be superior to the yorubas. Oba gha to kpere. ISEEEEEEE.

AreaFada2:
So in your micro-cephalic brain, a UK trained former diplomat is an illiterate while the product of cramming, pamphlet buying, cultist den & lecturer settling (aka failed education system) like you is a scholar. Clap for yourself. That alone shows that your attempt at intellectualism, quoting various mushroom publications, is an exercise in futility. Without merit whatsoever.

In your mind, your most powerful Kingdom (Oyo) will just as a matter of picnic come to Otun in Ekiti to plant trees & demarcate territory. Hahaaha! It shows you only go round quoting mostly ethno-centric books that pander to your ego.

Benin can never want anything from Yoruba land. We made that clear by democratically leaving South West barely 3 years after independence. Because we always knew that the contraption called Nigeria was, is and remains a massive aberration. That is why we never deliberately signed any treaty to cede power to the British or anybody. The proof of the pudding is in the eating. Water will gradually find its level.

The war the Ijebus fought, important to them for sure and a rare thing, it was of little consequence to the amalgamation of Nigeria.

To the point that even your kinsman Ola Rotimi spurned it and wrote about Ononramwen N'ogbaisi instead. A mere footnote in history is Ijebu fight.

We do not even need to attach to former slave diaspora for attention. We never sold ourselves into slavery.

So you really believe Ogedengbe if truly in a position of strength will just be persuaded by begging to attack Benin. Oh boy, your hero Ogedengbe simply chickened out like the cowards that abound in your area when realised the herculean task ahead of him. Forget that thing. Pure bobos.

Nothing you can about The Great Benin Empire. It is part of extra-ordinary human heritage and intelligence in governance, warfare, arts, culture, civilisation, organisation and more thought impossible for a black man.

As for our women, in life it is good to know your worth. We already did centuries ago by selling no slaves. If a woman must ply the oldest profession on earth, I hundred times prefer a woman hawking her wares for hard currency in international league than for a plate of Amala & ewedu bought by for her by an agbero. If you must eat frog, eat a fat one with plenty of meat. Even the most successful Nigerian footballers sold their kills in the foreign leagues: Okocha, Kanu, Obafemi Martins, Mikael, Peter Odemwingie, late Keshi & Yekini, etc.

Back in local league, the Benin chic called Itohan (with hustle names Wuraola & Zainab) still got your most eligible monarch, Ooni of Ife as hubby. So whatever our women have seem quite in demand. Therefore the joke is on you.

That Benin was betrayed by the relatives of Afonja, mostly likely behind the back of the Benin Prince that is Olu of Warri, should not surprise anyone. After all they routinely betray themselves.

Next time the BBC or any other foreign channel is extolling the glorious feats of ancient Benin Empire, you can smash your TV, your gen or set the your house ablaze in fit of jealous rage. If it's a local TV station rush to their studio in anger, randomly pick out any number of them and start biting their nyansh.

But at the end the antics of an inconsequential tribalist will remain a mere comic relief.

the painful part of these who propaganda by the Yorubas is that they know the truth but tribalism, inferiority complex and low self esteem will never allow them say the truth. Amongst the 7 greatest African empires of medieval times, the Oyo empire was not included but the Benin, Axum, Mali, Songhai, Mossi, Ethiopian empires and the kingdom of Ghana were all included. I honestly don't know where these yorubas get their useless facts but I'm very happy that you always show the stupidity of these people here on nairaland. Binis are not in the same class as the yorubas. We are above them. The only thing they have is numbers and if they try any nonsense with us, we would annex the whole of Yoruba land in a jiffy.

I usually don't make comments on things like these but the truth must be told. Are you this desperate? Why is it difficult to find a Nigerian girl with dreams? Is marriage a life time achievement for you girls?

Maje Ayida should not only sue for damages but also make Toke Makinwa issued an unresolved apology to his person. Toke went too far. If she felt aggrieved she should have channeled it to the appropriate authorities and not making a mountain out of a tea cup. Is she the first person to have had a bad marriage? Why are the likes of Toke, Tonto and the average Nigerian girl fond of playing victims whenever a relationship goes bad? From what I'm seeing Maje might just be the victim here. No man dissolves a marraige overnight. They might have been things he may have been enduring in silence that he didn't want the world to know.

martineverest:
na mumu dey worry d guy.him don implicate himself with d act...lawyers cant defend him when the lecturer file a suit....nonetheless,na God catch d lecturers.they think they are demigods

I'm telling you bros. But these lecturers are something else. Even some of my relatives who school in Nigeria are always complaining. Will the university claim they're not aware of these nefarious activities committed by some of these randy lecturers?