Righteousness89:
The Law is For Everyone!

If the Phcn Oga was in the USA or some sane Nation, will he flout the orders?

His company is a power distribution company. They are essential duty staff

Ruggedniggaone:
I'm very sure wike will not carry out all these threats he just want to scared everybody away from coming to rivers state now or from flouting the state government orders

You dont know Wike, He has done so man

tad360degrees:
The Holy Ghost visited Paul and Silas in Prison when they prayed and sang inturn, helped other people even the guard.
God came to Moses in Mount Horeb as a burning bush when he least expected.
Christ healed the sick, raised the dead and fed multitudes with physical food and spiritual food.
In the new testament it is clear that no man can get to God except through Jesus Christ.
I will not judge Papa G.O or condemn him, its one's choice to speak or do as they please... but one thing Ive been able to deduce from all these blogs is that the reality of heaven and hell is not the core. The fact that Jesus is coming soon is not emphasized especially from 'BIG' Churches
Assuming this was the rapture that got us unaware, how do we do then? Remember judgment will start from the churches and in the end they will say they did say they did great works in the name of Jesus but Christ will say to them I know you not ,depart...
I remember during shiloh programmes papa always say nobody gave him anything for his church to stand , I said to myself " that's not a very pleasant statement from a supposed gentleman".... In foreign nations, churches adhere to government rules afterall GOD has made the same govt. to be a lil passive with church activities
In conclusion, don't speak for Papa coz he may not know your name, don't speak against him coz he is old enough to be you Dad.
Follow Christ instruction by giving to the poor.
Enlighten People about the love of God and to safety measures amidst this COVID malady.
Forgive more and do the best you can to talk to God like a friend to remember you in his Ultimate Kingdom...
Thank You all...

I assume you have certain reservations about what he said but you are being careful because of the respect you have for him.
Will that be correct?

MERCHANDISER:
mugu

What did the country gain when those said churches were open.
Whether they open church or close church, your concern should be how well you are growing and it is the personal work that you do in secret that shows forth.
Not all who go to church hear the word and act upon them.
Jesus even confirmed that.
This country is filled with a bunch of very religious but unspiritual people.
The same people that will go to the church are the ones that cant even maintain physical distancing at ATMs, and disobey even the smallest instruction.
Make una continue

honeyB2018:
Pastor Poju, is 100% wrong. I'm not surprised he can spew this nonsense.
Lots of people, don't see and understand what Bishop Oyedepo and Pastor Oyakhilome Chris is seeing and talking about. Lots of you, toeing the line of thought of Pastor Oyemade, don't know, the power of the cooperate church. If you know, you will not be in his support.
You don't know, what damage, spiritually the closure of the place of worship has done to lots of believers, lots of Christians will never be the same after this lockdown and closure Wait till the closure is lifted, then you will understand.
I stand with Bishop Oyedepo and Pastor Chris. Oyakhilome.

He spoke with references and bible verses, dont just stand with anyone, quote scriptures and references

highflyer012020:


you are a foolish and ignorant, for addressing Bishop Oyedepo. the more you isolate and prevent the church from gathering, the more the number of covid 19 continue to rise. the better the government understand that corporate prayer is a pancea to stop the plague the better. medical workers are even victims of convid 19, but when corporate prayers is permitted. God take over.

i know wisdom is far from you cos you reason from your anus, you will still disagree with me

Ode!!!, so its only in Nigeria that cases will contiue to rise because of physical distancing measures.
Say it out where you and ask anyone close to you how you sound.
They will call you whay you are

Mizwisdom:



If you have a house but your children expect you to visit them instead what will you do?

You are foolish

Mizwisdom:
He's very right. If NAS can resume and offices are open, also Markets, what is the rational behind keeping the Church closed? I can understand primary & secondary schools being closed but I just can't understand why the insistence on keeping Churches closed if not satan agenda

Lol Satans agenda indeed, you peoe are truly funny

abtogroup:

Can you see yourself, you would have made a lot of sense if you don't insult papa, but you really sound f.oolish right now. And the way am looking at you, you are dead on arrival.

Funny you, Oyedepo thug, defender of Papa

12inchess:
I know a lot of people will say "Touch not my annointed and do my prophets no harm...." but sometimes the truth must just be said. I know this post may be a little long but please be patient, I'm driving at a very crucial point. One disclaimer is that I'm not a bible scholar but I have a fair understanding of some of this things I talk about from my reading the bible.

First to make it clear. I know DaddyFreeze has over-explained this but I will restate it again. The tithe that a lot of people are paying is an old testament law to feed and provide for the Levites who did not do any commercial work. The Levites was a tribe of priests whose sole and only work was to communicate to God on behalf of worshippers because woshippers were not allowed to do so directly because of the veil in the temple. People could not directly communicate with God then. Nowadays we don't have Levites. There is no need for them.Jesus died and resurrected. The veil has been torn. We can access God directly through Jesus Christ, personally.

Secondly, to make it clear again, this tithe was never a rigid 10 percent as is currently preached. Worshippers were supposed to donate to the temple i.e levites, I believe for 2 years, 10 percent of all their produce. On the third year, they were supposed to take the 10 percent and use it for a vacation of some sorts for themselves and their families. Vacation in the bibles words and times were to go somewhere with their family and enjoy themselves with strong drink. (If you think I'm lying, what I'm saying is right there in the bible). In any case, as I have said this practice was before the early church.

Now to the early Church, what they practised was not tithing but communal/sacrificial giving. And it's clearly documented all over the new testament in the early church. What would happen is that people would sell their properties, bring their income to the church etc and it would be shared especially to the poor, widows and most vulnerable church members. It wasn't by compulsion but it was optional. Part of it was used to take care of the disciples e.g Paul but he personally recommended against it and worked so he wouldn't uneccesarily burden the church.

Now to today, you can see what is been practiced is not communal/sacrificial giving. What is being practiced is a corrupt extractive system that caters mostly for the Daddy G.O and his family where the poor, widows and vulnerable are left stranded and not catered for. It is just similar to the corrupt political system we run in Nigeria where govt funds from taxes and the commonwealth of the country are siphoned into private pockets while the citizens and tax payers get no infrastructure, no good roads, no good healthcare, no security and no light. That is why often you see pastors and politicians in bed with each other because they are agents of the same destruction and crime.

At the end of the day, as we have Coronavirus we can see that the church is not functional, because if it was, even in this trying era and just as the disciples faced persecution in the early church, all church members should still be catered for and none should go hungry. The church should have been a shining beacon to other religion and even provide help to them if it was not extractive. I see no better way to evangalize than helping say a muslim or hindu in their time of need to meet basic necessities in this trying times. The church should have had a supply chain in place of reaching the poor and vulnerable in the COVID era if that had been their major focus all along. The govt should actually be reaching out to the church to use the church's mastery of the supply chain helping vulnerable people to distribute it's palliatives to Nigeria at large. The Nigerian church would have been an essential service.

Finally, what I will advice David Oyedepo to do rather than clamouring for the opening of his "non-essential" church is to take one of his multiple private jets (that we said were not needed then but people said who are we to question their G.O), and get Nigeria an airload of testkits, masks and other PPEs from China. So we can get out of this mess quickly.

Stick to the issue, this isnt about tithes

asamaigho:


guy u call those 2k sticker per annum taxes? r u for real! dont tell me u dont know they are for settlement for d loyal boys!. we know d country we leave in,..d lga are wheel chairs..its whatever d state give dem dats what dey utilize, so stop carving baseless excuses cos there is no reason on Gods planet y an overcrowded market is open 7days of d week, while a more organised place as d church which meets only 2 or 3day of d week for less dan 3hrs is shot.

if u have any probs with some pastors like i do say it. we can attack it from dat point.
peace.

How much do they make?
On your other point it's not about the organization.
Its about services rendered and possible alternatives.

Toshy001:
i didn't expect any positive comment or contribution from u duh,ya nickname says it all..Mumu Nigerian:

As a matter of fact, i could be wiser than you.
Pls focus on the topic

Toshy001:
u call.church yeye..no p
one day u will.need that help from that yeye church and u won't see it...u come publicly on social media displaying how useless u are and u feel u hv made a sensible comment becos of likes u got...I pity u becos what awaits u is doom for feeling church is not important

Lol, no doom is awaiting him anywhere, you can communicate your reservations as a Christian that you are claimig to be

Chosen1984:


Be Sincere! When last did u do that!

I don't think you Spend time with GOD Like I do..

I am not sure you pray to GOD like I do..

But in all, it hurts me that The House of GOD is not given it's place in our Nations Affairs!

I might be able to cope due to my personal relationship with GOD But what of others!

Multitude of People are Living Hopelessly and Helplessly! Many living the Earth without JESUS CHRIST!
If these things don't Hurt you, they Hurt Me..

Lol, you feel you and holier than myself, Bro you don't know me.
Focus on yourself, while it is good for as many people to make heaven. It is a personal thing.
If you arw this strong, helo those who are stryggling in their relationship with God around you. You are already evangelizing that way already

Temysteve:
such a mumu9gerian indeed�

Focus on the issue on ground

Chosen1984:

My Brother, I never said going to Church gives u Heaven, NO!

The Word of GOD gives me Joy! The House of GOD is where I derive peace From!

In these times, I rather go to Church and seat down on my own than be in my house!

What happened to listening to those words you have in your archives.
All the messages you have heard up till now, are you doing all that is required of you.
What happened to reviewing all your sermon notes and evaluating yourself.
Must you be in church to do all these?

CelestineNelson:
am sorry for you if that man is truly a man of God...

Lol, what will happen to him

PHijo:


It is!
I would have stated how but I won't. I wouldn't want Buhari to share money for his people to the detriment of the rest of Nigeria. I would have stated where the money will come from, where it will go and how the government can use it to position themselves for a windfall.

I hear you rven though i don't agree

asamaigho:


markets pay tax....am just hearing dat oo, abi na ticket and store be d tax?
u r obviously trying to be clever by half.

They pay taxes in markets Oga.
They pay to local governments

Chosen1984:


Where your Treasure is, there will your Hear be..

If your Treasure is your Stomach... then enjoy yourself....

My Treasure is my Eternal Life , so whatever will help me to make Eternal Life is my Promary Focus

Agreed but going to church isn't what makes you to make eternal life.
I hope you know that

PHijo:


1. We don't have 100 million BVN in Nigeria
2. If we use an exchange rate of 400 naira per USD, giving 100 million people 250usd will amount to 25 billion usd . That amount can be raised by the state. Nonetheless, that is not the figure I am suggesting.
3. The figure I am suggesting should be close to 40 percent of 25 billion usd
4. Nigeria has about 40 million bvn. Meaning that 10 billion usd will be the most we would require for the scheme.
5. In terms of GDP, 25 billion USD is less than 7 percent of Nigeria's GDP.

What you are saying is nrralistic Oga

operotimi:

your father is foolish

So tell me the difference between you and him, Oyedepo defender

Xda59:



You mean God won't acknowledge your gratitude if you spent that one tenth of your salary feeding the hungry and homeless or helping the poor people who are sick but don't have money to pay for their medications?

Thats your own belief, whay he believs in is working for him.
Please leave him

Chosen1984:

So when u to Church, it's Man you go to Seek?
I really don't understand the Sort of Christianity we profess Today!
Sir, Ur Summation is totally uncalled for

Your own sort of Christianity is also strange

joepepsy:
You are not wise, you just gullible. If you want to appreciate God help suffering people around your vicinity.

He believes in paying tithe. It is not your place to tell him how to appreciate God.

Filmewell:

What does either mean in this sentence?

I think he meant tither,

Chosen1984:


How many people today spend time with GOD in their Closest?

How many people today open their bibles in their closest to read or even pray?

You will be shocked to see the number of Bible's that will be in dust today!

The Church is the body of Christ! It's not just the building! It represents a place where people go to Meet GOD.

So if a Government can open up the Markets and still shut down the places that Represents GOD , it's tells you where their affection is!

It's is Great Foolishness!

Let's see the Solutions!

You don't Isolate GOD and Expect to have Solution

All you have said here is rubbish
Unfortunately your opinion is foolish, the church does not represent a place where people meet God.
Where 2 or 3 are gathered is a Church.
Anyone who only opens his or her bible when they go to church is not a growing Christian.
This is a time to reflect and improve on your personal relationship with God
This is a time to be more disciplined and have a personal encounter with God.

EmmyKrim:
he is saying the fact. Most people here are just unwise when it comes to spiritual things. Mind the way you abuse men of God, if you persist it will be to your own detriment.

Ode ni e, why must you carry guns on behalf of pastors.
There is no difference between you people and political thugs

PHijo:


There are alternatives to markets, any public gathering can cause the spread. What the government should have done is home supply of the basics or 100k per bvn cash payment prior to a complete lockdown.

Not realistic

Temysteve:
You called a whole man of God foolish!!!! even if you don't knw him or you aren't from his church, or u aren't a Christian, such words are not suppose to come of your mouth. you've already cursed yourself, u don't need anybody to placed a curse on your. I'm not talking about not having money or being a broke a$$ nigga wondering the street looking tattered, but with such word to a man of God, you've already shattered your life, is better you go and beg God for forgiveness. You'll just be blabbing upandan with ur stupId mouth as if you can tell the man facially. I see you lack moral etiquette, so Barbaric and a retard€d old fool... Don't worry the society will teach you the right thing, sho lo stupid ni...

Oyedepo can defend himself. Which curse did he place on himself, pls just shut up abeg. Are you yourself a Christain. Tame your tongue Oga

Temysteve:
what a shallow thinking, you only know what you know

If his thinking is shallow in your opinion, your own thinking is worse

Nobody is even talking about the 480 million dollars already forfeited to the US gove3