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Re: Pastor Oyemade Disagrees With Oyedepo, Oyakhilome On The Closure Of Churches by MERCHANDISER: 10:59pm On May 09, 2020 |
honeyB2018:i would have called u an idiot 1 Like |
Re: Pastor Oyemade Disagrees With Oyedepo, Oyakhilome On The Closure Of Churches by Annistars: 11:04pm On May 09, 2020 |
O God we need more of ur wisdom |
Re: Pastor Oyemade Disagrees With Oyedepo, Oyakhilome On The Closure Of Churches by Lordbukas: 11:06pm On May 09, 2020 |
You can never win any awards by opposing your fellow pastor openly. Only few ignorant people will clap for you. You even loose your credibility when you seek public approval over being objective om salient issues. 1 Like |
Re: Pastor Oyemade Disagrees With Oyedepo, Oyakhilome On The Closure Of Churches by aalangel(f): 11:51pm On May 09, 2020 |
Digitalstarlite: Wow, wow, wow!!! |
Re: Pastor Oyemade Disagrees With Oyedepo, Oyakhilome On The Closure Of Churches by pstjoga: 2:52am On May 10, 2020 |
I agree with you totally. Itya disgrace to see men of God finding it so easy to counter themselves for cheap popularity. Even if you have a contrary opinion, the fact that the first person has spoken either right or wrong, its better you keep your opinion for peace to reign. When will Christian value the sanctity of the priesthood. Let's leave God to judge His own servants 12345DKO: 1 Like |
Re: Pastor Oyemade Disagrees With Oyedepo, Oyakhilome On The Closure Of Churches by honeyB2018: 3:08am On May 10, 2020 |
MERCHANDISER: MERCHANDSER Out of the abundance of the heart, the mouth speaks. Matthew 12:34 You have already said what you want to say. But I tell you the truth, what so ever a man soweth,that shall he also reap. That which you have sown, reap in Jesus Christ name. Amen |
Re: Pastor Oyemade Disagrees With Oyedepo, Oyakhilome On The Closure Of Churches by roladex(f): 3:12am On May 10, 2020 |
usibengate:correct one sef |
Re: Pastor Oyemade Disagrees With Oyedepo, Oyakhilome On The Closure Of Churches by honeyB2018: 3:12am On May 10, 2020 |
ovicky: OVICKY You have spoken well, according to your level and knowledge. But have you ever read in the bible of men of "little faith; Matthew 6:30, 8:26, 14:31. Weak faith Rom. 14:1" Then, you will understand what you spewing. 1Thess.5:14, also said we should support the weak and feebleminded. You will see that your assertion has no foundation scripturally. |
Re: Pastor Oyemade Disagrees With Oyedepo, Oyakhilome On The Closure Of Churches by honeyB2018: 3:49am On May 10, 2020 |
oneunited: Oneunite You are out of the issue. Neither Bishop Oyedepo, nor Chris. Oyakhilome, asked Christians to disobey the government or authorities that be. The reasoning is that, if the markets are opened and people are allowed to mingle uncontrollably for 6hrs, even in this Covid19 period, the church should be opened for fellowship and worship for at least 2hrs. This is the point. As for wether prayers said in public or private to God will be answered or not, I think that God made no mistake about the need of a place to worship him, when he asked the Israelites after their departure from Egypt to build him a sanctuary, so that he can dwell in their midst. Ex.25 :8. If there is no need for physical place of worship called church, God will not have said in Heb. 10:25, that we should not forget that assembling of ourselves together as the manner of some people is. So, there is the need to get our worship centers opened. Spiritual things are equally essential as the material things. 1 Like |
Re: Pastor Oyemade Disagrees With Oyedepo, Oyakhilome On The Closure Of Churches by honeyB2018: 4:07am On May 10, 2020 |
Yanglee: Lots of people, including you, got the whole point wrong. They heard about Bishop Oyedepo and Pastor Chris Oyakilome, two servants of God, they hate to hear from. I'm not a member of any of their churches. If you reason the way you did, then is there any need to get the markets opened? Have you been to any of the markets lately? Where are people likely to contact the virus the more? In the church or the uncontrollable market and open places? Churches are not opened, almost all public places are, we have now spikes and you think it is only when the churches are opened that people will be infected? This is a lie from the pit of hell. On streaming your services online, you and know, that this cannot be compared to the real thing. If it's not pandol, it can't and will never be like pandol. |
Re: Pastor Oyemade Disagrees With Oyedepo, Oyakhilome On The Closure Of Churches by chijokz(m): 4:43am On May 10, 2020 |
litigator:Well said..I applaud your logical reasoning factual assertions devoid of sentiment and bias. 1 Like |
Re: Pastor Oyemade Disagrees With Oyedepo, Oyakhilome On The Closure Of Churches by Winzozo: 6:03am On May 10, 2020 |
How many church buildings did Apostles Peter and Paul build? Atleast, they wrote over 75% of the new testament. The church in Ephisus, was it a physical building during the days of the great persecution? Also, juxtapose your assertion with the Biblical elucidations that " the kingdom of God is within thee". Luke 17:20-21, particularly at verse 21. Also, the old church shared everything in common and non lacked. Even those who had benefited from the good will of others but wanted to be greedy with theirs, met fatal punishment. How well has our modern church copied such precedent? Acts 4: 30-End; Acts 5. During this period of Covid-19, how well is the church resources being shared amongst members of the church and by extension, members of the public as a tool of evangelism? Jesus fed the congregation because He knew the importance of food to the body(biological feeding), and salvation to the soul( spiritual feeding). How well has our church emulated this biblical precedent during COVID-19. Is this not the best time to win souls to the kingdom via the apt deployment of both mechanism? Jesus and Apostle Peter were both leaders of the Church, both yet they knew they were trustees of the church, thus, gave good account of stewardship and didn't owe much personal property. Acts 4:32-End Even Jesus lead by example by borrowing the a colt He used for triumphant entry. He could afford to buy one of the very best, and his actions will be justified because it is for the propagation of the gospel , but instead borrowed one. Mark 11:3. ***Take notice that this is a lame excuse being used by our religious leaders in an attempt to justify the luxurious lifestyle and the acquisition of aircrafts and phantom automobiles. But that is a discourse for another day. From Apostle Peter's encounter with the man at the beautiful gate, it is apt to conclude that He didn't control the church resources even as a leader and pastor of the first church. He thus gave freely that which he had which was his anointing and heal the man of his infirmity. Can same be said for modern-day pastors and spiritual leaders? What changed? Finally, lockdown has been lifted in some parts of the western world such as Italy where the church began, but the physical place of congregation is still under lockdown. Most of these pastors have church branches within such domicile, why are they not condemning the govt of such state as they do Nigeria? Kindly educate my ignorance. I await your timely response, God bless. I am an Omnist and Bible student. I know there are 4200+ religion in our modern-day world, and that God is not a Christian, but He is" I am that I am". Reference: God is not a Christian by Archbishop Desmond Tutu. I offer my highest regards. I have questions for my Muslim brothers too, but we will address that another day. Shalom. RESPONSE FOR YOU Is a pity how you man who those not have the Holyspirit could think he can understand scriptures everything you have written is are perversion... I will only have time to address the one you wrote about The LORD JESUS.. May God have mercy on your ignorance You said JESUS borrowed a coat... Are you sure you have the Holy spirit or you know the Holyspirit at all.. Matt 21vs2_3 living bible 2 “Just as you enter,” he said, “you will see a donkey tied there, with its colt beside it. Untie them and bring them here. 3 If anyone asks you what you are doing, just say, ‘The Master needs them,’ and there will be no trouble.” Does this look like borrow, in a case were u borrow you go to the owner first to negotiate Vs 3 says if anyone say what are you doing their tell him( KJV use) the LORD needs them... You don't know Jesus because JESUS knew who he was.. Jesus is whom it was said of in psalm 24vs 1... The earth is the LORD and the fullness thereof the world and all that dwell therein. the one that owns everything don't borrow everything He need He get I can tell you about the apostle how they were very rich ... (In Zec 1v17 Cry yet, saying, Thus saith the LORD of hosts; My cities through prosperity shall yet be spread abroad... T Brother if you don't knw Christ or you are jealous about someone serving God wealth don't use scriptures you don't understand to castigate him Ain't you afraid are you playing with God mercy 1 Like |
Re: Pastor Oyemade Disagrees With Oyedepo, Oyakhilome On The Closure Of Churches by MERCHANDISER: 6:12am On May 10, 2020 |
Komu1048:mugu |
Re: Pastor Oyemade Disagrees With Oyedepo, Oyakhilome On The Closure Of Churches by Winzozo: 6:14am On May 10, 2020 |
litigator: RESPONSE FOR YOU Is a pity how you man who those not have the Holyspirit could think he can understand scriptures everything you have written is are perversion... I will only have time to address the one you wrote about The LORD JESUS.. May God have mercy on your ignorance You said JESUS borrowed a coat... Are you sure you have the Holy spirit or you know the Holyspirit at all.. Matt 21vs2_3 living bible 2 “Just as you enter,” he said, “you will see a donkey tied there, with its colt beside it. Untie them and bring them here. 3 If anyone asks you what you are doing, just say, ‘The Master needs them,’ and there will be no trouble.” Does this look like borrow, in a case were u borrow you go to the owner first to negotiate Vs 3 says if anyone say what are you doing their tell him( KJV use) the LORD needs them... You don't know Jesus because JESUS knew who he was.. Jesus is whom it was said of in psalm 24vs 1... The earth is the LORD and the fullness thereof the world and all that dwell therein. the one that owns everything don't borrow everything He need He get I can tell you about the apostle how they were very rich ... (In Zec 1v17 Cry yet, saying, Thus saith the LORD of hosts; My cities through prosperity shall yet be spread abroad... This was y in 3 John 2-5 (KJV) 2 Beloved, I wish (above all things) that thou mayest prosper and be in health, even as thy soul prospereth I have only responded because of the little ones Brother if you don't knw Christ or you are jealous of someone who through faith has obtain the promise ask them to teach you don't use scriptures you don't understand to castigate him Ain't you afraid are you playing with God mercy |
Re: Pastor Oyemade Disagrees With Oyedepo, Oyakhilome On The Closure Of Churches by MERCHANDISER: 6:15am On May 10, 2020 |
KingJa:i wish i can write this your post 100times.I couldn't agree less with u 1 Like |
Re: Pastor Oyemade Disagrees With Oyedepo, Oyakhilome On The Closure Of Churches by MERCHANDISER: 6:19am On May 10, 2020 |
Olarewaju89:Religion has lead to under-development of Africans.There is no church in Japan,China,India,Hong Kong and they are developing very fast 1 Like |
Re: Pastor Oyemade Disagrees With Oyedepo, Oyakhilome On The Closure Of Churches by Nobody: 6:47am On May 10, 2020 |
Winzozo: Consider the account in Mark 11:3. 11:1 As they approached Jerusalem and came to Bethphage and Bethany at the Mount of Olives, Jesus sent two of his disciples, 11:2 saying to them, "Go to the village ahead of you, and just as you enter it, you will find a colt tied there, which no one has ever ridden. Untie it and bring it here. 11:3 If anyone asks you, 'Why are you doing this?' tell him, 'The Lord needs it and will send it back here shortly .... 11:11 Jesus entered Jerusalem and went to the temple. He looked around at everything, but since it was already late, he went out to Bethany with the Twelve. _--------------------------- Kindly explain your understanding of the last paragraph in Mark 11:3 in juxtaposition with 11:11 as to why he went back to the city the colt was taking from, when it was getting late. I did not write the Bible. I am not a Bible scholar, nor do I ascribe any title to my self. I am a student of knowledge. He yet plagued my heart with His words in Daniel 9:2 and reveals what he deems fit unto I. I want none of these to be honest. But this is my cross and I shall bear it. I am a bloody sinner and a lawyer. A lawyer can never make a good Bible scholar. So I will never be a shepherd of a congregation, nor will I mislead the sheep I have no control over. I don't know why He plagues me with Daniel 9:2. Can you help? Recently as He yet again plagued my little mind with the parable of the talents, more particularly as it concerns the single talent. I am yet to research it. I will be grateful if you can help in this regard. To what purpose, I know not. But I am an just a seeker of knowledge and will be grateful to learn under your superior knowledge, if any, as did Paul(Saul) under Gamelia. To what purpose shall it serve I to claim intelligence or wisdom whenst same is nothing but an illusion. A mere perception of others. Kindly educate my ignorance in accordance with the provisions of Daniel 9:2, as tot he relevance of the single talent that was buried and the consequences thereof. N:B. I discovered the account in Matthew and Luke are quite different from that in Mark, so I took a little voyage into theological jurisprudence. Perhaps that framed my opinion as the ever burning flames of Gehenna as showed what Hades could hold. I pray thee that I shall speak no further of this, if you offer a compelling elucidation, lest I grieve the Holy Spirit in all my foolishness and plague of the mind's eye which some doest consider wisdom, though I see no wisdom in it. Apologies if I doest discommodate thee. None was intended. I offer my salutations upon thee and thy estate. |
Re: Pastor Oyemade Disagrees With Oyedepo, Oyakhilome On The Closure Of Churches by Nobody: 7:13am On May 10, 2020 |
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Re: Pastor Oyemade Disagrees With Oyedepo, Oyakhilome On The Closure Of Churches by Wakinson: 7:42am On May 10, 2020 |
This man of God is on point �. Just like pastor Sam |
Re: Pastor Oyemade Disagrees With Oyedepo, Oyakhilome On The Closure Of Churches by adebayo987: 7:49am On May 10, 2020 |
Na so Christian community dey... Full of cat and dogs. But you can never hear Islam priests, ogboni, budist, hindu, baphomet, etc priests disagreeing with each other! |
Re: Pastor Oyemade Disagrees With Oyedepo, Oyakhilome On The Closure Of Churches by johnad3(m): 8:28am On May 10, 2020 |
all these pastors their own tire me sef, seh no bi Bible talk say obey the law of the land ni haha. if they are talking about healing they should all go to the isolation centres to heal covid19 patients |
Re: Pastor Oyemade Disagrees With Oyedepo, Oyakhilome On The Closure Of Churches by ovicky(m): 8:39am On May 10, 2020 |
honeyB2018: Have you read the Parable of the lost sheep atall..Even if one out of 100 is lost, God will leave the other 99 and look for it. I don't have any level. Am just a baby in Christ but I still can't be deceived when I see point blank heresy |
Re: Pastor Oyemade Disagrees With Oyedepo, Oyakhilome On The Closure Of Churches by OyinO: 8:50am On May 10, 2020 |
The only Pastor who has made me see something positive in original Christianity. Bad business for fellowsheeps! |
Re: Pastor Oyemade Disagrees With Oyedepo, Oyakhilome On The Closure Of Churches by Bootinfos(m): 8:51am On May 10, 2020 |
Re: Pastor Oyemade Disagrees With Oyedepo, Oyakhilome On The Closure Of Churches by cbngov01(m): 8:59am On May 10, 2020 |
litigator: There is a difference between a missionary and a pastor! Paul was a missionary and in all the books you will see that there were resident leaders in the church. Do not mix things up sir! |
Re: Pastor Oyemade Disagrees With Oyedepo, Oyakhilome On The Closure Of Churches by orunto27: 9:08am On May 10, 2020 |
No. Oyemade is just mocking FG and supporting Oyedepo and Oyakhilome. |
Re: Pastor Oyemade Disagrees With Oyedepo, Oyakhilome On The Closure Of Churches by Yanglee(m): 10:19am On May 10, 2020 |
honeyB2018: How can you compare opening of markets on select days to enable people restock and opening of the church building to allow people congregate. What is the difference between streaming church service online and being in the church building physically? You don’t have a problem understanding of what Christianity is all about. If you can’t explain to me why Live streaming of service can’t be compared to being physically In the church building, it only means you go to church to show off your new clothes, new shoes etc. Isaiah 26:20-21 says : 20 Go, my people, enter your rooms and shut the doors behind you; hide yourselves for a little while until his wrath has passed by. 21 See, the Lord is coming out of his dwelling to punish the people of the earth for their sins. The earth will disclose the blood shed on it; the earth will conceal its slain no longer. Chapter 26 speaks of God’s judgment past, present, and future and how He keeps His people safe, hidden in Himself as their refuge. No one would have stopped you from worshiping and praying within your church building if there was no pandemic. Study your bible more and have a proper understanding of Christianity and let us pray that God for an end to this virus. Mathew 6:6 says But thou, when thou prayest, enter into thy. closet, and when thou hast shut thy door, pray. to thy Father which is in secret; and thy Father. which seeth in secret shall reward thee openly. The building is not the church, the people are the church. Lastly church buildings are closed, but millions of churches are opened up in the homes of real and genuine Christians. |
Re: Pastor Oyemade Disagrees With Oyedepo, Oyakhilome On The Closure Of Churches by mumu9gerian: 1:56pm On May 10, 2020 |
MERCHANDISER:What did the country gain when those said churches were open. Whether they open church or close church, your concern should be how well you are growing and it is the personal work that you do in secret that shows forth. Not all who go to church hear the word and act upon them. Jesus even confirmed that. This country is filled with a bunch of very religious but unspiritual people. The same people that will go to the church are the ones that cant even maintain physical distancing at ATMs, and disobey even the smallest instruction. Make una continue |
Re: Pastor Oyemade Disagrees With Oyedepo, Oyakhilome On The Closure Of Churches by freddaboh(m): 2:55pm On May 10, 2020 |
litigator:May God bless you, your response is apt and to the point. |
Re: Pastor Oyemade Disagrees With Oyedepo, Oyakhilome On The Closure Of Churches by honeyB2018: 12:12pm On May 11, 2020 |
Yanglee: Yanglee, I lost interest in reasoning with you, when, you see no difference between real life worship in the church and streaming service online. No need going any further in this issue. Thanks and good bye |
Re: Pastor Oyemade Disagrees With Oyedepo, Oyakhilome On The Closure Of Churches by sparta191(m): 1:13pm On May 11, 2020 |
Dilluted: second Jesus. |
Re: Pastor Oyemade Disagrees With Oyedepo, Oyakhilome On The Closure Of Churches by Komu1048(m): 3:31pm On May 11, 2020 |
subcbouy: There's another motive to the continuous closure of the church. Northerners are trooping to the South en mass. Are they not suppose to be at home. There are political undertone to church closure. Of all the places open non of those places is safer than churches |
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