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Afonja copying abookii in mumuism

Abokii shine our shoes

The gratest rigger is BuhariG. If your boys scout are really tough they would have sacked him and conducted a credible election

basilo101:
They are depending on buhari to hand pick them and place them inside asi rock with military might. Delusion. How can they even contemplate yoruba presidency that solely depend on the north with zero support from another southern zone? Will pdp not knock them out with a northern candidate?

Awolowo supported all ilegalities during the war, how did he end? Did he smell the presidency??

MxreR:
Willie built and engraved his name while the useless incomppetent Ugwuanyi never built anything for 4yrs except the road he built at timid nsukka, while Obiano has completed more than 7 bridges, flyovers and several other roads across the urban and rural areas of the state.

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this class of road doesn't exist in anambra

OP is a prophet

APCsupporter:
Most prostitutes in Northern Nigeria are from the south east.

The bandits in Kaduna south are Christians. Even El'rufa'i mentioned that but i never said the killings in Zamfara or Boko haram people are Christian

Prostitution is not a crime. Its better than suicide bombing

nonsobaba:
Not at all. If RCC, Nigercat, Setraco etc can engrave their names into their finished construction projects, I don't see why "Willie is working" can't.

See mumu comparison. Is williie a company? Give us examples of other governors names engraved

Niccoloimhotep:
where did you get this statistics from? Onitsha was second on your list but when i looked it up myself, it was way down below. All these sites can be confusing at times

Urban area is different from city. Onitsha urban area is large but onitsha city is very small. My suggestion is that the whole urban area should form a single city

MxreR:
Onitsha is not a different case because it is still a city in Nigeria just like other cities. Cities all over the world expand and swallow other smaller cities. It happened in Lagos, PH, Onitsha and Warri.

Today there is a contrast between Onitsha north and South, and Onitsha metropolitan areas. Onitsha metro covers all the areas from Onitsha north and south, Obosi, Ogbaru, Nkpor, Ogidi, Oba, Nkwelle, Ogbunike etc.

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Those places don't reflect on official data for onitsha city. Onitsha case should be looked into instead of denying the obvious

Yyeske:
Good and constructive arguement here but there are some things you guys fail to understand about the nomenclature of the Onitsha metro area, I live at Odume layout and we all generally refer to the place as Onitsha, same for someone living in Awada, Ugwuagba all parts of Obosi, residents will tell you they live in Onitsha but same cannot be said of Obosi town itself because it has not been incoporated fully into Onitsha.
Residents of Afor Nkpor, areas around Mgbuka, Nkpor main market etc all refer to those places as Onitsha but same cannot be said of Eke Nkpor because it has not yet been swallowed up yet.
Ugwunwasike in Ogidi down to Nkpor is equally refferd to as Onitsha but not all parts of Ogidi for same reason.
Abata Nsugbe has been swallowed up people refer to the place as Onitsha but same is not yet applicable to other parts of Nsugbe.
If you all can recall, when the state government banned Okada last year it only covered the metro area itself but left the areas not yet incoporated and thats why okada still functions in places like Eke Nkpor but not in Afor Nkpor.

These things are true but we want to now now reflect on official data of onitsha city. This is the recognised onitsha city map compared to enugu. Its not about what people feel, it should be made official

Ttipsy:
well explained. Don't know why pple r daft to understand this. Onitsha has grown beyond Onitsha north and south.
Lagos, Benin city, Ibadan,Onitsha all has sprawled beyond its land Pace, forming a metropolitan still bearing its Original name of the city respectively.

Onitsha case is different. Benin, ibadan, enugu, PH can sprawl almost indefinitely and the data will still go to the city. But onitsha has officially stop growing stopingat 52 square kilometres and 500k population because neighboring towns refuse to adopt onitsha nomenclature. Just go out and snap a sign with ogidi onitsha and you have won the argument

MxreR:
The highlighted is the summary of all we have been saying here. Case closed

This shows that you have been engaging in blind argument since you don't understand the issue under discussion. Its not about people's feelings but official gazettes

pazienza:
Believe me, I understand you. You are are the one that has refused to understand me.

I am very much aware that Greater Onitsha exists in Anambra city development and planning commission books. I'm aware it exists in people, especially "ndi mbia mbia" subconsciousness, but it doesn't exist in the reality for Idemili people.
For example, if you ask many non Indigenes resident in Nkpor or Obosi where they reside, they will first of all tell you Onitsha, then when you ask them the part of Onitsha, they will say Obosi or Nkpor, as the case maybe.
But an Obosi or Nkpor person will never give you such reply. To him, it's Nkpor in Idemili North LGA, and not Nkpor in Onitsha.
The idea of Nkpor in Onitsha, is one non Idemili people living in Nkpor, Umuoji , Oba, Obosi or Ogidi propagate. The indigenes will not tolerate such idea.

I have retalitves living in ogidi and everybody know them as people who live in onitsha. But I have a classmate from ogidi and he never accepted being onitsha man

pazienza:
Yes, Warri is a new nomenclature. Itsekiriis claim it was derived from the ancient name of Itsekiri, ie Iwere, Ijaws claim it was derived from the Ijaw word "Wari" which means home/house.

Urhobos has their own version of the name origin.

Bottomline is that it doesn't belong to anyone. It's a generic name the three ethnic groups there lay claim to. We can't say same of Onitsha. Onitsha belongs to Onitsha people only.

I didn't say that anyone is changing the name of Ogidi to Onitsha. But you have to realize that for Ogidi to become one city with Onitsha, names of places in Ogidi will have to bear Onitsha. And this will never happen, because neither Ogidi, Obosi or Nkpor people will permit it.

Greater Onitsha will no doubt exist in city planners book, in people's subconsciousness and all. But it will not exist in real life setting, because you will never be allowed to write Onitsha, whether greater or lesser, in any signpost in Idemili.

That's the reality I am trying to bring to your notice.

It doesn't mean I support or oppose the greater Onitsha thing, I'm merely bringing home to you, the situation on ground.

Wise man. These people are just more emotional than logical

MxreR:
Pazienza look at the population and land area of Onitsha metropolitan area. This couldn't have been just Onitsha North and South, it is because the authorities have come to understand that Onitsha metropolis has swallowed up the entire area surrounding the Onitsha city as it were, and now forming conurbation(mega city). It has absolutely nothing to do with superiority or otherwise of the Onitsha people but a question of reality on ground.

You don't understand the point. Lagos will still record same data for both city ranking and urban area ranking but onitsha will top in urban area ranking but carry last in city ranking. A unified single city name is needed

nnamdijonathan:
All the areas called Onitsha today are called Onitsha because of the popularity of the community not because of superiority.
Onitsha community has a landmass of slightly over 50sqkm with an urban spread or metropolitan area of 1,965sqkm.

The urban area should adop a single name and become one city. If you do city ranking onitsha will be at the bottom

MxreR:
My friend you are over rated i thought you knew something before now.

So Warri is a new nomenclature? Nwokem gbafuo from here or use your Google to educate yourself.

So do you think FG is interested in what Omagwa people wanted before naming the airport Port Harcourt international airport? That was the same thing that happened in the case of Onitsha Port and Onitsha Naval Base that are all in Ogbaru land.

Your problem is that you are yet to understand the argument. No one is changing Ogidi name to Onitsha. What happened was that Onitsha as a nomenclature dominated because of its popularity and historical inclination. It was the same thing that happened in PH and Warri- bigger cities swallowed smaller ones to form conurbation. That's what you see in PH, Onitsha and Warri.

The same will soon happen at Nnewi because the permanent site for Nnamdi Azikiwe university teaching hospital is between Oraifite and Ozubulu, but what the FG knows is that it is at Nnewi because over the coming years Nnewi as a nomenclature will swallow other smaller and unpopular towns around it and thereby forming Nnewi metropolis. It will still not change the name of Oraifite or Ozubulu but what will happen is that Nnewi as a metro nomenclature will be more popular to people that anyone that arrives Oraifite or Ozubulu will immediately assume to be at Nnewi.

This is what happened in the case of Onitsha metropolitan area. It took decades and eventually Obosi, Nkpor, Ogbaru, Ogidi, Nkwelle etc, came under Onitsha metropolis as nomenclature, though it is not written on any agreement paper but consciousness of anyone that arrives in Ogidi or Obosi or Ogbaru is that he/she is in Onitsha metropolitan area

You only cite FG establishments on empty lands at the boarder. How about official address for resdents? Can we have No 22 chinedu street ozubulu Nnewi?

pazienza:
Rebisi is the part of Ikwerre in PHLGA.
I know enough about the history of PH.

Of course, Omagwa people will readily accept the PH name for the airport, because PH is a neutral name. That's exactly my point. Imagine if PH is named Rebisi or any other local name, do you think the Omagwa people would have accepted the airport in their town being named after another indigenious nearby town?

Warri is same. There is not town named Warri. It's a new name introduced by the colonial masters, which Itsekiri,Ijaws and even Okumagba (Urhobo) people are claiming to have meaning in their tongues. It's a unifying factor for the three ethnic groups, it belongs to no one particular town .

Onitsha people have claimed part of Awada today, only some part are still within Obosi control.
Good luck convincing Obosi people to accept anything that would tag their remaining part of Awada as anything but Obosi.

If you have access to powers that be. Better tell them to look for a neutral official name for the emerging city, because, this greater Onitsha thing, Odikwa very risky o!

Will they listen? Onitsha area should merge under one umbrella. Enough of small independent towns

MxreR:
hehehehehe..look at the official documentation from the authorities who knows better than us. Onitsha metropolitan area is the largest. Kill ya self

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Wikipedia? Lol. Official onitsha population is 500k

MxreR:
You seems to muddling up everything. Nobody is changing the name of Ogidi or Obosi. What happened was that Onitsha development over ran those smaller towns. So over time anyone that found himself in the building material at Ogidi will naturally feel he is in Onitsha.

No one is changing any name because by subconscious reasoning people are naturally keying into it as development reaches there are.

30yrs ago Awada was forest farm land for Idemili people but today it is part of Onitsha metropolitan area because of nearness to Onitsha and advancement of development from Onitsha.

It is something people unconsciously do without even knowing it

You know absolutely nothing about PH. The actual PH is just Port Harcourt local govt but today Obioakpor is now part and parcel of PH because of the influence and expansion of PH. Anyone in Obioakpor is in PH. Obioakpor nomenclature is remembered during elections only. Lol

Port Harcourt international airport is in Ikwerre LGA but it is called PH INTERNATIONAL AIRPORT. Why not OMGWA INTERNATIONAL AIRPORT. It is because of popularity of PH among all the town around.

In Delta state, Warri is more popular than Effurun, but it is in Effurun that all the banks are located. Even airport in Warri is located in Effurun but because of it was Warri that made that region popular because it has existed and had ancient developments which marks its history ahead of Effurun. You hardly hear of Effurun, does it mean that there are no indigenes of Effurun? NO. So Warri has become the metro name that covers Effurun, Udu, Owveh etc. No one remembers those smaller towns even when you are there.

That was what happened in the case of Onitsha metro and other surrounding towns.

Those places are niw officially recognized as part of warri city or PH city but ogidi is not officially recognised as part of onitsha city. That is the point. It's not about what is unconsciously felt but official gazettes

pazienza:
I agree completely with you that Ogidi is now part of Onitsha metropolis.

But I'm also agreeing with MXrep, that Idemili people will never accept the "Onitsha" name, as a unifying factor for all the other towns. This is why you can't erect sign post in Obosi and write Onitsha below it. The Youths will come for your head.

For peace and development, a new name should be adopted that will be accepted to all. Let's say we adopt "Ofuobi" as the name of the new city.

So that instead of saying Fegge, Onitsha. It will now be, Fegge - Ofuobi, Amafor-Ofuobi( instead of Amafor Nkpor), Iyienu-Ofuobi, etc.

This is how it should be.

Onitsha people should not expect Ndi Idemili to throw away our individual towns, if Onitsha are not going to lose theirs as well.

Why greater Onitsha? Why not Greater Obosi

Imagine naming Enugu city, Greater Ngwo? Do you think Amechi, Nike, Ugwuaji, Akwuke people will ever agree to such?

Or naming PH city, Greater Rebisi ? Will Okirika and other Ikwerre clans accept such?

Why do you lots expect Onitsha case to be different.

Incase you don't know, even Okpanam people are resisting naming their town Asaba. They insist it is Okpanam and not under Asaba

Yes, we are clannish people. Let's not deceive ourselves and cause needless problems.

The city planners should look for and adopt a new name.
Ofuobi city, Anambra city, etc.

That's my One kobo

Hehehehe
These kids won't take this good advice now.

BrownRoofRep:
Actually, you are the one this is crying without just cause.
Are you from Ogidi?
I am, people call me Onitsha man in some places and I answer.
Ogidi is regarded as Onitsha Metropolis and we do not object that, I really don't know why you have been crying about signposts here.

Where are you from by the way?

You keep talking nonsense. We are talking about what is officially regonized. Do I need to be from ogidi? Take a look at the distance of ogidi from onitsha official boundary

MxreR:
If there is any mega establishment in Ogidi either by the state or FG, it will automatically be linked to Onitsha nomenclature, because Onitsha serves as the metro area where it is located, not because Onitsha people are superior or inferior but because it is the most popular in that region. This is Onitsha Port, it is located in Ogbaru. Are you aware?

So only FG mega projects? How about official addresses for residential areas and businesses?

MxreR:
For instance even in Christendom. There is one Bishop called Bishop on the Niger(Onitsha metropolis), this bishop oversees all those areas that formed part of Onitsha metroplis.

Lol. See clueless example. The Christian church creates its administrative territory anyhow. In Anglican church some parishes are under archdeaconry outside their local local government

pazienza:
I don't know for Ogbaru people.
But I know you can't erect any signpost in Obosi, Oba Nkpor, Umuoji, Ogidi and write it Onitsha.

No one will tolerate it in Idemili, anyone telling you it will be tolerated here, is just playing to gallery.

Lol. I don't know why these people can't face the truth so that a solution can be found. Even ogbaru hinterlands of iyiowa etc don't add onitsha. The part of ogbaru where the naval post is located don't have indigenous people but empty bush acquired by government long ago. Same with the army barracks which is obosi but bears onitsha because it was acquire earlier by government

BrownRoofRep:
Obosi or Ogidi natives in Lagos, Kano or Abuja will tell you they are from Onitsha. I do so myself and there's no sense of inferiority with that.
Once you are close home the narrative certainly changes.

You should also understand that Onitsha is just a native community that developed and became popular while there likes of Enugu, Port Harcourt etc are not. They are metropolitan City developed as such from day zero. Enugu is not a native communities neither is Port Harcourt.
Even at that, natives of Obio/Akpor don't see their towns as Towns as PH. They've either say Obio Akpor or their various towns like Rumuokoro, Rumuodumaya, Rukpokwu etc. Natives of these places don't bear PH in their sign posts but they don't object like Ogidi, Nkpor etc if tentants ass PH in their sign posts.

The above is simply a because Port Harcourt is nobody's community.
Most important reason you see a rapid reactions from natives of Obosi, Ọgidi and Nkpor is because of the notorious trait of dragging their neighboring communal land and by Onitsha people. Such sign post will certainly be an invitation to Onitsha people to fight for our ancestral and.
Furthermore, we must uphold or community names, city or not.

The last time I was in Ihiala they were calling me Onitsha man and I did not object.

You keep blabbing. Show ogidi ontsha written on any sign or keep quiet. We are talking officially gazetted names you are talking about your personal encounter

globemoney:
Umahi is performing too but I don’t just like seeing people saying he’s performed better than Obiano. Obiano has completed over 5 bridges including the longest in SE. Obiano met IGR at 400m/month, right about now it’s over 2 billion and he’s targeting 5 billion.
Not to mention Agriculture, 20m community projects etc

Obiano should focus on city centre and embark on aggressive urban renewal and massive beautification of onitsha inner city

pazienza:
MXrep has a valid point.

You dare not erect any signboard in Ogidi and write Onitsha below it. The Youths will burn it down. Same is Applicable to Obosi and Nkpor.

It is acceptable that Parts of Iyienu, Ikenga, Nkwelle Ogidi are within Onitsha metropolis, but this is only for academic purposes.

For practical purposes, you will never be allowed to call any part of Ogidi, Onitsha. Doing so will give the impression that Ogidi is under (inferior) to Onitsha.

A proud Ogidi will never accept that. It will always be called Building material market Ogidi, Idemili North LGA, Anambra. You will never see Onitsha appended there.
Same is applicable to Nkpor and Obosi.
Why should it be Ogidi, Onitsha? Why can't it be Onitsha, Ogidi?

And by the way, we have Awada Obosi and Awada Onitsha. Obosi people will never allow you append the name Onitsha to their own part of Awada, I na awu Ala?


I believe the right thing is to get a new neutral name for the entire new city now comprising of Onitsha town, Obosi, Nkpor,Ogidi, Nkwerre ezunaka, Ogbunike, Ogbaru, etc acceptable to all stake holders, like Portharcourt serves for all Ikwerre towns, Okrika towns, Ogoni towns within the metropolis, instead of maybe trying to force the name "Rebisi" on everyone.

Enugu is also another example of a neutral name which encompasses many independent towns, such as Ngwo, Nike, Amechi, Ugwuaji, Akwuke, who form the Enugu metropolis.
You would agree with me that it would have been hard to get all these independent towns to accept officially, the name "Ngwo", to serve for everyone .

A neutral name should be looked for the new city. This whole greater Onitsha thing, hmmm, it will not work o! Onitsha people sabi drag land, if you name the place Onitsha Now, tomorrow they will start claiming it. Biko, ka onye obuna zaa afa nna ya o!

And this is exactly my suggestion before miscreants started attacking me. The neighbouring towns rejected onitsha let another general name be used and the whole urban metro become one city

Even without forensic analysis atiku will still burst their rigging

kahal29:
I dey laugh Atiku and his san's... Waiting for Wole Olanikpekun, Lateef Fagbemi, Akin Olugimi, Niyi Akintola to show appearance For PMb and APC.... This one na just the beginning

Remember the story of David and Goliath?