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mhisbliss:
I've argued this before, so I'm over it

mhisbliss:
You're very Normal as long as you're not having feelings for a guy

debygrin:
abi oo... till d true one pass by..going to be treating myself like a queen

trapQ:
Stop saying what you don't know. A parent loves their child wether that child is good or bad.

Did we obey Jesus before he came and died for us?
Say what you know

debygrin:
be like me.. no relationship.. zero worries... 100% peace

Safiaa:
You can google tribing to see it for yourself. It’s one of the most common and easiest ways lesbians pleasure themselves.

mhisbliss:
Really? Mind throwing more light? How is it done?

Mordecai:
Quite right. You don't argue. You just bully those you can.

EmpresFIDEL, JoshMedia and all the others, feel free to express yourselves. The bully is gone.

TBH, the pleasure I got from seeing mycoplasma run was almost orgasmic...

TonyeBarcanista:
Punishment for wrong doing is a perfect display of love. It is the negative side of the reward given to loved one that does something inappropriate. It is the consequence of our action or behavior. Every action, behavior or deed either attract reward or punishment. If you love a child and you fail to punish him or chastise him when he errs, you are simply destroying him/leading him to destructive path, and how can you claim to love a child and still destroy him? Love does not accommodate irresponsible behavior/conduct.

As for God's genocide, the truth is that after the fall of man, God established covenant with Abraham and his seed (Hebrews). The covenant did not cover Gentiles but it only extend to those that treat Abraham and Gus seeds right. But Jesus came to give the grace to the whole world and extend the covenant beyond the seeds of Abraham.

Mordecai:
Lol.
You want to go now. Where are your arguments? Bring it on.

Some people just come online with their ignorance to bully others instead of to learn.

They can easily be identified the ways bullies are.
Just stand up to them and they run away...

Safiaa:
okay you win!!!

Safiaa:
We can all find bible quotes to back our claims, at the end of the day I can’t force you to believe My opinions. To your last question, look at it like this. Your mother trains you, she teaches you right from wrong. As you grow you become rebellious and antisocial to society. You decide to murder someone and as a consequence for your actions, you end up serving the rest of your life in jail. The mother supports the judge with the life sentence. Does this mean the love for the child dies? What I’m trying to say is we as humans need to take responsibility for our actions. Our actions lead to consequences. If you live a life of sin, you shall suffer the repercussions. This doesn’t take any form unconditional love away. This is strictly the point i’m trying to make.

Mordecai:
I can actually feel you and realmindz "masturbating" on this thread, going at theists and using every opportunity to insult God, whom you already know, they hold in very high esteem.
That does not show us how enlightened you are. It is just a hallmark of bigotry and half-education.
Now to the issues you raised, let us start with an allegory.
Sometime back, Dalton proposed an atomic model that answered the scientific questions of his day. He wasn't 100% accurate. But he was right about many aspects of the atom. Today, we know much more. Is he vilified? Nope. Because science is a work-in-progress.
Newton proposed his own model of the universe. For all intents and purposes, it held true, at least for the level of scientific discovery during his time.
Years later, Einstein showed its limitations.
Was Newton a liar? Do we insult his theories and propositions?
No wise man would. We seek to understand more and build on it.
Same with religion. You cannot pick the Bible and decide to vilify the God of the Bible because some 6 million Jews died in gas chambers.
You do not have the faintest idea of the concept of free-will.
Even with science, Heisenberg proposed the limitations to measuring some quantities as absolutes in relation to other quantities.
So is theism. It is also a work-in-progress. The Holy books were written by humans. Maybe they were inspired. Maybe not. For the time in history for which they were written, they were not invalid. But they also make it clear that there are no absolutes except one.
Most concepts or laws in them break down when they get to that limit.
What is that limit? It has been recognized in some holy books as the will of a supreme being. A Being we still do not understand. They didn't too - the writers. Like the blind men in the classic poem, they just talked about the part of the elephant they were able to feel. We only strive to understand more today.
Now you believe in science. So you should take that Being, that limitation to all laws as the equivalent of your Heisenberg's principle.
Stop bullying theists online. Go back home and read and study and know how infinitesimal you are before coming here to gloat.
Religion has its shortcomings. As science does. Just as magicians utilize science and illusions to control an audience, religious leaders do too. Some abuse that power, others don't.
If you feel like a fighter, go out and fight the abuse. Not the Science. Not the Religion. And definitely not the God they worship.

TonyeBarcanista:
Errm Pls God's love is unconditional, same with Mother's love.

However, God is only pleased with those that obey him and they will be rewarded afterlife while those that refused to Obey him will be punished. But his love for all human is unshakable. That doesn't mean HE won't punish/reward us for our actions.

In like manner, the love a mother has for her child is unconditional that doesn't mean she won't punish or reward behaviors. That she loves her child doesn't mean she will be pleased with him even when he's wrong.. A mother may punish a disobedient child but it doesn't mean she doesn't love him.

Safiaa:
So if the child doesn’t obey their parents, the love for the child dies? I’m confused sir, and you know this is not true.

So God only loves Christians?

God’s love is unconditional to all human beings, whether you’re a believer or not.

But when you die, you must face your own consequences of your sins. That has nothing to do with his love, that’s more so the reason why he tries to touch the heart of non believers.

Chochovini:
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LOLSSSS Hahahahahahahahahahahaha

Chochovini:
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Mycoplasma (x3) !!! how many time did I call you? In fact, U too much. Very practical and funny too.

Safiaa:
So what are the conditions generally that a child MUST have for a mother to love him/her?

What are the conditions that a human MUST have for Jesus to love you?

Safiaa:
Please educate me on unconditional love. I might learn something new today actually, I’m enlightened.

TonyeBarcanista:
Again you missed it Darling...

The child of a mother is seen as the flesh of the mother (and father too). Mother's love for their Children is borne out of the fact that mothers see their children as theirs. The new born is not just a child, he's an extension of the personality, flesh and blood of the mother. The new born came from her womb and was nurtured from day zero by her. The new born is her just as Jesus is considered son and part of His Holy Father (God).

No other relationship has such strong connection. We choose to love and fall in love based on our perception of the personality of the person involved and how we anticipate the person will fit in our lives perfectly. If in the course of the relationship we find irrational personality traits or realise that what we had perceived runs counter to reality, it is only rational to reappraise the situation and decide whether or not the love would still exist with the "new" person.

If I meet you, I asume you are a spiritual girl (Christian), decent and a virgin and fell in love with your personality (person) but I later realised that you are a club girl, indecent, cheat and non-virgin, it is only rational that I do a reappraisal to determine whether your person (upon this realisation) will fit into my ideal requirement. If it doesn't, the rational thing for me to do is to break up and thereby falling out of love.

Safiaa:
There is heaven and hell due to the consequences of our actions. Jesus loves you regardless of whatever sin you commit, but when death arrives you must face the consequences of your OWN decisions. That has nothing to do with the unconditional love that we’re talking about. A child must face the consequences of their bad actions, regardless of the unconditional love a parent will have for their child.

All I’m trying to say is that, mother and child love is unconditional.

Whatever that child may do to you, whatever characteristics they have or do not have, you will love that child forever on this earth. They’re minor exception like parents disowning their children, but for the most part it doesn’t happen.

EmpresFIDEL:
Whatever you ask in my name, this I will do, that the Father may be glorified in the Son. John 14vs 13, Until now you have asked nothing in my name. Ask, and you will receive, that your joy may be full.

john 16vs 24. You ask and do not receive, because you ask wrongly, to spend it on your passions.
John 14vs3. some people ask without working towards what they want.. wisdom is profitable to direct. we should not use prayer in place where common sense should be applied.

EmpresFIDEL:
okay sir.. I can't put you through in just one day.. but one thing you should know is that it's God will for us to ask.

EmpresFIDEL:
God knows how needs, he just wants us to ask..

if our earthly father can give us what we ask, how much more will God give.. even if we don't ask he still provide..

EmpresFIDEL:
Ask the Holy Spirit to teach you as you continue to read your Bible.

Safiaa:
No. despite all these commandments, whether we decide to abide by them or not, the love Jesus has for us remains.

Just like as a parent you expect your child to abide by certain rules, but regardless you’ll still love them and treat them as your own. That is unconditional regardless of whatever.

Now in a relationship, man to woman, take some certain conditions away, and the love will eventually fizzle out. You love them based on what they can offer you, not for simply being who they are. That’s the difference.

Safiaa:
No. despite all these commandments, whether we decide to abide by them or not, the love Jesus has for us remains. Just like as a parent you expect your child to abide by certain rules, but regardless you’ll still love them and treat them as your own. That is unconditional regardless of whatever.

Now in a relationship, man to woman, take some certain conditions away, and the love will eventually fizzle out. You love them based on what they can offer you, not for simply being who they are. That’s the difference.

Tallesty1:
There's no such a thing as unconditional love, not on earth and not even in the realm of the spirits. Even God's love isn't unconditional otherwise there would be no need for him to ask us to keep his commandments and believe in Jesus.

To love unconditional means they can kill all your family and you will still love them the same. And hey! What will a man do with a woman who doesn't have vagina?

JoshMedia:
Looking unto Jesus the author and finisher of faith, is what the Bible says, Jesus is a good example of prayer before eating, when he broke bread and prayed before Eating with his disciples.

Christians love the way they live, and know what they derive from it.

So, leave them alone!