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PoliticsRe: Sanusi: Derugulation Will Cause Inflation by MyJoe: 9:40am On Nov 06, 2009
naijaking1:
This is not about his corruption fighting efforts---which is good, this is about his understanding of simple free market economics. That deregulation will cause inflation is a fallacy, otherwise US, UK, Germany, and other free market economies would have had run away inflation a long time ago.
Those countries you mentioned are governed by laws. In Nigeria these importers will simply form a cabal and ensure that local refineries never work. Read The Guardian editorial on this issue. What many are saying is that the government should take the basic step of fixing the refineries first. Then your free market might make sense.
LiteratureRe: Poetry Put Youths To Sleep.Why? by MyJoe: 1:49pm On Nov 03, 2009
@ OP

People tend to react negatively to poetry because it can be tedious. One major reason is that poets themselves don't help matters. They make poems difficult in order to score points with poetry critics. But I recently came across a children educational magazine called OHL (Oliver Home Learning) in which they have a regular poetry column. They try to teach kids poems by using simple poems and showing the kids how to write poems themselves.
LiteratureRe: How Can I Improve My Writing Skills? by MyJoe: 1:37pm On Nov 03, 2009
DreaShola:
Sure I know I have got the talent its just that I dont know how to start How I wish I can take a class that will help
There are now writing courses available but mainly in schools abroad. I may be able to help you, though.
PoliticsRe: Ribadu Lodged $15m Ibori’s Bribe With CBN – Waziri by MyJoe: 12:18pm On Nov 03, 2009
wirinet:
You people are still here trying to defend the undefendable? Let me ask more questions of Ribadu's motives for collecting the money.

The money was given one month before Ibori lost his immunity, why did he not begin prosecution immediately after May 27, 2007 and had to wait 6 months before embarking on prosecuting Ibori for corruption? Was he waiting for permission from above? Also did Ribadu at any time institute a case of Bribery against Ibori or he lumped the bribery case with the other corruption cases against Ibori.

Given Ribadu's public image of anti-corruption czar, what gave Ibori the liver to attempt to bribe Ribadu? Since the transaction took place in Andy  Uba's house and with his knowledge, was OBJ aware of the transaction? Since Uba was about the closest confidant of OBJ.

When was the first time Ribadu disclosed the Bribery allegation, was it after he lost his job?

I do not know how people to tie Ribadu's Removal with Ibori's prosecution.  Ribadu had already taken Ibori to court before he was sent to Kuru, and once a caes is in court, it has left the control of EFCC. If Ibori's arrest was the problem, he would have been sent to Kuru way before he arrested Ibori, and the case would have been allowed to die without it being charged to court like numerous others.

I am not saying Ribadu is Financially corrupt, but i think he is ambitiously power corrupt, he wanted power at all cost and was ready to compromise, blackmail and lick OBJ's ass to achieve it. If third term had succeeded, i am sure OBJ would have promoted him to the post of the first Inspector Field Marshal, the world had ever had, giving the rate at which he was being promoted.
With respect, you have raised these points in many threads and they have been addressed but let me try again.
1. Motive. Ribadu did not ask Ibori to meet him in a hotel room as he could have done if he wanted to keep witnesses out and pocket the money. He went there with aids and immediately had the money paid into an account and obtained a receipt for it. Paying it into the CBN shows clearly that his motive was not to pocket the money before later changing his mind as many are now suggesting, since individuals are not allowed open bank accounts with the apex bank. He would have called up some crooked bank manager and cut a deal.
2. Time of arrest. Law enforcement is a task that requires stealth. You build up your case before moving. With big men you have to be extra careful. If there is one prima facie against someone and another case is in the offing, I see nothing wrong in waiting to put the two cases together to save the tax payer some expense.
3. When was the first time Ribadu disclosed the Bribery allegation, was it after he lost his job? When did he pay the money into a CBN account and obtain a teller for it? Was it after he lost his job?
4. Liver to approach Ribadu. What is this? Ever heard of a guy called Okechukwu Opene? He was an appeal court judge someone had the "liver" to approach with a bribe of a mere N12m and he accepted! With $15m in your breast pocket you would approach J Edgar Hoover! You think a guy with a record like Ibori's would hesitate to approach anyone?
5. Ribadu's promotion. I believe in due process and I think you are right to feel angst at this. But Ribadu did not promote himself. The idea that he approached Ibori to help make him IG is clearly an afterthought of Ibori in his efforts to discredit Ribadu. Nigerians know Ibori supported third term but Ribadu haters now prefer to believe Ibori's lies.
6. The issue. The issue is not a about Ribadu's sainthood because nobody ever said he was. I may have qualms with some procedures adopted, but he did his best as our anti corruption czar so the issue is how we treat our best. If Ibori is prosecuted tomorrow, people will still curse Ribadu. Someone is even questioning the language in which Waziri made her revelation!

The Nigerian political class is like that. We are talking about people who went as far as to buy houses abroad with Ribadu's name. They opened foreign bank accounts in his name and paid in money. These things being written in this thread, it makes me shudder to see how we treat our best in this country!


Remii: Hunhn, so many revelations in the land, one day, I repeat one day, someone would take action to correct situation of things in this Quantry (country).  Wole Soyinka did similar thing by returning FRSC money paid to his personal account, also Olikoye Ransome Kuti returned IBB"s parting gift of N5m paid into his account after his assignment as Minister of Heath. May God incease the number of good men in the land.
Amen.
LiteratureRe: How Can I Improve My Writing Skills? by MyJoe: 2:54pm On Nov 02, 2009
To do anything exceptionally, two or three things are required.
1. Talent
2. Discipline
3. The third factor - something you have no control over - call it luck, time and chance, or God, depending on your beliefs.

1. Talent is inborn.
2. Discipline - this is where the work is. You have been told to read. Yes, that is basic. Read wide. African writing, non-African writing. Fiction, non fiction. Modern, ancient. The list goes on. But without discipline, reading would be useless. When you read, you need to develop a keen sense of language and differences. This is what I mean: there is a town called Damascus in the Bible. So the day a friend of mine came across the name Stella Damasus-Aboderin, he called Stella Damascus. You can't be a good writer if you can't spot the smallest of differences. Discipline also entails working at it. Can you have regular schedule of waking up, say, 5AM to write everyday?
Finally, a disciplined writer is not lazy. Perhaps I should have made this a point of its own. I remember travelling two towns away to get a piece of information to complete just a paragraph in an article I was writing. I also remember finishing an article for the papers but just on a whim decided to crosscheck the facts again. It turned out two facts were wrong and both of them had come from wikipedia!
And no, a disciplined writer would never write: please i need your tips and ideas. He will write[b] Please I need your tips and ideas.[/b] Yes, you must practise punctuated writing, even in an anonymous forum.
There are lots of other tips, but have got to to back to work right now.
Good luck!
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Christianity EtcRe: Welcome "shakerz": The Most Incisive Muslim On Nairaland. by MyJoe: 6:40pm On Oct 30, 2009
KunleOshob:
I think deepsight is being mis-understood, just beocs he is not in the box of dogma which the religious and atheist alike are guilty of. People tend to mis-understand him. we expect every body to be in a box so we can profile them in our understanding. What most people fail to realize is that some people are now searching for the truth below the surface of the religious dogma we have been indoctrinated with. These group of people are those who are earnestly seeking the truth and trying to understand it. In actual fact this journey is a long lonely and never ending journey. The seeker is constantly learning and his views might change from time to time as things become clearer to him. Such a person would be difficult to categorize becos the person is on a journey of discovery and does not assume any rigid position beyond certain incontrovertible facts. As such the person may be described as inconsistent.

The funny thing thing is that deepsight who is now being accused of inconsistency was recently accusing Pastor AIO of being inconsistent, To me they are on the same path even though they might have taken different routes to this path. My brothers keep on searching an the truth would finally be revealed.
The above is useful. Obviously Chris has a problem with someone compartmentalising the Bible. May I venture that that is a problem created by the Grail Message which Deep Sight has evidently been profoundly, but not totally, influenced by. I, too, have questioned this tendency of Grail adherents but only in terms of the spiritual value of the Bible as the revealed word of God. In terms of usefulness, the Bible is like most books of that nature - you find some parts useful, others not. My personal understanding of things happens to accord with deism and I find no inconsistencies in my position whatsoever.
PoliticsRe: Useless Journalism In Nigeria (Name and Shame) by MyJoe: 5:35pm On Oct 30, 2009
@ OP
Sagamite is opening a Pandora's box. If you take any Nigerian newspaper and decide to tear off the pages with obvious grammatical and typographical errors, you will hardly have any pages left. The only exception I can find in this case would be THE PUNCH. The rest, their editors don't bother with their job, which is editing - accuse me of generalisation, and I will defend my position. The kinds of problems highlighted by Sagamite are all too common. Something else I find particularly worrying is their inability to follow up stories. Again, THE PUNCH has been putting up some effort here, but it falls far short. On the electronic media, one has to agree with nex.
nex: NTA staff are better trained and more experienced than these other trial and error journalists all over the place.

The thing is that NTA journalists cover stories their bosses want them to cover and the private practitioners cover stories their bosses want them to cover.

Have you ever heard Silverbird staff carry a story about Ben Murray Bruce sleeping with Stella Obasanjo? Have you heard MBI carry news that Chris Oyakhilome has not accounted for all the money he makes in his Christ Embassy or that his miracles are suspicious?

So what are we saying here? Which journalists are better trained and know what their jobs entail?

The complete destruction of NTA was mainly with Tony Iredia as Director General.
NTA is the only TV station you see some professionalism. I think Iredia's problem was his pedigree. When Obasanjo appointed the DG of NOA to head NTA, I sighed. And the man did not disappoint as he saw the NTA as a continuation of his last job.

But there is a general disregard for standards around here that goes beyond the journalism profession. Try reading Lagos State Laws. Or pick up any spelling textbook approved by a state ministry of education for use by our school kids. Could it be that, to use a cliche, the chicken is coming home to roost? I mean, all those folks who didn't bother to attend GCE centres are now becoming editors and lawyers and doctors? Just wondering.
CelebritiesRe: Rita Dominic: Is She Really All That? by MyJoe: 4:31pm On Oct 30, 2009
londoner: Why do some Nigerians feel that anytime a man finds a light skin woman attractive it must be because of her skin color?? If Rita Dominic looks "extremely local" then how do U describe the likes of Ini Edo and Omotola. What the heck is the definition of local in the first place?The girl is beautiful and a great actress. That is what got her where she is. Show us your picture so we can see if U are the opposite of local;whatever that is sef.
Word!

THE AMAKA: best dressed nollywood actress? she may have won the title but that doesnt mean she deserved it.
CAN YOU BELIEVE WHAT SHE WORE THE DAY SHE WENT TO ACCEPT HER AWARD AS BEST DRESSED?
SHE LOOK HORRID!!   
a flippin hot ass mess! lolol
best dressed my foot.
undecided
This lady is always a contrarian! And not a dumb one too. Not sure whether she needs re-branding or just enjoys doing it.
CrimeRe: Modern Day Cannibals In Thailand Eat Black Man For Dinner- Truth by MyJoe: 5:11pm On Oct 28, 2009
Afam, I hope you don't seriously believe this, or at least, have some doubts. Heard two elderly men discussing it on my way home last night. Speaking in pidgin, one was saying, "The Chinese don't have food; that is why they eat grasses, cockroaches and anything. When they come here, we treat them well but over there they eat black men." The other was replying, "ehneeeeen ehneeeeeeen!"

Here is my take:
1. The man is not African.
2. These are medical students practising on a donated cadaver, hence the white coats and all. Medical students outside our clime do that sort of thing.
3. These guys obviously have a wicked sense of humour so they decided to throw in some garnished plates of spathetti to create sensational pictures.
TravelRe: Somali Girls Are The Most Beautiful In Africa! by MyJoe: 4:37pm On Oct 28, 2009
al qaeda: applenose, you de enjoy oh. you gather angels and leave us here wit demons and witches. e no good oh.
grin grin grin grin grin grin
CultureRe: Any Esan In The House? by MyJoe: 4:05pm On Oct 28, 2009
@maedan, Donpuzo

First names are often abbreviated and stylised, but not usually surnames. If your first name is Michael it would be ok if a friend called you Mike or Mikey. But it would be inappropriate if he changed your surname Okoloise to Kolly. If he did it would be in an informal context only.  Why? Because surnames rate higher in terms of existentiality. A surname is fixed. Your first name is variable. The name of a people is existential. Typically, it has existed from time immemorial and no one actually knows how it came about. When the Europeans came, they changed so many names - not only in Africa, but wherever they went. Indigenous peoples have since realised the pomposity of this and have since gone to town with brushes and paints, rechristening things. There is a popular columnist in Nigeria who has almost had the Igbo version of fatua placed on his head because he can't stop writing their name is Ibo instead of Igbo. (Igbos have launched this campaign for years and dictionaries made in Western countries now carry Igbo instead of the anglicised Ibo.) Indians have since reverted from Bombay to Mumbai, Madras to Chennai, Calcutta to Kolkatta, etc.

We are not talking about the evolution of a language here. We are talking about the arbitrary change of a town's name. The English imported the parlement from French and anclised it to parliament. Fine. But the Romans who colonised Britannia for centuries did not latinise the name of England or any of its towns.

BTW I don't consider it such an important matter as say, what enibhokhan will eat, and am not launching the brush and paint campaign myself. I only made a suggestion and since Donpuzo and the very brilliant maedan counter that it is not really important, I am trying to explain the reasons some think it is and how far others have gone to change things. Cheers.
Christianity EtcRe: Pray For Israel! by MyJoe: 1:11pm On Oct 28, 2009
May kelly:
Do not worry about Isreal, Isreal is blessed forever.

Light came that they may see (woe to them that refused to accept Lord Jesus as their Saviour) but they choose darkness. Bombing, Bombing- because they know not the Prince of Peace.
And do the Israelis "accept Lord Jesus as their Saviour"?
RomanceRe: Ladies Are You Looking Forward To Getting Married? by MyJoe: 6:14pm On Oct 27, 2009
SexyLeamon: @Poster, You sound like you want a wedding, not a marriage.  u act as if marriage is about the ceremony and the ring and all the material garbage. the wedding is only one day!!! i don't think you said anything in that question that showed u were remotely ready or interested in an actual marriage. u didn't even say kids, u said "cute" kids. wow. what if u have ugly kids, will you throw them away? hahaha very funny thread.
grin
CultureRe: Juju Claims Are Fraudulent: An African Fetish (Published In 1905) by MyJoe: 4:25pm On Oct 27, 2009
bilymuse:
RICHY

You cannot blame juju for the Osu system in Igboland, your argument is shallow, but are related but not mutually exclusive.
Bilymuse,
Can you educate me on this? Thanks.
PoliticsRe: Is Climate Change For Real Or A Fraud? by MyJoe: 3:37pm On Oct 27, 2009
bawomolo:
that's true, the question is whether man is speeding or interrupting a natural process.

we all saw what the behavior of man did to the ozone layer around Australia.   It's easily to say global warming isn't real if you aren't living under constant smug is some city in china.
That is the question. There may be natural cycles, yes, but what we have been pumping out all these years,  something has to give. We need to start living responsibly. Suspecting everything the white man says because a millennium bug did not go off will not be useful.

wirinet:
,  The sell us fads periodically so as to milk us ,  We had the AIDS Fad and we thought we will all be dead by the year 2000 AD.
huh
Christianity EtcRe: Famous Quotes From The Great Noetic & Davidylan (phd.) by MyJoe: 2:02pm On Oct 27, 2009
@Deep Sight

[b]Before your exchanges with Noetic sink into the pit of ridicule and dialogues of the deaf,  you may want to consider opening a thread with the Bible itself as subject matter. [/b]Contrary to the opinions expressed by many, Noetic's performance here https://www.nairaland.com/nigeria/topic-336988.96.html was not bad if one considers it from the perspective of a Bible believer. Noetic was able to cite Bible passages in defence of his position that Jesus is the only way to God. Others equally cited the Bible in support of their position that love is the ultimate religion and bridge to the Almighty but Noetic explained or attempted to explain them away, using the Bible. That leaves us with the question of the Bible itself. Is it the word of God? If so, is it undiluted? If its claim to be the word of God in totality (II Tim 3:16) is to be rejected, why? What about other traditions that appear to have influenced the Bible, for example, the Gilgamesh Epic?
What I am saying, put differently, is this: You cannot puncture Noetic's beliefs, because he accepts them by faith.

Hear him:
my problem with the assertion and quote above is that . . . ,  .while we welcome your opinion on issues, u are reluctant to accommodate "faith" inspired opinions. ,  .simply because u consider them dogmatic, not forgetting that your opinions too are dogmatic.

The quote above chooses to disbelieve the gospel on the basis of sarcasm . . . . . . .what happened to the liberty of believing the gospel?
Wherever faith is in question, testability is the normal scientific sense is usually elusive. But Noetic is a man of learning and he knows faith is also a possession of Muslims, Hindus and others that he believes are clasping an empty shell. On that basis faith itself can be questioned since its object can well be hollow. So any archaeological expeditions on your part should be aimed at unearthing the basis for Noetic's faith. Did God materialise to tell him nobody can get to him while spurning the Christian bridge? If yes, can we have details? If not, is the Bible the sole exponent of this idea? May we examine the Bible then?
The worst thing to do with a believer is to ridicule his beliefs unless your sole objective is to win arguments for their own sake. The best you can do is to engage him in ISSUES in an atmosphere of mutual respect

By the way, I am talking about Noetic. For Davidylan, I am not so sure. He is a little complicated for me.
CultureRe: Juju Claims Are Fraudulent: An African Fetish (Published In 1905) by MyJoe: 1:35pm On Oct 27, 2009
wirinet:
Juju almost ends up bad, even if it initially looks beneficial.  If you visit a traditional medicine man for any favours, and by some stroke of luck or as a result of some vague revelations or predictions, you get satisfactory results, you will from then be held hostage by the medicine man. You will then be subject to to control of the medicine man, and you will henceforth be unable to make decisions without input from the medicine man. The same applies to the new age demon casting and all powerful pastors or prophets. Once you get into their hold, you cannot escape, they would use the hold on your mind to rule your life and collect your possessions. Some are so dependent on their pastors that they do not feel a sense security until the pastor lays hands on them or prays for them.

It is this mind control that is the most dangerous aspect of juju.
The above is my personal observation with people I know who dabble into these things.
Forum GamesRe: Done It, Never Done It Or Want To Do It. by MyJoe: 10:44am On Oct 27, 2009
Never done it.

Asked Missy B to marry me. Done it?
CultureRe: Juju Claims Are Fraudulent: An African Fetish (Published In 1905) by MyJoe: 6:30pm On Oct 26, 2009
Meanwhile, I have sent that wikipedia link to a guy who told me of his friend who can wash his hands with concentrated acid. Let's see if they can make some bucks! wink
CultureRe: Juju Claims Are Fraudulent: An African Fetish (Published In 1905) by MyJoe: 6:25pm On Oct 26, 2009
POSAKOSA1:
^^^^^^Anyone engaging in dialogue with you is wasting their time.
No, they are not. The man says he has carried out extensive investigation which spans visits to places and libraries and interviews with shamans in several continents. Yet, he saw no evidence in proof of juju. So we can probably learn a lot from him. Afam, of course, says he has personally witnessed demonstrations of the paranormal. I have not had any of the opportunities either man has. That means that since I am an open minded man, I cannot speak authoritatively as they. I can, however, listen to them and file away in my mind what they say for future reference.
CultureRe: Juju Claims Are Fraudulent: An African Fetish (Published In 1905) by MyJoe: 3:22pm On Oct 26, 2009
ChinenyeN:
I'm pretty sure people do not know all there is to know about the universe. . .
Correct! It appears man is simply not granted that knowledge. That is why no single religion's theology is sufficient to lay bare everything. That is why some of us have journeyed from religious absolutism to cognitive dissonance, and finally to rationality.
CultureRe: Juju Claims Are Fraudulent: An African Fetish (Published In 1905) by MyJoe: 1:37pm On Oct 26, 2009
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You mean this guy is 20? Then permit me to say I am highly impressed with the profundity of his intellect and logic having read this thread from the beginning.

To the issue of the existence or otherwise of juju. One can surmise that some people are of a logical bent while some are of the supernatural. I believe it is a matter of bent more than all else because in matters such as this empirical observations are hardly empirical since your bent predetermines the weight or interpretation you give or are prepared to give to what you see or hear. May I humbly disagree with those who see the position of RichyBlack as an issue here since I have encountered some religious folk who are profoundly logical, even rational, while holding on to the core of their religious beliefs. The mistake good followers of their religions make is in thinking that faith is ever enough! But then that is the true nature of religion - you accept it by faith and then everything follows. You ask no questions, following dogmatically. Two examples I can think of right now of religio-rationalists are Rowan Williams (Archbishop of Canterbury) and Desmond Tutu (Archbishop Emeritus of Cape Town). To the list must I add RichyBlack. Problem is such people usually end up not accepting many of the offerings of their religious system, at least not literally. (Try discussing reincarnation with Catholic priests you know and you will be surprised how many of them accept it) Now that makes you a bad follower of your religion, as it is. But since these religio-rationalists can handle it, I personally won't go and on about it. I guess their position is that they can live with their religious since they accept the core issues such as redemption, divinity, etc, but that since the system is administered by humans and is, therefore, not perfect, the individual owes it to himself to let his own rational process play a role.
[b]Does juju exist? Well, I had my early childhood in Edo State where belief in it is rife as I still travel down there occasionally. I am now in my fourth decade on earth, so you can imagine how much of these stories I have ingested. Let me state, however, that they have all remained that: STORIES! I am yet to personally witness anything supernatural.[/b]
But is that sufficient for me to conclude that there are no powers deposited somewhere that some people, through some strange alchemy, have discovered the secrets of tapping into? NO! Because (1) There are other things in existence which I have never seen. (2) The fact that something sounds strange does not mean it cannot exist. (3) There are people I do not associate with frivolities who claim to have personally witnessed some of these things.
The other argument used by those who assert that these things don't exist is that they go against the laws of nature/physics. Well, this one is easy to counter: Who told you nature is the ultimate reality? There could be powers, systems, laws and orders, higher than nature, powers who command and nature obeys.
Does juju exist? I don't know, maybe one day, I will. But honestly, I am not interested. There was a column of ants out there this morning. If you pass that way without looking down, you would hear nothing because they make no sound. But pay them some attention, get a sound intensifier and you will be surprised how much noise they make, those ants! One of the reasons I am not into religion is because it (at least, the African variant) places you in one whirlpool of unfounded, formless fears - demons of barrenness, witches of joblessness and no husband, etc. I would rather have my peace and die in it than live with formless fears. Most witch stories are probably made up to scare people. If witches exist they probably only hurt people who are diabolically inclined since no rational person ever got hurt. Or why would Oba Ovonranmwen's jujus procured with a copious amount of fresh human heads evince less potency than those made by the OPC rookies who regularly hold maneuvres near Afam's football pitch?
CultureRe: Any Esan In The House? by MyJoe: 5:52pm On Oct 23, 2009
EARLMAGIC:
Hey guys,
I read this post and decided to join. the Esan names that have been changed also includes places like Irowa now called Irruah, Obiaza now called Ubiaja, Ebhokhinmi now calleds Ewohinmi, ebhoato, now called Ewatto,
Also the names of the LGAs have all been anglicsized. Esan north, Esan southe east ETC. if you got to lagos u still see Mushin LGA, agege LGA, etc why did we Esan people allow this to happen?
It's sad Earlmagic. I think the Esan people should a hold a conference and revert everything - Ubiaja to Ubiaza, Ekpoma to Ekuma, Irruah to Uriwa, Ewatto to Ebhoato, etc. But first, next time you are talking to someone and he says Ishan, tell them it's not Ishan, but Esan!
Christianity EtcRe: Spreading The Plague Of Hellfire by MyJoe: 5:18pm On Oct 23, 2009
There is no person alive who is associated with an organised religion who can assert with a reasonable degree of success that all his beliefs are concomitant with reason. When you accept a religion, you accept everything that goes with it - doctrine, rituals, etc. When uncomfortable topics like this one are raised, you gloss over them. Lawyers make a fortune out of this - glossing over points that create ripples in the client's case. A religious person does this without even thinking of it. The lawyer does it because his viewpoint is governed by his percuniary interests. So what is the religious person's motive? Is he disingenuous? Sometimes. Sometimes not. The problem is that he accepted the religion as (1) something revealed and (2) express train to salvation.
To convert someone to a religion, you don't need logic. All you need to tell him is that this is what is revealed. Then tell him (1) The "miracles" and signs that accompanied the revelation (appeal to belief in the supernatural). (2) That millions have embraced it and there is an endless queue of millions more waiting to cuddle it (appeal to the band wagon effect) (3) That there is salvation here (appeal to self preservation) (4) That anyone who does not belong here is lost ("come out and be saved", appeal to the feel special effect). (5) That it is urgent (appeal to fear). For without an obsession with the five highlighted elements religion would fail. These five elements appeal to the emotion. Once the emotion processes them a dislocation takes place in the brain and the inborn psychological defenses therein get displaced. The rational part of the brain shuts down and you get a convert.
It is impossible to be a good follower of a religion and reject aspects of its teachings no matter how ludicrous. Being intelligent of having a PhD is rewarding, but does not usually help in this matter.
TV/MoviesRe: Until My Last Breath (Telenovela On AIT) by MyJoe: 3:20pm On Oct 23, 2009
hashbal:
1st and foremost alehandro is a big fool and the producers are taking us for a ride,i hope every1 remebered when alehandro picked up a call on gail's fone and it was that hemenes that called him, bt what suprises me is that uptil now he cant put 1+1 together to know that it was the same police hemenes that called,because that call was enuf to implicate him,
i dnt tink maria is a slut, bt i tink shs stupid, sh ddnt steal some1s hubby bcz in the 1st place hector was tricked to marry romina.
i dont know why she couldnt tell hector that romina kidnapped her daughther.but i guess shs jst a mother and acting how mothers wud act,scared.
alesa doesnt deserve sergio and too bad they end up together in the end because the guy has suffered too much for her and yet she ends up hurting him alwz.
was orphelia raped?i ddnt watch the starting of the programme.
Excellent reading of the story! Thanks.

I will just add that Eilsa is a wonderful woman. Look at her spectacular performance with Romina. Reminds me of what she did when Rodrigo fell into the well. I agree with most of the points made about the director, though. The script of this story has too many loose ends. Alejandro's stupidity borders simply on the impossible. This story is highly engaging, it can keep you at the edge of your sit, but they made a poor job of its finishing. Give me the less engaging but literarily superior Second Chance!
CultureRe: Juju Claims Are Fraudulent: An African Fetish (Published In 1905) by MyJoe: 2:39pm On Oct 23, 2009
SEFAGO:
come was, oba ovonramen that short- i think that is the only interesting thing I am gleaning from thsi article.
RichyBlacK:
If you take a closer look at the picture you'll notice that Oba Ovonramwen was seated.
And in a reclining position.
CelebritiesRe: Who Cares If Omotola Jalade Has Ten Children She Needs to Loose The Weight by MyJoe: 2:49pm On Oct 21, 2009
Missy B:
Lmao!!
Scared of Amebo? She doesn't bite . . . .atleast, not much. cheesy
The name sounds biteful.

Missy B:
embarassed I think he sounds like Chamo. undecided
Don't! I'm unlike anyone you have ever heard of. Anyway, I am still here, waiting. I know you will marry me!
Thanks all! You can to back to the Omotala business now. Cheers.
RomanceRe: Do Virgins Expect Their Boyfriends To Give Them Monyey? by MyJoe: 2:33pm On Oct 21, 2009
@ poster

*laughing uncontrollably*
This is the funniest thread on NL!
CelebritiesRe: Who Cares If Omotola Jalade Has Ten Children She Needs to Loose The Weight by MyJoe: 2:28pm On Oct 21, 2009
Missy B:
Ensure it's a 365 days and nights fast . . . .Anything less won't work.
You say the nicest things, always! - thanks for the advice.

Missy B:
cheesy I get enuff on ma hands . . . .You can help me with this Dear. tongue
You were not seriously handing me over to amebo! Please tell me it was an "attempt at idle, sarcastic banter"!
CelebritiesRe: Who Cares If Omotola Jalade Has Ten Children She Needs to Loose The Weight by MyJoe: 2:20pm On Oct 21, 2009
Missy B:
shocked shocked This Lady is TAKEN . . . .Sorry. smiley
sad
* breaks down, covers his face in sadness*
*brightens*

Oh, well, Im not asking to TAKE you. I want to MARRY you. Anyway, hope you get unTAKEN soon.
*commences fasting and praying*
CelebritiesRe: Who Cares If Omotola Jalade Has Ten Children She Needs to Loose The Weight by MyJoe: 2:06pm On Oct 21, 2009
spikedcylinder:
I hope you know Missy B is fatter than Mo'nique? tongue
No, I don't know, but I don't think so. In any case who informed you her shape is my primary concern or that I don't like fat ladies?
CelebritiesRe: Who Cares If Omotola Jalade Has Ten Children She Needs to Loose The Weight by MyJoe: 1:58pm On Oct 21, 2009
[quote author=!amebo no1 link=topic=339328.msg4772989#msg4772989 date=1256129393]haaa missyb your future husband has been sent from hell heaven, congrats grin grin grin grin grin grin[/quote]Aren't you rude?

Ignore her Missy B!.

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