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Hello Missy B
I have followed your progress on Nairaland and admire you to no tend. Please marry me!

Jakumo:
Interesting comparison.  Nairaland and other subject-specific internet forums offer a degree of anonymity, which, though not air-tight by any means, does serve as an ABSOLUTELY ESSENTIAL layer of user protection, when the topic of discussion often turns to the endemic high-level criminality found in  third-world countries that could turn repressive on a dime, a la China.

As for Facebook and Twitter, maybe I will someday learn to appreciate the benefits accruable subsequent to having ones personal details and photographs available for persual by literally millions of indentity thieves and sundry fraudsters on the internet, but in all likelihood by the time I see the light,  I'll be too old and ugly to put my mug up for inspection anyway.

I concur!

Chrisbenogor:
I was cool with your explanations and of course there are certain places where I cannot say I agree with you but as this thread was for you to explain your beliefs no wahala. It sounds like you have carefully thought out your convictions about God, about existence and all that but when you veer off into the Son of God, eternity, and every other thing, its just going to be guesses and guesses just like other people before you have done, that's all.

GBAM!

reindeer:
@ Bikini
no hard feelings ok?but you sound like someone who's been hurt by a doctor sometimes past.You jumped away from the topic of discussion into that unfortunate statement you made.anyways you are right, when theres a problem in any sector, all stakeholders should share responsibility for the rot, but as we know if the framework and the amenitites are put in place it makes it easier to spot the bad eggs, but when power supply is at its poorest, you really cant blame the doctors or nurses for operating with rechargeable lamps which i believe is the topic of discussion.
Its bad really, ive been there so i know first hand,if you have had a relative rushed into a teaching hospital needing emergency surgery, im sure you wont mind even if they gather fireflies to get illumination, you'd just want your patient to be ok, come to think of it, im sure you'll blame the doctors more if they sit on their butts and allow the patient die because the govt has refused to be responsible.
When all is said and done, i'm so sad for the Nigerian health sector, a sector that boasts of the best brains in different professions dragged down into this cesspit of ineptitude because of some greedy politicians, may God judge them all!
So Biki, can i call you that? I'm hoping you'll join me in expressing collective indignation at the politicians who have reduced nigerians to prehistoric living.

Right. There are doctors who fail to comprehend the very nature of their calling and show disregard for human life. But they must be seen as "bad eggs" and the problem not attributed to the medical profession or allowed to derail us from the issues of kleptocracy and official irresponsibility.

POSAKOSA1:
@ MyJoe, you are very stupid. what a stupid and typical example from a Nigerian and how many people out of the 150 million+ that live in Nigeria have the family connection, to even make use of such family connections, you have to bribe and bribe and bribe,

Ill tell you this, i have met people who attended the most local grammar school in Nigeria and today have become doctors/professionals in various parts of the world and they are doing quite welll,

The only problems ALL IMMIGRANTS abroad face is that of paper <immigration status> hence affecting the standard of living for many, <don't just ask Nigerian illegals abroad, talk to the Mexicans and a host of other immigrants>


abeg carry go jor!

Oh dear! You sure have a strong way of putting your points across and perhaps a little problem comprehending. Good luck!

Those abusing the poster are missing the point - guess that is to be expected on NL. The idea is to get people's views on the CHOICES we have to make, pros and cons. Unfortunately very few constructive things have been said so far - the abusers are, as often, taking over. What I would have thought is obvious from the post is that the poster would rather live at home but goes on living abroad for practical reasons. I challenge the abusers to tell me what is strange about that.

Personally I agree with those who say you stay where works for you. When you leave Nigeria to stay abroad you are only exchanging one set of problems for another and vice versa. When you live at home you have the family and good weather but with stone age infrastructure and a barely functional state. When you go abroad you get a good measure of order and official respect for the human person but there is an inescapable sense of alienation and second class status, not to mention the famous British weather. In both places you have crime but there is a difference - back home there is poor official response to it, abroad the response is good.

Your personal experiences and life aspirations determine which set of problems you prefer to deal with. For example there is an acquaintance of mine with a British passport who will live and die in Lagos because this is the easiest place to make money in the whole world. First class family connections pad him from many of the effects of a dysfunctional state. He can afford silent generators. He can hop on a plane and go anywhere he wishes across the globe. His family connections ensures he does not get caught up in bureaucracies whenever he has business with the state. It has enabled him to become a millionaire (in USD) with a fast-growing chain of businesses at 34.

And recently a friend of mine in the UK has been paying visits home and telling me about "investing in the Nigerian economy". I strongly suspect that for anyone with credit (money, connections, credit facilities, thugs) and a desire to accumulate money, Nigeria is definitely a better place to make home. But there are people who simply can't cope with such a high level of disorder as we have here, a place where the police break the law and have no clue about modern crime fighting. Such people want order, they just want to live comfortably and be HAPPY and are not unduly worried about the "if your country is good why are you here" attitude. You know where they will choose to live. And having family and friends around means far more to some people than others.

Really it is all about CHOICES.

@Pastor AIO

Since you asked, we aren't told. We must thus assume it was delivered through the normal means - messengers - since it would have been stated if it were otherwise like the one said to have been delivered to John at Patmos.

@puskin
[Bliv me, they do. They just don't gv a Bleep about what our views are. . .hmmm except maybe the SSS.]

The idea that Ribadu supported the third term agenda is a fairly recent one. There is simply no shred of evidence to support that assertion. During the third term saga, some PDP elders were of the opinion that people like Ribadu and Soludo should play more active roles in the campaign due to their popularity - but that did not quite materialise.

Outstrip:
I always thought Itohan and Ivie were bini names. I love those names

Nearly all the ethnic groups in Edo and Delta States are culturally similar. Itohan and Ivie are borne both by the Bini and Esan.

Male
Ehimhen* (that is the correct spelling if you are from Ubiaja or Uromi or environs but it becomes Ehimen if you are from Ekpoma, Irrua or environs.) means Goodluck, transliteration is "my guardian angel is good"

Ehichoya - God fights for me (transliteration "my guardian angel fights for me)
Oriabure - it is people we go to for help
Abhuluimhen (Abhuluimen if you are from Ekpoma and environs; "Aburimen" is a horrible European corruption just like Ishan is of Esan) means - I win the matter or case.
Oseghale - God plans
Eronmhonsele (Eromosele, more common spelling though due to the long-lasting effects of European corruption, some now even write "Eronse" means - My prayer is answered.
Ebosele - my medicine (jazz) has succeeded
Asuelinmhen (remember, always change mh to m if you are from Ekpoma or Irrua or nearby) means - my name be mentioned (given to a boy born after a long wait for the male child)
Ekeleoseye* - beauty is of the heart
Airelobhegbe - think if it were you
Akahomhen - they are listening to me
Irebhude - i take advice
Olumhense - he does me right
Okalo - first person
Osolease - his word is final
Oseremhen* - God gives me
Eghonghon* - joy
Idemudia - i am standing (often, not always, given under the same conditions as Asuelinmhen or Amiolemhen
Ikuenobe - I will never succumb to evil
Abumhenre - come to me
Aigbojie - you don't fight the king
Oberaifo(h) - my father's hand never dries
Itobiye - I will forever be grateful to my mother
Onakhurekhanlen - the pursued
Omesan* - a child of Esan
Isimhenmhen* - i prosper in a foreign land (people living abroad)
Uwaokhonye* - the battle is at home
Ateso - you say some, you leave some.
Udo(h) - rock


Female
Itohan - mercy
Inokpoare - I come from a great family
Adese - centre (given a a female born after a succession of male children
Ekpen - respect
Ivie - precious (transliteration, "coral beads"
Iyebagbe - i am not one to be crushed
Ebemhen - what is good
Ejemhen - good place
Omonzehio - the child brings pride
Edewede - the day still breaks
Aisekegbe - we don't know the other person has inside them
Amenamuon - my time does not pass (transliteration, "the water you will drink cannot you by"


*Both male and female

Note: The names may be given based on your mood or just because you like them.

sleekymag:
Only points to the facts that the banks have been up for grabs all along.

"Government ownership" (doesn't sound like nationalising?) - what if there are no buyers? (anyways, i have no problems with the reforms going on, but to say there is no plot therein, is being blind to reality).

I believe they'll definitely find buyers for some of the banks (the ones that had been targeted all along).

Afam:
Let us stop reading the minds of people or manufacturing excuses to support a fallacy.

I think we have been taken for a ride too long in this country we can't see anything good in anyone's actions. We now read meanings to everything. Reminds me of my neighbour who, when Oshiohole called off a strike told me the man had been bought. When he called a strike a few weeks later the man told me the labour leader had just been bought again but just wanted to call a strike to try to prove the contrary. I am not hot for conspiracy theories - I have been watching SLS to see if he is indeed playing what looks like a script - Vanguard, Northern agenda, or any. I have read articles of pro-SLS folks, of the conspiracy theorists, and of middle grounders. I have listened to interviews on Channels and BBC World Service. I have talked to friends. Sorry, but I can't see that the theories hold up. Got to go now,

[(1) We expect that shareholders will be given time to recapitalise banks
(2) We are looking for new capital injection from investors from both local and foreign banks, and we would expect that the creation of an asset management company to remove some of the toxic assets and boost liquidity.
(3) We would expect that, if in the event that banks cannot be saved, we want an orderly exit. That would protect the depositors and the shareholders.
(4) And we will also consider government ownership as an interim arrangement depending on the time we are able to get buyers. So these are all options under consideration. ]

Someone please enlighten me on the main problems here.

yawmee:
Oh My GOD!!
So you don't see Sanusi's actions as a way to fester corruption in the country? Gees!
There hasn't been any form of transparency in the selection of the replaced CEOs. Who will these CEO's report to? Sanusi? You should be worried when you concentrate that much power in the hands of a single man and not instituition. Now he is talking about nationalising the banks? I thought less government= more efficiency.

Presently, the man has no clear exit strategy and that is my fear.

Now someone is talking sensibly - the "Northern agenda" talk just galls me. The CEOs were appointed by someone who had the power to appoint them at a time the banks could not have been left without CEOs. They will report to their boards, no Sanusi. To the best of my knowledge, the man says he is not nationalising any bank. What do you mean by the exit strategy line?

Yes, just permutations!

We have been told that the Vanguard story was not original. It was authored by a group determined to keep Soludo in office and sent to various media houses but was published by only Vanguard. Anyway those who allege Northern conspiracy will have to adduce proof to convince me. We all know there is a "North-South dichotomy", but we have to make assessments and draw conclusions based on facts. First a close friend told me Northerners will be appointed CEOs. When that did not materialise he told me to wait till the boards were reconstituted. Now some have been and hardly are there any Northerners. If SLS's agenda is a Northern takeover, where are the parameters for the takeover? How many northerners have the money to buy banks, anyway? Since when did Northerners start banking? Everyone talks about corruption in Nigeria, but the moment someone does something about it, this is all you hear - "selective justice", "Northern agenda", etc. Anyway, I am here, watching,

[quote author=ella.b link=topic=257375.msg4659923#msg4659923 date=1254582552]i went tru WIKIPEDIA jus now and tried 2 read bout 'mientras haya vidas'.i read d ril names of all d actors and actresses in it.
romina's real name was romina.
bt wat really suprised me was dat ignacio(d doctor who liks maria and talks as if hot yam dey hin mouth) has a 9ja name."chinedu ekeh".
i know u ll all tink its a lie bt Dats wat i saw.can sum1 find out if its true.[/quote]Ignacio's real name is Ari Telch. He is a Mexican actor specialising in stage and theatre drama. Think he's not beautiful? Well, he's married to a model!

shezy:
have you seen the official website?
they have Elisa and rodrigo's picture very bold there
I think Elisa will finally marry Rodrigo because on the website, i saw final beside the picture though in Spanish

Keep guessing, sis. That is the fun of watching a telenovella - you keep guessing. Don't let someone tell you the end and spoil it for you!

It's time one was produced. Please raise it at the next WIN or FIDA or Beijing meeting.

There is one problem I have with this drama - the way the director is protecting Gail. I understand WHY - Gail needs to remain active and doing evil to keep the story going. What I disagree with is HOW. Remember that when Alejandro called Gail the day he was attacked at the Cemetary, Gail asked him if he was alright and Alejandro said "Why do you ask if I am alright?" Remember, too, that when Paula went to see Alejandro she told him she knew who tried to kill him and his father, the enemy he was sleeping with, and offered him a file which contained all the info. Alejandro dismissed her but later went to her place and was handed THE FILE. How come shortly afterwards those two - Alejandro and Paula - still weren't any the wiser? Alejandro later told Hector that the person who hasn't changed, who is pretending, is Gail. How come both he and Hector carry on shortly afterwards like they trust Gail fully? Hector is no fool - I don't know of any billionaire who is. How come he doesn't surreptitiously investigate Gail?
Okay, then Gail's behaviour yesterday. How come Alejandro doesn't realise it has been Gail along, considering how he behaved like a housewife with a man under her bed and the way he was seated there with a pillow in his hands? And most importantly, since Naeto recognises Gail why did he not mention his name, but he is saying "him, him, him" and "there is a new Sherrif in town"?
Let's see what happens next - I believe the "accident" Gail ordered will fail - maybe Paula will ask everyone to use another vehicle or something - that girl is smart, besides that sort of intervention by a major character will do the story much more good than a deux ex machina, like, say, the truck that was sent to crush them having a burst tire or running out of fuel. And then what will happen? Gail will be left alone again to continue his evil deeds.
I find all this Gail business a tad trashy, but this is still a great story. And it will remain a great story as long the SUSPENSE element remains. Suspense is what keeps you reading a novel, same goes here. I hope, therefore, that Dreamara and the other fellow will hold fire a little and stop these revelations, or did someone call them 'prophecies' so we can can all enjoy watching the story as well as speculating in this forum a bit.

I find this post as interesting as it is relevant.
I used to be a Bible-spouting Christian, belonging to a group that insists it is the genuine article as far as Christianity goes, and believing most of the things KunleOsbob believes. One day something happened - pure accident - that made me pause to re-examine a particular dogma. I found I had been lied to all my life! (Much like Einstein told us about about his coming upon scientific facts which made him realise that the state was lying to the youth by presenting the Adam fable as the true story of the beginning of man.) My findings made to be reaxamine everything, that is, my whole relationship with God and men who exercised so much influence in my life because they claim devine appointment. I found that the core of what I had held as sacred since birth was nothing but an empty shell. I found that what I thought was a bridge between God and man was nothing but some terrestrial bridge. I was devastated. It was the first time I had subjected by beliefs to serious scrutiny and it fell flat like the wall of Jericho.
My conclusion today is that religion is an empty shell. I find Humanism to be far superior. Yes, you can be good to your fellow man for the sake of being good rather than to please God. And, yes, I now agree with Freud that the idea of a big daddy up there who will come and solve my problems for me is a childlike fancy.
But nothing I have said here should be taken to be gospel. These are private views which I do not intend to package for export or propagation. The only thing I have against most religious folk is that they believe blindly. Those who can adduce a sound basis for their beliefs, I respect.

I believe God does not intervene in human affairs because I have take a closer look at things and found this to be so. I strongly suspect that God created the world in the beginning, put perfect laws in place to govern it, and left it - not because he does not care but because the laws are sufficient to govern it. In the physical realm the world governed by the laws described in physics. In the spiritual realm it is governed by what they call Karma in the East.
When you die, you come back. The life you live now will likely determine the amount of difficulties you will face in the next life. If you were born into circumstances that afforded you a lot of comfort and happiness, it is likely because you deserve it. Same goes for those who experience suffering. If you close your palms to your fellow man, you may have nothing in your next life. If you share your last, you will have abundance so that you can continue the good work. If you are wicked, you will come back where you will suffer much difficulties so as to learn power is not your sole right. Many, on learning the truth about reincarnation, realise that their life encounters may be the result of Karma, accept it and try to move on - this is known as "meeting your Karma".
But the above should not be taken too literally to mean that someone who is born into wealth is being rewarded and someone who is born poor, blind or sickly is being punished. Sometimes it is all meant to teach you a lesson. It may be that you are poor and you think all rich people are wicked. You may be born rich to show you that is not so and to give you the chance to use money well. For example, I have a friend who has never tasted alcohol in his life. He said he had an uncle whose life was ruined by alcohol. Now, it is possible he was a drunk in his last incarnation and was sent there so he may learn early on in life.
My observation is that prayer changes nothing, except, sometimes, the person praying. God does not intervene. Religious people can afford to wicked to their fellow man because they claim to love God whom they can't see. If only they know that all God requires is that they love their fellow man.
This makes sense TO ME much more than the heaven taught by the Abrahamic faiths.

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