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forgiveness:
See how even Port Harcourt is better than Mombasa not to talk of Abuja.

What's that now? Reason I call you stupid.

Ibrahimanis:
what about them? Abuja has adequate water supply, and unlike most parts of Nigeria enjoys steady electricity.

So you focus on Abuja alone while the rest of Nigeria is crap yet Abuja still has slums?

samsobo24:
No wonder Kenya remains in the dust.
Abuja a city that was planned few years ago to be an administrative capital is still 10 times more developed than Nairobi.
Just see its Roads modern infrastructure its architecture its Estates, its developed luxury suburbs.

Its true Kenyan whites have deluded you.

Think of the centenary city that will be bigger than all Kenyan slun

You're out of your mind.

genieluv:
****** Neither are Yemi Alade and Tiwa Savage even close to Nigerian women endowment standards. We just used them as comparison because they were the most famous Nigerian women just as Lupita is the most famous Kenyan woman. You get it?

Otherwise, when you talk about the likes of Corazon Kwamboka, we talk about the likes of Omotola, Didi Ekanem, Omo Butty, Tolu Oniru, Anita Joseph and many more. @ NairobiWalker

Check out this Kenyan senator.

tlann:
maybe abuja beats mombasa in population nothing else and how is abuja better than mombasa

I still doubt, Mombasa County had a population of 915k in 2009, Mombasa Metro extends beyond Mombasa County and will be over 1.2M in 2009. Currently Mombasa Metro has at least 1.6M people. It's only that Mombasa is compact and high density hence smaller in Area.

Ibrahimanis:
Because a city is hustling and beehive of activities does not mean it's better than a city that is calm and serene. If so then Mombasa is better than Washington because Washington have been described as soulless sometimes.

The only thing I will concede is Mombasa has more high rise buildings than Abuja. But it's more difficult to judge seeing that Abuja is five times bigger than Mombasa.

Only that Abuja is not serene, it's a cold soulless concrete jungle

rvp20183:
That Nigeria for you.Its been start n stop for digital migration.Youd think they own DStv.Kenya migration was a success story..the sector grew tremendously post migration.

They brag about DSTV as if it's Nigerian.

rvp20183:
Mombasa beat Abuja anytime
Mombasa CBD.
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You can't compare a city with culture with a soulless city like Abuja.

nemesis8u:
"China took the world unaware after the Mao revolution. "

"Don't try me on history, this is my field. "

Arent these 2 statements contradicting each other .


" How China brought 800 million people out of poverty within a few decades is still a shock to the western world. "

Again I can't help noticing the contradiction

Considering then the western companies were setting up thousands of industries in China every year with the blessings of the western governments.

Most of her comments are laughable. She wants to have strong opinions on things she doesn't understand.

rvp20183:
First migrate to digital tv.Youre still analog and you're talking a few Nigerians who can afford DStv and other such sat providers.We moved to digital spectrum about 5yrs ago and every Kenya with TV get far more content than Nigerian.

You mean they've still not migrated to Digital? The way they boast here as pioneers of TV?

genieluv:
Agbani Darego's achievement is one in a million. Till date, only one other black African woman winning the miss universe more than a decade later has achieved that.
****** I am comparing Agbani and Mandela is the sense that they both broke a 'jinx'. They blazed a trail. I am not comparing both of them in the real sense of it. That of Mandela was really only felt in South Africa however that of Agbani was felt by hundreds of millions of Black women all over the world, from Africa to America to the Caribbean.

You're making a fool of yourself. I even won't respond to that.

Says the same person who wanted to claim that all of Ethiopia are cushitic, ignoring the tremendous semetic mix in the pool.

Yes they are few but not as few as 2%.
You said 98% earlier and now that you were exposed, you changed to a more subtly 'range of 98%'.
You guys just think you are smart when you aren't!

You can really misuse the word expose, what exactly did you expose here? You thought a half of Ethiopia don't have the Ethiopian look

I am not narrowing down! Horn African women have the faces just like Northern Nigerian women, but they don't have the bodies like other Nigerian women !
~~~~ There are about a hundred million northern Nigerian women, same population as all of Ethiopia. How then is that narrowing down? If 50% of a people is not close to the average definition of those people, then I wonder what is!

***** East Africa alone cannot match Nigeria in diversity of women! (Only East Africa and Horn Africa combined will do the trick!)

You seem not to understand diversity when you divide your country into two and think that's diversity.

Because, We have tens of millions of Nigerian women with great bodies just as we also have tens of millions of those with that amazing face![quote].....and hundreds of millions with awful bodies.
[quote]Horn African women do not have Bantu features and East African women have far fewer cushitic women faces to compare our 50 million northern Nigerian women.

Fortunately for us, we don't have to depend on the Cushite gene to have a pool of beautiful women. When I was talking about hourglass figures, I wasn't talking about cushites.

TMKsouth:
Not true. DSTV has regional channels. Most of your content is limited to West Africa. Go ask EbonyLife TV (big flop in Southern & East Africa),they were sent packing bck to 9ja. I suspect same will happen with this new NTA. Most definitely worst News channel on the planet.

naijalander:
She's not wearing make up on the left pic. Jeez, that was deliberate. When was the last time you saw Victoria Kimani or Vera Sidika without makeup?

.....and see how she looks.

Who talked about Vera? I posted a photo of a woman on the beach, you're talking about make-up. Makeup on the beach?

naijalander:
B!tch nigga pick someone who's not using makeup

I posted a girl on the beach and you're talking about make-up? Makeup on the beach? Meanwhile you've posted a photo of Chidimna on full make-up.

naijalander:
NairobiWalker can't find finer girls in Kenya. It's ok, we understand.

I already responded, I'm waiting for the next. It's you who posted Chidimna and went missing.

genieluv:
No East African or even Southern or Central African nation has a lingua franca dominant in it's country that isn't the native language of the ethnic majority. (except Horn African nations like Ethiopia).

Swahili is native to Africa.

**** Widely used lingua francas have never been an African thing throughout history, not especially East and Southern Africa where there was no wide travelling and trade amongst the local tribes (not until the Arabs arrived at the coasts).

~~~ So, believing an African language lingua franca would have emerged besides Swahili which would have had as much influence as Swahili is nothing but wishful thinking.

Why are you arguing over an alternate timeline? Swahili happened, you can't unhappen it. Sorry siz.

Empires are another reason besides trade for the spread of lingua francas and we all know East Africa (outside horn africa) never had any empires or widely propagated cultures.

Buganda, Wanga, Busoga etc were empires.

**** So, you guys should continually be grateful to the Arabs for giving you and helping you mobilize the best thing you could ever be proud of

Why should we be grateful to them? We traded with them. We both benefited. Why should we be grateful?

Hausa incorporated Arabic words into their language because of islam. They did it through the Koran and not through Arab contact. The original Hausa words for every arabic used word in Hausa language are still intact and also used. Otherwise, We never had contact with Arabs.

What are you even saying now? Swahili too incorporated Arabic words due to Islam. In fact most Arabic words in Kiswahili are about religion.

***** I'm not trying to discredit swahili, just trying to point out the hypocrisy of you guys trying to discredit Nigerian pidgin while you take pride in Swahili which would never have existed without the Arabs who helped you create and mobilize the language among yourselves.

Of course you are. Nobody in their right mind can compare Swahili to Pidgin. Hausa, yes, makes sense but pidgin, No. Pidgin is simply corrupted English. It would be a whole different thing if Hausa or Igbo borrowed words from English.

genieluv:
Pre world war 11 era, people only saw potentials in China due to their population, but if you talk of technological advancement or politics or anything else, then you are very wrong! Some decades ago, China had so much poverty like Africa today and they weren't a force to reckon with on the world level in any way. Their Japanese neighbours treated them as rags and subhumans.
**** China took the world unaware after the Mao revolution. Don't try me on history, this is my field. How China brought 800 million people out of poverty within a few decades is still a shock to the western world.

China had poverty, it still has poverty, but it was well run. A sane economist could tell it was a superpower in the making. Look at Nigeria, that country is run like a dumpsite. You've been the biggest producer of oil in Africa for over 50 years now, what do you have to show for it? Thinking Nigeria could ever be a superpower is just stupid. Maybe in 2000 years which I doubt if Nigeria will exist as a country - maybe we might have Africa as a country. .

Trust me, the feeling is mutual. I used to see Kenya as a country's development to question Nigeria's current state, till I discovered the superficial and fake nature of Kenya's development. This makes me feel Nigeria is really trying.

Unfortunately statistics say otherwise. We are not the ones claiming to be a superpower anyway.

Bro, we Africans are truly hard working. We just have a very corrupt and anti-people's government system.
If you tell me East Asians are hardworking, I believe you, not present day westernerns. Present day westernerns are just very smart and very privileged to reap off the exploits and spoils their parents accumulated.

Trust me we are not. I used to think so too. Have you been to Europe? Africans are busy but we are not productive. In European companies, you see work being done, you see deadlines being met. In Africa, too much staff doing the same thing and nothing seems to be moving. In offices, people spend more time online like you're doing than working. This is the reason I left office and went to work in the field. You know why Europe pays high salaries? Because when they employ you, the make sure you're productive. African companies have too many workers whose input you don't see. You'll see an African so busy but his productivity is very low.

****** I don't know about Kenyans, but Nigerians who perform average here outcompete westernerns in their various fields of endeavours in their countries.
Every Nigerian who arrives the west end up making great wealth within a period of time.

So where are the results?

I remember you telling me Kenyans never critique Kenya. Interestingly since then you've been praising Nigeria even when it's obvious that you suck. You claim you perform, where are the results?

genieluv:
And who said a transgender cannot look beautiful? There are men who look naturally more beautiful than women and there are ugly looking women who get a surgery and look more beautiful afterwards.
****** So, I don't see how being a transgender disqualifies beauty for being a criteria for pageants.

Who said it does? I was simply explaining to you why a single Miss world doesn't make Nigeria the beauty capital of Africa.

Nigerians talk about Agbani Darego because she was a trailblazer. It's just like saying Americans shouldn't talk about Obama or South Africans should talk about Mandela.
**** The world never imagined a black woman would be considered beautiful. She broke a barrier in the minds of hundreds of millions of Black women all over the world, making them know they could feel beautiful too , after Centuries of colonization and slavery had made generations of Black women including yours and my mothers mothers feel inferior before western women on beauty levels.
You don't just try to downplay a great feat like this on the grounds of your personal insecurities/jealousy.

There's no downplaying, it's just that you guys overdo it like it's never-seen achievement. See you're comparing her to Mandela now. . It's just stupid.

No, I don't, why don't you educate me? Smh

You shouldn't talk about it if you don't.

This is not true. Are you trying to say all the Nilotic tribes of Ethiopia dominating Gambela, Benishangul-Gumuz and parts of Southern people and nationalities regions are just 2 million people?

They're very few in number. I told you Cushites population in Ethiopia is in the range of 98%

~~~ Even if we go by your assertions, are we going to act as if the great semitic mix by pre-islamic Yemeni arabs never happened in Northern Ethiopia, to the extent that Amharas and Tigrays have been speaking a semitic language?
See who is asking me if I know the meaning of Habesha
Habeshas (Amharas, Tigrays etc) on average have 25- 30% Arab blood (proven by various DNA tests).

Oromos are also equally beautiful and so are Somalis so what's your point?

Can you tell us the minorities we pick when doing comparisons? There are about 100 million Southern Nigerians and 100 million northern Nigerians, who then are the minorities we pick ?
***** There are more than 40 million Hausa-fulani women in Nigeria, then you add the Shuwa arabs. Then add other northerners who look like them and those who do not look like them but have mixed with them and now look like them.

When I look at BBC documentaries about Kano, I see ordinary looking people. Nothing special. I don't know why you're making a big deal about them.

>>>>> I thought you wanted to say yes 'Habesha women are prettier than Nigerian hausa-fulani and other northern women', then watch me as I bombard this thread with pictures as I challenge you to a picture contest.

Stop narrowing down just to make Nigeria look good. The average Ethiopian woman is way more beautiful than the average Nigerian woman.

¤¤¤¤ Nigeria is the spice of Africa. We have every flavour of women. You want the real thick African woman?Yoruba and other southern/central women are there to give you a run! You want the Arab looking kind of round faces? Hausa-fulani and other northern/central women are there.

Most African countries have those flavors, it just happens that Nigerian flavor has nothing on the East African flavour. (Kenya, Uganda, Tanzania, Burundi) and the Horn flavour (Ethiopia, Somalia, Djibouti, Eritrea.

genieluv:
Beauty, Elegance, Grace, Charisma, Body and Intelligence are among the factors used to judge a beauty queen. And all of these were found in the Nigerian lady.

Yeah, it was not solely on beauty. Thank you. What I was telling you is, a single Miss World doesn't make you the most beautiful women in the world. For heaven's sake a transgender is on way to win a beauty pageant. The fact that every Nigerian speaks of this woman from 2001 tells the state of beauty in that country.

You can't take somebody like Lupita there and expect her to win no matter how intelligent or graceful she is.

Your beauty queen (who even knows her name ) wouldn't win an Oscar either. This Lupita you keep dissing won the most beautiful woman in the world award in 2014. Not 2001. If we were like Nigerians we would be quoting that 50 years from now.

***** Here is my problem with your hypocrisy. You judge the Entire Ethiopia based on Habesha women but you judge the entire Nigeria based on Southern Nigerian women?
Yes!, Nigerian Hausa, Fulani, Shuwa Arab and other Northern Nigerian women can give Ethiopian Habesha women a run for their money when it comes to facial beauty!

1. Do you even know the meaning of Habesha?

2. 98% of Ethiopians are cushites and they're all gorgeous. So what are you talking about?

3. I'm talking of the average Nigerian. The average Nigerian is what I described. Why do you people love picking the tiny minorities that are doing well in particular field when comparing Nigeria yet pic the whole or the worst for other countries? Economically, you want us to compare southern Nigeria to the whole of Kenya, in beauty, you choose Northern Nigeria again to the whole of Kenya.

Do you want me to link you back to the picture contest of Nigerian/Kenyan women we embarked on in the past? I'm not sure you were the Kenyan involved. Just say yes![/quote,]
I remember very well, you posted your beauties and we posted ours then now you're saying you won. Who made you the winner? Who was the judge? Stop being like forgiveness.



[quote]***** How can someone say Lupita is more endowed than Yemi Alade or Tiwa Savage? We watched 12 years of a slave when Lupita was stripped naked and flogged. Should we go and bring the scene and past it here comparing them with music videos of Tiwa Savage & Yemi Alade? Don't make us take this to the next level by serious picture and video posting o!

Lupita is not even anywhere close to endowed by Kenyan standards. She however has that hourglass shape. If you want to see endowed women in Kenya ask me and I'll give you photos.

2. If Yemi Alade and Tiwa Savage are the definition of endowed in Nigeria then I pity you.

You can tell me Corazon Kwamboka is more endowed, not Lupitia.

Of course Corazon is more endowed than Lupita. I told you in terms of endowment, Lupita is below the Kenyan average.

***** Same Corazon that denigrated all Black African men before her white boyfriend. Highly buttressing the inability of Kenyan men to handle a real African woman.

Now, that's the problem with you Nigerians, you start a topic, you realize you can't handle it, you jump to the next. Are we talking of bodies or whoever those women date? Is Chimamanda Adichie married to a black man? Does it mean Nigerian men can't handia real African woman? Some of your arguments are just absurd.

Perhaps you haven't seen this thread?
https://www.nairaland.com/3772641/loyal-servant-life-kenyan-lady

As usual, Nigerians digging negative stories about Kenya and filling them on their social media. No wonder you guys have some interesting stereotypes about other Africans. Once more, stop drifting from the main topic.

No Nigerian woman can dare such when we have so many Nigerian men to treat us right and spoil us better than other men.

Just because we don't go digging about Nigerian women online doesn't mean they don't date white men. I gave you Chimamanda for instance. Remember Europe is full of Nigerian women prostituting. Once again, you're arguing out of anger instead of facts. That's why you keep drifting and attacking personal life's of Kenyan women that I mentione. Maybe you think I wouldn't find negative stories about Tiwa if I dug.

Which other group of women desire Kenyan men and are obsessed with them. I'd like to know.

Which other group? We don't care. We just live our lives. The woman you fall in love with is the woman you marry. We don't have low self esteem like Nigerians trying to prove a point. Dude lives like a dog but goes into a club and throws away his few coins to women just to make some stupid point.

**** Kenyan men are very local and pretty much do not see beyond their localities. Same with most East & Southern African men.

What do you mean by local? You've gotten so angry you don't even know what you're speaking about.

How many Kenyan men marry Habesha women? Few of course, in spite of how much you idolize them. I can bet Habesha women marry more Nigerian men even though you are next door neighbours.

Like I said, unlike your men, we are not in competition. We don't idolize anyone. Do we have to marry Habesha women to prove a point? No. Would I marry a Habesha woman? I don't choose, as long as a woman is beautiful and smart.

Anyway, I would love to know, you boast how your men marry other Africans yet say your women don't marry other African. Is it because your men hate you so much they have to throw their nets outside or you're just undesirable to other African men?

Can you show me 10 Kenyan + Habesha marriages of note? (Pls don't show me those of Oromo Kenyan and Oromo Ethiopian or Somali Kenyan/ Somali ethiopian. I mean pure Kenyan Bantu/Nilotes and Habesha women).*****

What's wrong with this woman.
Do we have to marry Habesha women to prove a point? Why are you so full of inferiority complex? How did Habesha even get into this discussion?

~~~It's so surprising that the best and biggest entertainer in Kenya had to settle for a Nigerian girl. This buttresses my point along. Nigerian women can only look the way of extremely enlightened and wealthy men in other parts of Africa. It's so good that the everyday Kenyan man doesn't think of us, cos we are way above their league. We can only manage the best of the best Kenyan men

It seems that was an extremely big honour to you, Bien marrying a Nigerian girl. You can't stop quoting him. It's understandable though, your women are not known to date celebrities outside Nigeria, Nigerian men don't even want them.

It's also interesting how you claim Nigerian women view other African men as not good enough then celebrate when a Nigerian woman dates a Kenyan man. It confirms what I said, you only don't date outside because of lack of opportunity.

Btw, Bien took the cream of Nigerian women. She looks gorgeous in comparison to the average Nigerian celebrity.

Ibrahimanis:
No HDI measures human development like lifespan, illiteracy access to health care e.t.c not economic wealth. Qatar is richer than the United States but US ranks high on HDI. In short hdi measures the quality of life, you can be worth 50,000 in Qatar but a person worth 10,000 will have a better life.

So how can you call yourself wealthy when your standard of living is low?

The reason Qatar's HDI is low is because they've many poor immigrants living there. 88% of Qatar population is immigrants.

genieluv:
Change is instantaneous. Tell anyone China would be a world power some decades ago and it would unbelievable.
**** They started the reformations few decades ago and voila, here they are. So, you saying even in a 1000 years Nigeria cannot wield so much influence shows you are not in touch with history.

Trust me, people started viewing China as a possible super power centuries ago. Just like India. But Nigeria? Nah!

First, you may have the largest population in Africa but still there are many countries ahead of you that are doing extremely better than you. For a country with your population to be a superpower, it must be run extremely well. However, Nigeria is one of the worst run countries in the world. We love to see Kenya as poorly run but when we look at Nigeria, we feel like we aren't so badly off.

Two, you love seeing yourself as hardworking but you'll never know the definition of hardworking until you visit countries such as Japan or Westen Europe. The problem with Africans is we think being busy is being hardworking. You walk into African cities and see everyone on the move hurrying and you think they're working but look at their productivity - you can't compare to Europe. Go to an African office, too many staff but you'll sit the whole day waiting for something as simple a signature. Meanwhile you'll see workers just there drinking tea, chatting and on Facebook all through.

Ibrahimanis:
Anybody that says Nigeria is the richest country in Africa doesn't know the basics of economics. GDP per capita is the acceptable method use in ranking how rich a country is and Nigeria ranks 15 or 16 on that index.

Still above Kenya

You don't know the basics either. GDP per capita alone doesn't measure the wealth of a country. We also have something called HDI which is a much better method.

naijalander:
Fine girl 1

Why are you avoiding to post the body though? Scared of loosing? Anyway, here goes Kenya.

genieluv:
.....

Please, edit your post appropriately so that I can quote it and respond.

naijalander:
I digress on the feminism issue.

oya drop pictures of Kenyan babes, I'll drop pictures of Naija babes finer than them.

Nigerian women are fine af! all your men know that, why lie?

Drop one per post and I'll respond.

Ibrahimanis:
And also how you guys are quick to disrepute that Nigeria is Africa's largest economy but quick to agree it has the largest number poor people. it can go both ways.

Nobody has denied Nigeria as Africa's largest economy. What we disagree is Nigeria being the richest country in Africa. There's a difference - most of you Nigerians don't seem to understand the difference.

genieluv:
Ok.

~~~ You seem to have omitted my last 2 paragraphs again On Kisumu or the local politics of Nairobi.

Nairobi is cosmopolitan

The governor is a Kamba
The senator is a Luhya
The deputy governor was Kikuyu but he resigned.
Nairobi has MPs from Luhya, Kikuyu, Luo, Kamba, Kalenjin, Kisii, Somali communities. Anyone can become a politician in Nairobi. There's no particular dominant community in Nairobi's politics. Last parliament there was an Indian MP too and we've had white politicians winning.

Kisumu the dominant Language is Kiswahili followed by Luo.

naijalander:
Beauty includes brains. Just because she's a newscaster doesn't make her anymore intelligent, she just needs to look good and know how to read from the teleprompter. Vera Sidika is as fake as they come, she obviously doesn't have the type of money she shows her gullible followers (most of them Kenyans) on IG.

And of course you consider the movement giving women their freedom BS, thank you for proving my point about how backward thinking Kenyan men are.

Dude, we are talking about physical beauty. You're just complicating it for the sake of arguments. I don't even see the kind of brains you keep insisting on Nigerian women and you're in no position to call those women I posted stupid either.

Feminism doesn't give women freedom. Our women were never prisoners and will never be prisoners. Feminism just exploits people's emotions for the benefit of a few and creates an unnecessary imbalance in life and an unnecessary gender war.

tlann:
i just learnt that Burundi's economy is equal to kiambu county economy

genieluv:
Nigerians are judged to be so poor by western statisticians who just cannot comprehend how people survive in rural northern Nigeria without spending cash.

*****Otherwise, Nigeria definitely has a far higher percentage (not just population) of the richest black Africans.

It's the same statisticians for Kenya right? Is it interesting how you're the first ones to rub into our faces how these statisticians rank your GDP as the largest in Africa yet disown them when they tell you that you have the largest poor population in Africa? . Please, don't make me call you a hypocrite again dear.

Actually, the culture of spoiling women makes men richer. Let me tell you how.
In Nigeria, if you compare let's say, the Igbos and we middlebelters, the Igbos are far richer than us. This is because they have a very materialistic society which causes their men to work more harder and smarter.
***** In many parts of Igbo land, you must spend millions of Naira just to marry a wife (pay her brideprice). This culture drives many young Igbo guys to make serious money from an early age.

Please just stop. . I understand you're a direct beneficiary but of this spoiling so you'd try to encourage some men with low self esteem to do it but your comparisons are just stupid. You mean there's no other difference between you and Igbos pertaining natural resources, work culture, history etc that you have to decide Igbos are richer than you because of spoiling their women? Have you been to Germany or Netherlands or Scandinavia? In those countries, even a simple thing such as a date is not a man's responsibility but they split the bill and guess what, the average person from those countries is like 25 times richer than the average Igbo man. I hope their spoiling of women isn't working miracles like you think.

See, I told you there's nothing wrong with treating your woman right but there's a thin line between treating your woman right and foolishness.

Let me clear some things for you. Most Nigerians you see living such lives in Kenya may have big mansions and projects back in their hometowns. They even do such here in Nigeria sometimes.
Unless those guys are into internet fraud, then that is their way.
***** They may not be interested in living large in Kenya cos they know they are only there for the fraud and nothing else. They're not interested in establishing their lives there.
Fraudulent money keeps coming in, in the minds of those Nigerians, so they spend it stupidly.

Lady, I know somebody who owns a mansion when I see one. See, there are some pretty well off Nigerians here who rent nice apartments and live a good life and nobody would doubt they have mansions back home but telling me somebody who shares a bedsitter with 5 other men and came here shortly but when the Visa expired he couldn't afford an air ticket back home thus resorted to 'hustling' has a mansion at home is just stupid. Nobody would build a mansion back in Nigeria and come here and live worse than a college student whose village fundraised to pay his school fees.

Materialism is one of the reasons Southern Nigeria is far richer and more progressive than Northern Nigeria.
**** It is one of the reasons capitalist outcompete socialists and also one of the reasons Americans outcompete Europe.

It has pros and cons.

Many women will support materialism because it works to their advantage. 99.9% of the time, a materialistic relationship involves a man giving and a woman receiving. However, there's nothing good comes out of materialism. There are many reasons Southern Nigeria is richer than Northern Nigeria but I can assure you materialism is not one of them. It's just that a richer society doesn't always have the better culture than a poorer society. I know several men, including my uncle, who got nice jobs at a very young age but never made progress in life because they were busy spoiling women and the society pushed by young women was busy convincing them how real men spoil women and how it's ungentlemanly not to spoil a woman.

naijalander:
really half of them make money from selling sex, what real value do they bring to your society.

Some of them like Vera Sidika made money from sex - by fvcking your foolish Naija guys. She's now richer than them. Others like Rubadiri, Mwanyigha, Msalame are respectable media personalities. We However were not talking about how they made their money, we are talking about looks and so far, all of them are beautiful.

Nigeria has the most forward thinking women on the continent. Number Feminist on earth - Chimamanda Adichie.

So because a Nigerian feminist with some weird views said Nigerian women are the most forward thinking we should go on our knees and worship them? For the record, I consider feminism to be bullshit - you can now deduce the effect of quoting some feminist has to my views on the subject.

Tiwa we know is a successful award winning musician, Yemi Alade too.

Your comparing them to newscasters that are paid to wear make up to tell news they know nothing about, abeg shift.

Is beauty by a$$ alone?

Unfortunately, we are talking about beauty. Stop mixing issues, if you want us to talk about success the let's make it a different topic. Thank you.

Ibrahimanis:
gdp per capita (not GDP ALONE) is the international approved metric on how to calculate how wealthy a country, and Nigeria ranks above Kenya, though not by much

Remember 5 years ago your GDP per capita was three times ours, right now it's negligibly higher. What does that tell you?