Ojuntana: Exactly!! But it's our reality not so? What exactly gave birth to emilokan? How did Sharia creep into some states? Why should wearing hijab or not wearing become an issue? It's our humanity and our identity. If we really do not care about such things, then what region produces a president should not be a part of our politics to begin with. The truth is Christians are the most apolitical all over the world. May I ask, If a Christian-Christian ticket were to emerge on the major platforms, will the Muslims take it lightly
That's the point; "Some Muslims will not take it that way" ..those are the Fanatics I was talking about.. But does that define all Muslims? Or real Muslims?..No! Because that's not true. Like I said,in my state 'Ondo state,we do not see it that way... even though some fanatics from all sides are trying to stock it in. Because we believes that 'Humanity/Tribe suparceed all Religion'. Religion should be a personal commitment not the other way round.
This is the Truth: If we continue this part, we'll never get out of it. We'll continue in Racism, Tribe, Gender, Languages and many more. .. even in the Family.. And it will have no limit.
Even Our Creator self do not made it so! HE MADE US TO UNDERSTAND OURSELVES SO WE CAN 'LIVE WELL' AMONG OURSELVES.
And that's the reason He gives us Brain in the first place. The ability to comprehend.
Shattuck: it's very naive for you to compare both, at least when we complain we don't go about killing people to advance our belief, what we are asking for is fairness, not an advantage, I like the Yoruba people both Muslims and Christians because they do not allow religion bother them that much, but the major folks who play this religious card are the northern Muslims.
See, Tinubu is a Yoruba man. A Muslim. Those of us supporting him are not doing so because he is a Muslim. We're doing so because he had made alot of sacrifice and contribution politically. Now if Tinubu (whose wife is a Christian) is now contesting,do you expect me to be doing the Muslim-Muslim thing you guys do just because he's picking a vise from the North? I wouldn't. Because we do not clamour for those things in the politics we do in our states. We do not roll that way!
The North has a problem. But that problem will not define how the rest of us should think.
Ojuntana: What are you saying about Kaduna, Sokoto Kano and the rest. Has anyone said those core Muslim states shouldn't have Muslim-Muslim ticket? Even plateau in the North and Benue have Christian-Christian. It's a reflection of the demographics. But you see that presidency eehn, how do you justify Muslim-Muslim for a country with almost equal number of adherents of both religion. This is more so that one particular religion has become more violent towards the other one.
See,I'm a Yoruba man. A Muslim. My brain has nothing whatsoever to do with a Muslim- Muslim/Christian-Christian thing. I don't bother myself about those stuff because those stuff do not define me or us as humans. Its FAKE. Most of us use this things for our own hypocritical selfishness when even the God we claim to do it for do not made it so. We always use it to suit our own religious ego.
These things only breed problems. Unending problem.
joyandfaith: I don't wish to have conversation with someone under the influence of jinni. Those who are under influenced of jinni would form an opinion on someone that that never meets face to face. It is called psychotic. Visit Olore mosque in Ibadan for incarceration.
See! There's something you're not getting!
Stop fighting over issues you have no control of; Religion. You shouldn't be fighting for It.
The moment you begin to fight for/over it you'll begin to loose yourself. In no time, you'll become Boko Haram in another version. Afterall "if my god can be so Docile while you were been created 'Why should I bother!?"
We should understand Religion, not for us to be fighting over It.
So for instance now,if you're calling me Jihadist just because I'm a Muslim,then you need to call your god to do his supposed job by himself for you rather than you "Ordinary Being" disturbing yourself for something you have no control of.
Like I said before; IF YOU BELIEVE YOU CAN FIGHT FOR YOUR GOD(.. like Boko Haram members do..) THEN YOUR GOD MUST BE VERY WAEK AND WORTHLESS.
You are also a Jihadist.. Just in another Denomination.
joyandfaith: Jihadist!! Even if a Christian disciplines a Muslim student, you would declare jihad!! You are doing that because you have been brainwashed that Islam would dominate the world in this century.
joyandfaith: If it is Christian-Christian ticket in any of major political parties, MURIC and people like you would be first to declare Jihad. Hypocrite!,
You guys complain too much! You complain about everything! Most of you are Fanatics. You're not different from members of Boko Haram.
What are you saying about Ondo,Ekiti and the rest!?
Very wicked and confused set of people claiming Godlike. Spt!
emmanuelbrown26: Whether Obi win or noose or even cum last, all I know is that history no fit forget am. D name alone just wake everybody up. D name alone dun show say time go cum wey bi say any office u enter na your pvc first before u enter. I dun dey begin dey see say somethings dey happen for a purpose, e.g.If na say Obi no dump pdp, d shape of 2023 election for no dey like dis All d same, I wish all d voters well, but mind u all,iI no wan see any beggy beggy again, bcs I dun tire to dey see beggers both online and offline.
That's one good thing about this coming Election. Very very interesting!
seguno2: Was there not a time when Muslims and Christians were not the majority here? How did they become the majority? What works did they do, and continue to do to remain the majority
We are talking about now my friend! Nobody is talking about 300years ago.
seguno2: If we know all these, then why do we allow them to do that
We!? You mean the few of us? We do not allow them na! "Majority wins the vote" is our case. At least some of us are still talking which is another form of sensitisation/education.
But you know what? The people who're suppose to do more in this regard(base on the level of their followership) are our religious Leaders (Muslims/Christmas). After all they all claimed to be God's EYE within us. Their number one duty should be to Savage/Save the people from Penury. But today, they're the NUMBER ONE FRIENDS TO OUR WICKED, GREEDY AND EVIL POLITICIANS.
THAT EXPLAINS THE REASON WE'RE HAVING PLENTY MOSQUES AND CHURCHES EVERYWHERE BUT THE COUNTRY KEEP DETERIORATING. That is not a good Sign my brother!
This issue is very Complex and Pathetic. Very very Pathetic!
There are so many dumb ones on NL and the problem is that they are boisterous and don't have a clue how low their IQ is. They actual pride themselves on being smart and would argue their unresearched & unreasoned nonsense with you with pure confidence. Not realising that the education they get in Nigeria has really destroyed them, has not developed their brains and they are really unemployable.
Many would PROUDLY demonstrate that they take their religious education indoctrination as superior to their formal education. Yes, the Christians too; not just Muslims. That speaks volumes about how poor their education is.
There are very few that go through Nigeria's education system and still come out with good mental reasoning abilities nowadays.
seguno2: Is that why 200 million Nigerians without their right senses end up choosing looters as leaders, from local government councillors and chairmen, to state lawmakers and governors, to senators and representatives as well as presidents? Is that why
Yeah! That's the reason. And the Politicians understands that. They made it so. That's why they pay little or no attention to our educational sector.
They want Nigerians to be stupid so they can continue to enslave them for their own selfish/wicked benefits.
1. Northern Christians are despised in their region and have very little influence. In fact, Dogara has control of just 3 LGAs in Bauchi State - as strong as he's touted. Tinubu will definitely lose if he tries it. If you notice, El Rufai said he would do Muslim / Muslim ticket in Kaduna, and he won. Didnt you also notice that Tinubu didn't waste time during campaign with delegates in certain regions?
2. Now, one secret that Southern people don't know, Atiku is really hated in the North. He has a reputation of a snake. He's widely abused as a homo and not a true Muslim. He's said to have been cursed to never be President by a popular Islamic Cleric. To be honest, I still don't understand the hate.
3. Tinubu will pick someone very strong from the North and he will be a Muslim. Northerners even see it as a revenge because OBJ foisted an unhealthy Yaradua that didn't really rule actively. They feel BAT might die in power or the VP does most of the heavy lifting.
By the time Tinubu calls meetings of traditional religious leaders and the big Pastors of Yorubaland e.g. Adeboye, Kumuyi and Oyedepo.... you will be shocked how the potential 60% SW votes turns to 80 or even 90! Oh I even forgot his wife is a Pastor in RCCG and not in the Senate (free to campaign). Remi will go to mega churches - Yorubas undisputably have the biggest.... and preach every Sunday.
Bloc votes from SW and a North 50/50 or even 40% from North will win it for BAT.
Politicians do their calculations well... no matter Atiku's vice, he's very unlikely to win. That's just the reality.
Tinubu is a strong politician but I doubt anyone was sure he would soundly thrash President + Vice President + Senate President + Party Chairman. Did we really expect such a wide margin?
Politicians are like sharks, they easily smell blood in the water I.e. they quickly jump to the side of a potential winner. The APC primaries was an eye-opener for many. SS will smartly fall in line, BAT might not win there but he will do better than projected. SE will be stubborn as usual and unfortunately shout marginalization later. Unfair it might seem but true.
The main election campaigns might be physically tasking for him, but he will very likely trounce Atiku. The other candidates don't matter at all; not worth mentioning.
Tinubu can only lose if he chooses Ganduje (bad reputation) or a Northern Christian. Or Yoruba/Yoruba ticket ....
PrinceOfLagos: Buhari and his cabals are strongly behind Ebele goodluck azikiwe Jonathan so I don't see him losing to Tinubu that no one truly loves except his money
Jonathan is the man
Not only Ebele. Na Elele!
You guys should stop deceiving yourselves. That's the only way you can think forward.
I remembered when i was in JS3 or thereabout, there was this Subject we used to do that was basically on Practicals. "INTRODUCTORY TECHNOLOGY" aka INTRO TECH.
There's no way you'll do "Intro Tech" for two team.. about two years.. that you will not know or understand something meaningful you can do with your Life. NO WAY!
Intro Tech go groom you to get sense even if e go be small one. But unfortunately today, Intro Tech is nowhere to be found.
seborrhic: What I know is that a candidate whose campaign motto and speech starts with saying he would continue the legacies of Buhari,his principal for 8 years and arguably the worst leader Nigeria has ever had,is a no no. No,no because it shows a man not in tune with reality and a man that doesn't grasp issues well. Osinbajo is an overhyped failure in the making. Other Southern candidates should battle it out. Also any party that gives it's ticket to a northern candidate is not just out of sync with the feelings and realities on the ground,but is digging it's grave.
I'm telling you my brother!
That's a very BIG SLAP to the face of a sensible Nigerian An insult to our FUTURE GENERATION.
wirinet: This is what I call negativism. You take a negative view of life and only tend to see obstacles and excuses for failure.
Yes things are bad, but you make it worse that it actually is. lots of people are still making it legitimately.
Please read Vincent Norman Pearl's book "The Power of Positive Thinking" to change your outlook towards life.
Many many people make it without involving in fraud. I have 2 legitimate businesses and have never been involved with fraud. My wife owns an eatery business and have never been involved with fraud.
I registered for NIN without settling anyone. All the people I know registered for NIN without bribing anyone. You would need to bribe if you want the NIN urgently and want to bypass the system.
Agreed. But if you have the time to waste and money to spend on lawyers, you might not need to bribe the police.
Why will you need to bribe CAC, when you can do all your company registration online without interacting with any CAC official.
It depends on the type of jobs and your skills or qualifications. There are some jobs that require certain skillsets and qualifications that the employers are even the ones that will bribe you to work for them.
Why will you bribe to obtain your drivers license? The reason you pay more than the official price is because agents are involved most times and because you want it done faster. The official waiting period is up to 3 months.
Yes all governments are corrupt. Anyone who is not prepared to be corrupt or corrupted should avoid government contracts.
So many people make it big without stepping a foot out of nigeria. In fact many people fail abroad and come back to Nigeria and succeeded. I know someone that did not make it in the UK after 10 years, he came back into this country and started selling okrika. Today he is worth billions in dollars.
I will agree with you to some extent.
But let me say this, I'm not talking about just to own a House,2 cars or owning some small businesses. I'm taking about a bigger aspirations. A Machant. A great Investor.
Looking at the behavior of our Banks,telecomunication industries for instance...
Interms of the CAC/Drivers license you alighted,it will interest you to know that something that's suppose to take 1 month maximum ,may take up to six months if you decide not to settle anyone. Except if you're in Lagos or Abuja I presume. .
One thing is very clear. This Attitudes in our system kills small businesses and Drive even before they mature. So how do you do it especially if you do not have any external support?
Don't forget they're other challenges like power, security etc you must face and settle on your own wich we are not talking about here.. So how do you do it?
I personally believes in Legit. Infact I detest Fraud. But how do u do it when even your government is fully into it with all their activities purpose in the system?
With the level of things happening in the Country already; "Can a Legit hustling Nigerian make it 'Big' without involving in Fraud?"
-Ordinary to register for NIN.. you'll settle (bribe). -Police.. you'll bribe -CAC...you'll bribe -Employment... you'll bribe -Driving licence.. you'll bribe -Any small government contract/matters, you'll have to bribe.
So,can it be possible to make it big in this Country as it is now without being Fraudulent? If Yes' How?
kaymart: Na by sepaking on plans? Wake up.. Consider what Buhari promised during campaign and what he did after election. Buhari promised to cleanse Nigeria off corruption, feed sch children, provide multiple jobs for the teeming youth population, build refineries, diversity the economy, provide security and was going to crush Bokoharam in maximum of 6months. Oh! He even condemned foreign medical trip for public office holders. As a matter of fact and time, he did none of that, infact he did the reverse of most if not all of what he said. So, forget talk....you still can't be gullible in this day and age. I remember the way they used to exemplify and dignify Buhari's body language and the so called "man of integrity status". Where's the integrity as at today?
Or do politicians swear oaths to become Devilish immediately after attaining power?
I agree with you. But that shouldn't be the reason why we should be hopeless don't you think?
Viking07: Lalasticlala, I am also interested in knowing why these fraudsters can't be tracked using their phone numbers? When you watch the crime channel (IDExtra) on DSTv, you'll see how these American cops track criminals with just a phone.
Why is our own case different?
Because Nigeria cops are not interested. They are busy intimidating law abiding citizens.
abobote: The earlier we realise that nothing like love, but interest the better for us. Some people thinks their wife love or married them coz of love, my brother, nothing like that. Life generally is all about interest. As a man if you are not bringing money, you are useless to that your wife. Few days ago my wife stopped talking to me, cos she felt offended over a conversation and she demands I apologise, but I don't know how to say sorry, so she stopped talking to me, after two days, I just dropped 10k on her account without any instruction, since then, she has been calling me baby, what is the money for . Bros, you can only husle to regain back your position as head of the family