₦airaland Forum

You know the interesting thing is that, this present government and their supporters don't factor all these when mouthing their non existent security successes.

shift15:
The degeneration started when some people started labelling people with divergent opinion Tanoid. Then with open display of partiality and preference for one political persuasion by moderators and even the founder of Nairaland, it put nail in the coffin. Today, you risk being insulted, called IPOB, Pig and whatever simply because you have different opinion apart from them.
It doesn't worth it for people that strive on intellectual argument and cognitive reasoning....

Gram!

TonyeBarcanista:
Nothing harmful in the tweet.

Political differences isn't synonymous to sworn enmity.

I am quite aware that APC official handle had sent a DM to PDP Official handle and even sarcastically asked the PDP Official handle to feel free to "join" APC.

The PDP replied by asking APC to mobilise their members to visit the closest PDP ward to them to obtain their PDP Membership card.

Let's stop acting like politics is a war-war affair...

IN OTHER NEWS

The mission to stop Buhari and APC at all levels in 2019 is at top gear. Nigerians across the six geopolitical zones are very much ready and determined for the task.

Which mission are you talking about.... You don't seem to be on any mission. How many times have you told Nigerians why the party you claim to belong should be voted come 2019 and not the current APC. you are not serious.

@PDP watch this guy closely. You've been warned.

This is terrible. Where is serap and other civil society organisation where are the lawyers

It's a pity

If they can't fish out and punish the offenders, they should just shut up.

prechbills1:
nairaland is not a church

Then it shouldn't also be a place to encourage sexual recklessness.

demelza:
What a mediocre life that lady is living.
So after passing out with good grades, her reward is "a financially-okay husband who provides everything for her and a child?"

And you think this is the kind of life you will wish your girl child to aspire to in a world of Angela Merkel?

Ladies,
Your worth in life is not determined by the hymen in between your legs. God's blessings do not come because of a hymen or not.
Work smart,
Be smart
Love yourself
Ignore trash
Stock up on knowledge

And you will have all these blessings and more.


@OP, Eku patriarchy o!

When we talk about sexual purity. Don't reduce it to "Hymen " for your information, God blesses sexual purity. With sexual purity, you can be smart and knowledgeable also.

Those who can't keep themselves, are not the smartest or most knowledgeable.

I repeat, God Almighty, blesses those who are determined to be sexualy pure.

laudate:
My question was a simple one. You have been preaching the gospel of virginity all over this thread, so I asked you if the muslim or traditional worshippers that are virgins were superior to the Christians, because of their virginity? Why is the question so difficult for you to understand? You also claimed that I was downplaying chastity? How? Because I refused to be judgemental, just as you are?

Too many Christians pretend and lie to themselves and in doing so, they lie to the world as well. I do not belong to that group. I tell it as it is, and God has helped me in that respect. Some naive, young Christian girls have made wrong choices based on this virginity matter, and ended up with the wrong spouses, because of judgemental doctrines such as your own.

They will be happy, thinking that since the so-called 'brother has not laid a finger on them, or tried to put any pressure on them, so therefore he must be a holy, bible-believing spotless character. Only for them to get married to him, and discover that the brother is something totally different under that veneer of spirituality, simply because the lady did not take time, effort or wisdom to study him well or look beyond the surface. I have seen a lot as a church worker. Let me just hold it here.....may God deliver us all.

The best advice someone ever gave me, was that if you are in a relationship, test your partner for anger. Find out how that person reacts when things go wrong, or events turn upside down. Next, find out how he/she handles money. But some naive Christian sisters who are trying to be more spiritual than their bibles, will tell you "God is in control," as if the Almighty did not bless them with brains and common sense.

This post is a way to downplay chastity. If you don't know that, then it's unfortunate. How I'm I judgemental? By standing for Chasity?.. You can't keep deceiving yourself. Who wants you to be pure, God or the devil?

We can't keep breeding Christians who don't want to please God with their bodies.

The naive Christian girls, made wrong choices because they are chaste?... The devil is a liar!

So a Christian girl automatically, can't study a potential husband, can't also check for anger issues, money management issues, etc, simply because she adopted sexual purity?... Again the devil is a liar.

So the ones with brains are the ones, jumping from one sexual partner to another, having dozens of breakup sex, doing flushing, filthy lifestyle etc... These are the ones who have "studied" their partners abi? Yet we have more marital failures among such..
Oh, you won't see it, But church workers, who probably think like you.

Again, I'm not a Muslim or traditionalist, hence can answer for them... Except those for evil manipulation, the Muslim and traditionalist respect chastity and sexual purity.


Look, this level of sexual filth, some of us want to make permissible, can't have a good ending. It's against God's design and it's the campaign of the devil.

laudate:
Why? Are you offended that I am a church worker? In fact, I have learnt a lot about reality and the facts of life more than ever, since I became a worker in church. It makes you appreciate the diversity and complexity of human beings, and makes you realise that beneath all the fine powder and fine outfits people wear to church, they are all battling with serious challenges that you cannot even imagine.

From your answers, you can then see that your judgemental manner of waving the flag of chastity/virginity needs to be balanced, as even you are unlikely to swear that you got married as a virgin...

Like I said before: "It is far more important to know your partner well before making a commitment," so that you do not end up with regrets. I have always stood for righteousness, and righteousness means far more than chastity or virginity! There are non-christians who are virgins, and even muslims or traditional worshippers who are virgins.

I've told you the truth.

I don't live in hypocrisy. All these.. " know your partner before commitment " is not the issue I'm driving at. As if you won't know the person before.

Unless, the "knowing" you are referring to is against keeping oneself sexually pure ..we are then not on the same track.

I'm neither a Muslim nor a traditional worshipper, hence can't respond from their angle..

laudate:
No sir, you are the one who is clearly using the "same old tactics of the devil used with Eve." You obviously know a lot about the devil's tactics, which is why you are citing it as an example. A lot of virgins go into marriage with wrong expectations, and unrealistic ideas or notions about marriage. When it comes to marriage, many are clueless and naive. Ask any Christian counsellor. Maybe in your church, they do not tell people the truth, but in my own church - we church workers have seen a lot.

I find it interesting, that you never answered any of the questions I asked in my last post, before you started playing the ostrich as usual. So let me ask you again:

1). So non-virgins should never get married, is that what you are saying?

2). Even within your church, how many virgins exist there?

3). What is the proportion of single virgins, to non-virgins within your church?

Tell the truth and let the devil be ashamed, because even you are unlikely to swear that you got married as a virgin...

1, non virgins will get married. That's not the issue. The church should be a place that produces chaste people irrespective of what is happening in the world. We can't make that happen, when we have people like you downplaying chastity and telling us about qualities "non virgins" have.... Haba! Shouldn't our virgins remain pure and have good character? Isn't that what will make God happy?.. Or we don't want to please God again? Rather manage the effects of disobedience?.. Can we have you as a worker preserve the church from the attack of the world and it's ungodliness?

2) Great question! I may not know, but I know God wants us to be pure and if we cannot find pure people in the Church or they are so few, it's the Devil fighting the Church. Will you stand for righteousness?

3) Same as above. I don't know. But the church of God cannot be a place where you massage, manage or remodel sexual impurity. Especially with "it doesn't matter " narrative.

I'm a strong believer and advocate of chastity.

There's nothing a non virgin can know /understand that a virgin can't know / understand except engaging in premarital sex.

This respons, is only because you claim to be a church worker.

laudate:
You know your problem, you have chosen to discard reality for some idealistic ideology, that you have chosen to preach. I am a church worker who has interacted with several christian counsellors. I have never advocated promiscuity or sexual recklessness. Check through all my posts. However, I have advocated knowing your partner well before making a commitment.

You seem to have some warped idea, that anyone who does not wave virginity or your chastity like a flag, is in support of sexual recklessness. Nothing could be further from the truth. However, I will not buy into that myth of virginity/chastity, being the guarantee of a happy or successful marriage. So non-virgins should never get married, is that what you are saying? Men are the greatest culprits who sample everything in skirts, but later turn round to start preaching chastity when it is time to marry.

A non-virgin who understands his/her partner and possesses qualities such as integrity, accountability, respect, compassion, supportive behaviour, generosity, tact, discipline, loyalty etc, will definitely have a productive and happy marriage, over a so-called virgin who does not understand her partner and lacks those qualities. A non-virgin who respects and loves his partner while believing in the sanctity of marriage, would not cheat on his/her partner .

Now, please take your sermon elsewhere, because I do not believe in flogging this subject of chastity like you have been doing incessantly in a judgemental fashion, on this thread. Refrain from quoting me, when next you want to overflog your prayer point on virginity.....

Church worker indeed...

No holy spirit filled person walking with God, not just "chuch worker " will downplay chastity with the level of brazen sexual recklessness, we see even in the Church.

How can a virgin, not possess the good qualities, you claim a non virgin can have... a virgin cannot understand his/her partner? Be loving?, be generous? be disciplined?

At some point we need to tell ourselves the truth.

The same old tactics of the devil used with Eve is still at play today.

It's a pity.

laudate:
Guy, you really need to stop exaggerating, please. Like I said before, virginity does not confer sainthood on anyone. I am not advocating promiscuity, but advocating that people should study their partners very well before making a commitment, instead of basing their decision on virginity, or lack of it.

You claim that "Most people you know who believe and practice chastity, have strong character, integrity, accountability, respect, discipline etc." Good for you. I have also met non-virgins who have strong character, integrity, accountability, respect, discipline etc. Some women have used virginity to mask their frigid nature, while some men have used it to mask their sexual dysfunction. Ask anyone who is a Christian counsellor about the kind of issues they try to resolve daily, in churches among married couples....

I repeat; Personally, I would seek for qualities such as integrity, accountability, respect, compassion, supportive behaviour, generosity, tact, discipline, loyalty etc, over and above virginity.

It is deceit to claim those who advocate Chasity, want people to base their marital decision Only on virginity.

That's crap.

Any one who trivialises or downplay chastity, in this day and age, will have no issues supporting promiscuity. In fact, how will such a person not even support promiscuity?

Marital relationships increasingly became difficult and complex, because people jettisoned chastity.

While you claim people mask their sexual weakness with Chasity, I will tell you that much more have ruined their lives through sexual recklessness, and had to finally bow to the ideals of chastity. Unfortunately, much damage have been done.

I challenge you to go back to any of those Christian counselor and ask them for the truth.

laudate:
Show me where and how virginity guarantees a good marriage or a successful union. I have seen too many women get taken in by this deceitful tale, to recycle for such stories. There are good people, and bad people. Virginity does not bestow a toga of sainthood on anyone. People should study their partners, very well. Every woman was born a virgin. But it was lost at one time or the other. Some lose it before marriage, others lose it after marriage. Personally, I would seek for qualities such as integrity, accountability, respect, compassion, supportive behaviour, generosity, tact, discipline etc, over and above virginity. I know a case of a man who married his wife as a virgin, and she ended up killing him in anger!

Late Princess Diana of England married Prince Charles as a virgin. It did not stop her from having an affair later, during her marriage.

While you know of those who married a virgin wife killing them:

I know of so many beautiful marriages where both couple married as virgins and their unions are examples of what marriages should be.

I know of many who followed that same path and also had beautiful marriages.

Most people I know who believe and practice chastity, have strong character, integrity, accountability, respect, discipline etc. Interestingly for me, I have not met any of them who falls short of such great characters, both men and women.

Personally I've not seen. Lucky me.

On the other hand, look at how the enemy of mankind punish those who don't believe and practice chastity and still give them the logic to validate their errors.

I don't need to give examples. It's everywhere but they love what's afflicting them.

laudate:
Show me where and how virginity guarantees a good marriage or a successful union. I have seen too many women get taken in by this deceitful tale, to recycle for such stories. There are good people, and bad people. Virginity does not bestow a toga of sainthood on anyone. People should study their partners, very well. Every woman was born a virgin. But it was lost at one time or the other. Some lose it before marriage, others lose it after marriage. Personally, I would seek for qualities such as integrity, accountability, respect, compassion, supportive behaviour, generosity, tact, discipline etc, over and above virginity. I know a case of a man who married his wife as a virgin, and she ended up killing him in anger!

Late Princess Diana of England married Prince Charles as a virgin. It did not stop her from having an affair later, during her marriage.

While you know of those who married a virgin wife killing him.

I know of so many beautiful marriages where both couple married as virgins and their unions are examples of what marriage should be.

I know of many who followed that same path and also had beautiful marriages.

Most people I know who believe and practice chastity, have strong character, integrity, accountability, respect, discipline etc. Interestingly for me, I have not met any of them who falls short of such great character, both men and women.

Personally I've not seen. Lucky me.

On the other hand, look at how the enemy of mankind punish those who don't believe and practice chastity and still give them the logic to validate their errors.

I don't need to give examples. It's everywhere but they they love what's afflicting them.

laudate:
You have missed the point totally. Nobody here is advocating promiscuity. What we are saying is that when looking for a marriage partner, there are far more important things to consider, instead of just basing your decision on virginity. Virginity is NOT a recipe for marital success or happiness.

You missed the point. The campaign to trivialise chastity, is negative and it's of the devil... Quote me anywhere on this.

Chastity is a trait that can also guarantee marital success. When you are looking for a marriage partner, and Chasity is one of your criteria because you believe and practice it, you will succeed in that marriage.

And please don't tell me those who are chaste don't have other good qualities because they do..

The evil of the time, is to subdue and downplay chastity, while elevating traits and qualities that many, actually do not possess.

It's unfortunate seeing people react harshly against chastity or any post / topic the encourages people to keep their virginity.

One thing I know, is that all these reactions no matter how popular they are, are not of God.

Belittling keeping virginity or chastity does not give glory to God and it's a deceitful campaign by the devil.

The new trend of tagging reasonable things like this as, RELIGION is a way by the enemy of man, to take man far away from God... When you see people using the word "religion " to make their point or defend their stance, know they are very far from God.

The devil is too smart. Just as he deceived Eve, he has deceived many.

Anyone who fornicates and commite adultery without there heart judging them, CAN NEVER VALUE A VIRGIN.

A VIRGIN MAN WILL VALUE A VIRGIN WOMAN. the only way a non virgin man will value a virgin lady, is if the man is GENUINELY BORN AGAIN.

NOTE THIS FACT.

GOD LOVES CHASTITY, THE DEVIL HATES IT.

You all have forgotten Lea sheribu?
Who has bewitched you oh foolish Nigerians.

I never heard of this group until now. Obviously one faceless, headless, meaningless groups struggling for media space.

The fact is simple. Buhari will not be president of Nigeria in 2019.

I want to buy London used Techno t400 phone

Clerverly:
Dankwambo/Soludo

And the Hausa/Fulani and The Yorubas will abandon Buhari/Osinbajo?

Deluded ipob yoot!

When will you look at things from the angel of performance

fiizznation:
People will always tell you that don't vote buhari, don't vote buhari, but then again if you ask them(wailing wailers) who they think among these elites will do better than buhari, you will see them rolling up the names of renowned looters and thieves. Smh

Buhari's performance is far below our expectations(out of 100percent, I might even score him 40percent), but as things still stand, buhari is the better option for 2019.
And this is the reality we all have to face.

Why will you reward failure. Isn't that a bad thinking.

This put paid to the penchant of safarigirl and her ilks to defend evil too quickly.

The unfortunate thing is that not much will come out of it.

Attempted rape indeed. They forced sex out of a lot of people that day.

Jubril was the person who came to Lagos. Jubril is not married to Aisha.

The bloody colloquium was all about PDP?

What a waste of time and media space.

Actually, this apology is the wrong thing. The original tweet was spot on!

Unless, you are afraid it will offend the government and their supporters .. But then you should be forthright.

Train your children in the way of God and pray for them. In our family, it's the one that oyibonized the training of their children like what the @op, is saying that had a pregnant daughter, as a teenager.

Which kind confidence are you talking about sef.. The confidence of sexual recklessness and be bold about it?. Or the one who has perfected the act of illicit sex without anyone knowing?

Abeggy.. No matter what you teach your children, if you don't lead them in the way of God, they will even have incest many times and you will never know.

What do you want to tech a child who is being bombarded with sex everywhere.. From the media to everywhere else.

Both the naive ones and the sharp ones are having sex like dogs .

It is the God in a child that makes the difference.

Just like Joseph in Egypt, it's the God in him that showed . If not he would have been having sex with the wife of his master and remained a slave.

mekaboy:
WHY EVERY CHRISTIAN MUST GET THEIR PVC

Its time for every christian to get their PVC, the message from the presidency and bokoharam is clear.We have been made to belive that bokoharam is not religious and does not target christians.

When the started attacking in the North, they only targeted churches and UN building which they believed were for christians.
Then the elders in the north(Including Buhari) supported them and said an attack on them was an attack on the North. Bombing and attacking of churches was a sunday-sunday event. It was not until some northerners became uncomfortable and showed displeasure in the activity of the sect that bokoharam now began to attack muslims for not giving them full support.

I have always expressed my fear for the people of southern Nigeria because they are mostly christians . I asked why negotiations worked with Buhari (Muslim+North) and not with GEJ (Christian+south).Now you can see that almost all security agencies are manned by the North, Bokoharam is of the North, Abduction done in the North, Negotiations are done by the North.

I also ask what are the terms of this negotiation ? What would the government offer a group that believes the entire North and Nigeria should be terrorized into submission to their religion . The group that is ready to kill muslims if they don’t support attack on christians .
It has now become clear that there are 2 factions of bokoharam. One led by shekau , that believes all christians should be attacked along with muslims that have not given full support.

The second is the one led by Al-Barnawi who believes its only christians that should be attacked and not muslims .
http://dailypost.ng/2016/08/05/new-boko-haram-leader-al-barnawi-accuses-shekau-corruption-unjustifiable-killing-muslims/

Now you can guess the side that is negotiating and cooperating with Buhari. The side of al-barnawi, because you always see shekau appear in videos each time the federal government finishes their discussion with al-barnawi group and claims bokoharam is over.
Now, buhari has a good working relationship and understanding with the part that only wants christians attacked. What then could he promise them in exchange for peaceful elections ? We all know he must give them more than money and release of prisoners. There must be something more sacrificial than that. You can keep guessing till you find out .

Now they abducted Dabchi girls, treated them nice according to the girls. The federal government once again negotiated with the group they are familiar with. Agreed to whatever conditions and the rest of the girls were released, while the only christian girl was held back.
Just like the president claimed ignorant of the fact that the IG of police disobeyed his orders in benue, he will also claim ignorant of the fact that bokoharam would hold back the christian girl .

We all know that before there is an agreement in a negotiation, the terms and conditions must be clear to both parties. This means the FG negotiation board, knew and agreed to the terms that the muslim girls will be released and the christian girl held back. This is in agreement and believe of the other faction of bokoharam.
While osibanjo is out there telling the world how much GEJ stole and what it would have been used for, a more serious religious negotiation is taking place behind his back with terrorists. He will be there shouting goodluck jonathan and the full impact of these negotiations will catch up with him .

I urge every christian not to see this dabchi release situation as a coincidence, rather as a symbolical event. This means that they have conquered the christians and we have to bow to them . Its not just about the christian girl that is held back for not denouncing her faith, it’s a sign of an attempt to subdue the christian faith in Nigeria.

Raise your voices, mount pressure for the release of that that girl and most importantly get your voters card ready. We have to vote out a president that surrounds himself with people of same faith in key positions, negotiates with terrorists and agrees to conditions that aims at subduing christianity . If we don’t do this, after 2019, we as Christians will begin to see the second phase of the agreement with bokoharam. And then the tables and attack will be turned to us. A stitch in time they say, saves nine.

You said the truth

tesppidd:
Wailers i hail una!

The same people calling the dapchi incident is a scam are the very same ones saying the dapchi scam shows boko haram has not been defeated.

Wailers must wish they have 10 sides of the mouth right now, so that they can say 10 different things at once.

So what's your point. That the defeated boko Haram kidnapped the girls?

Sirjamo:
Nonsense. Tinubu I can understand; how much electoral value does saraki have?

Then why fight against the election reordering.

savio93:
.this is the problem with Nigeria. Instead of deploying soldiers and. Combating the menace, It's prayer that is making head line.
I hope the child is returned safely

Are we lacking soldiers in that place?. Please don't get offended, when people pray.

Abeg make we hear word in jare...

All these stories from the defeated evil camp are just looking for anything to link with their defeat at the election.

The data had no influence on the actual voting.

The democratic had the media on their side with various manipulated polls, giving them the edge.

They should go and sleep.

Trump is president!!!!

I refused to buy a Toyota corolla for 1.2m before buhari became president. Now, they can't sell it for 1.6

This is just an example. Now you want to tell me the regime is a good and favorable one?

Something must be wrong with anyone who thinks the government is good.