₦airaland Forum

Olofofo247ng:
I once lived in this kind of house in Mushin. 24 rooms, one prepaid meter, and a single toilet that everybody was expected to wash “after use” but nobody actually washed. My room was sandwiched between Mama Kemi who fried akara by 4am and Brother Taye who was learning keyboard with earphones that didn’t work. So every morning was a remix: akara oil hissing, “Do-Re-Mi-Fa”...blasting from next door, and NEPA doing their own percussion by taking light immediately your water in the kettle starts boiling. The real wahala was the bathroom queue. If you mistakenly forget your bucket outside, you’d meet it converted to eba container by the yard kids, or worse, find Papa Ndu’s wrapper hanging on your line with a note: “Abeg manage am, rain beat me.”

The peak madness was when our landlord’s son installed one CCTV camera facing the corridor after too many slippers went missing. First night, light went and the whole building gathered to watch “playback” with phone torch. We caught Mama Sikiru’s goat chewing the wire, two teenagers kissing by the tank, and Uncle Emma sleepwalking with only a towel and chewing stick. By morning the camera itself had disappeared. Landlord asked who took it, and 15 tenants shouted in unison: “Na NEPA!”...Till I left the house, nobody knows if it was a person or NEPA spirit that stole the camera.

If you write a full novel like this you will make a lot of money.

Rrchrd:
Sometimes i used 5k & cook soup that will last for a week

Then data: i usually subscribe #500 for 3.5gb ( airtel monthly subscription

It is well i never lose hope i know that Almighty God will favour me soon.

Don't you eat rice, beans and yam? You don't eat snacks?

Rrchrd:
Hmm u mean 120k can't feed only u a month
When am here surviving with 20k a month as i don't have a job yet.

How do you feed and buy data plus other needs on 20k?

Yungmil:
Open a betja shop and double that money 17 months.

Have you opened one before? How much does it take open it?

richmond500:
Donald Duke is one person that I'll vote for but I doubt he has the financial muscle to fight the others

Peter Obi didn't use financial muscle. I don't know he pulled it off without financial muscle.

CJStarz:
A smear on the reputation of the VC, Prof. Nnenna Otti,the Abia 2023 election heroine. She should get those culprits arrested and dealt with.

Nothing is smearing her. Is she the one who asked the man o war idiots to kill the student?

DSS1335:
Everything I bought from temu is either useless, worn out or torn out in less than 6 months. They need to tighten their market against sales of substandard products

The things I have bought are still intact. What kind of things did you buy?

ZUBY77:
How is this helping Nigeria? Or are we supposed to be bragging for nothing?
We still buy petrol products at very high cost here

This is someone's private business. He is not doing it to help Nigeria. He is doing it to make money. If you need something that will help Nigeria then ask Tinubu about it.

FxMasterz:
But, you see this Tinubu, you just have to see beyond the horizon to know he's doing what any good president would do for the country.

See you later after Tinubu's tenure.

GanagiBitrus:
So one pineapple plant will only produce one fruit, whereas one orange plant will produce hundreds of fruits.
That doesn't make good economic sense to go into pineapple farming.

If more people think like you it means more people will avoid cultivating Pineapples, and then Pineapples will become scarce and the price goes high enough to make it profitable for the few who cultivate Pineapples. It will then start making economic sense for the farmers growing pineapples.

Apcshit:
Ugly woman-whats she feeling like?

What kind of stupid response is this? Instead of calling out the scammer you are criticizing the lady? You need deliverance.

FxMasterz:
Smiling. I think the outward show of character by Peter Obi is a farce. People like him can be very dangerous. Well, being dangerous is a good thing for a Nigerian president. Otherwise, the fellow will die before his time. He needs to be shrewd, unpredictable and stubborn at the same time. If I read between your lines, I suppose you meant people management rather than just character. Maybe Obi is good at managing people and crises. I do not know how true this is, as you didn't provide your basis for this assertion.

Politicians are cunning. Remember James Nwafor and the Eze river massacres under Obi's government. Just take a look at some past associates of Obi who left him and what they said about him, you won't see anything like character in his private dealings. That's good for Nigeria anyway. As president, if you have character, you won't achieve anything. This actually was the reason why many doubted Osibanjo. He was too nice to be president. He later proved his mettle during some of Buhari's many absenteeism though, but most people are still fixated on his niceness. I will vote Osibanjo 1,000 times before I even consider Tinubu. I also rate him higher than Akinwumi because Akinwumi has never been in government, hence you can never be very accurate about what he could do. But, for Osibanjo,I can look at his antecedents and make strong decisions on that.

But, you see, politicians are not nice generally, Osibanjo may still be an exception but I could observe how he defied the north and even pitched himself against his boss. He valued Nigeria above relationships. I'm sure you would agree with me.

So, as I was saying, no politician in Nigeria has character. They're very cunning. But, that's good for Nigeria as I said. They have individual styles of bad character. Obi's own is very covert. He's shrewd. Very shrewd. And, it's a good trait for presidency. However, I don't think he can defy the north to achieve an aim. That one can only be left to the imagination as there's no way to prove that. But Tinubu grew up as a brutal, fearless man. Someone who even pushed drugs and frolick with hooligans. Such don't hear come after they hear go. His fearlessly is tested. And you can see it in his presidency. To lead Nigeria, you must be a military man or be a tough man.

If by character, you meant people management or crisis management, I may oblige you because Tinubu and his lieutenants have not demonstrated enough skill in this area.

Oh, and I remember you said Tinubu steals better than Obi. We cannot tell o because they both have the same style. They'll steal and you'll never know how much because of the style they've both perfected..

Future events are still unfolding. So all I can say at this point is let's watch and see what is coming up ahead. The future will prove you right or wrong. Especially if Peter Obi becomes president in future. Then we can actually compare the performances of Bola Tinubu and Peter Obi as president.

FxMasterz:
Now, this is better talk than affirming Peter Obi's past. The shift you made now has a better outlook. You're not supporting the Peter Obi of 2014. You're supporting a probabilistic Peter Obi for 2027. But, what if nothing has changed?

My support for Tinubu is based on the fact that he did better than his competitors in previous leadership assignments. Not because he is the best of the best that Nigeria could have. I have many candidates of South Western and South Eastern extraction I still prefer over him. But, the issue is that I don't see what anyone would do differently if he becomes president in Tinubu's stead. Here is it:

1. For Nigeria to move forward, both fuel and forex subsidies must be removed.

2. This will similarly increase the cost of living as it is today. Any president that cannot do away with subsidy is already a failure. It means he's maintaining the status quo. Nigeria would collapse in less than 10yrs by my projection.

3. If the president is concerned about infrastructural development considering how far behind Nigeria has being infrastructurally, he might borrow money to close up the gaps.

4. Tinubu's reforms are absolutely necessary if Nigeria would move forward. No lily livered president can have the boldness to implement the reforms Tinubu is implementing. Many presidents would soft pedal the moment the masses cry out against them. Meanwhile, the reforms are extremely necessary. The only issue I have with the reforms is that the government should have taken the time to educate the masses on the necessity of the reforms before and during implementation.

5. When you look at how Tinubu is touching all government parastatals with his reforms, you should commend him. He's reforming, overturning, reinventing and rejigging many institutions at a go in a bid to inject fresh life into the nation. He has decentralized some programs that were being monopolized by the north, and didn't bulge when the north cried out. Several other presidents would chicken out for fear of reelection.

6..He is not afraid of the north. The North has been the bane of Nigeria. That's the kind of president we need.

7. I believe Tinubu would do more in his 2nd term than he did in the first. Especially in the area of insecurity. Tinubu will crush the north to put an end to the menace. Right now, he is taking it slowly because continuity matters.

8. Leadership is not magic. Tinubu himself is an accomplished accountant, and knows what he's doing. But, it's still too early to rate his economic performance. I am giving him 5 years on that. Presently, the economy is looking positive. Price does not necessarily have to come down but money must be easily accessible to the masses. That's what matters. Not price. Developed nations have extremely high prices for goods and services compared to Nigeria. However, they're livable because the money is easily accessible. I'm looking to see that accessibility in 5 years of this government.

9. Looking at the crop of aspirants vying for the presidency now, I don't see anyone who'll do better than Tinubu among them:

1. Atiku: A well known politician with high level corruption as his identity. While there's no evidence of corruption on Tinubu yet, Atiku has multi-billion dollar evidences against his name.

2. Obi: He MAY be sincere but his sincerity is in doubt. If we must separate him from his past performance as you opined, we still have to look at his capability to take decisive actions without tearing the north. This issue is much more important than merely having good intentions.

3. Sowore: Grossly inexperienced. He has the seal but zeal is not enough to turn around the fortunes of a nation. Sowore lacks any governance experience to lead a complex and multidimensional Nigeria in my opinion.

I started observing Tinubu more closely during his pre -election campaigns when he said "Other nations cannot be progressing while Nigeria remains on its knees." That statement comes only from the lips of someone who is pained by underdevelopment. It made him look sincere. I still didn't vote him anyway, but the things he's doing in his presidency shows he really meant what he said.

Nigeria had already gone to the dogs. Tinubu is steering the country in a new direction. This sudden change of course coupled with the internal shakeups would bring temporal hardship. We must endure a few years. Nothing ventured, nothing gained. We cannot continue maintaining the status quo. The country will die.

Peter Obi has something which Tinubu doesn't have as much. And that is character. Character is also very important on the job. I am not saying Tinubu has bad character. But his character is not on par with Peter Obi. Peter Obi said he was going to remove subsidy if he gets elected. If he had been elected and he removed subsidy I trust him to go to the streets to speak with Nigerians and plead with them for their understanding and patience. This can greatly help to pacify the masses. But Tinubu can never do this. Secondly, for every one Naira that Peter Obi steals l trust Tinubu to steal 1000 Naira.

Everything you listed up there as Tinubu's advantages, Peter Obi can also accomplish them PLUS a better character, PLUS less money lost in corruption. That's why he is a more attractive candidate to me.

FxMasterz:
If you have low expectations of him and believe that his slow paced leadership style can bring quick turn around to a nation, you're good to go.

He left office as governor 12 years ago. 12 years is a long time to develop new beliefs, life realignment and objectives. So I wouldn't really say the Peter Obi who "failed" as governor is exactly the same person which will guarantee the same leadership style as president.

I have higher standards for evaluating leaders. Nigeria is lagging much behind its actual status. It needs aggressive turnarounds.

If you have higher standards for evaluating leaders you wouldn't be supporting Tinubu. You have to be talking about a premium economist to lead Nigeria. Someone like Akinwumi Adesina. That's the kind of person you will bring and I will forget about Peter Obi. The reason I currently support Peter Obi is just because I feel he is the better candidate among the top candidates that can win a general election. That doesn't mean he is the best Nigeria can provide.

A leader that can aggressively lead the country, step on toes, spread his tentacles everywhere, implement multiple gigantic projects and drive the country forward without minding public opinion or minding whose horse was gorged is my man.

Peter Obi can still possibly do all you mentioned. Using past records of his leadership of Anambra doesn't guarantee what his leadership approach will be as president after leaving office as governor since 2014. We have already seen what Tinubu can do and it is now worth trying someone different because we have never had any candidate who has presented his case like Peter Obi to rule Nigeria. Don't be too comfortable with Tinubu. Even if we elect Peter Obi the worst that will happen is that things will remain the same as Tinubu's tenure without much improvement. Buhari was clueless but the country still survived destruction. Peter Obi has a far better idea than Buhari so it wouldn't be under his watch that the country will be destroyed.

FxMasterz:
You are the one who failed to understand. My position from the onset is this:

1. Both Tinubu and Obi are the same crop of politicians that made Nigeria to be what it is today.

2. Tinubu has his shortcomings but he actually did well in Lagos. He wasn't perfect. He could have done much better than that, but he did exceptionally well. He could do more though. He was very futuristic in his governance.

3. Obi has his strengths but he didn't unleash his full potential on Anambra. If he knew he'll vie for president, he probably would have done much better. The areas in which he failed such as 13 months strike, mass none indigene civil servant retrenchment, lack of solid projects, etc except roads overshadowed any little achievement he had.

3. Obi could achieve more than he did but he decided to keep money in accounts instead of unleashing the monies for the wealth and development of the state. This is why I and many others regard him a failure. He didn't measure up to expectations. Anambra is not as rich as Lagos but Ananbra does not have as much needs as Lagos. 8000km road could mean a lot for Anambra but means little to Lagos. There are several things he could have done for Anambra that would mean a lot for Anambra but mean little for Lagos. No one is expecting a Lagos treatment for Anambra. Any governor just has to do his work, it will be very obvious. It is much more difficult to perform well as Lagos Governor than as Anambra. Lagos is more tasking. Highly demanding. Anyone who does well I. Lagos' governance is a high performer. If you can't do well in Ananbra, you would not be able to do anything at all for Lagos if you were put there. Lagos was rough, dangerous, achaia, etc. Tinubu changed all of that. He tried. Obi needs very little efforts to replicate that in Ananbra but did he?

4. The things Obi was supposed to do that he didn't do, coupled with the very glaring shortcomings of his government (his people complained bitterly during his tenure) produced the current perception many of us have of him.

5. Obi is presenting himself as an exceptional leader when everyone know he didn't lead Anambra exceptionally. To be able to make that presentation in all honesty and acceptability, he should first detach himself from his unexceptional past and recast a new imagery of himself. Honestly, if I meet Obi one on one, and I tell him this, he'll immediately see the wisdom in that advice. This is all he needs to do to get the whole of Nigeria in his pocket. I don't know why you are failing to see this. It will work for any politician.

You should just throw away your biases for any politician. You'll see clearly that I hate mediocrity.

If you believe Peter Obi failed then that's your own opinion. But my opinion is that he didn't fail. His performance was just okay. The reason why his supporters are giving him is a chance is not really because of his performance as governor. We intend to give him a chance because he has shown seriousness to do better.

FxMasterz:
The only difference is that after you use my reasoning to assess Tinubu's performance, he still supercedes Obi exponentially.

Honestly it is not as simple as that and you haven't yet provided any strong compelling argument to prove that Tinubu significantly outperformed Obi. Lagos state and Anambra states are two different states subject to different conditions. I didn't say Tinubu failed but I would debate his actual performance score and it definitely wouldn't reach 60%. Tinubu's performance score should be calculated by the amount of resources he had access to and what he actually did with it. The same formula should also used to assess Peter Obi as well. Lagos state is a wealthier state so I expect Tinubu to do more than Peter Obi who governed a poorer state. It would have been easier to compare their performances if they were both past governors of Lagos state.

No governor should leave money in accounts when the state still has many needs to be met. Has Obi solved all of Anambra's problems before he stashed the monies away?

It was proven that Peter Obi saved a lot of money for Anambra and I agree with you that money should be spent on development and not storage. But I can't really tell why he made the decision to save money rather than spend on more projects. There could possibly be challenges ahead that prompted the decision to save money. Regarding stashing of money away I don't really understand what you mean by that. There was no record proving that he stashed money to his own bank account. It was reported that he saved the money for Anambra

Tinubu actually was doing everything he could to make Lagos more livable. And that's the fact. I didn't see that same deal replicated in Obi.

You can never see it because you are forcing your mind to see Obi as a failure. If Peter Obi failed AI would have pointed it out straightaway after analyzing public data. But AI pointed that he still achieved a number of things in spite of the criticisms you have against him. And when you balance his achievements with his criticisms then you get a decent performance.

Even you, in all your empty headedness cannot give us anything Obi did except 8,000km road, and yet you see it as a reason for bragging. We're talking about projects here. Not just policies.

I previously listed all that Peter Obi was credited for doing and you only singled out 8000km of roads as his only achievement? Have you seen you are the one being dubious?

Is that how he'll keep money away as president while doctors go on strike for their salaries, infrastructural gaps remain unclosed, no new schools are built, etc

I previously mentioned that ruling Anambra is not the same as ruling Nigeria. The heat you get from ruling Nigeria is hotter than the heat you get from ruling Anambra. He knows Nigeria has a lot to be fixed and he dare not keep money away. At least I am sure he wouldn't have embarked on wasteful projects like the coastal highway which Nigeria doesn't urgently need. As a financially prudent person I bet he would have channeled the funds to invest in important areas like power supply industrialization. He has mentioned it several times that he intends to move Nigeria from consumption to production and this is exactly what will have a direct impact in the lives of Nigerians, and not Tinubu's audio "international watchdog" policies that doesn't reflect in the lives of the masses

Tell us exactly the massive and imposing projects Obi delivered as governor like Tinubu did in Lagos? Very simple question that you've failed to answer.

I have repeatedly it several times that there is no way that Anambra can match Lagos in massive projects because they don't have the same purse size. Peter Obi worked with the lesser finances available to him. I previously listed Peter Obi's achievements and you are still ignoring them because you are hell bent on believing that Peter Obi is a failure.

FSBoperator:
This is the humiliation ritual your Giringori knew was going to happen to him.

But why Una vote Fulani for SE instead of Una bloda Amaechi ?

Magaz

They are looking for who can beat Tinubu and fill their stomachs when the candidate becomes president. Unfortunately they felt Amaechi can't beat Tinubu. Your stomach comes first before tribal affiliation.

FxMasterz:
Obi was a failure by what he was supposed to do that he never did!

That's great!!! And I am also saying that if I use this your reasoning to assess Tinubu's performance he will also be a failure because there were things Tinubu was supposed to do that he failed to do, and the failures were the reasons for all the criticisms he received. Why is this difficult to download into that dumb head?

FxMasterz:
I love the word "also" in the bolded. In English, it simply means, "I agree Obi failed, but Tinubu also failed." But, don't fail Tinubu just because Obi did, okay?

You lack comprehension. It means if you believe Peter Obi failed using only the metrics of what he didn't get right then Tinubu also failed using your own methodology of assessing performance since Tinubu also had things he didn't do. Don't be dull.

Chai! Did this one go to school at all? I thought you'll bring such things as fiscal recklessness, embezzlement of state funds, neglect of key government functions, governmental ineptitude, etc.

These things where there if you can read properly. But you can't

So, creation of LCDAs is failure. Did he create them on your head? If they're unconstitutional, why didn't any court invalidate them? Did Tinubu create them for his family or for the good of Lagos? The LCDAs exist till today.

Doing what is unconstitutional is also failure. Don't even argue it. Under the 1999 Constitution of the Federal Republic of Nigeria, a governor has zero executive powers to single-handedly create, declare, or establish any tier of local council.

Can you now tell me exactly what he did for education apart from returning schools to missionaries? Tell me how many hospitals Obi built in Ananbra as part of his contributions to healthcare. Was it not during his tenure that doctors went on strike for 13 months? If you're not a simpleton, you would have shown workings instead of regurgitating the online propaganda picked by AI.

I am even alarmed that you're still gloating in spite of this blatant display of folly. I have not seen any iota of intelligence in your since we started discussing. All your references are attributable to someone whose brains have been captured.

Even the well thought out solutions that Tinubu implemented out of the box to solve Lagos' unique problems, you're here calling them failures. Such foolery!

If not for Tinubu, Lagos was such a very difficult place to live in, given the lack of organization and order coupled with high crime rate and unfathomable chaos. My first time in Lagos was 1988, and there was no apparent change in Lagos until the early 2000s when Tinubu was governor. Lagos bore all the marks of an old colonial city until Tinubu. The change was gradual but became more pronounced during Fasola's tenure. Fasola himself just executed what Tinubu had pre-planned for him. And Lagos today carries the new face of a modern city because of Tinubu's continuing legacy. If you don't know why he's called the father of modern Lagos, this is it.


So, how did Soludo have the finance to do what he's currently doing? Lol.

Nobody is asking Obi to do what Tinubu did in Lagos. There are basic things government must do. Instead of Obi doing them, he stacked the funds away and only built roads. The state needs schools, hospitals, factories, farms, agricultural machinery, infrastructural developments, etc, rather than put money in these, he built an alcohol company and saved the rest of the money away. Then, he started claiming prudence. Is that prudence or stupidity? Poverty increased by 63% because the money that was supposed to flow into the state through projects and labour was held down in some accounts by the so called Mr Integrity. I wouldn't be surprised if he made profits off the interests accruing on those funds.

Obi's only cogent achievement is the 8,000 km roads he built. All other highlights of his government such as policies, return of schools to missionaries, etc are no achievements at all. AI only called them achievements because some dull citizens online have called them so.

You don't call actions that have positive effects on the people a failure. All you listed against Tinubu from your AI to tag him a failure are just signs of intellectual deficiency. A situation that occurs when a human can't think for himself. He let's AI do the thinking.

These were actions taken that have positively affected Lagos till today. They're all still in full implementation.

Now, let me teach you a little lesson. This is it:

A government fails when it refuses to do the things that it was supposed to do for the masses. What government was supposed to do that government didn't do, that's what is called failure. Failure is not building LCDAs, decentralizing government functions, outsourcing tax or creating LASTMA. Lol.

You always want to find reasons to claim that Tinubu performed excellently well, and you will also want to find excuses to defend his bad records, but you prefer to find reasons to claim that Peter Obi failed. If they offer you 10 million dollars to prove that Peter Obi didn't fail I know you will come up 1000 reasons why Peter Obi didn't fail and 1000 reasons why Tinubu failed. I no longer have the time to engage with someone who has already made up his mind to hate Peter Obi even if God himself reveals to you that his not a failure. Please go away.

Sensiblerealist:
Asake dey make use of inn time well, make he enjoy. Be like say Kizz Daniel dey hibernation or maybe e dey kitchen. Na one guy wey every song Na banger. Omaha Lay too gentle for now

No artiste can be releasing songs every time. You need to take relax for a while. Very soon Asake will also sleep.

FxMasterz:
You're just beign dubious.

AI specifically mentioned what is being criticized about Tinubu- long term governance. Tell me how he did bad by long term governance during his tenure. Secondly, debts. Tell me how he'll finance the LG areas without borrowing. Please I need to answers to this. And remember that he was credited as being the father of modern Lagos, and he also was said to have increased Lagos IGR exponentially. There are was he received significant praise for. Significant praise, not just praise.

I have severely beaten you in this debate but shame wouldn't allow you to accept it.

The things you listed up there are not even the only things that Tinubu was criticized for. It was even Tinubu's fault that the federal government denied Lagos it's LGA funds.

I asked AI to list what he was criticized for and it came up with the following list:

1. The Alpha Beta Monopoly: Critics heavily faulted the administration for outsourcing the state’s Internally Generated Revenue (IGR) collection to Alpha Beta Consulting, a private firm widely alleged to be controlled by Tinubu. Opponents argued that the hefty percentages and commissions paid to the firm from state coffers constituted a massive conflict of interest and official corruption

2. Creation of LCDAs: Tinubu created 37 Local Council Development Areas (LCDAs) alongside the existing 20 local governments to expand governance. This triggered a massive constitutional standoff with the President Olusegun Obasanjo-led federal government, which viewed the move as illegal and consequently seized Lagos State’s local government statutory allocation funds for years. Critics blamed Tinubu's stubborn political maneuvering for temporarily starving local councils of essential development funds.

3. Erosion of Local Government Autonomy: His administration centralized key local functionalities by creating state boards, such as the Lagos State Waste Management Authority (LAWMA) and the Lagos State Signage and Advertisement Agency (LASAA). Critics argued this unlawfully stripped local government councils of their constitutional powers to collect tenement rates, regulate markets, and manage parks.

4. Asset Declaration Scrutiny: Opponents routinely questioned the source of his rapidly accumulating wealth during his tenure, accusing him of cronyism and converting state assets into private properties.

5. Hyper-Taxation: To boost the state's independent revenue, Tinubu introduced aggressive tax drives, new levies, and the Land Use Charge. Critics and civil rights groups argued these policies overburdened poor residents and small business owners.

Peter Obi is a failure by many metrics, and especially because of the things he was supposed to do that he didn't do. Not just because of the failed alcohol business.

Tinubu is also a failure by the metrics I listed above which he is being criticized for. There are also things Tinubu was supposed to do which he didn't do. Do you think you are smart?

How is Tinubu being hyped? Everything credited to Tinubu actually happened. While Obi is being credited with things he didn't do. Or, you don't know what the word hype means?

This dumbness is growing to new higher levels. What's your source to prove that Peter Obi is credited for doing things he didn't do? AI stated that Peter Obi is praised for doing well in financial prudence, healthcare and investments in education and you are telling me he is being credited for doing things he didn't do. This response further validates what I have been repeating here that you intentionally want to believe that Tinubu is GOOD while you intentionally want to believe Peter Obi is BAD. Please kindly leave this debate or else the more you hang around the more your sanity and intelligence will degrade further below.

My Question to AI: Who among both leaders can be said to have brought large scale rapid developments to their states? Be brief and concise.

Are you aware that Lagos state is a far richer state than Anambra thanks to federal government influence as the former capital of Nigeria? So there is no way Anambra will have the finances to carry out the kind of large scale projects that Lagos executes.

FxMasterz:
AI clearly said he received significant praise. You refused to see that. It then pinpointed what critics said. There's nothing in what AI said that could make anybody say his performance was debatable even after AI credited him with being the father of modern Lagos. Now, you're claiming what's not for Tinubu but pivoted around when you came to Obi. You see your bias? AI clearly said Obi's success standing is being debated. You stripped that off Obi and slammed it on Tinubu. Shameless!

Tinubu received praise for the areas he did well and got criticized for the areas he did poorly. Peter Obi was also praised for the areas he did well and got criticized for the areas he did poorly. If you are saying Peter Obi's performance is debatable then Tinubu's performance is also debatable since the both have areas they did well and areas they didn't do too well. If you are saying Peter Obi failed because of the criticism he received then Tinubu also failed because of the criticism he received as well.. I don't know what you are whining about again.

I just hate the way you show too much stewpidity when it comes to this your Obi. AI said his success standing is being debated. Not his degree of success.

But now, you want to change what AI said, claiming it's degrees that's being debated, not the success itself. Your devilry is unmatchable. Obi's success is a subject of debate. That means there are those who believed he failed. We saw them here on Nairaland during his tenure. There are those who think he succeeded, e.g Nefort.

Since you are focusing on the term "debatable" as a life line to save yourself I had to ask AI again so it can rephrase its response and we reconcile the two responses and have a better understanding.

I asked AI again if Tinubu performed well as governor of Lagos state and it gave the following response:

Evaluating Bola Tinubu’s tenure as the Governor of Lagos State (1999–2007) depends largely on the metrics used, as his legacy is a subject of sharp division between strong praise for economic and institutional modernization and criticism regarding financial transparency, political dominance, and urban poverty.

Then I asked AI again if Peter Obi performed well as the governor of Anambra state and it provided the following response:

Evaluating Peter Obi’s tenure as the Governor of Anambra State (2006–2014) depends on the metrics used, as his legacy is defined by a strong reputation for financial prudence, education, and healthcare development, contrasted against criticisms of slow infrastructural expansion, under investing in civil service welfare, and security controversies.

From the responses above I have now understood why AI previously said Peter Obi performance is debatable. It is debatable in the sense that it depends on what you are focusing on. If you are only focusing on his investment in SABMiller then he will be a failure to you. But if you are only focusing on his financial prudence and investments in education and healthcare then he wouldn't be a failure. This is what makes it debatable and that is why we are having this debate. Because you chose your own method of evaluating him by focusing on the negatives while I am debating you to also consider his positive wins before concluding he is a failure.

If you are saying that Peter is a failure because of his investment in SABMiller then I will also say Tinubu is a failure for lacking financial transparency as pointed by AI. And if you are saying Tinubu's performance was fantastic and recieved praise for being the "father of modern Lagos" then I would also say Peter Obi's performance was fantastic for having financial prudence.

There is actually nothing you showed me that proves that Tinubu is better than Peter Obi. The fact that Meta AI and Grok choose Peter Obi as a better leader when forced to pick between Peter Obi and Tinubu is actually a plus for Peter Obi. I previously showed you the screenshots of the AI platforms choosing Peter Obi as a better leader but you shamelessly dismissed them as "hype" as if Tinubu is not also hyped.

FxMasterz:
AI didn't even say Tinubu's governance was bad. It said critics criticize him for long governance and debt. Long governance and debts - for emphasis. And we all know why he had debts. And we understand that long governance to be his firm grip of Lagos after leaving office. How does that make his governance bad?

Where did I say Tinubu's performance was bad? I never stated it anywhere. I only said that AI didn't clearly state that Tinubu performed well just as he did for Kwankwaso and Fashola. Which means his overall performance is debatable.

The critical issue is that Obi's was said to be successful but this success which is the core point here, is being debated. His success his being debated just as you and I are debating it right now.

Success being debated doesn't mean failure. What is debatable is the degree of success whether high or low. The truth is that if Peter Obi was actually a failure as you claimed then AI would have pointed it out straightaway after analyzing public data.

Tinubu is not in his class. Tinubu received significant praise for his governance, and is credited as being the father of modern Lagos but was criticized for debts and long governance. Simple comprehension.

I will ask again, if Tinubu is not in his class then why didn't AI clearly state he performed well just like he did for Kwankwaso and Tinubu?

And I continue to pinpoint your lack of sound reasoning in the matter. Obi doesn't have to claim flawlessness to become president. The reason why he may never become president is because of his very claim of unblemished leadership. Everyone who knows him know that the claim is false. That's why many people won't vote Obi. He is lying to the people claiming to be who he is not. I don't need to argue with you on this anymore because I have seen you to be very dishonest. What I did now is to ask AI: Which presidential aspirant in Nigeria today is claiming to be without blemish? The question and its answer has been attached in the image below. If this does not shut your lips, then you must be really a competitor with Satan in the profession of lies and dishonesty.

And what is so wrong to claim unblemished leadership? How does it affect his ability to deliver good governance in the future? That's why I said you are focusing on irrelevant matters after you couldn't find any solid reason that proves Peter Obi is not capable of leading Nigeria.

FxMasterz:
Can you see how bias you are?
AI said Tinubu's tenure yielded a mix of SIGNIFICANT PRAISE, and went on to credit him as the Father of modern Lagos. But, you presented the whole on the basis of what AI credited to Tinubu's critics. Meanwhile, you didn't see that AI concluded that Obi's performance is being debated.

You were the one that claimed Tinubu's performance was great. So I simply drew your attention to the negative side to balance what you thought was the positives. You have also been highlighting only Peter Obi's mistakes as the only parameters that made him a failure as governor. You failed to also weigh the good things he did which AI was able to balance and conclude that his performance wasn't bad overall.

Anyway, I couldn't find anything new in your previous comment worthy of my response. So I would simply use this space to recap the points I have been trying to get across to you.

1. You said Peter Obi was a failure as governor and I have shown he wasn't a failure. His performance wasn't fantastic but just okay and he is not as corrupt as many other politicians.

2. You said Peter Obi carries himself like a flawless politician and my argument is that it doesn't matter and it is irrelevant. Everyone knows no politician can be flawless and even if Peter Obi claims he is flawless many people including myself will understand it as he is only trying to say there is no major issues about his past and he is not corrupt compared to the average politician.

3. You said Peter Obi doesn't deserve a chance a chance to be president of Nigeria and my position is that his feelings and recent postures have shown that he intends to do better. He doesn't need to apologize for any past. Many of his supporters including myself know that he intends to improve.

I have said enough to pass these points across and I don't intend to convince you. I only wanted to show that your impression about Peter Obi wasn't l all that correct.

FxMasterz:
You rubbish all his performance as an accountant in Mobil, his performance as Lagos Governor his performance as president of Nigeria with all international watchdogs highlighting the new face of Nigeria's current positioning...

You have been claiming that Tinubu performed well as governor of Lagos state and is currently performing well as president of Nigeria. I ignored it in your previous comments just to shorten my response but I will attend to it now and show you that Tinubu is not better than Peter Obi.

Thank God for AI because it made it very much easier to dig up performance metrics from public data and analyzing them without having to do it manually. Secondly AI is neutral and fair in analysis and it doesn't pick sides by sentiments.

As a yardstick, I asked AI about the performance of Rabiu Kwankwaso, the former governor of Kano state and it says:

Yes, Rabiu.Kwankwaso is widely regarded as
one of the most successful and
transformative governors in the history of
Kano State. Serving two non-consecutive terms
(1999-2003 and 2011-2015), his administration
left an enduring impact on the state's socio-
economic landscape. His performance spawned
the highly influential Kwankwasiyya Movement,
which remains a dominant political force in
Northern Nigeria.

You can see that AI answered it with a plain YES.

Then I asked AI about the performance of Babatunde Fashola as the former governor of Lagos state and it says:

Yes, Babatunde Fashola is widely regarded as one of the most successful and effective governors of Lagos State in Nigeria's modern democratic era. Serving two terms from 2007 to 2015, his administration is heavily credited with transforming Lagos from a chaotic city into a functional, modernized megacity. International publications like Time and The Economist praised his disciplined approach, with the latter describing him as a "rare good man" who did his job well.

You can also see that AI answered it with a plain YES.

Then I asked AI about the performance of Peter Obi as governor of Anambra state and it says:

Peter Obi's tenure as the Governor of
Anambra State (2006-2014) is widely
regarded as highly successful, particularly in
fiscal discipline, education, and healthcare
reforms, though it remains a subject of
intense political debate. While his supporters
point to transformative institutional metrics,
critics argue his extreme financial conservatism
came at the expense of major industrial or
monumental infrastructure
projects.

From the AI responses above you can see that AI strongly feels that Rabiu Kwankwaso and Babatunde Fashola performed better than Peter Obi. But it still regards Peter Obi's performance as successful. This AI response is actually matching with what I previously told you that Peter Obi's performance was okay and not a failure as you claimed. But you will never admit you were wrong by saying Peter Obi failed as governor. You were using only the negative sides of his performance to conclude he failed without also weighing the positive sides. Focusing on the negative sides alone is actually a dumb approach to carrying performance analysis.

Finally I asked AI about the performance of Bola Tinubu as the former Lagos state governor and it replied as follows:

Evaluating Bola Tinubu's performance as the
governor of Lagos.State(1999-2007) yields a mix
of significant praise for structural reform and
sharp criticism regarding long-term governance
and debt. Supporters widely view him as the
"father of modern Lagos," while critics argue his
policies laid the groundwork for severe state debt
and political monopolisation.

When you compare the response above with that of Kwankwaso, Fashola and Peter Obi you can see that AI is not even sure about Tinubu's performance. It couldn't give a clear answer whether it was successful or not. In the AI response for Peter Obi at least AI said Peter Obi's performance was successful. I trust AI a million times more than any rubbish you will ever tell me about Tinubu's performance because AI is a better data aggregator than you and it doesn't pick sides due to emotional feelings. Comparing the AI responses above I will trust AI and conclude that Peter Obi performed better than Bola Tinubu.

You also claimed Tinubu is doing well as president by citing "international watchdogs". What kind of development happens when the masses don't feel the effect and prices have gone way higher than it happened in previous administrations? Since you used Nairaland posts claiming Peter Obi failed as a metric to conclude that Peter Obi actually failed as governor, I will also use Nairaland posts complaining bitterly about Tinubu's performance as president to also claim that Tinubu is a huge failure as president. The posts on Nairaland complaining about Tinubu's performance as president are just very many so I don't need to screenshot anything.

Even with the numerous screenshots that I have shared with you, you're here telling me that I'm the only one you have seen saying Obi presents himself as a flawless politician. It makes me think you've lost it. You dismissed his challenge which Adeyanju countered. You dismissed all the screenshots where he categorically claimed he was unblemished. I am now the one at fault for stating what he stated about himself?

Going mute doesn't mean guilt. Peter Obi may not have the time for the Adeyanju guy same way he ignores Reno. Besides, I never said Peter Obi is flawless. You are the one claiming he is presenting himself as a flawless guy and then you look for things to say he is not flawless. You created this flawless irrelevant rubbish to use against Peter Obi and at the same time you created your own counter to your fake and irrelevant accusation. It's all your own creation and not mine. So I have no answer to give you about this your irrelevant accusation of Peter Obi carrying himself like a flawless politician. How exactly does it affect his ability to lead? Every politician presents themselves as a worthy choice to lead and this is what Peter Obi is doing by saying his political record is untainted even though there might be little issues underground. Bola Tinubu himself also presented himself as a worthy person to lead Nigeria in spite of his shady background. Which politician will present himself as is and tell you he is a corrupt politician? Please look for a better accusation and not this your "flawless politician" nonsense.

Can you show me the post where I claimed that all Anambra governors past and present did better than Obi? Are you deliberately dubious or it's just a product or your Iow lQ? All I have said so far is that many Anambra governors did better than him, and that he is not an exceptional politician compared to the likes of Soludo and a few others

How many full tem governors led before Peter Obi since the return to democracy in 1999? It was only Chinwoke Mbadinuju. So your statement saying MANY GOVERNORS did better than Peter Obi was just plainly senseless. And what exactly is the similarity between MANY GOVERNORS and A FEW OTHERS? When I point out all these dumbness you think I am lying.

What have I done wrong in saying his positioning is deceptive and that he must first detach himself from that past? It's really pathetic, and I suspect political brainwashing and unbridled hero worship.

There is nothing wrong as long as you also require your lord and saviour Tinubu to detach himself from his past. You expect Obi to detach but Tinubu can remain attached? What kind of foolishness is that?

If he's not presenting himself as an unblemished politician...

And which politician doesn't present themselves as unblemished to win votes? You have nothing reasonable to say.

garykoeman:
He was never given any.

Yar adua initially wanted to pick James ibori as his vp.

Before obj interfere.

Na wah o. Different versions of the story. I even read in the newspaper at some point that Obasanjo wanted to pick Donald Duke as Yaradua's running mate, but he was discouraged because he didn't want Donald Duke's larger personality to cause the kind of issues Obasanjo had with Atiku as his vice president in their tenure.

FxMasterz:
And I'm also sorry to inform you that he claimed to be a flawless politician. He doesn't have to use the word directly. There are many words and sentences that point to his communication as a positioning for flawlessness.

The truth is that you are just looking for the slightest thing to dismiss Peter Obi as a bad candidate for president. But you are not holding a disastrous Tinubu as a drug dealer and a corrupt personality to the same standard. It's just shameful.

Even if Peter Obi claims to be a flawless politician every right thinking person would know it is just a hyperbole as a figure of speech. No politician can be flawless and everybody knows it. So it is a waste a time and just stupid trying to accuse Peter Obi of carrying himself like a flawless politician. Every sensible person knows he is only trying to say he is a good product and he is better than most Nigerian politicians specifically in the aspect of integrity and not necessarily leadership. You are the first person I have seen saying Peter Obi carries himself like a flawless politician because you couldn't find any serious thing you could use to criticize Peter Obi and you decided to pick up an irrelevant issue. Please go away.

Lol. You're comparing Obi with failures like Mbadinugu and you're celebrating it.

Why are you running from your shadow? Were you not the one who claimed below that other governors of Anambra performed better than Peter Obi?

I chose to believe that Obi failed based on what I know of his tenure as Anambra governor. Those things I listed are not all the negatives about his government. Those things you listed are nothing compared to what many Anambra governors have done.

Who contradicted himself above? Keep on clowning.

You now concluded with your defective reasoning that Soludo can't be in the equation now because he's yet to finish his tenure. Meanwhile Soludo has supposed Obi even though he's yet to complete his tenure. I know that your dubious mind won't want to admit that, since your sole aim in this discussion is to deceive.

If you were smart enough you would have known that a governor can still run down a state within 6 months of leaving office. Please wait for Soludo to finish his tenure. Stop rushing to hate Peter Obi.

So, what have we been arguing about all these while? Well, I'm glad that you have admitted that his performance was just okay, and not exceptional. That's a great win for Nigeria. Peter Obi is therefore hyping himself as an exceptional politician when he's not. To this, even Nefort has come to agree. Is God not wonderful?

Why the hell are you asking me that silly question? Were you not the one who has been accusing Peter Obi of being a failure and I have been telling you his performance was okay? And you are now saying you are glad I have admitted his performance was okay? You really need deliverance.

My whole position was that Obi should first detach himself from his past by going the apology way, and then cast a new vision for Nigeria.

You need deliverance man. Why didn't you require Tinubu to do the same apology inspite of his terrible background compared to Peter Obi? Politicians like Tinubu are the reason why you think Peter Obi carries himself like a "Flawless politician". Because Peter Obi knows he is clean and very much better than Tinubu. When the bar is raised and more politicians become cleaner than Peter Obi then we can eventually agree that Peter Obi is not "flawless".

FxMasterz:
See this one. He thinks everyone is duII ike himself. Must Obi use the word 'flaeless' before he implies it? Just look at the screenshots I uploaded and carry your mumism away from here.

I am sorry to inform you that as long as Peter Obi hasn't claimed to be a flawless person, accusing him of carrying himself like a flawless person is your own personal judgement and feeling and doesn't represent fact.

I chose to believe that Obi failed based on what I know of his tenure as Anambra governor. Those things I listed are not all the negatives about his government.

I am glad you said I CHOSE. Which is just your personal feeling and doesn't represent fact.

Those things you listed are nothing compared to what many Anambra governors have done. They're all normal government activities that do not make any governor exceptional.

Unfortunately AI doesn't agree with you. See the screenshots I attached where AI rated Obi better than the other past governors who completed their tenures. I trust AI because it is very efficient at digging up all available public data, analyzing them and summarizing the verdict. Apart from Peter Obi it is only Willie Obiano and Chinwoke Mbadinuju who completed their tenures. The rest only spent a short time on the seat before they were removed. Those sacked governors are not eligible for comparison.

You didn't provide any strong evidence that he was an exceptional governor. Even in the deepest recesses of your heart, you know Obi was not an exceptional governor. And before you start asking me if Tinubu was exceptional (as I have come to know how you reason), that would be another unintelligent question because Tinubu never claimed himself an exceptional presidential candidate like Obi is doing. Obi is the one who has the duty to show us what exceptional things he has done to make us believe he is exceptional as he claimed. His people were even cursing him during his tenure. Lol. Tinubu's records as Lagos Governor surpasses that of Obi, yet even Tinubu never claimed himself exceptional

Please where did I say that Peter Obi was exceptional? I have never said his performance was exceptional. Kindy go through my previous comments and point out where I said his performance was exceptional. I only said his performance was okay and not bad. You are saying his performance was bad and I am saying his performance is okay. Saying it's okay doesn't mean I am saying it is exceptional. Peter Obi himself hasn't also claimed that is performance was exceptional. I mentioned it before that you are just making empty noise.

You see your life? Instead of juxtaposing Obi's performance against Soludo's to prove your position on Obi.

Please wait for Soludo to compete his tenure first. It's still early and dumb to give him a scorecard. Even if Soludo outperforms Peter Obi it still doesn't mean Peter Obi's performance was bad.

I even gave you reasons why that investment was bound to fail but you ignored every sound reason to dwell on delusions. Who were Obi's economic advisors who gave him such woeful advice? At least, we know the quality of such advisors from the outcome of their advice. I do not think any adviser would advice any governor to invest in such a high risk business venture. Obi knows what he did with that particular investment. I have told you the fundamental reasons why the business was bound to fail, and there's no economic advisor that wouldn't consider those reasons before making a decision. In short, both Obi and his advisors lacked foresight and were grossly incompetent. Both he and his advisors should be sacked.

You don't know more than the people in government who possess data and information you don't have regarding the state and it's resources. You are only making assumptions. So keep quiet. Even if the investment was wrong it still doesn't make him a bad governor. I previously said no leader has a 100% performance scorecard. A great leader will still get some things wrong. And it appears you are only focusing on the wrong things that Peter Obi might have done.

Are you telling me that Obi should be given a chance to replicate such woeful investment activities nationally?

Even if you believe Peter Obi failed as governor it is still not an evidence that suggests he will also fail to govern Nigeria properly. Anambra state is not Nigeria and past events can't always be used to predict future events. His governance style may work better for Nigeria than it worked for Anambra. Tinubu was a great governor in your opinion and how has it translated to a better Nigeria as president? The cost of living today is very much higher than what it was before he came in.

Myself and other supporters of Obi do trust Peter Obi to be a better president than Tinubu because he has demonstrated more commitment and interest to see things improve in Nigeria. If Tinubu performed excellently well as governor of Lagos in your opinion then why is he not preferred by the educated class of people who prefer Obi that "failed" as governor of Anambra state? That's because they don't regard his performance as a failure as you do. They see him as someone who intends to do better than his performance as governor of Anambra state.

If only educated people are allowed to vote in a fee and fair election, Peter Obi will severely beat Tinubu and that should tell you something.

Please what is the best way to import goods into Nigeria in 2026 as smooth as possible without issues? I had to ask because I know the method used 5 years ago may probably be outdated and there could probably be a more efficient way to do it today. Please help with answers.

FxMasterz:
Chai, you are not a small li@r, but a big professional one. Obi is going about presenting himself as a flawless politician! Every kid on the streets know this, yet you're here blatantly denying this truth. I have attached AI takes on the matter. I dislike lying people, but you, Nefort has taken yours to a whole new level.

Has Obi himself ever using the phrase FLAWLESS POLITICIAN to describe himself? Please find where he described himself with those exact words. If you can't find it then please just keep quiet. It is only when he plainly says he is a flawless politician that you can accuse him of presenting himself as a flawless politician. Or else you are just making empty noise. As long as he hasn't claimed to be a flawless politician accusing him of presenting himself as a flawless is only a creation of your own imagination and not what Obi himself claimed to be.

Attached below is what AI says about his positioning. Read and stop lying.

I thought you said AI is not reliable because it depends on Obi's fake hype? So why are you now depending on AI for support?

Is this the first time incompetent incumbents perpetuate themselves in office? Was Buhari a performer? Didn't he get a second term too? Many bad performing incumbents get second terms. Yahaya Bello, Dapo Abiodun, are incompetent governors, worse than Obi who both got two tenures. That makes them good governors according to your sIow logic. Getting a second term in office is not a yardstick for measuring good governance. Or what type of reasoning is this?

So you chose to believe that Obi failed due to the few posts you saw on Nairaland plus the things you listed as his failures, but you choose NOT to believe that Obi did well due to votes he got during his re-election plus the things I listed as his achievements? You are simply picking what you want to promote your agenda that Obi is a failure while discarding what you don't want to hear that goes against your agenda.

Peter Obi and Soludo were both at a public event in Anambra and Obi got a louder ovation than Soludo. If Peter Obi was a failure why did he get a louder ovation than Soludo? Please check the link to the video and answer this question.

https://www.facebook.com/watch/?v=3249455778547789&vanity=igwemkpume

Can you see that you're reasoning like a cock? So, Obi left all the necessary upgrades he could make into the life of Anambrans to invest in alcohol production, of all investment opportunities that exist in this world? Only alcohol was the choice of your Obi. And your Ilow lQ is still celebrating it even after it failed woefully. Didn't Obi call himself a savvy businessman?. Before going into the business, he didn't realize that the existing competitors are big enough to suffocate the new company? He didn't realize that consumers are loyal to their brands, and a new brand cannot get enough loyal following to break even, until a new generation of consumers grow to love the new brand? He didn't know that such an investment would require continuous long term profit roll-back before it can produce anything in future? He didn't realize that successive governments who might not buy the idea might not support continuous investment roll-backs in such an enterprise, and would ultimately lead to its failure? How can someone who cannot see a very simple future as this lead a country? Indeed some blind people are glad to be led by another blind man. And when they fall into a ditch, they still wouldn't wake up to sound reasoning Is that not why Obi is your leader?

Even your low analytical depth didn''t tell you all the above.You yourself , like your Obi cannot preempt the fallout of such a disastrous investment and avoid it in time? He wasted Anambra's money on such an investment that every thinking person already knows would fail. And to even think this is alcohol business, a very immoral business for a whole state? Only God can save you from your delusions. Come on, is that what you want him to come and replicate as president?

Do you know how much revenue and employments that money would have brought in for Anambra it he had invested it in something as simple as Agriculture?

You are speaking so naively and trying so hard to make a point while you have none. You are not in the best position to determine what investments Anambra needed at any point in time due to the peculiar circumstances and resources available at that period. Peter Obi had economic advisers and you can't be smarter than all of them and also lacking the reliable government data that Peter Obi used to conclude that the investment may be worth it. If I ask you to forecast what you will eat tomorrow you may not even know. And you are sounding like you can easily forecast complex business and economic challenges several years ahead. It's really easier said than done. You are really so amusing. Oga go and sit down. You don't know anything about investments and accurately predict the future.

FxMasterz:
Honestly, you're very dubious. How does someone presenting himself as is, translate to him accepting your accusations? Presenting myself as I am, does not mean I am who you say I am. Those are two different things. Or, what type of unintelligent talk is this?

You keep running around in circles each time I point out your reasoning deficiencies. Only God knows what you mean by saying "presenting himself as is" when you claim he still denies proven accusations against him like being a drug dealer and siphoning the the wealth of Lagos state.

You think you're talking to a fool? You're actually only wise by half. I have presented the Adeyanju scenario several times. Were you reading without your goggles?

So how does that prove Obi is presenting himself as saint as you claimed? You still haven't answered.

If Obi didn't fail in Anambra, why can't he use his 8 year tenure there as a reference point for good governance? Shouldn't that be an achievement?

Who told you he doesn't reference his achievements in Anambra? Go and listen to all his interviews and come back. I previously asked you a question which you didn't answer; If you think Peter Obi failed, why did the people of Anambra vote for him for a second term? A few Nairaland posts calling him a failure doesn't matter because they are just few and likely from opposition parties. It is the votes from the collective people of Anambra that determines whether he is a failure or not.

Lol. How much is SABMiller worth today? Care to answer? He didn't see any better thing to do with Anambra's money other than this silly investment?

Another dumb comment. The current worth of SABMiller doesn't matter. It doesn't change the fact that the investment was genuine and from a good intention. When people make investments they do so with hope that it yields fruits in the future. Unfortunately situation changes and not every investment turns out great. Dangote has lost money in investments. Does it mean he is a bad businessman? I am so glad to educate you.

I'm happy, you also know that your Boi didn't do well. No need to sugarcoat the bolded

Please where did I admit he didn't do well? I only told you stop focusing only on the areas he may not have done well. There are things he actually accomplished and when you consider both the good and the bad his performance is still good. Unfortunately you want to only focus on the negative things to suit your agenda of calling him a failure. No leader on earth has a 100% score card.

Lol. Every government does this. What's special about regional and urban planning? Lol. Is this what he'll do with Nigeria? Bwahahaha.


Bwahahaha , no proof. Only talk-talk. Provide proofs!

While this may be commendable if proven, it does not make him a good politician. There are many south eastern politicians that achieved much more. Tinubu achieved much more than this in Lagos.

But he's also the one condemning the roads being built by this government abi?


Abeg, go siddon. What did he build? If he built anything worthwhile, why is Soludo building another one after how many years. Are you into comedy?
Why is Soludo making major infrastructural upgrades at the Anambra State Secretariat (Jerome Udoji Secretariat Complex) in Awka?


Nothing extraordinary. It does not make him an extraordinary politician. Lol.



You're the one who has a problem dear. All these unverifiable lists cannot suffice to make Obi special. I don't see any extra ordinary performance that dwarfs even the 8 points I made against him earlier. All you listed are normal government things. Dave Umahi performed much better than Obi as governor of Ebonyi. Alex Otti has surpassed his records in Abs. Solid is doing extraordinary things. Give me Obi's extraordinary performances that placed him above all other politicians, for him to think he's the rescuer of Nigeria. Tinubu outperformed Obi as governor of Lagos. That man left legacies including humans he mentored.

Nairaland does not support more that 4 uploads, I would have given you tons of evidences of Tinubu's mega inputs.

You're just all noise no substance. You couldn't even provide any extraordinary performances of Obi that justifies his current positioning. You also admitted that all the 8 evils he did were areas he didn't do well. Those areas matter so much because they stick.

This same Obi sacked all non Anambra indigenes from the civil service. Including indigenes from Enugu who were once part of the state when Anambra and Enugu belonged to the same Anambra state.

So you want to dismiss his good efforts as irrelevant and unverified while you regard his mistakes as relevant and verified? Just because you are desperately looking for ways to support your false claims that Peter Obi is a failure and he claims to be a saint? It's just pathetic.

foleskay:
China is not even close as the most powerful.


Japan still hv upper hand than China till now. Some months ago the new female pm of Japan threatened China, China quickly run to Europe seeking diplomatic assistance and reminding them of what Japan did during WW2.

You don't know what you are saying. Even the US can't even threaten today's China let alone Japan. Please don't even mention Japan and China in the same sentence today. Japan is not on the same level with China today.