₦airaland Forum

FxMasterz:
Oya, give me the exact sentence where I said Tinubu accepted he is criminal. You're just as deceptive as your Obi.

Quote where I said Tinubu accepted he is a criminal!

You said Tinubu doesn't portray himself as a good person. That he owns up to his flaws and presents himself as is. This means he has accepted he is a bad person. A drug dealer and a corrupt person. Those are criminal offences. How else do you want to explain it?

Nonesene!

Denying an allegation or a series of allegations is not and has never been a claim to sainthood!

Then explain to me with examples why you think Peter Obi portrays himself as a saint. Stop wasting my time.

Hehehe.

1. Ask Obi how he spent the LG funds allocated to his office over the 7yrs in which he failed to conduct LG elections.

2. Oya, tell us why Doctors went on strike in Anambra for 13 months for lack of payments.

3. Obi spokesman, tell us why your Lord and savior hid money in Panama without declaring it.

4. Tell us any substantial and Verifiable project Obi undercook as Anambra governor during his eight year tenure.

5. All the allocations he received for 8yrs, what did he do with them?

6. Where is James Nwafor of the Akwuzu SARs that murdered Anambra youths like goats. He is a close Ally of Obi, why is Obi not talking about him?

7. Tell me why Anambrans were complaining about Obi here on Nairaland as far back as 2008. See attached screenshots.

8. Tell us what Obi was afraid of. Adeyanju said Obi is corrupt and that he'll prove it in court if Obi dues him. Obi threatened litigations but couldn't make good his threat. What was he afraid of? Adeyanju pestered the lying machine to sue him, but the fake man couldn't muster enough courage to do so. What was he afraid of? Can you tell us?

Adeyanju openly called Obi a criminal, yet Obi could not defend his own name. Tell us what he was afraid of!



That's your exact self in the open square . Prove you're not empty by responding intelligently to all 8 critical issues I raised above.

Tell us how someone who failed as a governor of small Anambra will succeed as a president of a homongous Nigeria.

You think you sound intelligent but you are misleading yourself. The fact that you are using posts from Nairaland to prove he failed as governor of Anambra is actually laughable because you can't please everyone as a leader. Some people will complain about your leadership no matter what you do. If 10 people out of 1000 people are dissatisfied you can as well use the opinion of that 10 people to conclude that everyone is dissatisfied. That's how foolish it appears. If Peter Obi failed then how did he get re-elected as Anambra state governor?

The problem with your list is that you are only focusing on areas that Peter Obi may not have done well. So have you asked yourself about the areas he did well? You must have to dig up the areas he did well and counterbalance before you conclude he failed. There is no leader on earth that got every decision right. Some areas will be handled correctly while some other areas may not be handled correctly. So expecting Peter Obi to score 100% is not being realistic.

It's laughable for you to assume that Peter achieved absolutely nothing as governor of Anambra state because you are only focusing on the dark areas. Here are the things Peter Obi achieved as governor and then use them to counter balance the things he didn't get right:

1. Brought major corporate institutions into the state, including the multi-million dollar SABMiller Brewery plant in Onitsha and local support for the Innoson Motors manufacturing facility.

2. Facilitated the exploration and eventual inclusion of Anambra into Nigeria's community of oil-producing states.

3. Urban Masterplans: Undertook the first comprehensive aerial mapping of Awka and created structural expansion masterplans for Onitsha, Awka, and Nnewi.

3. Road Network Expansion: Constructed and rehabilitated over 800 kilometres of roads, leading the Federal Ministry of Works to rate Anambra as having the best road network in Nigeria at the time.

4. State Secretariat: Built the Jerome Udoji Secretariat Complex in Awka to bring state ministries under a unified, modern facility.

5. Community Policing: Provided more than 500 security patrol vehicles to the police, military, and local vigilante setups, drastically lowering high crime rates.

6. First Teaching Hospital: Built the Chukwuemeka Odumegwu-Ojukwu Teaching Hospital in Awka from scratch, facilitating the accreditation of the state's medical programs.

7. Specialized Infrastructure: Constructed the Joseph Nwilo Heart Centre and established subsidized dialysis, kidney, and cancer treatment units.

8. Global Recognition: Secured a $1 million grant from the Bill & Melinda Gates Foundation for outstanding performance in polio eradication and maternal health initiatives.

9. Mission Schools Return: Handed public-managed mission schools back to their original owners (Churches) while continuing to provide state funding and grants.

10. Performance Surge: Drove Anambra's National Examination ranking from 26th to 1st place in the West African Senior School Certificate Examination (WASSCE).

11. ICT Infrastructure: Procured and distributed over 30,000 computers and set up Microsoft Academies in more than 500 secondary schools.

12. School Logistics: Distributed over 700 buses to secondary schools across the state to ease student and teacher transit.

13. Sub-Sovereign Wealth Savings: Initiated Nigeria’s first state-level sovereign savings scheme, leaving ₦75 billion (including $156 million in foreign currency bonds) in the state coffers for his successor.

14. Debt Transparency: Left Anambra as one of the least indebted states in the country, refusing to borrow or issue bonds during his time in office.

15. Fiscal Responsibility Act: Passed the Fiscal Responsibility Act of 2007 to ensure long-term transparency and eliminate wasteful government expenditure.

16. Cleared Backlogs: Fully cleared a backlog of pensions and gratuities that had been owed to civil servants since 1996.

So what's your problem?

Tjra:
Tell Obi to save his money and stock up his supermarkets. He and Kwankwaso won't get up to 3M votes.

Obi is actually more popular than before

FxMasterz:
Abeg, go and sit down!

Who among the president aspirants have been portraying himself as a clean politician? Even a two year old knows the answer. Tinubu and others simply portray themselves as politicians. That'd all. Only Obi projects himself as a very clean politician who will rescue Nigeria. Who doesn't know the in the country? Please, shut.

You still failed to back up your assertions with clear evidence. Isn't it now obvious that you have been saying a load of nonsense without proof? I asked you to give me examples showing that Tinubu accepted he is a criminal while Peter Obi claimed to be a saint and you failed.

If you accuse Tinubu of looting Lagos state treasury he will deny it. If you accuse him of drug dealing he will deny it. If you accuse him of certificate forgery he will also deny it. Isn't he also trying to be a saint by denying all accusations against him?

Peter Obi is actually a clean politician when compared to Tinubu and a whole lot of other disastrous politicians. So he is not completely wrong if he says he is clean. Even if he portrays himself as a clean politician why should it be a substantial reason not to vote for him and how does it prove he will be a bad leader? Voting for Tinubu who in your words doesn't portray himself as a man of integrity and role model is actually worse than voting for Peter Obi who is promoting positivity in character.

Honestly you have no sensible thing to say to support your argument. You are just looking for ways to defend your emptiness.

FxMasterz:
Are you this low? How's campaign promises the same as self portrayal? Can you tell me that Tinubu portrayed himself to be what he's not like Obi is doing?

Obi is not just making promises. He's making a portrayal. Can't you see, or you want to defend the deceiver by all means?

Can't you separate methodology from personality? Tinubu's method is "I may be bad, I'm not denying that. But vote me, I will do you good". He make any portrayal whatsoever. That's not deceitful, that's just saying vote me if you want. Obi's method is "I'm good (meanwhile he's bad. Very bad), vote me I will rescue you from the hands of the bad". That's deceitful, he' lacks integrity. Can't you see what we're taking about or is this a self inflicted f@@lishness?

Can you show me situational examples that clearly shows that Tinubu is not portraying himself to be a saint while Peter Obi is portraying himself to be a saint? Show me when Tinubu accepted he is not a good person and then show me when Peter Obi claimed that he is a saint.

FxMasterz:
Tinubu presented himself as is. He didn't say, hey, I am the one who will rescue Nigeria from bad leadership. Did he say so? Those who wanted him still voted for him. He never claimed sainthood!

Now, Obi is the one saying he wants to rescue Nigeria from bad leadership when he is a bad leader himself. Tinubu cannot use that mantra because he himself cannot call himself a good leader. That'll be deception. So, he presented himself as is. Obi decided to deceive instead of him to also present himself as is, or go the apology way, and reinvent himself.

This is the reason why I said your responses are dumb and that's the truth. Are you telling me that Tinubu didn't make any campaign promises to be a good a leader and improve the country? He just declared his interest to run for president and "presented himself as is" and people voted for him? How does this nonsense sound to you? I still don't understand what you mean by "sainthood" because Peter Obi himself never said he is a saint. He only promised to make the country better just like Tinubu also did. Please check the link below and see the promises that Tinubu made:
https://punchng.com/manifesto-tinubus-10-promises-to-nigerians/

It's very d*mb of you to be bringing Tinubu into.the matter because Tinubu never claimed himself a Messiah. Atiku never claimed himself a Messiah. If these two people also claim Messiah as Obi is doing, the best strategy for them too is the apology strategy.

Anyone that is running for public office automatically claims to be the Messiah by default. That's what their campaign promises is meant to achieve. They all claim to be a Messiah. Telling me that Obi is claiming to be the Messiah while Tinubu and Atiku are not claiming so is just nonsense.

And i.am still waiting for the result of your d@mb talk "I judge people by their most recent actions". You have still not told me the most recent governance actions Obi has taken that made you trust him. Lol.

When I say I judge people by the their actions I specifically mean the things people say and how they conduct themselves in public. I never mentioned anything about "governance actions" as you phrased it..

Your comments above were really meaningless and I have pointed them out to you but you still wouldn't realize it.

FxMasterz:
Why would Tinubu need an apology when he never portrayed himself as a saint? He only said Enikookan, and that's all. If you like, vote for him, if you like, don't. Obi, on the other hand portrays himself as a saint when his antecedents says otherwise. He should first clear his name. Show remorse before claiming sainthood. Then,vee can say "Perhaps, he has changed". But with his current narratives, he is a deceiver.


Read me with understanding. I didn't use unusual grammar in my texts. Tinubu is not claiming sainthood. Obi is. I didn't support Tinubu because I know him to be correct. But, he became president and hit the ground running. So far so good, I love his policies. I may not like them man but I.like his actions because that's what we need to turn Nigeria around.

Obi should stop portraying himself as a saint. He's not one. He should tell us he wants to be president, that's all. Just as some people voted Tinubu, they'll vote him too. He doesn't have to lie.

What sort of dumb response is this? How does Peter Obi portray himself as a saint while Tinubu is the person who is not portraying himself as a saint? Tinubu has been fighting tooth and nail to defend himself from his drug dealings and his controversial educational background. Isn't he also trying to portray himself as a saint? People normally defend themselves from accusations and that is exactly what Peter Obi and Tinubu has been doing. So telling me Obi is claiming to be a saint while Tinubu doesn't claim to be a saint is just stupid.

Your response now shows you have ran out of ammunition and you have nothing sensible to say anymore. I don't think I would waste my time replying you anymore.

FxMasterz:
I don't see any wisdom in "seeing him as someone who has realized his past mistakes" when he never said he did

He doesn't need to say it because those words mean nothing to me. I pay attention to people's more recent actions to know where they currently stand. If you are waiting for him to say anything then that's your cup tea.

He should first go clear himself, apologize for that his past, then he can tell us how he'll rescue Nigeria. That would be more honorable.

Are you referring to Tinubu or Peter Obi because I am very much confused here. Bola Tinubu is the person that an apology is desperately needed from. His dirty laundry is what makes Peter Obi a saint when you compare both. A drug lord with a controversial background and the corrupt looter and Godfather of Lagos State who milks the state resources. This is the person an apology is really needed from. You should be ashamed of yourself for supporting such a person.

This his lack of integrity in the way he portrays himself is the very red ♥️ flag that makes me say NOT OBI. Such a person who has done no good but portrays himself as the best of all men, is a very dangerous man.

And Tinubu is the one who has integrity? What sort of clowning is this.?

If your name is Tunde or you are directly benefiting from Tinubu government you may say so so I would perfectly understand why you love Tinubu and then I would pardon you.

FxMasterz:
Maybe there's another man out there that can beat Tinubu's record of repositioning Nigeria for greatness. There are, most definitely, but not Obi. Obi does not have the intelligence and the capacity to turn things around like Tinubu is currently doing. Just listen to his speech. He doesn't have that intelligence.

How do you confidently know it is not Obi? Have you seen tomorrow? As long as you haven't seen tomorrow you are not in the position to say it is not Obi. There is a reason why most educated people support Peter Obi. He won Tinubu's home base of Lagos and also Abuja because these places have higher numbers of educated people. Those who support Peter Obi are very much aware of his past. But we see him as someone who has recognized his past failures and wants to make corrections. We see him as someone who has demonstrated the strongest and most convincing intention to fix the problems Nigeria is experiencing. We see him as someone who has the best ideas to make country better. We are not 100% sure but we are placing our bets on him because we believe he will do better. He doesn't need to tell us he feels very sorry for his leadership failures of the past and needs a chance to correct them. We already know he feels this way and we are giving him the benefit of the doubt.

FxMasterz:
AI relies on public data as you said. That is publicly available information. That means, it feeds on all the hypes you guys have spread all over the Internet whenever it crawls. It absorbs them and trains on them, and therefore uses them and parts of its decision making logic.

Tinubu also has people like you "hyping" him on the internet. So why didn't AI choose him as a better leader? AI has analyzed Peter Obi's "hype" and Tinubu's "hype" and still came to the conclusion that Peter Obi is a better leader. That's why I said AI is accurate on this matter. Don't sound like Peter Obi is the only person with a "hype" available for AI to use.

Peter Obi was cursed when he was governor of Anambra. Even right here on Nairaland, he was heavily insulted during his tenure. See proof below.

So Tinubu wasn't cursed when he was governor of Lagos State? And he is still currently being cursed as a disastrous president of Nigeria.

I never said Peter Obi is a saint but what makes me upset about you Tinubu supporters is that you hate Peter Obi but the alternative you are supporting is just worse than Peter Obi.

FxMasterz:
Lol.

It seems you're a novice regarding AI.

I'm an AI Guru. So, you should listen tor. AI has aggregated all your hypes about Peter Obi to make its judgment.

Real humans cursed Peter Obi as governor. Where was AI that time? Obi don't conduct Local Government election until the last year of his tenure. He can't account for all the Local Government funds he collected today.

Tinubu was deprived Local Government funds by the Obasanjo government. Maybe you were still.youjg at the time. In spite of the lack of LG funds, the Local Governments were well maintained and the local authorities didn't feel the heat of Obasanjo's high handedness.

Tell AI these two naked truths above and it'll speak more sense next time.

Your comment shows you are the real AI novice. AI doesn't rely on hype as you put it. It uses the public data available to make its decisions. AI is very accurate in this matter and it actually showed how it arrived at its conclusion. It is never about hype. And why didn't your hyping of Tinubu work to make AI choose him as a better leader?

When Tinubu was governor there are certain things Tinubu did which Lagosians complained about. Both Tinubu and Peter Obi are not perfect but Peter Obi is BETTER than Tinubu and that's fact.

numericalguy:
This is why you lots will always have problems with other parts of Nigeria because this kinds of statements.

Listen to yourself and see how you sound. You are implying that Anyone that didn't vote Obi is not educated

The north is far more educated that the south east because you lots have fake certificates

Most educated persons will choose Peter Obi because they see something interesting about him. Fewer educated persons will vote Tinubu. That's why Peter Obi wins all internet polls. Because educated people dominate the polls. That's the truth.

FxMasterz:
He did his best. His legacies in Lagos are still speaking for him. Meanwhile, he was denied Local Government funding during his tenure. Yet, the Local Governments didn't feel the heat.

Obi on the other hand didn't conduct local government elections until a few months to his handover. He didn't account for all the Local Government funds he collected till today.

Ask the AI platforms to choose between Tinubu and Peter Obi and they will choose Peter Obi. These AI platforms will collect all the public data about both of them, analyze them and make an informed decision.

NinjaMetahuman:
banana island has roughly 4000 residents. Banana island is a very tiny part of lagos.

There are more real more reals estate in every part of lagos owned by millionaires in dollars.

Now how does lagos have 3600 millionares?

So every resident in Banana Island built a mansion?

maddman:
Peter Obi will win online because people wey sabi book full online but for real life Tinubu go win.

Winning a presidential election is not about being the best candidate, there are a lot of dynamics involved

If majority of the masses were educated like those online Peter Obi will easily become president. This means poor education especially in the North is a major reason why Nigeria can't elect good leaders. Poor education is drowning Nigeria and not ust corruption.

FxMasterz:
Did he lead for a better Anambra when he was governor?

Or, why were all Anambrans cursing Obi during his 8 year tenure?

Tinubu governed a state that was already built by the federal government and colonial masters. He was supposed to turn Lagos to New York since he started with a state already built.

NinjaMetahuman:
well duhhh.

You will hardly even see a decent house in banana island that costs less than 700m to 1billion.

Someone living in N700m house is definitely controlling more 1million USD.

And that's just a small part of the city.

So how many people live in Banana Island? Are they more than 3000?

NinjaMetahuman:
Definitely a Fake list.

Abuja and Port hoarcout alone has more millionaires let alone lagos.


Another stat pull from butthole with nice graphics to make it look like it's real.

They mean millionaires in dollar and not naira

OlaOfLagos:
Number 1 on the list of the woman you should never marry.

1. The feminist.She talks about "equality" but really wants control. Every decision becomes a debate. She shames your masculinity, calls it toxic, and turns the home into a constant power struggle.
Sex becomes negotiation instead of passion. Peace is impossible when she sees your natural leadership as oppression. Never marry a woman who fights your role as a man

2. The Single Mother
You will never be her number one priority. The kids and the baby daddy drama will always come first.
You become the financial provider, babysitter, and the bad guy when you try to enforce rules.
Raising another man's children while getting disrespected in your own home is a trap that destroys many good men.

3. The Party Girl
She's fun and exciting in the beginning, but marriage kills her lifestyle. The club nights, attention from other men, and constant craving for validation don't disappear.
Once the honeymoon phase ends, she resents the "boring" home life and starts looking for excitement outside. High body count and zero discipline for building a stable family.

This post Is unnecessary. You can marry a lady that is not in your list the marriage will be chaotic. You can marry a single mother or party girl and the marriage will flourish. The most important thing is the personality of the lady being compatible with marriage. Some good girls may not be good wives.

Chiedu4Trump:
Oga make we break fess and see

See what? You will be like another poverty ravished African country.

Mrexcell:
The hate yorubas have for this guy eh because he has igbo blood no be here oh i wonder how he is managing to cope mentally and forge ahead with his governorship ambition despite all the hate that's been projected at him?

That's not really the main reason. The guy has said and done things in the past that Yorubas found disrespectful. He doesn't even speak the Yoruba language properly. And he once said "he doesn't think in Yoruba".

Ebenezer2021:
your imaginary friend you mean?
Since when igbo mam start to dey make friend with Northerner

Your comment is really dumb.

Nwaikpe:
Yanwang can do that, and yet China cannot produce even one airworthy commercial aircraft by themselves.

Who told you China doesn't manufacture commercial aircrafts? It seems you are still stuck in 1990.

Lithiumite:
In my house,the igbo tenants have been quite pleasant than the Yorubas we have had,I am yoruba and I really don't care where you are from.....but I have seen tenants do really terrible things to their landlords, one practically tore down the pop ceiling in his apartment because he was being forced to leave after owing rent for over a year and I had a personal experience with one enugu woman that always love to pound yam which isn't a problem but doing that on the first floor is unacceptable.

My igbo gfs too have been some of the sweetest beings to ever be with!! Hiya! mabel,frances and cordelia though she is cross rivers! Love yah all

Does it make the building vibrate?

I have been in buildings where the occupants at the floor above pound things but I don't regard the noise level as disturbing.

Diamonddris:
The non virgin women were made so because of iPhone, wigs and social media pressure not men.. They want the kind of monies their fathers never touched in their whole existence

Stupid comment. Men are the ones demanding for sex. And they are always willing to offer ladies land, house, money, phones etc just to get under a lady's skirt.

lovediehatelive:
It's crazy how women keep raising the bar higher and higher for men, the type of men they want while men keep lowering the bar for women.


Something as basic as virginity which should be the least a man should expect from a woman is now seen as asking for too much?


In the past you don't dare say you have a boyfriend but these days a lady with numerous body count would be so bold to display it and expecting a rich handsome disciplined man who earns nothing less than $50M a month.


But would be guilt tripping you for only wanting a girl that hasn't slept with anyone before.

They even go as far as demanding much from a man for a single mother of 3!!!


Wonders!!!

Men need to do better, some keep lowering the bar but right from ages women keep raising the bar!


Back in the days you only need to have a farm to be considered as the ideal man, but as bicycle came it become the new norm.

And today if you have a bicycle no girl will want to look at you, they'll keep broke shaming you, preferring a guy with a car as the ideal man.

They keep raising the bar higher and higher for men to work harder, but they want men to accept less.

Most men aren't even asking for too much, just a decent virgin girl, no house, no car, no fat bank account.

Over the centuries men hardly raised the bar, but women want a man they set very high standard for to marry a lady that the whole neighborhood has pipped, a lady with zero sexual purity, a single mother of 3 or so.




But

It's not possible to have virgins ladies when you and your fellow men are on a sex rampage with women. The non virgin ladies were made so by your fellow men. If you want virgin women then tell your fellow men to stop fvcking around.

Kaczynski:
With the massive funding they acquired, they are still paying chicken change to senior engineers.

What do senior engineers earn?

You should have asked us to check AI ourselves.

mandybabe:
I hate the idea of covering mouth

I don't understand the covering mouth part. Please explain.

fyzaila:
Who said money no dey this country is a big fat liar I swear

Because someone among the 1% wealthy class bought a ₦4.5m engine?

silibaba:
Let me book space should incase this nonsense make fro t page

How did you know the nonsense will reach front page?

Is it City Boy or City Girl?

Chiedu4Trump:
The evidence speaks now.

Imagine what will happen when we get our own country


Na way Nija make Igbos feel.
We are not playing on a level field, yet we excel

Other tribes excel too. What Igbos experience is what other tribes in Nigeria also experience. So there is no such thing as not playing on a level field. You guys like to brag too much.