blueAgent:


So true.
Most of the Russian supporters do not understand Economics, sanctions or even World politics.

lol... I think that Internet quote was right. Our phones keeps getting smarter while humans become dumber

Sufisunni:

Russian gas supply is the biggest single energy supply in Germany. The other 60% comes from different sources, largely renewable energy sources, which is intermittent and unreliable
https://www.washingtonpost.com/world/2018/09/25/trump-accused-germany-becoming-totally-dependent-russian-energy-un-germans-just-smirked/

Great a 2018 report when chances of Russia pipeline being sanctioned has happened like twice in the last 4 years.
SMH

Kokaine:

Its a country we are talking about ooh. Been annexed to a strong country like Russia is different from been ruled by an illiterate terrorist

So you're then in agreement that Borno and its neighboring states should keep being attacked and human lives wasted and destroyed. is that correct?

Wannabenz:


Nah...you actually didn't understand anything I wrote. For example,Visa and master card sanctioned Russia and they switched to China's Union Pay. Russia is still supplying oil and gas to the rest of Europe and the world and even military equipments too. Before the invasion,Biden mentioned these sanctions to Putin yet he carried on. These sanctions are affecting Europe more than it is affecting Russia.

you said China can buy all the services the west buys from Russia thus rendering the sanctions ineffective which is why I pointed out how wrong that analysis is.

now you've brought this other point up? Which western country is Russia selling military gadgets to?
Biden didn't not mentioned the sanctions, he said Russia will be sanctioned and they are. For now it's the Oligarchs that are being heavily sanctioned not Russia itself as a country. They are slowly moving in that direction as the war drags on.
You guys really need to understand what sanctions entails.
Russia only provides 40% of the gas Europe needs, how is 40% bigger than 60% that you're saying Europe is feeling the sanctions more than Russia?

Russia that's Ruble is at an all time low. You know how you guys complain about how useless the Naira purchasing power is, that's how Ruble is right now now yet you say Europe is feeling it more

Kokaine:

Giving them 5 states does not do justice to the course because the number of people who want them is very small. Not all northerners want Islamic rule because it will be badly done.

The boko haram are not representing anyone but themselves. They are a terrorist group that kill muslims and christians alike. They do not want just an islamic rule because they have no knowledge of islam.

The knowledge of shariah it self is lacking in Nigeria where, corruption and poverty will not make it work the way it does in other countries. Shariah is better achieved where tgere is education, good judicial system and wealth that does not give reasons for an ordinary man to commit crimes in order to get his needs.

And when it boomerangs, it will be as bad it was when the Talibans took over Afghanistan.

so now it's no longer about not sacrificing human lives anymore. Other factors have come into play but when it was Ukraine, it was all about human lives, Other things don't matter.

Or is it because Nigeria is too close to home that's why you're seeing things differently?

thesicilian:

It's amazing how you people keep using the term "it's not rocket science" yet your adjoining statements make it seem much more than that to you.

show me your ignorance without showing me your ignorance

Wannabenz:


These guys think sanctions and boycotting would change a thing. China has got equivalent services of every type American goods and services in existence.
These sanctions would just strengthen China's economy

you guys be funny on this platform. You do know trade is an important piece in international relations right?

Who do you think is China largest trading partner at the moment?
So in your opinion, China will dump all her trading partners in order to accommodate just Russia thus isolating herself further and further.

some of you are just good at commenting on Nairaland. you would theoretically run a country or company into the ground

Analyst7:

What yall don't know is that trump is actually smart, he just likes drama
He's the one president I know that avoided alot of senseless war
Obama did worse on that but due to hype u will still think someone like Obama was better

oh! you mean how he almost got US to wage war with Iran and had to be stopped by Pelosi? The same woman you all is always calling the devil but but but Trump avoided a senseless war

Sufisunni:
what about Europe's biggest economy? She relies solid on Russian gas supply

40%.... it's only on nairaland that 40% will now be bigger than 60%

Johnrake69:
Brent crude to $200. The kind of protest that will hit the west won't be a child's play.

you do know Brent crude is US oil right meaning US is making more money the higher it goes

Kokaine:

They will come to regret it especially when Russia takes over Kiev. Those who have fled will need to find permanent residence wherever they are. My concern is in how he will drag the whole world into a global crises by affecting the food and oil supply chain. The prices of things in third world countries will soon skyrocket.
Flour is the first thing I expect to rise. Soon a salary of 500k monthly will not even fees a family of six.

this is what I always thought too. Why is Nigeria fighting boko haram, sacrificing soldiers and creating humanitarian crisis. I mean we have 36 states, just give them the 5 they ask for and everybody coexist peacefully.
That's the adult thing to do right?

thesicilian:

Quick question: why did they not join? Wisdom is profitable to direct.

if only you make use of your Internet abi na free data you dey use.

you can't join if the members rejected your request. It's not rocket science

chronique:


Google is there to help you in case you need to confirm my assertion.

oh! I never knew that. Interesting, so now all those news outlet aren't western propaganda anymore. I guess you guys are the authority figures that get to choose when it's western propaganda and when it's not

go figure

litaninja:
Lol. Why would Airforce 1 prepare defenses like missile radars, chaff and a fighter jet flight it they weren't expecting attacks??

You think Russia for example is fazed by something as mundane as war declarations??

guy just use your Internet at least once. Airforce 1 don't have escorts.

Shey Russia is nuclear proof now abi... Talking like something in kindergarten

baralatie:

I have explained everything to you o!
If you still did not understand!
No problem!
As.for Ukraine they are in a serious mess and this war that they are in (well)
If only zelensky was able to avert it but he could not
So here we are

you haven't explained shit... just changing stuff to suit your narrative

like do you really think you're the only one here with a working Internet connection?

you kept hammering on coup which by the war never happened and yet when I asked which year did the coup happened and which year did zelensky became president, you avoided that like a plague because the answer will shatter everything you just said.

Trying to play smart by half.. lol if I deck you ehn

chronique:


That was just an academic exercise. You clearly heard the leaders of most NATO countries vehemently opposing the idea of a no fly zone over Ukraine and stating clearly that it would bring them in direct conflict with Russia which is something they are all avoiding.

really?

so they are trying avoid conflict with Russia yet the endorsed the resolution?
smh

chronique:


Not correct. Even if the UN approves a no fly zone over Ukraine, no country will try to enforce it. Doing that would amount to drawing NATO and the US into the conflict and it is something they all are avoiding.

why did Russia vetoed the resolution then?

it's like the US going into the second gulf War knowing nothing will happen.
so if Russia like you claim is strong enough to know no country will enforce a no fly zone. why did it vetoed the resolution?

baralatie:

What happens in 2014 in Ukraine?

you keep dodging simple questions... yet you expect me to answer yours

who does that??

baralatie:

Zelensky was not president in 2008 that engineered Ukraine to have a referendum to join NATo.that politician did not win his re election.
The dude uanukuvych won and there was a coup that overthrew that govt
Immediately the country was plagued into a civil war .
That same year Crimea had a referendum to leave Ukraine and there trouble started between Ukraine and Russia.Donetsk also had its referendum and all hell was let loose on Ukrainian soil.
When zelensky won election the first thing he did was to see Putin and zelensky never had that meeting with Putin again.Zelensky now started pursuing NATO membership by force even after France and Germany had intervened
You get where zelensky is a key problem now

you omitted a very important fact in your rush to be clever.
which year did the "coup" happen? which year did Zelensky become President?

Awoleesu:


You tell me what you know... Let's start from there.


That Turkey as a nation is a member of NATO does not mean Erdogan agrees with the US. He has always maintained a frosty relationship with the latter...

I ask you first... since you seems to know a lot.

litaninja:
Lol. And what happens with an attack flight of 4 fighters with their full weapon payloads? How many defender pilots will intercept the missiles?

the way you guys dream of scenarios ehn is very funny.

why would any sane even insane country want to attack Airforce 1?

while others countries only have second use cases for nuclear strike, the US don't rule out preemptive strike or first use case of nuclear weapons.

even being seen as a threat to the plane is regarded as a declaration of war so unless I don't know you don't like your country existence then maybe you can show up on the plane radar fully loaded

Tip101:


Bro, jets follows the Air Force One anywhere and everywhere. Both internationally and locally.

Locally really? Airforce rarely flies locally except for long distance cross country trips. Why would it need fighter escorts?

this is the problem with you guys, a simple Internet search would have solved your problem but no you must double down on your ignorance

Well goodluck with that

baralatie:

The president at that time was Viktor polychenko
Guess what happened next
Ukraine applied to begin a NATO Membership Action Plan (MAP) in 2008. Plans for NATO membership were shelved by Ukraine following the 2010 presidential election in which Viktor Yanukovych, who preferred to keep the country non-aligned, was elected President.

Now scroll down to 2014.

That there was a coup in 2014 overthrowing that govt aided by the west


This war that Ukraine was looking for has arrived

meaning there are two set of Ukrainians, those that want to join the EU and those that don't right?

so why is one called a puppet and the other isn't. Why wasn't the Pro Russian Viktor Yanukovych called Putin puppet?

mind you Zelensky didn't become president in 2014 so how is he a puppet for wanting something better for his people?

Awoleesu:

Erdogan has always been anti-america... Where have you been?

not from what I know. so show me where and where he has been?

NOETHNICITY:
For God's sake he doesn't have to get back into soviet union, all he needs to do is play a balanced politics.
This have been say for 2years now.
That way he stands to benefit from bothsides. Same politics Isreal adopts with Russia and US.

oh jeeez... Nigeria doesn't have to sacrifice its soldiers anymore, we can just benefits from both sides. Give boko haram and the bandits Borno and neighboring states. we'll still have about 30 states left.
everybody wins, no more blood sheds

franciskaine:
Putin for attack Latvia na. Is Latvia or Lithuania not part of the old USSR?

lol... by now there would have been a regime change in Russia.
English for dey compulsory for Russia by now

GUNITGuy:

While alot of people think if you don't support USA it is because they denied you Visa it's just common sense when you find your self between two powerful RIVALS.....Now common sense demands Ukraine should have been neutral ... Intelligence report revealed that Zelensky what's close to signing a deal and a Pact with NATO and E.U ....After all efforts by Putin to reach him fell in deaf hears he tot they would come to his aid.....Th

please show us the intelligence report... oshodi CIA

TrueNigerian300:
The fools shouting hero and bravery here and there. That is a US colonel in the US army saying what we have been saying all long. This is not a matter of Ukraine right to join NATO or not it is a matter of reality. Hear him saying a neutral Ukraine is good for both Russia and the US(NATO). To you fools shouting bravery and heroic so this colonel saying what we have been saying is also a coward Many of you fools have not seen a real war yet you are cheering a foolish president to keep sacrificing his own people.

We said it too that Russia is being lenient but media propaganda that is thinking for you guys think Ukraine is winning.

so the Russian soldiers that are dying aren't people that Putin is sacrificing abi. They are aliens

the way you guys reason needs to be studied to prevent future generations from going down the same path and prolly save humanity

Awoleesu:

Truth is no one really wants to dare Russia!

Putin is heady, but also careful of an alliance of Western Europe and America... I think he was banking on China's support + some anti-US nations like Afghanistan, Turkey etc (although that is not happening now).

So. Like McGregor may have rightly noted, Ukraine is now the "puppet" albeit in the hands of many puppeteers!
The Lords of war on both sides are being tactical whereas Ukrainians are getting the butt...


But, does McGregor's recommendation of "neutralizing Ukraine" on point?

I don't think so...

lol Turkey is now anti US... I'd love to know where you guys get all these info from.

Grandmeister:

Immediately he started calling for a no fly zone the west begin call am mad man lol. A no fly zone means shooting down Russian planes which means automatic world war 3 which means nuclear fallout in the entire world..no warmonger will risk a nuclear warhead coming for his family because of Ukraine..sorry Ukrainians.

if Russia didn't vetoed the UNSC resolution, Ukraine would have a no fly zone by now and there would have been nothing Russia can do

DoggoneDogg:
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For usurping a democratically elected government and acting as the front to a foreign-run rogue regime.

someone that came into power in 2019 through an election unsurp what?

How ignorant can you guys be? Use the Internet for once jeeez

maasoap:
The whole world know except the USA ass lickers on nairaland

was it Zelensky that was President in 2008 when the same Ukraine wanted to join NATO?