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Kingosytex:
You started this rubbish as soon as your god Trump lost the election.

Garden of god
Holiness2000
HolinessForever
Gospelpreacher1
Righteousness2
Righteousness89
are some of the monikers you use in spewing this rubbish. You don't even understand the scripture.

One hand for your government... FBI no do pass this one

pinkygurl:
Oga You are the one whonneeds a brain test.
I am not the one who asked whether those fourteen countries? trade is still possible and if they will accept rubles if it is losing value?
You are the one who forgot the rubles can be converted to their local currency through the mir network unless they stop accepting mir and cut off
The point is only mastercard and visa cut off and 14 countries are still accepting mir cards on the mir network
So since swift is gone, so long as they accept mir, the rubles can be converted to the local currency of the fourteem countries through the mir network

see what I wrote, then see your response. It's not even up to an hour yet.

aunty go rest. if you don't know something shut up and listen. it's not a crime

pinkygurl:
YOU ARE THE IGNORANT ONE HERE
WITH OR WITHOUT SWIFT, AS LONG AS THOSE 14 COUNTRIES ACCEPT MIR, IT MEANS THE RUBLES CAN AUTOMATICALLY BE CONVERTED TO THE EQUIVALENT OF THEIR LOCAL COUNTRY CURRENCY INSTEAD UNLESS THEY SHUT OFF FROM THE MIR NETWORK.

SMH.. you just wrote back what I said and then called me ignorant. Like are you OK? It looks like you need help.

Those 14 countries, are their local currency dollars

Nairaland need to start doing brain test before allowing people on this platform.

Alexrayz:
u talking experience where was experience in Afghanistan baba modern warfare is not as easy as things we see in movie that the truth o ... why not give Russia the go ahead to use every and Bleep the civilians in d city America attack those countries destroying one and 2 they never where able to fully occupy o

what are you talking about Afghanistan. Dude go learn. Within 24hrs the allies already created air superiority in Afghanistan. Deposed the Taliban government within days. Impose a new governing system base on democracy. Pursue the Taliban until they were only in one region.
Completely annihilation would have been considered ethnic genocide because despite everything the Talibans still are Afghans.

Maintain that status quo for 20 years and the Taliban didn't do shit.

Russia has already lost more men in just a few days in Ukraine than America did in 20 years in Afghanistan and you're saying what.

Go read first dude

pinkygurl:
That CONVERSION CANNOT ONLY BE DONE ON SWIFT.
IT IS DONE VIA ANY COMPETENT PAYMENT GATEWAY VISA OR MASTERCARD OR MIR.
Visa atms for visa payment gateway routed on SWIFT and connected to 195 countries. OR
Mastrrcadd for mastercard payment gateway ROUTED ON SWIFT AND CONNECTED TO 195 COUNTRIES
OR MIR PAYMENT GATEWAY ROUTED TO ONLY 14 COUNTRIES WITHOUT SWIFT
Go school small abeg

SMH... Internet there you won't use to help yourself.

There's no way you can convert your currency to dollars with using the SWIFT network.

I hate to dey talk with ignorant people

pinkygurl:
OGA NOR BE FIGHT
Sberbank is there.vtb is there.rossbank is there.
The arguement we are tabling is the guy subtly insinuating/claiming if 14 countries are still on the local.russian network, after swift cuts offf, and mastrrcard and visa shuts off communication with russia servers,,,
The 14 countries are thus automatically cut off and mir card/ payment gateway will cease to work even between russia and 14 countries supporting the mir, thus comnunicating with computrrs/servers on the mir network /payment gateway based in russia

what I was responding to was the person was talking about local currency to dollar conversion. All I said was it's not possible without SWIFT whether MiR is local or not. You can only make dollar conversion on swift network.

you can check my first comment on the issue. that's all I said and he/she was busy writing epistle about 14 countries and what not.

there are other similar networks although none is as big as SWIFT. Ruby to Yuan can be done without SWIFT and few others that may want to accept local to local currency conversion. But what makes SWIFT so powerful and is usually the last resort in economic sanctions is that most countries that you trade with only accept payment in dollars to boost their foreign reserve ans hedge their currency against inflation

pinkygurl:
Read and understand.HAS BANKING SYSTEM SUDDENLY STOPPED OVER NIGHT IN RUSSIA BECAUSE IT WAS CUT OFF FROM SWIFT? [AND BECAUSE VISA AND MASTERCARD HAVE CUT OFF AND BLOCKED THEM? ARE ALL BANKING ACTIVITIES SUDDENLY STOPPED OVERNIGHT?
Read and understand.Russia has its own national/local banking network accepted in fourteen countries F.O.U.R.T.EEN COUNTRIES.
So Visa and mastercard and western world can go to hell for now
You miss the details.Do you understand how computers work??
Smaller conputers are connected to a main computrr callled a server.
The swift system/network is like a MAIN Server connecting/ACCEPTING smaller networks/ local servers from all the 195 countries in the WHOLE world to ease trade.
The russian local server/network working with mir connects to 14 countries which accepts it but to connect with other countries eg usa, not accepting it,
They need to be on swift network/server.
So if swift cuts off, visa cuts off, mastercard cuts off , communication and feedback with the russian network and servers,,,,
The headlines says it is still being supported by 14 countries.
Meaning computers/servers in those fourteen countries are still communicating with the local computers/servers in russiAn network and accepting its mir.
P.S COMMUNICATION ON THE NETWORK IS ONLY 100% CRIPPLED; ON THE DAY THE FOURTEEN COUNTRIES ACCEPTING THE MIR FROM ITS SERVERS IN RUSSIA, DECIDE TO BLOCK THE MIR NETWORK.
IT IS A LOCAL NETWORK THAT BEFORE THE CRISES, its SERVER WAS CONNECTED TO SERVERS IN MORE THAN 14 COUNTRIES

Russia was not cut off yet, few banks in Russia were disconnected from SWIFT. sberbank that was one of the few just pulled out of Europe.

You talked about converting Ruby to Dollars. That conversation can only be done on the SWIFT network. And it's Bank to Bank. if your bank is disconnected from SWIFT there's no magu magu to convert to dollars whether your card is Mir or not that's not the issue. MiR is just a middle man in the process, it works is to make the transaction faster, cheaper and easier. simple.
How else can one explain something so simple

If you don't know, there's no shame in being wrong. We are all humans. How inferior must you guys life be that a correction in a faceless public forum is seen as a taboo or failure or something.

drink water abeg

Alexrayz:
bros let America come invade Nigeria if they can succeed in one month i wonder how u thinking o u expect to carry about 150,000 to cover 40 million people in their country lol even if na stick them dey use e them go still do u something

America will invade Nigeria and unseat Aso Rock in less than a week.
why?

because the turning point for America was Vietnam and Korea...
since then they never go into war alone. Make things easier and faster.
Russia is just now learning that. that's why they are trying to bring Belarus into the war.

Experience is the best teacher and America has years and years of that

BritishNaija:
You said Ukraine was about Having Nuclear weapon right? I now asked you do you know how long it takes to get that, or does Ukraine have the facilities to develop it? Now you broughtin US, do you think Nuclear bomb is a conventional bomb that US will be sharing like bread?.

it's the way these people buys propaganda hook line and sinker but will be accusing others of western propaganda.

Putin is out of moves so he now wants to play the Saddam Hussein card.

Alexrayz:
lol shebi American together with its allies was help to win the Afghanistan war in how many years u think it call of duty they are playing abi have u seen the geological size of Ukraine or population u think Ukraine is a 3rd world country like Vietnam or Iraq or Afghanistan lol or u forget the military hardware been given to them by European countries mind u if Russia want this war to end once forgetting the consequences it world have done dat with full scale invasion with all its military might u see them still doing diplomacy and informing the citizens of thier attack u here saying another thing

excuses excuses excuses

so when you guys were busy shouting Russia will finish Ukraine in 3hrs you didn't know all this abi

Mftivi:
Hitler lost 80% of his men at th easter front. What version of history did you read ? You are not speaking German today because of Russia they saved the world and they lost 1.1 million m men

tell that to Poland that was shared like goat meat after Hitler.

wait who did he share them with again??

Minjim:
The rest of the nuclear world have reasonable and democratic eaders. Putin knows they don't have absolute power like him

Go and check on the people that attack the US. Shey they have Democratic leaders

Moneymagnet24:
Nuclear weapons are the real beasts. Example Satan 2 Ballistic missile could wipe the whole east Africa.

has it been fired before?

na so una been the praise Russian tank and that ish can't even survive a javelin missile.
Their Ka-52 attack helicopter that was praise also can't even defend itself against a stinger missiles

oga make we rest. If them want fire make them fire make everybody getat. Las Las everybody go dey alright

wwwihy:
One thing this war has achieved is exposing Russian forces and Putin as unintelligent, weak, overrated and overhyped. One week after, Ukraine Forces still standing strong and giving Putin bloody noses.

The only thing Russian Forces know is bombing of civilians

that's the funny thing about this when you really reason it.

Their puppets said Russia and Ukraine are brothers so in essence they share similar traits.
They also say Russians are tough people that stand up to the west yet the expected Ukraine that's their brother to be weak?

Some people don't really reason stuff

sapientia:
Russia has been a threat to the world since first world war

If not that Hitler betrayed Stalin in second world war

Thats the people some are wishing the world

one chilled orijin for you.

Stalin would have joined Hitler and Muscolini to convert the whole of Europe to themselves

pinkygurl:
Oga I AM BASED IN RUSSIA
I MAKE PURCHASES ON ALIEXPRESS WITH MY MIR ATM CARD FOR GOODS TAGGED IN DOLLARS
Mir is LOCAL TO RUSSIA
SO EVEN IF WESTERN VISA AND MASTERCARD CUT OFF, AND PACK AWAY,
WE CAN STILL MAKE INTERNATIONAL PURCHASES ON GLOBAL SITES from the 14 14 countries ACCEPTING MIR ATM **if things escalate, russian sites will stop accepting VISA ANDMASTRCARD ATMS FOR PAYMENT TO RETALIATE**
P.S. NOBODY CAN CUT OFF MIR COS IT IS BASED IN RUSSIA TO RIVAL AND COMPETE WITH VISA AND MASTERCARD system.

ANYTHING THE VISA AND MASTERCARD CAN DO,,, THE MIR ATM CARD CAN TOO.
JUST THAT THE WESTERN WORLD WANTS TO STAY UNTOP THAT IS WHY WESTERN SITES ACCEPT MOSTLY VISA AND MASTERCARD.
BUT ALIEEXPRESS and OTHERS ACCEPTS MIR ATM REGULATED IN RUSSIA

Read and understand. Do you collect the card from space or is it not issued by a bank?

something so self explanatory and you miss every details.

smh

pinkygurl:
What are you talking about?
For clarity sake those websites and countries accepting мир mir atm cards charge payments for goods tagged in Dollars $.
So when you type in your mir atm card number, expiration date and Security code on the reverse side, the rubles equibalent of the goods priced in dollar is debited. No matter the exchange rate.even if the ruble is at an all time low or even if 1million rubles equals one dollar.

Eg l am buying a shoe of $15 on aliexpress, once l enter my mir atm card details, the equivalent amount of rubles is debited automatically at the exchange rate for that day, whether ruble is at an all time low or all time high.

Are sure you do know how international transactions work?

MIR has to be backed by a bank, they don't just exist out of thin air to make approve payments.

Using your example. You bank with ABC bank and they issue you an MiR card, once you use that card to make payment, the bank act as a guarantor for you by telling the foreign bank that you're good for the money. The MiR is just a exchange platform that quickens the process by acting as a surety. If your bank is cut off from international payment platform there's no way that transaction is going through.

Before VISA Mastercard and the rest, it usually took weeks for international exchange to be confirmed they just make the process quicker not that they do the actual conversion

Lordedifice1:
All this countries that are sanctioning putin
Putin go just vex send one nuclear bomb to Ukraine and that will be all
So they should leave the sanction alone and have a peace treaty with Putin.
They are just stirring up the beast in him

I don't understand you people. like do you guys just talk for the sake of talking?

So Russia and Putin are now nuclear proof or is it only them that can launch it.

This is how the USSR was behaving, any little thing they threaten nuclear, the day America called their bluff and was ready to go nuclear for nuclear, what happened?
They mellowed and gave in to America's demand of removing missiles from Cuba.

People that make noise too much have been proven by study to be cowards actually.

seunny4lif:
It’s was not Iran that bomb World Trade Center.
All the Terrorists attacked in the Europe and USA, have been done by Sunni Muslims and they all got their training from USA allies in the Middle East Pakistan or Saudi.

so you know the terrorists personally. Bravo!

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leesamyoung:
when he place security guarantee to NATO and US last year, don't they tell no

he did not place, or ask. He demanded as a bully and not a smart man as he is.

You can demand from your subordinate but not your equal.
You can't stand up in a lecture hall and demand everyone keeps quiet except you have some sort of control over them which if we want to correlate would be the US that can do that and even then they hardly do.

You guys need to know history and culture of people. NATO is made up of countries that were once empires and deep down like Russia still have tha proud trait.

You don't demand you negotiate which is what France, Germany and even Britain went all the way to Russia which itself is a sign of respect to ask him to choose diplomacy.
So him choosing brute force is spitting on that respect and that's why he's getting these harsh responses

tipsieoladj:
You no just get sense. Where did u see Putin in a bunker. No b zelenzky dey inside bunker dey do live videos with EU officals.. Putun fears no one.. take it or leave it. Though i hate putin but d man na d biggest terror to America.

biggest terror to America yet the US has 5 times as many allies as Russia. Oh! God, the US is so scared.

optimusprime2:
This war is something that has several grey areas, its not as if Putin is crazy, I mean that guy has been around since 1999 to observe global trends... this is what people don't know or forget quickly.

Russia has a very strong Argument which is why the west aka the EU, UK and USA won't and can't do anything to interfere...

Have people asked this question before; if NATO is so much about maintaining the order within the area, why is Russia not part of NATO?

y'all still ask dumb questions in 2022. You do know that not all European countries are part of NATO right?
Do the hate the other ones that aren't or the hate is just reserved for Russia?

justuschi50:
USA need Ukraine to boost NATO chances against Russia, NATO is not giving Ukraine security by join, is just a stand against Russia.

Who are say I ignore Ukraine and support Russia. When the Ukrainian government have been killing ethnic Russian in eastern Ukraine and refuse to hold a referendum which they agreed the the world say anything, 'NO' up to 14000 people killed in eastern Ukraine just because the Russian majority say they want to join Russia. The west back Ukraine genocide using neo Nazi group

U said something about freedom of association and yet, USA blockade on Cuba is still ongoing till date Cuba is still blockaded nothing from the world.

When Russia attacked the aim was the Ukrainian military but western intervention made the change their tactics

Pls I need u to watched this Graham Phillips in YouTube. There u will see the truth

finally, see I didn't even know you when I said everything you will say is someone's else thought in my first comment.

have you ever researched by Cuba is being sanctioned? The idea that the US is wicked to Cuba suits your narrative so all other info about it are null and void.

quick question why is the AU and ECOWAS sanctioning Mali?

Which war or even small alteration has NATO ever engaged with Russia? that it's now looking for Ukraine to boost its chances?
Chances at what? Let's assume Ukraine joins, so what will now happen?
NATO attacks Russia? an organisation that's defensive at its core to achieve what exactly?
Take over Russia and sent Russians to Venus?

dude do you take time and reason on your own at least for once in your life?

it agitate me when someone that's grown enough to make decisions for themselves fail at simple reasoning. Jeeezz

justuschi50:
did u not read the path I said USA were financing rebel to remove Assad, they did not want to remove Assad directly but indirectly. They went to Syria for Isis but continue funding rebel

guy just rest. Even you at this isn't taking yourself seriously.
so The people in Syria can't decide for themselves and what they want, the US must be there to push them.

I'm surprised you haven't said the US sponsored Arab Spring because to you people can't make decisions by themselves.

The military coups in Africa is sponsored by CIA too. EndSARS was sponsored by CIA too.
The Freedom convoy in Canada was sponsored by the CIA.

The one in Australia too Even the one in the US is sponsored by the CIA

because it's impossible for people to think for themselves except you because when you vote for a particular party in an election and other people vote the same way, you guys aren't sponsored by anybody, you each independently make that decision on your own.

But for others, they must be sponsored by someone.

I'm done reasoning with someone that shallow

tempex88:
Even if Ukrainians are able to stop the Russians, they still cant win this war. I don't know if its lives that is more important or land.

War is never the answer. Fight like a coward, that's the best kind of fight.

Why cant Ukraine play Russia and accept their terms to allow a cease fire. Then they codedly begin to build their arsenal. Putin wont be Russia's president in the next 5 - 20 years and Russia might have a more liberal president after him or a worse person.

As it applies to Russia so it also applies to the USA.

the USA and Russia aren't in the same league. that being said, Putin chose brute force over diplomacy. What the world is doing is a statement so the next guy dies the same thought

justuschi50:
let me reply all this trash you are saying

(A) yes after Iraq lose the war there was need to booster has defence and that was why he had to build weapons. The UN law state every country has the right to self defense right, then y is Iraq exceptional

(B) the Taliban wasn't in power when the USSR invaded. USSR invaded to help it's puppet communist government which was struggling to keep power against the American back uprising. The Taliban was formed in Pakistan after the USSR left and the warlord which is the mujahadin who defeated the USSR turn on each other. The Taliban aim was to bring Afghanistan out control. The mujahadin defeated the USSR not the Taliban. Go and check it. That is y Pakistan has good relationship with the Taliban.

(C) firstly the Arab Spring started in Egypt when a boy burn himself alive as a result of the dictatorship government, when the Arab Spring spread to Syria, rebel took up arms against the government, arms that was supply most by the USA and fought the government. Isis took advantage of the crisis with dem hold American arms , which brought shock wave to the USA . USA had to invade to fought the problem the created. Assad wasn't remove because of Russia when Russia got involve USA had to take measure to avoid clash with Russia

USA containing China they should be ready and u think China is not ready why is China buying up the world seaport. Let me end here

As per your claim the US were in Syria to fight the problem the created (ISIS). Then your sentence you talk about how the US took measure to avoid clash with Russia and that's why Assad wasn't removed.

Are you saying Assad government is part of ISIS?

Just using your own words, do you see how you guys create fictional scenarios that doesn't add up in the end.
If the US was there to fight ISIS, what concerns them with Assad that you first claimed the US was in Syria to remove if Assad isn't ISIS?

SMH... don't worry I blame myself, each and everyone of you are just the same and I never learn my lessons.

justuschi50:
yes they are no missile yet, because they know it will bring back the Cuba missile crisis,It was an agreement.
How will u feel when u are surrounded by your enemies drawing closer to u. When USA requested Russia shutdown it's military bases in Cuba, Russia did not refuse and yet they refuse Russia security demand u do not see the game clearly. Ukraine join NATO is likely going to start a war. Thats y Russia has to attack, and mind u Russia is not there to occupy it only want to demilitarise Ukraine, take out there military capacity.
I seriously don't know y Africans keep following the western world the is why the black man will get no respect. Ethnic Russian are been killed in eastern Ukraine and the west is saying nothing, neo Nazi killing Russian, the west turn blind eye.

first you said the US needed Ukraine to host its missiles to destroy Russia. Now you're saying oh! there are no missiles because it would bring back the Cuba missiles crisis. So why would the US need Ukraine then if it won't host it missiles like you claim? Like do you even hear yourself?

How is the NATO enemy of Russia? How does your enemy become your largest trading partner. i want to kill you but first I'll buy a lot from you to make you money. does that make sense?

Thats y Russia has to attack, and mind u Russia is not there to occupy it only want to demilitarise Ukraine, take out there military capacity.

this is funny. So let me guess, Russia will now invade Ukraine, carry all their weapons and then what, just leave. Ukraine goes back to governing itself or a proxy government will be created? It's always funny how you guys think anybody supporting the West is bias and feeding on propaganda and yet you guys fall for the most insane ones that even a toddler would see through.
If Ukraine goes back to governing itself, they will still seek to join NATO and Russia has killed innocent people for nothing. Create a proxy government and what will those people use to enforce the law? Sticks?

It's funny how you guys blatantly and disrespectfully ignored the Ukrainians and just be like Russia has the right to attack Ukraine.

Let me ask you this simple question? Are you saying you have the right to freedom of association but Ukraine don't? If yes, then i hope you're on your way to North Korea

justuschi50:
pls if Cuba accept Russia nuclear missile how do u think America will react, this is not about sovereignty this is about checkmate of Russia. They know Ukraine is important to the downfall of Russia. Look back at the Cuba missile crisis, or read why America refuse to sell turkey, the fighter it's paid for.

arrrgggh, losing my patience here.

Show us the US missiles in Ukraine? It doesn't exist. Show us US missiles in the Baltic or even Poland that are already part of NATO long before Zelensky became Ukraine president and committed to getting Ukraine into NATO.
Let's paint an hypothetical scenario here - Ukraine isn't part of NATO yet, Poland was since the very beginning when Warsaw pact states were granted membership, but the US was like, nah, Poland is close but I don't want to put missiles there, I want Ukraine. Years go by, the Baltic states finally join NATO, the share border with Russia just like Ukraine, again. the US was like nah, even if the share similar territorial trait with Ukraine, we don't want to put our missiles there. We want Ukraine. The same Ukraine NATO rejected their membership application the first time.

Does that scenario make any sense? Who does that? what exactly is in this Ukraine that only it can host US missiles?

Turkey is a NATO member and as a rule, you're not allowed to buy or create weapon systems or weapons that don't interpolate with other NATO systems and weapons.

Dude, what exactly do you even know, because I don't like stress. Let's start from there

justuschi50:
but which one is worst
America invaded Iraq, saying they won't to destroy weapons of mass destruction.
America invaded Afghanistan to root out the Taliban, but after 20 years the Taliban a back in power.
America attack Libya to remove Gaddafi saying he is a dictator. Look at Libya now.
America attack Syria to remove Assad say he is a dictator, supported terrorist to kill him.
Do u know how many illegal operation the CIA has done. KGB of Russia they learn for evil things wey CIA don do

I bet you don't know anything about anything. Do you know how I can tell, I've seen a lot of you guys on this forum, just see someone say something that suits your narrative. You don't research on it. You just swallow hook line and sinker. Then start spreading the same falsehood as facts and will defend it till your last breath.
That being said, I'm in a good mood, work went well today so I'll bite.

A) It's Saddam Hussein after losing the first Gulf War that was boasting of possessing such a weapon. Yeah, the US never lied that they wanted to dispose of him, he ignorantly gave them the reason to. But I bet 100% of you that always bring up Iraq never knew that.

B) The taliban are good people yeah? so did the USSR first try to dispose of their government? That one isn't on your radar I guess. Why is the Taliban proscribed in Russia since they are such a model set of people?

C) I don't know how you guys have Internet but can't make use of it, the US wasn't in Syria to dispose of Assad, if they mean Assad, he wouldn't have been there by now. They went to Syria to dismantle the ISIS that took advantage of the Syrian civil war which started around the same time as Arab spring to carve out a portion Syria for themselves. Their operation extended even to Iraq, Libya and West Africa.
Turkey is the country that wants Assad out, they are the ones that were fighting Assad government


Lastly and I hope you don't engage in normal nairaland practice of doubling down on something even when you're wrong, read the comment you quoted again. I said and it's a fact, the US don't go about lying about their intentions.
Right now, you know the US want to contain China, guess how you knew that, yup the same US told you and the whole world.

omenkaLives:
I hate it when punks quote me.

The title says CONFUSION HITS RUSSIAN TROOPS....

The point is, the article is telling the reader, they're "confused", because Google map has been disabled. And my comment says that's laughable.

Now, go screw someone else, I'm not gay.

Bye.

you're even dumber than I expected. that's click bait from Vanguard. Same way YouTube channels write one headline and the video is about something else.

You fell for a click bait and you're proud of it. Damn! you should be awarded for that.

justuschi50:
Nigeria pls stop supporting the west, the west is the problem of this crisis if they accepted Russia security demand this war wouldn't has started. The west keep supporting neo nazi group to fight Russia, ethnic Russian are been killed, by Ukrainian and the west turn blind eye. Just like Igbos are been killed yet no western reply.

why should Russia dictate terms for a bloc of nations that are similar standing with it when it's not even part of the bloc.
NATO has an open policy, any European country is free to join, so because of Russia, they'll now be like, every European country is free to join except Ukraine because Russia said so. can you actually imagine what that would do to the association, the doubt and divide it would have created among member states?

Can you right now, write a letter to the Nigerian Army and demand they don't accept your brother's application to join them. Army personnel you're not, you're dictating for the Army.

lexy2014:
How is what Putin is doing any worse than what the US/UK did in Iraq and what NATO did in Libya?

Well they don't lie and lie and lie about their intentions.

I can remember your moniker vividly, you were one of those few months ago when Russia was building up forces on its border and the US intelligence said that was pretext for an invasion. You and the others were saying Russia doesn't want war, that they have the right to move soldiers in their territory. That the intelligence is western propaganda.

After that, the US Intelligence again warned and even predicted how the invasion will happen. False flag before the actual invasion.
what was Russia response? They posted a video of a few tanks turning back and said they were returning back to base. You guys again jumped on it and keep hammering western propaganda. US and the west are war mongers.

Even when France and Germany went to Russia to plead with Putin to choose diplomacy. After all the lies of not posturing for a war, just an exercise with Belarus, what did he choose to do in the end?

INVADE A SOVEREIGN STATE .

so yeah, his lies is what is getting everybody united against Russia.
want to invade, do it with your full chest, not duct behind lies like a coward