₦airaland Forum

MEEVEET:
Can your country afford it?
Does your country have the technical know how?

Can your country afford it?
Ans=Absolutely and we have it already.

Does your country have the technical know how

Ans:Yes because unlike you real time monitoring and surveillance looks like rocket science to you however we crossed that bridge already.

MEEVEET:
Your GDP under Abacha was 50 something billion dollars so what exactly are you talking about

Your country is broke and poor.. Your GDP is less than 20 states in America new York GDP is over 20 times ours California 40 times ours

Oh well I guess you missed the memo when the TRACON (total radar coverage of Nigeria) project was launched about a decade ago,having radar coverage isn't rocket science and very affordable for a country like Nigeria, Nigeria is broke however richer than several other countries in the comitee of nations,how effectively the radar is been utilized is what I cannot ascertain but Nigeria had radar coverage.....besides the radar Nigeria can deploy thermal imagery drones over security flashpoint which can pinpoint movement and activities of bandits and other criminals through their body heat.....this is very affordable even for a local government area if they are serious with the will power to end insurgency, remember when there is a will there is a way.

andy244:
You are invariably saying an ex convict in America is not an ex convict in Nigeria. Sense is very far from anyone defending impunity.

I'm against sexual harassment however your narrative is flawed

Firstly there is a difference between a civil case and a criminal case,the senator in questions was allegedly disbarred from NY which is a civil case,he can most likely practice in another state even in the same US.

An ex convict in the US under the eyes of the Nigerian law cannot be an ex convict in Nigeria if he has committed no crime.

Morally you could have a point but under the eyes of the law he is crime free under the jurisdiction of the law where he resides now until proven otherwise.

aswani:
You guys are wasting your time on that poster sadly. But I am enjoying your information though, good work.

Here is a news on NL where the same Isara he is referring to was addressed as Isara-Remo and I’m not the original post of the topic,it’s general knowledge he is only trying to be clever by half.

tollyboy5:
You can't be knowledgeable than people from culture forum.
You're just ranting here

Any fool can spew any gibberish they deem fit on the culture forum,they are not the gatekeepers of cultural knowledge except they can prove to me they are certified historians.

tollyboy5:
Why do they call Kensington adebutu Baba ijebu?

Kesington is from Iperu Remo however Remo indigenes also speak a dialect of Jebu so to an uninformed person like you he speaks like an Ijebu so he is Ijebu however he is actually Remo.

Is Dapo Abiodun an Ijebu man?

tollyboy5:
There's nothing like ethics lagosian. We refer to ourselves by our town.
You're viewing it as an outsider.
I'll say Omo Epe nimi, Epe alaro. Omo island ni Eni bayi. Awon Omo Badagry lawon eleyi.
And awori from Ojo will say Omo Ojo nimi.
There's nothing like ethnic lagosian. You're just inventing nonsense!

There are ethnic Lagosians who are referred to as omo Eko because they are originally from Eko which is also a town inside Lagos state for example they will say omo isale Eko ni eni bayi.

tollyboy5:
Yes youve dine with alot of egba people doesn't prove you know anything lol

I have run things with influential people from all over Ogun state and Nigeria in general so I know something contrary to your expectations.

tollyboy5:
You don't want to ask because ignorance is a bliss.. don't worry. I already mentioned strong historian from Remo who is also married to Remo.
Let her come and answer if Remo people on day to day activities identify as ijebu.

Just calm down Na 😂😂😂😂😂

Cc: orisa17

Balogunodua

Oh well bring them on and be my guest and I really hope they have something between their ears unlike you,it would be a torture for me to deal with 2 ignorant dolts pls.

tollyboy5:
I don't know why you're getting confused. Have you seen any Epe person claiming to be from Eko?
Lagos State in every sense is different from Eko.
That is why we have minority Eko Epes who came with kosoko to Epe.
Epe is not under Eko.
Epe is under Lagos State.
Don't get it twisted, Epe is too big to under a tiny local government.
Concerning the Remo and ijebu affiliate I don't have anything to say to you until. You bring in one Remo person that will deny he or she is not ijebu.

You are the confused one,Epe is predominantly Ijebu ethnicity.
I never said Epe is under Eko,like I have said over and over Epe can’t not be referred to as actual ethnic Lagosians omo eko
Epe is so small that one local government in Oyo state Lagelu is bigger than Epe as a whole so your narrative that Epe can’t be under one local government is nothing but a figment of your ignorant imagination.
No sane Remo person will claim to be an Ijebu the same way no sane Egba person will claim to be from Yewa.

tollyboy5:
Bro If you're ready to bet. Let's ask 10 Remo people on this forum if they're ijebu?

I wouldn’t blame you tho because this is a faceless forum,if not you wouldn’t even dare bet with me to ask anyone such a silly question,I don’t need to ask because I’m not an ignorant dolt like you.I know already that you are so wrong,however I wonder, can anyone be actually be this ignorant and gullible or you just trying to play clever by half to defend your fallacies?

[quote author=tollyboy5 post=134414461][/quote]The problem with people like you is trying to defend your gaffes and false narratives makes you sound like an ignorant dolt,from my write up you should have noticed that I know Ogun State so well and I have probably wined and dined with more influential people from their than you ever possibly will,I’m too smart for a Buffon like you to lead on with false narratives,bring it on,I will debunk your lies and take you to the cleaners while at it,can u even imagine……Ijebu Shagamu 😂😂,you are nothing but a clown from Igbo obo(forest of apes)

tollyboy5:
Everybody has their own account on how they came to Epe. No one history is superior to the other.
My ancestors came to Epe to meet two of his brothers who were also son of maybe 16th awujale orso.
We call it Oko Epe. Those other account can't discredit ours. My ex girlfriend is a native of isara. I live in this town for two years bro!
Stop telling me what I know.
Mummy bolugi from iperu.
Lol I have one woman who is my friend when we first met she said she's ijebu shagamu.
If you say Remo don't see themselves as ijebu then I'll put it to you that you've never met any Remo natives and ask this simple question from them.
Oba of Lagos is not a king over Epe territory and we see him another small king on the island that's all.
The paramount ruler of ijebu people is awujale.
Awujale Is to ijebu people what Oni is to other Yoruba group

😂😂😂 Ijebu Shagamu😁😁😁😁 well it’s a faceless forum sha,Wetin Musa no go see for gate,this one should be in the jokes section because no sane Shagamu indigene will refer to herself to be from Ijebu Shagamu,same way you won’t likely say you are from Egba Epe because nothing of such exists,Shagamu is the HQ of Remoland same way Ijebu Ode is the HQ of Ijebu land,it’s either she is lying to you because you seem like a very gullible guy to her or perhaps you are lying to yourself because I know too well there is nothing like Ijebu Shagamu,there even Epe Shagamu inside Shagamu,I’m not disputing the history of Igbo Obo (Epe) and like I said earlier and u reiterated Epe was never under the ruler ship of the Eleko of Eko so you guys are Ijebus and are only referred to as Lagosians due to state creation that made your side of Epe fall under Lagos state so basically you guys are not indigenous Eko.

Anyway thanks for cracking me up with your infantile hoax of trying to do attaché by force with Remo,it’s needless trying to defend the indefensible with me because I know better,you are one funny dude sha,Mummy Bolugi kor Mummy Bolekaja ni😂

tollyboy5:
Ok I agree with you. Remo has a different root from ijebu originally.
I think they might have identified as ijebu during the glory days or ijebu kingdom.
The dialect and very similar. But ijebu Epe people are 100% ijebu people speaking the original ijebu dialect.
I believe alot of intermarriage would have happened between Remo and ijebu for Remo to identify as ijebu.
When I was In isara then my landlord will always tease me that I'm ijebu like them I should stop claiming Epe is Lagos.
So the strong identification must have been because of a dominant ijebu population in Remo.
Ijebu people are territorial so they go far places and claim territories. Today Remo people identify as ijebu.

There an argument between me and one ijebu lady here some years ago.
She keep insisting ijebu are also from Ife because she's Remo and I chose the Awujale narrative that ijebu are from waddai present day Sudan.

No doubt Remo is different from Ijebu,even tho the dialect is similar,Ijebu is close to Remo so there will definitely be some migration of Jebus to Remo and vice versa and like I said earlier Epe are 100% Ijebus no doubt that’s why I said the saros of Eko refer to them as second class Lagos citizens cos they were not under the rule of the Eleko of Eko now known as Oba of Lagos prior to the establishment of Lagos state,like I guessed it was an isolated case of your landlady who might be Ijebu but in general Isara people are Remo 100%,yes the Remo people actually from the Iremo quarters in Ile-Ife and I would also rather go with the Awujale narrative of Wadai however I’m open to be corrected if presented with empirical facts that state otherwise.

tollyboy5:
I lived in isara. I did not call them ijebu. They call themselves ijebu.
I'm from Epe and Epe is not called ijebu-Epe. But we ijebu call it ijebu Epe.
Conversation between two ijebu people is the different from how you outsiders see it.
When ijebu person is returning to Epe for Salah he'll say Mo n lo si ijebu.
Epe is a stronghold of ijebu ode. Ibeju is also ijebu but you don't see ijebu prefix.
And who told you it a must to have an official ijebu prefix to be from an ijebu town lol 😂 😂 😂 😂

That's not how it works. The native land owner on that land will determine what town dialect they speak.
It doesn't matter if the town don't have ijebu prefix

I never said it’s a must for an Ijebu town to have an Ijebu prefix before it can be recognized as Ijebu,Ago Iwoye for example is an Ijebu town without an Ijebu prefix however it would be foolhardy for indigenous isara people to call themselves Ijebus when they are clearly not,it’s either an isolated case of an Ijebu indigene in Isara or it’s a hoax and I won’t be surprised if it’s the latter,Epe is known as Ijebu Epe to non indigenes it is actually called Igbo obo(forest of apes)by real Ijebu indigenes,oh so you are actually a native from the forest of Apes(Igbo obo)how’s life treating you over there 😂😂

tollyboy5:
Ok tell me the name of the Epe community that is in Ogun State since you know Epe more than I do.
Even tho lived around the borders of Epe and Ogun State in mojoda axis.

I can’t recall the name right now because it’s just an inconsequential small village i drive through years ago when traveling for business,I might remember later if that happens will edit and add it however I’m very sure it’s an Epe settlement on the Ogun State side

tollyboy5:
I schooled in Remo. Just go to isara (Wole Soyinka home town) or sagamu and tell them they're not ijebu.
You might receive a resounding slap from them lol.
People I lived with?
Lol

Ijebu brag with enough receipts

All this places you mentioned I know it too well,the town isara is even called isara-Remo same with iperu it’s called iperu Remo,they are Remos and not Ijebus,going by your narrative you mean Wole Soyinka is Ijebu…..it’s just like saying Ayetoro is Egba because it is close to Abeokuta when infact the town is called Ayetoro yewa,if they are Ijebus then it should be called iperu Ijebu and not iperu Remo,……iperu,isara,ilisan,sagamu are all Remo towns and even tho they might be close to Ijebu are actually not Ijebus,infact the paramount ruler of Remo land is the Akarigbo while the paramour ruler of Ijebu is the Awujale,they are totally different perhaps if u can prove to me that Sagamu is under the Awujale,all this bragging with receipts is a means to what end….nothing but just vainglorious feelings.

tollyboy5:
Base on this discussion. On regarding population of Muslim Epe is not tiny. There's are Eko epes. Eko people who settled in Epe does make Epe tiny.
There's no part of Epe that is Ogun State. I see people displaying ignorance with pride.

Bro there is even a road from Ijebu Ode axis that links down to Epe yet you claim there is no part of Epe that is in Ogun state….1 local government in Ibadan Lagelu is bigger than the whole of Epe end to end however you are free to believe Epe is bigger than California if that makes you sleep better at night.

tollyboy5:
Google is free. Almighty ijebu covers Ikorodu,Epe, Remo(sagamu,ode,ipara,isara,iperu) from Lagos Ibadan express way to the borders of Ondo State down to ijebu water side close to the ocean.
When ijebu produce Mike Adenuga, folorunsho alakija, otedola. Even Nigeria founding father Awolowo.
You should know ijebu is more than mighty

I thought this bragging was the exclusive right of ibos,I never knew Ijebu people could be so vain….Remo is Remo,how come u doing attaché by force to feel relevant,Ogun state is divided into 4 Remo,Ijebu,Yewa and Egba so even tho they are your brothers they are totally different from the Ijebus,the whole of Ijebu from end to end is still not as big as Ibadan,if Ijebu is mighty what do you want Ibadan folks to call themselves?

tollyboy5:
Who is talking about Lagos or no Lagos.
Half of present day Lagos belongs to ijebu kingdom.
Nobody asked you for history

What does that have to do with your narrative that indigenous Muslims have a higher population than the Christian’s,or does that also mean the majority of Ijebus are Muslims,and where does your almighty Ijebu Kingdom start from and where does it end in Lagos?

tollyboy5:
You're saying trash. The ijebu settlement in Epe predates the awori settlement in Lagos Island.
Every ijebu identify as ijebu and refer to Lagos as Lagos. That is how it is and we saw our grandparents say it.
Identify as ijebu is different from identifying as Ogun State.
Ikorodu is ethnically ijebu from Remo also. All part of ancient ijebu kingdom.

Let me break it down for you in the most elementary way that can be assimilated into your brain.

Before the creation of States there was the Oyo kingdom and Oyo town,ethically a man from Oke Iho is an Ibarapa man and not an indigenous Oyo native,however after the creation of Oyo state both the man from Saki and a man from Ibadan and a man from Ogbomosho can be referred to as an indigene of Oyo state,before the creation of Lagos state there was the town on Eko also known as Lagos inhabited by the Saro and Aworis,these people are the native Lagosians,however by the creation of Lagos state some parts of Epe became part of Lagos state,Are Epe indigenes Lagosians,absolutely however Epe people are not the original Omo Eko,if you still don’t understand after this breaking down to your level of understanding then I’m sorry I can’t help you,your case is different.

tollyboy5:
Tiny Epe you say? 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣

Epe and Ikorodu are ethnically ijebu. Half of Lagos is ijebu territory currently and historically.
Lagos map by IBILE division

Stop trying to be clever by half,there is Eko Epe and Ijebu Epe and the topic here is about Eko Epe which is tiny,Lagelu Local government in Ibadan is bigger than the whole of Epe both on the Ijebu and Eko side,for small minded folks like you I understand it’s a big place to you,but in the larger scheme of things it’s tiny.

tollyboy5:
You're the one that have arithmetic problem. It seems you're mistaking percentage for actual figure.
Because I don't know how 90% as you say of a tiny population equates 65% of a larger population. 90% in addition to the larger stat might give 60% Muslim and 40% Christian.
You need to return to your math teacher

You basically have comprehension issues because your narrative that the saro have a minority population in Lagos is baseless,like I said let’s pretend it’s true and we go by that then the Christian’s still have a larger or equal population based on the % figures of 65/35 of the other ethnic groups,except you can prove the ijebus and aworis are double the population of the saros which is false.

After the abolition of slave trade and the saros returned they were so many that the Lagos island became congested that many saro population were forced to move to Abeokuta,yet you think the same tiny Epe that we all know has more population than the saros………dey play.

tollyboy5:
The person talking about saro is not Yoruba like and have no heritage In Lagos.

Not only that you're a f@@l, you even have some other problem. Maybe compression problem or eye problem. Because I have never mentioned ijebu-ode from beginning of my post not until I talked about awujale when necessary.
You should be using your surname as moniker so your unborn generation will bear witnesses of your f@@lishness

Oh you found out the person talking about Saro is not Yoruba with the crystal ball in your room right?

Funny enough the saros and other indigenous Lagosians don’t even consider Epe natives as pure Lagosians,Epe is ethnically Ijebu,it’s just the creation of states that made some part of Epe to be included in Lagos state,imagine a second class Ijebu Epe boy claiming someone doesn’t have heritage in Lagos,wonders shall never end…….even till date some Epe natives that form part of Lagos refuse to be addressed as Lagosians but rather Ijebus from Ogun State,if you are a true son of the soil in Epe then you will know this is the gospel truth.

tollyboy5:
Saro are minority ethnic by population and land mass together compared to ijebu, awori and Ogu of Badagry.

Let’s just pretend that you are right about saro been a minority population(which is false)however the majority of them are Christian’s(say 90%),if we throw them in the mix of the overall population of the ijebus and aworis who also have a sizeable Christian population (65% Muslims and 35% Christian’s) according to your fabricated data,does that not negate your fallacy of Muslims having the highest indigenous population in Lagos if ratio and arithmetics isn’t too complicated for your brains to figure out?

Eniitankorede:
Education is under state control, they can also fix their term holidays for ramadam if they wish. Why must holidays be located around Christmas and easter alone? Don’t you think that not everyone is a Christian in Nigeria?

Unfortunately Ramadan doesn’t have a fixed date or month,so you would rather want the state government to keep changing the school calendar annually just to accommodate Ramadan,what about Lent,or don’t Christian’s also deserve holiday during the fasting period,what about traditional religious festivals,do not not also deserve holidays,the earlier you know the world doesn’t revolve around the activities of Muslims alone the better for your brain.

RightChannel:
Ahahahaha Mr Ijebu the Lagosian, you must tell us the internet and Al that shows Ijebu as part of Lagos State.

You are a disgrace to your generation, had it been you know the person you are talking to, you won't be forming to know Lagos State you this empty barrel. Get the fvck off!

Ijebus as a tribe occupy both Lagos and Ogun State same with Aworis...so he has a point on that,however the saros who are slave trade returnees are majority christians,and even in Epe there are so many christians,as for the Aworis,I don't think we have any other tribe that has as much white garment christians as the Aworis,maybe the oshodin tapa has a large Muslim population and that's about it because even the Badagry natives have a large christian population so I wonder where he got his own data from, probably pulled right from his hairy a**

tollyboy5:
Stop dreaming. I'm an indigene. I know Lagos more than you can imagine.
My cousins are aworis, from Lagos west to Lagos east. Most natives are Muslim.
Stop telling me what I know and see everyday from my childhood.
How many indigene do you come across on a daily basis to start countering me?
Do you have families that are awori,egun or ijebu,saro, Eko Epe etc?

The Saro people we all know are majority christians,and of course there is also a sizeable christian population in the same Epe,Ambode is from Epe and a Christian,otedola is also from Epe and a Christian as well as many other not so prominent Epe natives so your narrative is fables made up in your head

tollyboy5:
I'm taking of the natives. Not general population if you don't know lagos natives then that's another thing.
Lagosian are more of Islam

Going by your narrative Lagos natives are traditional religion worshippers because both Islam and Christianity were not indigenous native religions, however I get what you mean but u are also been clever by half because the so called Lagos indigines consist of a large number of slave trade returnees called saro who are christians.

Eniitankorede:
Okay thats their own first term holiday. If you choose to put their term holiday around Christmas, we put our own term holiday around Ramadan. Whats your problem in that?

The first time break that falls during Christmas is fixed based on schools curriculum that is approved by the ministry of education,it has nothing to do with Christmas,the Xmas holiday is just for 2 days ,Xmas has a fixed date of Dec 25th,so that's why it's almost constant that the first term break falls during the Xmas period,Ramadan on the other hand has no fixed date or month in a year,we can't always temper with the school curriculum annually to make holidays for Ramadan,if for example Ramadan falls during the waec season will you advocate for a total closure of schools thereby alienating millions of school kids from the first school leaving certificate exams?

Lanre1st:
What will Muslims in UK do?

When businesses close in December, what did they do? On Sundays there is rest to go to church while they work Fridays, what did they do

Firstly businesses don't close in December anywhere in the UK,there is a difference between school vacation and businesses closing,Sundays been a rest day isn't a Christian thing,rather it's the roman calender been widely used globally,even Islamic countries like the UAE had to adopt this calender for better global integration,and of course Muslim in the UK would protest like they always do when they don't have their way if schools were closed during the Lenten season,Its illogical and counter productive.

Lanre1st:
When Jesus fast for 40days nobody knows? There is voluntary fasting and there is obligatory, voluntary is private while obligatory is general so no hidden things there

Jesus fasted for 40 days at his time and terms,he didn't admonish anyone to join him in fasting it was a personal thing.

I believe there should be no obligation to fasting,will someone with ulcer be obligated to fast because you are fasting,fasting is personal,it has to do with you and the God you believe in alone.