kayfra:


Atiku is a Nigerian 100%. But that isn't the argument doofus!

Is a Nigerian by birth is the question.

Yes he is a Nigerian by birth because he was born in Jada in 1946,Jada happens to be a mandate called British Cameroons under the the British colonial Nigerian government as Jada was governed from Lagos.

schoolboij:


Mr know-it-all. Why do they need a referendum to join Nigeria if they have always been part of Nigeria?

In British Cameroons the major question was whether to remain with the colony Nigeria or to unite with the newly independent Republic of Cameroon because Nigeria was yet to be an independent state In a UN-supervised plebiscite in February 1961, the south decided to unite with the former French Cameroun, creating the Federal Republic of Cameroon. The north voted to join the Federation of Nigeria.

In other words French Cameroon gained independence to Cameroon in Jan 1960 before British Cameroon to Nigeria in Oct 1960 therefore indigenous people of British Cameroons had a right to choose if they wanted to continue as a British colony or would rather join a newly formed Cameroon because they had an agreement under a treaty called League of mandate nations.

netpro:
It is a very good thing that for the first time since Independence, this is the first time this matter will be challenged in court. OBJ complained severally about Atiku on Bakassi and other sketchy undertones about his roots. Now it can be legally resolve.

Here are some of the already unraveled truths:
1. Atiku's hometown Jada in Ganye was in Northern Cameroon.
2. This area was never part of Nigeria until the February 1961 plebiscite when they voted to join Nigeria.
3. The Nigeria's constitution specifically stated a candidate for President must be natural born Nigerian.
4. Atiku was not born a Nigerian.

Atiku and the PDP cannot just wave this aside. The court up till Supreme Court will have to make pronouncement on this matter. An Alien can't just come and rule Nigeria.

Atiku wants to go to court right, he can remain there.

Here are my questions for you,


(1)There was no such country as Cameroon until 1960,Atiku was born in Jada in 1946,how then can we claim Atiku was from a, country that was not on the world map when he was born, or should we just conclude that he was stateless at birth?

(2)If this area was not part of Nigeria as at 1961 how come Cameroonians are now voting to join Nigeria if yes what would be the reason for a country to vote to join another country entirely,does it make any sense to u?

(3)What is your definition of born in Nigeria,Atiku grandfather is said to be from Sokoto and he was born in Jada before the existence of Cameroon?

(4)If Atiku was not born in Nigeria kindly highlight the, name of the country he was born?

schoolboij:


Read what I responded to and see if it made any sense.

If they were part of Nigeria at independent, why was referendum conducted again in 1961?if it was part of Nigeria why does it need to be called British cameroun? Why not just Nigeria? I think you need a crash course in logic. You don't make any sense. Besides, you are the only one saying this even premium times just corroborated it.

Premium times is wrong and u can take that to the bank, prior to 1914 Jada was southern Nigerian protectorate,by 1916 during the 1st World War British Forces waged war against against the German colony of Kamerun and took over thus all of Kamerun became a British colony under Nigeria, in 1922 the French and British decided to to split their colonies French Cameroun and British Cameroons,British Cameroons was also a British colony under Nigeria.

In 1960 Jan French Cameroon gained independence while the colony of Nigeria and British Cameroons was to gain Independence in Oct, what would then happen to British Cameroons,therefore they decided to allow indigenous people of British Cameroons who would rather prefer allegiance to the new country Cameroon than be under the British Nigeria colony to vote in the spirit of fairness and equity.

So to answer your question Jada was never a territory or colony of present day Cameroon and has been a Nigerian territory as at Oct 1 1960.

I hope I have made myself clear?

schoolboij:

I don't understand that.

Sigh.... what manner of Lil jackrabbits do we have on NL lately that can comprehend elementary sentences.

Let me help your ministry, Jada was 100% Nigerian soil as at Independence because British Cameroons was a mandate of British colony of Nigeria who just gained independence from Britain,i hope this is easy peasey for u to comprehend.

GavelSlam:


The one thing about me is I'll never be the instigator, but never take me down that path because you'll regret it.

To the issue of paymaster, I'll call it an old worn out line. I definitely earn more than a senator legitimately earns, so be more creative.

How wonderful,so an ignorant oaf like u can, even earn more than a senator, only in Nigeria,i guess it's stand up comedy because the only thing u can offer is uncouth language with a bit of hilarious ignorance.

schoolboij:


When Nigeria became independent in 1960. Was Jada part of Nigeria?

Absolutely if not there would have been no reason for referendum in 1963 anyway.

NgeneUkwenu:
At this rate, Ohamadike Kanu, will be called to give evidence in court.

At this rate you will also have a hard time to prove to us how Jada became Cameroon,was it ever a French colony, or perhaps was it ever a Cameroonian colony or territory because the last time I checked there was no such country called Cameroon when Atiku was born.

GavelSlam:


You had your father as a case study on the matter.

Oh, I forgot mom's boyfriend.

Oh really so u have been reduced to such an uncouth and ignorant savage that cant engage in a meaningful conversation trying to defend the foolishness of your paymasters,isnt God just wonderful?

schoolboij:


What are you saying? Cameroun became independent in 1956. Just like Nigeria became independent in 1960. But before becoming independent, there has always been Nigeria. There's been cameroun before 1956.

Unfortunately there was no Nigeria before 1954,what we had was a colony and protectorate of Nigeria and it's a totally different entity from Nigeria because it has a, different flag, coat of arms and national anthem from present day Nigeria subsequently there was also no Cameroun until 1956 and it was formerly called French cameroun which is also a totally different entity from present day Cameroon as it had a totally different flag,coat of arms and national anthem,i hope I have my myself clear

Toks2008:


I can see you understand the use of grammar but I'm also amazed at the same time that you lack comprehensive ability


The fact that his citizenship was not contested when atiku served as a vp or custom head does not mean that it can't be contested now.

Anyone contesting for the number one seat must be A NIGERIAN BORN.

Did you catch That? Atiku at the time of his birth was not A NIGERIAN BORN and the fact that the part of cameroun was latter merged to Nigeria does not cancel the fact that at the time of his birth, he was born a Camerounian.

I have read stupid posts from funny people on this thread who think it is a comical case but it is not.

Even Obasanjo and Atiku know this is a strong case against him.

Unfortunately you don't have any ability what so ever than to take whatever your paymasters say as the gospel truth since u have decided to be clowns and useful idiots.

Jada was never a part of Cameroon,Jada was formally a British Cameroons mandate under the colony of Nigeria,it has never been or ever will be Cameroonian territory so as its people,it had always been an, undisputed Nigerian territory and it's visible to the bling and audible to the deaf.

It is totally beyond me that a political party is making a futile attempt to rewrite the history on Nigeria while dunderheads like u act as cheerleaders.

GavelSlam:
By now Atiku would be questioning those that prodded him into instituting his lousy law case.

In any case, I don't even know why he's reluctant to admit his Cameounian roots.

So you mean you still haven't given up on this your illogical Cameroonian allegation,after all the lecture I gave u for free yesterday, your case is indeed irredeemable.

Who do sane people(perhaps insane in your case) choose to be clowns and useful idiots for whatever reason is beyond me

vacanci:


We are still laughing

Why am I not surprised y'all are clown and useful idiots anyway.

NgeneUkwenu:
So which one did Atiku and His Jada People fall into?

Before or After Independence?

Atiku are his Jada people are Nigerians by birth because it's the same Brirish people that colonized everyone in present day Nigeria, until you can prove that Jada was colonized by the French then we can start to take u serious

vacanci:


Your parent wasted money on your education. You are the only one in History that says that Jada was a protectorate of Nigeria.

I just they laugh at you with my colleagues here.

even at that, being a protectorate doesnt make you part of the country else, we are all british citizens being under their protectorate

With all due respect you and your colleagues have no business having a job for now as your are obviously incompetent to hold any responsible position in life yet as u obviously need to go back to your books because u guys still have a long way to go.

Jada was a British Cameroons mandate which falls under the colony and protectorate of Nigeria,no part of British Cameroons has ever been French and no part of French Cameroun has ever been British, subsequently Jada is and has always been Nigerian territory and there has never been any controversy about it ever between Nigeria and Cameron since 1922 when the British Cameroons was mandated,your paymasters have decided to make as illogical controversy and u took it as the gospel truth since y'all have decided to be useful idiots anyway.

Unfortunately been a, protectorate in loose terms mean that the territory is been protected and under the control of the colony in this case Nigeria so its 100% Nigerian soil and I never called it British protectorate so your comparism been British citizens is illogical,is it your eyes that is paining you or your brain or both.

I wish any of your dunderhead friends, could help out but perhaps u are the brightest of them.

vacanci:


Can you please tell me in which country in 1946 was Atiku born?

The colony and protectorate of Nigeria(1914-1954)

vacanci:


meaning he wasn't born in the entity called Nigeria as well. He was born in stateless british colony deciding whether to join Cameroun or Nigeria and finally joined Nigeria in 1961.

The accusations are not only baseless and illogical but a futile and lame attempt to rewrite history for political correctness.

vacanci:


meaning he wasn't born in the entity called Nigeria as well. He was born in stateless british colony deciding whether to join Cameroun or Nigeria and finally joined Nigeria in 1961.

Did you just hear yourself, he was born in a stateless British colony, this your statement is a disservice to the royal, British crown, however they would be really sorry any sane person can be this ignorant in the 21st.

You think the Brit's would be as dumb as u having a stateless colony,whatever school u must have attended is not only a total waste but also counter productive to the benefit of mankind.

buhariguy:
if no entity call Cameroon in 1956, how come Cameroon just blow out from the moon in 1961.
they fall from the sky, and form Cameroon in 1961.

the way idiotic pigs reason ehh, you will fear FEAR.

It was firstly a German colony called Kamerun,during the world war 1 it was attacked by British forces and it was annexed by Britain as at 1916,however it was divided into 2 in 1922 called British Cameroons and French Cameroon,as at 1922 there was already the colony and protectorate of Nigeria therefore the British Cameroons was a mandate under the colony and protectorate of Nigeria and was governed from Lagos,therefore anyone born in British Cameroons is most definitely a Nigerian the same way All persons born in Hawaii on or after April 30, 1900, are native-born citizens of the United States. Hawaii was declared a U.S. state on August 21, 1959,i hope I have made myself clear in the most elementary way for simpletons like u.

abbakacici:
he was born in British Cameroon thus technically not Nigerian

Fulani soldiers founded the Adamawa Emirate in the north in the 19th century, and various ethnic groups of the west and northwest established powerful chiefdoms and fondoms. Cameroon became a German colony in 1884 known as Kamerun.

After World War I, the territory was divided between France and the United Kingdom as League of Nations mandates. The Union des Populations du Cameroun (UPC) political party advocated independence, but was outlawed by France in the 1950s, leading to the Bamileke War fought between French and UPC militant forces until early 1971. In 1960, the French-administered part of Cameroon became independent as the Republic of Cameroun under President Ahmadou Ahidjo. The southern part of British Cameroons federated with it in 1961 to form the Federal Republic of Cameroon

Oh then can we then say he was born a citizen of British Cameroons,if your answer is yes then there is no such entity as British Cameroon as it was only a British mandate which falls under the colony and protectorate of Nigeria as British Cameroons was governed from Lagos.

The same way the Northern protectorate and southern protectorate formed the colony of Nigeria in 1914.

It's now left to you to prove to Britain that British Cameroon was a separate colony from the colony and protectorate of Nigeria.

abbakacici:
his parents are not Nigerian therefore he is not Nigerian because you have to be born in Nigerian and your father or both parent have to Nigerians

Unfortunately Atiku,s grandad is from Sokoto plus he was born in the colony and protectorate of Nigeria (1914-1954) and there was no such country as Cameroon in 1946 when Atiku was born,how come he is now conveniently a Cameroonian,time travel I guess

cyrilamx:
Even if you shown a section of the constitution that nailed the coffin of Atiku's inordinate ambition, you will still request for the drafters of the 1999 constitution in order to satisfy you "whims" and "caprices". Do i need to lecture you on comprehension passage further? Get the copy of what u requested for....

Your logic hold no water,first it was Atiku is a Cameroonian,now your narrative has changed oh he is indeed a Nigerian but can't hold public office,are you such a confused and disturbed individual for real?

Both Atiku,Buhari and some present day Cameroonians were all born in the colony and protectorate Nigeria(1914-1954)until it was divided in 1954 into present day Nigeria and some parts of present day Cameroon and so therefore carry same status of place of birth.

How come Atiku is now conveniently a Cameroonian while Buhari is a Nigerian when they were all born in the same country as there was no such entity as Cameroon until 1954.

I hope I have made myself clear in the most elementary way for u to comprehend and if u still don't understand your case is indeed irredeemable.

abbakacici:
for god sake not body is saying atiku is not a Nigerian but he is not a Nigerian by birth and the 1999 constitution state that only Nigerian by birth can become president that is Nigerian by either
By Registration
By Naturalisation
Can become any they wish but not President

Oh Atiku is not a Nigerian by birth,Atiku was born in 1946 and there was no such entity or country called Cameroon until 1956,can we all assume he was totally stateless at birth?

vacanci:


Anyone that does not understand this bricklayer explanation must have a problem.

But again, what can i say, his followers will never accept. some will even tell you he was born in Lagos.

The constitution is very clear about this. This is the most clear case i have seen in recent times.

Atiku was born in 1946,there was no such entity or country called Cameroon until 1956,how come Atiku is now a Cameroonian,or should we just agree he was stateless until the independence of Cameroon?

NgeneUkwenu:


Was Obama born in USA?

Was Atiku Born in Nigeria?

In America, You can't be the President unless you are born in the United States Of America. That is Citizenship by birth and not Visa Lottery or Scam Marriages

In Nigeria, you cant be the president unless you are born in Nigeria. That is Citizenship by Birth and Not Referendum.

Why are ipob yoots so uneducated?

There was no such entity as Cameroon until 1956,how come Atiku who was in 1946 is been called a Cameroonian?

StOla:


What a tragedy that even this illiterate does not understand the constitutional requirement of presidential eligibility by virtue of birth.

Has Atiku denied that he was not born in Cameroon and held a Cameroonian birth certificate for the first 15years of his life and sang the Cameroonian anthem in school?

Has anyone said Atiku is not a Nigerian now, by virtue of the 1961 assimilation of his region of Cameroon into Nigeria?

But did the constitution not state that to be eligible for Nigerian Presidency, the candidate must have been born by Nigerians and born within Nigeria?

Atiku is a Nigerian, but not Nigerian enough according to the constitution, to be able to qualify for the Nigerian Presidency.

Your logic hold no water,first it was Atiku is a Cameroonian,now your narrative has changed oh he is indeed a Nigerian but can't hold public office,are you such a confused and disturbed individual for real?

Both Atiku,Buhari and some present day Cameroonians were all born in the colony and protectorate Nigeria(1914-1954)until it was divided in 1954 into present day Nigeria and some parts of present day Cameroon and so therefore carry same status of place of birth.

How come Atiku is now conveniently a Cameroonian while Buhari is a Nigerian when they were all born in the same country as there was no such entity as Cameroon until 1954.

I hope I have made myself clear in the most elementary way for u to comprehend and if u still don't understand your case is indeed irredeemable.

NgeneUkwenu:
For the brainless IPOB miscreants here, who have been going about doing copy and paste from God knows where about APC's reply to Atiku Petition.

Let me school you a bit here:



1. Atiku is a Citizen of Nigeria.

2. Nobody is contesting his Citizenship and that of his Jada People of Adamawa.

3. What are the ways one can become a citizen of Nigeria?
a) BY BIRTH
B) BY REGISTRATION
C) BY REFERENDUM
D) BY NATURALIZATION


4) Out of above methods, it is only a person who becomes a CITIZEN By BIRTH Is Qualified To Contest for the Office Of The President.

5. Can Atiku and His Jada Cameroon vote and be voted for? Yes because they are Citizens of Nigeria by Referendum.

6) Can they ( Atiku and Jada Brothers) contest and be voted for up to the post of the Vice Presidency? YES because the Constitution paved way for them?

7. The question is: Did Atiku fulfill the Constitutional requirements to contest for the post of the president?

8 . The Answer is what the APC wants the Appeal court to determine, because one of the requirements is that you MUST A Citizen By BIRTH To Qualify.

9. That you are citizen of Nigeria by other means such as Referendum, Naturalization, Registration etc can only take you the office of the Vice President and not that of the President according to the 1999 Constitution we operate.

What is hard here to understand?

Your logic hold no water,first it was Atiku is a Cameroonian,now your narrative has changed oh he is indeed a Nigerian but can't hold public office,are you such a confused and disturbed individual for real?

Both Atiku,Buhari and some present day Cameroonians were all born in the colony and protectorate Nigeria(1914-1954)until it was divided in 1954 into present day Nigeria and some parts of present day Cameroon and so therefore carry same status of place of birth.

How come Atiku is now conveniently a Cameroonian while Buhari is a Nigerian when they were all born in the same country as there was no such entity as Cameroon until 1954.

I hope I have made myself clear in the most elementary way for u to comprehend and if u still don't understand your case is indeed irredeemable.

GavelSlam:


You are so confused.

Being a Nigerian is not the only criterion for presidency.

Indeed, you could be a Nigerian but not meet the educational requirement.

In another case, you could be a Nigerian, yet you weren't at birth, which debars you from being President.

Having a green card in America and later taking up citizenship does not give you access to the white house.

Same in Nigeria.

My last response to you.

Your logic hold no water,first it was Atiku is a Cameroonian,now your narrative has changed oh he is indeed a Nigerian but can't hold public office,are you such a confused and disturbed individual for real?

Both Atiku,Buhari and some present day Cameroonians were all born in the colony and protectorate Nigeria(1914-1954)until it was divided in 1954 into present day Nigeria and some parts of present day Cameroon and so therefore carry same status of place of birth.

How come Atiku is now conveniently a Cameroonian while Buhari is a Nigerian when they were all born in the same country as there was no such entity as Cameroon until 1954.

I hope I have made myself clear in the most elementary way for u to comprehend and if u still don't understand your case is indeed irredeemable.

GavelSlam:


That's Ok.

Prove it in court.

Before I prove it in court use your head to access your logic, that's what the good lord gave u a brain for

The colony and protectorate of Nigeria was divided into both Nigeria and some parts of present day Cameroon, are we safe to say those people in those parts of Cameroon today are eligible to Nigerian passports since they were born in the same colony and protectorate of Nigeria that Buhari and Atiku was born?

GavelSlam:


There was a specific referendum for the Cameroons.

If you are in doubt about Buhari's nationality, the Law courts are there to litigate on such matters.

It doesn't change the fact that Buhari was not born in Nigeria either if we are to go by your logic of "place of birth"The colony and protectorate of Nigeria has a different flag, coat of arms, anthem from Nigeria.

GavelSlam:
It only affects those who were born before the referendum which curiously affects Atiku.

Nigeria became a republic in 1963,can we as well say Buhari is a citizen of the colony and protectorate of Nigeria 1914-1954 which is a totally different entity from the Federal Republic of Nigeria of 1963 till date?

The claims make by APC is really lame in my opinion

Atiku grandfather is said to hail from Sokoto

There was no entity as Nigeria when he was born same with Buhari

Nigeria because a full Republic in 1963 same year Adamawa became a part of Nigeria

Going by their analogy Buhari is as well a citizen of the Northern Nigeria protectorate and not fit to be the president of Nigeria.