₦airaland Forum

spikedcylinder:
I need to vent and i decided to start a thread for that.

Am sick and tired of the way i have to explain my religious status to everyone i come across with.I have to practically explain why am not a christian and also not a muslim all the time!!!!.When will people grow upThe idea of lying that am a christian so i can speed things up is very enticing at the moment!

I can only try to imagine what it must be like. I feel your pain.

spikedcylinder:
Am pissed of at the way i have to apologise to people for gaining a lot of weight in the past 3 years(from size 12 to 16) and having to feel bad for it,i don't owe anybody explanations!

And you are still a beautiful person. Try to do what is necessary to be healthy, weight is less important (cardio work = long life)

spikedcylinder:
Am sick and tired of why i have to form "creamy chick" and must only do cream things,eat cream things,breath cream things when all i simply want to do is go to the next iya alamala and eat to my satisfaction without fearing that some of my "cream" friends will see me there!

spikedcylinder:
Am sick of the way i avoid my neighbours direct gaze because i am ashamed of the fact that my parents fight all the time and i think they(my neighbours) are judging me based on that!

I have one disfunctional parent as well. I hate it when people tell me I behave like my father (although I sometimes can't help myself)

spikedcylinder:
Am sick of the way men stare at you as if you are the next commodity waiting to be bought at a local meat shop,i just want to poke out someone's eyes with a fork!

What can I say? Men are very simple beings, there's usually no bad intent. Just make some embarrasing comments about their appearance, will make them flee with their tail between their legs (maybe literally).

spikedcylinder:
Am sick and tired of the way people look at me when i drink anything that has the slightest alcohol in it.I mean,i take a glass of beer at most every couple of months and then i get these crazy gazes like i'm butchering somebody or something.Some people tell me it'll spoil my womb,others tell me i will die of heart disease and some even call me the devil's daughter!

Aren't you?

spikedcylinder:
Am sick and tired of the way i can't get along with girls.I mean my ratio of friends is like 100 boys to 2 girls.I mean,i can't stand people who are stuck up and pretend to be what they are not and believe me,a lot of girls are like that,they really find it difficult being down to earth.I need female friends!!!

Girls can be much meaner than boys. As I said before, men are very simple beings.

spikedcylinder:
Being recently single,am sick and tired of the dating game.I hate the fact that its the guy who calls the shots,you have to wait for him to decide if he likes you,if he doesnt,you're done for!

Why do you have to go for these tired social conventions? You can be the hunter as well.

spikedcylinder:
Right now,someone just annoyed me so am pissed.My mind is a flock of pigeons,fluttering away.All my thought are rubbish and feathers.

Kick in a door. Can help sometimes.

Chxta,

The article you presented is very biased concerning the creation of the state of Israel. For exmple, the jishuv is not something that came into being in the interbellum, but is much older. Palestinian national consciousness is also something that mainly grew after the establishment of Israel. The collaboration of the Grand Mufti of jerusalem with the axis is also something that is overlooked by the pro-Palestian side.

I will give a more detailed reply later on.

Larufa:
THE ISRAELI OFFENSIVE: MIGHT IS RIGHT?

[SNIP]


http://nigeriaworld.com/columnist/nwabuzor/072006.html

Some columnist should better keep their opinions to themselves if they have nothing to contribute

Mystique:
Wrong Again, i love (not like) chocolates

It seems quite curious you don't like Belgian chocolates. Which brand did you try?

Giorgio:
http://www.napavalleyregister.com/articles/2006/07/21/news/world/iq_3526134.txt

Doesn't provide any evidence for your statement that their objective in this war is economic

Giorgio:
i was in lebanon earlier in the summer. beautifu place. i think Chirac was right. lebanon's economy has done better than that of isrel for d last 3 years, so their objective in this war is economic. they were justlooking for a chance. hezbolla gave it to them.

Any evidence for that statement? Seems very far-fetched.

Chxta:
Alex Cunninham showed more effective ways to remove an enemy's means and will to fight than either appeasment or devastation.

There normally are better ways, but given the nature of the opponent and the overal political context, I don't see many other options. I would be very interested to see another option though.

Chxta:
There are no good sides in this conflict, and my point is that the Israelis are being very stupid by pursuing actions that will definitely ensure the continuation of the conflict for another generation.

I know very well that their reaction will only further more hate and distrust, but how else could they have reacted? With ennemies such as Hezbollah, appeasement isn't an option either.

Chxta:
Likewise the construction of the Gaza ghetto.

Nferyn, from some posts you have made before I have come to the conclusion that you are a smart fellow. Stop looking at this conflict from a Western bias. Do you seriously think that there can be peace in the Mideast for another generation following the actions of Israel?

Do I think that the actions of Israel are conductive for peace: absolutely not
Do I think that the actions of the neigbouring Arab countries are conductive for peace: even less so
Currently in Israel, due to the influx of new immigrants for the former Soviet Union, the overall right wing attitude of most Askenazi Jews (most of whom were forced to flee to Israel after being expelled or threatened in their native Arab countries) and the electoral system, the right wing parties have a disproportionate weight in politics. Those in power are quite uncompromising and I don't see any improvement of the situation under Olmert.

My point is that the Israeli reaction was quite predictable and that Hezbollah, by trying to blend into the civilian population is deliberately putting these civilians at risk. If you think Israel has little respect for the life of the Arab civilians, Hezbollah and most of the Arab regimes have far less respect for these lives.

Now, concerning the overall possibility of peace, as long as countries such as Syria and Lebanon don't enter into direct peace negotiations with Israel and above all recognise the right of existence of the state of Israel, all is pointless. In exchange for genuine peace and security Israel has been shown willing to make territorial compromises (peace with Egypt)

Am I showing western bias if I try to see both sides of the coin? There are no hard and clear good and bad sides in this conflict.

toshmann:
war is horrible. for 2 soldiers over 200 people are dead.

and still counting.

Do you really think this is only for 2 soldiers? The shelling of northern Israel by Hezbollah has been going on for several years prior to the kidnapping.

Mariory:
First of all, I never said Israelis were angels and Shiite's were devils. Stop putting words in my mouth.

My description of your position was a bit over the top. Sorry for that, but it doesn't mean that carpet bombing is anywhere near accurate.

Mariory:
This is about the current crisis engulfing Lebabnon. You would have Israel do nothing? Tell me what else are they to do. They withdraw from land, the terrorist organisations simply move the frontier closer. Even when there is a cease fire they still fire rockets into Israel. For a long time now the Isralis have ignored the rockets coming over but, now the terrorists are crossing the border into Israel itself to attack Israelis. What is the country to do. Or are Israelis expendable?

If you would have read my posts, you would know that my position is that the reaction of Israel was inevitable and I really don't see many other options they could have chosen, except maybe that they could have chosen another modus operandi and put out an ultimatum to the lebanese government, offering their support, but as the two countries are technically still at war, that wasn't going to happen.

Mariory:
So please do explain what you feel they should do. Please share your "complicated" view of what a nation should do when it's bordered by nations that still won't recognise it's right to exist. Countries that start wars with it, that sponsor "freedom" groups that use suicide bombers to maim and kill, that are constantly trying to infiltrate it's borders, that launch rockets at it's cities (been going on since Israel withdrew from Lebanon).

Sharon's withdrawal from Lebanon was a mistake. Israel should only have left Lebanon after the regular Lebanese army was capable of controlling southern Lebanon. The thing is that there are no [i]good [/i]solutions in the region.

Mariory:
Share your complicated view.

When you stop displaying that patronising attitude.

soccerchic:
@Retro, I have tried belgium choclate and I still say Swiss choclate does it for me ( For me, its the best) i mean, the texture, taste is just fantastic oooo ma ma mia, ( No offence to Nferyn and other Belgium choclate fans)

Which one do you like best? Toblerone?

Mariory:
Weather I am wrong or not in this instance is irrelevant anyways. This is besides the point I was trying to make ealier in the thread.

You were using emotionally loaded language to describe a situation that really doesn't need that kind of rhetoric. Stop turing this into a situation where the Israeli angels are being attacked by Shiite devils and that therefore all bets are open. It's a little more complicated than that.

retro:
Apparently, you haven't tasted Belgian chocolate.

That can be the only reason why she would make such statements (or maybe she's just Swiss)

Mariory:
You keep talking about stuff of which you have no clue.

You, Sir, are the one that is clueless. You keep dancing around the fact that the rockets fired by Hezbollah cannot be considered carpet bombing, not even by the most inclusive definition (which you provided).

Mariory:
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/middle_east/5194068.stm
After days and nights of bombardment, the streets are empty, roads are quiet and shops and businesses have shut down.

Irrelevant. The effects of the rocket launches does not provide a clue as to wheter or not they can be considered carpet bombing.

Mariory:
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/middle_east/5187974.stm
Hezbollah's Katyushas are thought to derive mainly from former Soviet and Chinese stockpiles. Because of their lack of a guidance system, Katyushas have the greatest effect when launched in concentrated numbers.

And that does nothing to substantiate your clueless claim that the rocket launches by Hezbollah are carpet bombing.

Mariory:
Some analysts believe that Hezbollah also has the more potent Zelzal-2 which has a claimed range of 200-400km and can be fitted with a 600kg high-explosive warhead.
None of these are guided or accurate systems, but often accuracy is not important if the target is an urban area.

Again, no evidence whatsoever for carpet bombing.

soccerchic:
SWIZZ CHOCLATES ARE THE BEST MMMMMM,

You are soooo wrong. Belgian chocolate is the best. I dread the moment I have to miss my chocolate when I'm out of the country. The sorry excuses they have for chocolate in Germany, the UK, France and Austria make me sad. Only Swiss chocolate comes close, but it's more tuned to a child's tastebuds than to those of an adult.

Mariory:
http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/carpet%20bombing
carpet bombing
n : an extensive and systematic bombing intended to devastate a large target

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/middle_east/5192990.stm
Israeli military officials say more than 700 Hezbollah rockets have now landed in Israel since the crisis began.

And the firing of these rockets doesn't even meet the minimal definition you used here. There was no extensive bombing of a large target. Hezbollah simply does not have the capabilities to carry out such a bombing.

Mariory:
And that's not counting the rockets Hezbolla had continuously fired into Israel before the current crisis.

Irrelevant. It's not carpet bombing

Mariory:
Pull your head out of your ass

What an eloquence. You should go to Hyde Park corner, you'll definitely attract an audience.

Viper:
Seun, your posts make me laugh. You question like a lost child.

Typical, if you don't have an adequate response, just delve up an ad hominem.

Viper:
Why not open your bible and ask it this questions so it will answer you ,

You won't find many answers there, only more confusion, unless of course you put your brain in limbo (excuse me my Catholic [/i]lingo )

Viper:
rather than this-credit the creator and put yourself into un-necessary trouble.

Give some solid evidence for the existence of that creator, before you presuppose his existence. You're babbling.

Viper:
Same goes for K2.(i know who u are)

Scare tactics? I wonder if it's any better than the usual [i]lying for Jesus^(tm)

Mariory:
Northern cities in israel are being carpet bombed by rockets so you're right. The Israeli response is not propotionate. A proportionate response from Israel will be to carpet bomb South Lebanese cities.

1. They're not being carpet bombed
2. If you think that carpet bombing is a proportionate response agains rocket atacks, you're on the verge of being psychopathic.

Nutter:
I am not holding brief for Hezbollah. I am not holding brief for Israel. The killing of non-combatants is wrong. Israel is therefore, also culpable. Further, the fact that - by your own admission - Israel's response is disproportionate makes Israel more culpable.

More culpable than whom? They're not the ones deliberately targeting civilians. If Hezbollah had the military capabilities of Israel, there would not be a Jew alive today. Hezbollah doesn't even blink when they say that they want to finish Hitler's unfinished business. If you have enemies with such a blind hatred that have as their ultimate goal your extermination, you're bound to lash out sometimes. The constant warfare and insecurity left Israeli's with a bunker mentality.

Seun:
_{Nferyn, for once you saved my ass instead of striving to disagree with me at all costs. Thanks.}

My pleasure. Why do you think I strive to disagree with you? There's no conscious effort involved, when I disagree with you it's because there's a genuine disagreement. You just have to admit that there's a lot in your opinions/approach that just screams disagreement

adeoba:
what's the full meaning of SAS?

The wikipedia link I provided before gives a reasonably good introduction

Nutter:
i love d fight lol isreal is bombin lebannon- vokal guy

Yeah, the killing of innocent civilians always brings out the 'love' in me too!

I just hope this madness doesn't spread to Northern Nigeria. We all know some of those folks don't need much of a reason.

Once the military steps in everybody's lost in one way or another. They follow their own internal logic and it isn't humanitarian concerns that are on their minds. The thing is that Hezbollah knew perfectly well how Israel would react. They knew that they would provoke a disproportionate military response and that many innocent civilians would pay the price, yet they chose to sacrifice them for furthering their political cause.

mrmayor:
Ajia23,

What is the point of creating something that you already know it will never obey you?If I set my cell phone alarm to wake me at 4am and the same time set it on silence,whats the point of breaking the phone after waking up late?
Religious people have never answer the question why did God create something he knew would never work and turn round an punish it for not working after all God knew it will never work!

That's the whole problem with the God-concept of Christianity, Judaism and Islam, it's so full of contradictions that only the willingly ignorant can believe in it.
You need conscious rationalisation to dismiss these contradictions