Another age-old concern that many people formerly discounted and officially claimed were hoaxes. It only gets interesting when the people who mostly discounted such phenomena were politicians. So, what would one think when other politicians are publicly testifying that they have witnessed such phenomena?

Here's an example of such a twist of events where public testimony is given as witnesses to the phenomenon of UFOs. Enjoy:


[list][list][size=14pt]Politician and Pilot Spot UFO[/size][/list][/list]

[list][list]Posted on Tuesday, 30 September, 2008 | 5:44 [/list][/list]

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[list][list]The truth is out there - and if a senior garda, a Fianna Fail politician and a pilot are to be believed, aliens are keeping a close eye on us from above. Dramatic eye-witness testimony was heard at a conference over the weekend which, delegates were told, provided "definitive" proof of recent UFO activity in the skies around north Dublin and Meath.Footage, filmed on a camera phone at 10.35pm on August 3 near Dunboyne was also played and replayed to over 70 delegates who attended the fifth Irish International UFO conference in Carrick-on-Shannon.The triangular shaped image, with lights at each point, which appeared to send a red laser-type light towards earth, drew gasps of amazement from the 70 or so delegates who attended the world premiere of the footage. A senior garda officer who was driving when he noticed the unusual light formation in the sky stopped to film it."There is no footage like this in the world. It is the most amazing and spectacular I have ever seen," said Carl Nally, co-founder of UFO and Paranormal Research Ireland and joint author of 'Conspiracy of Silence'.Five days earlier, on July 29, an off-duty pilot who photographed lightning from Howth pier just after midnight later noticed what appeared to be a triangular-shaped object to the right of the lightning fork in the developed image.And Fianna Fail Town Councillor in Trim, Jimmy Peppard, ran indoors for a camera on August 8 when he spotted a triangular-shaped object measuring "about a mile in diameter" in the sky, where it remained static for about half an hour.

"What we have here is sightings of three objects east, west and south-east of Dublin airport, each five days apart by reliable and trained observers and even since I have arrived here I have received another image from a pilot," Mr Nally told the conference.He later described the laser beam footage as the best footage on the planet and said it would be shown all over the world. "This is what the sceptics are crying out for. What all this footage has in common is that trained observers, honest people, took it.[/list][/list]

[list][list]source: http://www.unexplained-mysteries.com/viewnews.php?id=136560 [/list][/list]

pilgrim.1:

Thank you, I know who is talking. You don't have to be the only person disturbed about pilgrim.1, though. God bless you for seeing me as a bad person. Cheers.

I dont think i am the only one bothered by you. There are hundreds of people on nairaland that depise and hate your guts. There are also thousands of people, mostly muslims that feel irritated by the sight of you. Your nothing but a back stabbber and betrayer of a faith that once fed you and made you what you are.

I can't imagine who ungrateful you can be to a religion that didn't harm you in anyway but for you to later do a 360 and start abusing Allah, its people and the koran. What kind of person are you? When you were championing the cause of muslims and disgorging christianity with so much passion and happiness, did you ever feel some form of satisfaction? When you were denouncing the same bible you uphold today, did you ever consider the way you maltreated Christian faithfuls world wide?

Did you ever recieve any sense of gratification or prize for doing a job very well by being cruel to christians and the bible? Can you count how much time you spent searching all the anti christian sites to ill-treat christians world wide? Did you ever see your self as a persecutor of christians at one time.

Would you be kind enough to tell us some of the things that you used to maltreat christians? Would you be benevolent enough to reiterate how you felt so happy then that you have dismembered the christian faith? Did you get an award of sorts from the muslim community or scholarship based accolade for the denouncement of christianity? Have you forgotten so soon how to pray towards Mecca?

How could you be so cruel too in your story to link your dad into it. I know i would never humilate my dad or say anything bad about him in public no matter how angry i might be with him but for you to go as far as saying that a christian boyfriend of yours prophesied that "your dad will call jesus with his lips" is too demeaning towards your dad. At least such statements should be kept at home and not washed open for all and sundry to see.

Did your dad deserve this kind of publicity? Why did you tell the whole world that your father finally knelt down and was crying praising jesus? Why didn't you allow him state it himself and do so at his own time? When i read it, i laughed so hard but i had to cool down because i would't imagine others laughing at my dad for a wicked and humilating story that he didn't give his consent for? If you wanted to wash your own linen in public, that's all well and good to us but bringing your dad into that story is evil to say the least.

At least the bible you now worship states 'You should honour your father and mother". Some honour you did to him there. I wish you read that story over and over again. PLEASE DONT HUMILATE THAT MAN AGAIN. hE DOESNT DESERVE TO BE THROWN INTO YOUR CESSPOOL OF INFAMY

Anyway back to your flip flopping lifestyle as a Super duper christian. Do you enjoy pouring out anti-allah statements now that you have seen the light Do you now dislike all the Imams that comforted you as a child and prayed that your future would be a success? Do you now hate with a passion that koran you once told an ex boyfriend not to toy with casually? I am sure you now toy with that holy book at any given opportunity you have. Do the muslim scholars around you know what you have done? Can you travel to pakistan, Saudi and Dubai freely and repeat all this rubbish you post here in front of the clerics?

Would you like to go through an open debate versus muslim scholars about the evils of islam probably in Tehran and remind them that you were once a zainab or fatima now your probably called mary or esther?

People like you should attempt to educate the public more about what you know that is so passionately evil about islam through a t.v show or radio show so that people can interact with you and ask for your autograph. Wouldnt it be nice to be a celebrity that denounces Islam?

What about all the evil things you said about christians then? Have you forgotten it so soon? Dont tell me you have deleted those manuscripts and folders that contained all the idiocy of Moses, joshua and book of revelations? Dont tell me that you have banished away all those unruly christian passages that you used to decimate christians 24/7 and now replaced them with passages that humilate the prophet mohammed? Dont tell me all those pamphlets about untrustworthy and unbelievable miracles that you kept so secretly to punish christians have been replaced by the malevolence of Allah and quoran? Can you remember how you saw all jews and christians as scallywags? think hard, its not too distance a time.

I really dont know how you keep a straight face when you tell people your a christian and recite the same verses in the bible that you once tore to shreds? I can imagine someone that was a regular attendee of all those your neighbourhood block anti-christian debate seeing you and saying 'Yeah Right" Some Christian you are!

So dont come here and tell me that nonsense that God bless me. You have to be specific about the God your following at this moment because no body knows whether by midnight tonight you might have flip flopped to scientology!

pilgrim's testimony really shook even muslims who dont normally visit this section.
Jesus is LORD!

davidylan*:

pilgrim's testimony really shook even muslims who don't normally visit this section.
Jesus is LORD!

Yeah right! What testimony? A testimony that goes as far as humilating her daddy that he was crying? I wish you would post your testimony and tell us whether your parents did anything amusing or comedic in praising jesus. Dont forget to add the crying part too, lol

I was so sure that pilgrim's loverboy davidylan would come to her aid.What's so inspirational about fornication and conversion? How come you havent told us anything about your relationship with women and jesus? What is so inspiring that can shake muslims? Instead of her to say she found solace in christianity so as to have a free hand to continue fornicating and swap religions, your saying it would shake muslims.

I see you forgot to point out the fact that pilgrim was also a persecutor of christians. You forgot to remind her that she waged a religious war against christians through her speeches and articles. I am sure now that she is in your camp, you can sigh a heavily sign of relief that for the brief moment relief is near.

How come she never mentioned what really happened to her ex-boyfriend and how he was killed? Are we to just believe one letter from an aggreived mother? Besides whose business is it that the boy went to afghnistan and got killed? People get killed in war daily, so what's the biggie? Whose concern is that?

So if everybody dies in a war, it is a reason to convert right? I see she also forgot to tell us how the miracle seeing sick guy's father converted from being an atheist to a christian? despite the fact he was an atheist sll these years? Who is she deciving with all these stupid testimonial stories.

There is nothing inspiration about that story or testimony to shake muslims. If she wants to disrespect her father in a public forum, that's her father's headache and hers but dont even think Muslims will stand by and see her disrespect a religion that fed her and nutured her to become a turn coat and still bite the finger that fed her. Ingrate will surely recieve what is due to them very soon.

pussylover:

I don't think i am the only one bothered by you. There are hundreds of people on nairaland that depise and hate your guts. There are also thousands of people, mostly muslims that feel irritated by the sight of you. Your nothing but a back stabbber and betrayer of a faith that once fed you and made you what you are.

Thank you once again for your compliments. God bless you for all you've said about me.

pussylover:

Yeah right! What testimony? A testimony that goes as far as humilating her daddy that he was crying?

My dad cried when he lost his last child . . what's humiliating about a man crying?

pussylover:

I was so sure that pilgrim's loverboy davidylan would come to her aid.What's so inspirational about fornication and conversion? How come you havent told us anything about your relationship with women and jesus? What is so inspiring that can shake muslims? Instead of her to say she found solace in christianity so as to have a free hand to continue fornicating and swap religions, your saying it would shake muslims.

is this why you said this?

pussylover:

I don't think i am the only one bothered by you. There are hundreds of people on nairaland that depise and hate your guts. There are also thousands of people, mostly muslims that feel irritated by the sight of you. Your nothing but a back stabbber and betrayer of a faith that once fed you and made you what you are.

Seems to me muslims are very badly shaken.

pussylover:

I can't imagine who ungrateful you can be to a religion that didn't harm you in anyway but for you to later do a 360 and start abusing Allah, its people and the koran. What kind of person are you? When you were championing the cause of muslims and disgorging christianity with so much passion and happiness, did you ever feel some form of satisfaction? When you were denouncing the same bible you uphold today, did you ever consider the way you maltreated Christian faithfuls world wide?

the same form of satisfaction you would have felt if she were busy "disgorging christianity" still? What kind of person are you?
Why so much hate?

@Pilgrim.1: « #6 on: October 03, 2008, 11:54 PM »

Quote from: pilgrim.1 on October 03, 2008, 11:49 PM
Well, a few of my muslim “friends” on YIM have “kindly” asked me in very critical terms (apart from the remonstrances) to check the “signs” of Allah all over the place.

So, there they are. But although some were naïve to assume that it has always been “allah” written on those medium/media, they supposed (nay, ‘alleged’) that one could not find a similar “sign” for the European’s god (by which they meant that no such signs could be found in the English equivalent of “God”). I remember someone gently “reminded” me on the forum that Jesus never spoke English (“never heard of it”, said she) . . by which she had thought of calling my attention to the name ‘Allah’.

That being so, I only smiled and asked those gentlemen to come back here and let me help them see just the very thing they alleged was never in existence. Below, you will find “GOD” written on the side of the alligator:

Woman, you would have impressed me, if God of Christians; be it the father god, son god, ghost god, or even Jesus, or trinity was written on anything, in get this; the language of which any of it was spoken "originally," before the Europeans took over from the Semitic Children of Israel!

Michael Wilk was tossing back a few beers with friends when he saw
God on the side of his 4-foot-long pet alligator. The white markings
popped out against a backdrop of black scales to form the letters G-O-D.”
____________________________________________________________

source: http://purgatorio1.com/?p=473 (more here)

Is the word GOD on the side of the alligator an indication of Christian God, of any of the 3 gods? Why not in Hebrew and I wanna see how you will wrestle that "Hebrew wording," away from the Jews/children of Israel, who will definitely claim that you, a Christian have no single god, but gods. And as a matter of fact you borrowed the idea of Godship from them!

@Pilgrim.1: « #13 on: Yesterday at 12:08:02 AM »

Quote from: Nimshi on Yesterday at 12:02:36 AM
You see what your eyes want to see.

True.

Now while the reactions may be varied (as we have seen), no one can deny that these phenomena are quite striking. I mean, it is not everyday one sees the word "G-O-D" on the side of an alligator spelt so unmistakenly! Yet, that alone is insufficient reason for anyone to rever that alligator to such extent as to worship the creature. Romans 1:25 warns us against the attitude of those who "worshipped and served the creature more than the Creator" (Roman 1:25). Fascinating as they are, they should not distract us from knowing Who really is the One we worship.

Now then, Pilgrim.1, how is it that you can't follow the instructions of this simple and direct verse, Romans 1: 25, above? Is there a creator other than the One single Creator; Allah in Arabic, Eloi in Hebrew, whom Jesus cried to on the "Cross," God in English, and in my Yoruba ethnic tongue, Oluwa? Is anyone deserving a part of the worship due to this Supreme Deity, God Almighty the Creator?

Why then do you worship the creation who clearly worshipped the Creator, while you refuse to prostrate your face to the Irrestitable God Almighty Allah Azawaja?

davidylan*:

My dad cried when he lost his last child . . what's humiliating about a man crying?

eeyaaaaa

Olabowale,

olabowale:

@Pilgrim.1: « #6 on: October 03, 2008, 11:54 PM »
Woman, you would have impressed me, if God of Christians; be it the father god, son god, ghost god, or even Jesus, or trinity was written on anything, in get this; the language of which any of it was spoken "originally," before the Europeans took over from the Semitic Children of Israel!

Lol, my dear sir, you are really sounding like a child. This thread is not about impressing anyone - much less about seeking to impress you! Who do you think you are? I'm sad for those who reason the way you do; because the one thing you're failing to understand is that the thread is bringing people's attention to the "orphic" phenomena in our world. These issues are not the designs or handycraft of pilgrim.1 - so what is this hilarity of yours about seeking to impress you?!?

Many people argue that such phenomena do not exist - no paranormal events, no "orphic" phenomena, nothing extending beyond the present natural and physical world. The debate about UFOs, for instance, has been around for ages and many people in public arena have denounced them as hoaxes. Events which people do not like to consider are cleverly swept under the carpet with fanciful diction - that's why they ascribe them to clichés that sound intelligent (such as simulacra, apophenia, or pareidolia), whereas very real cases of "orphic" phenomena have been attested to exist! We are not hearing the skeptics shouting "hoaxes" anymore, unless such people would like to remain largely ignorant of these realities.

Now, when it comes to "cluster illusions" as in the case of the alligator with the word 'G-O-D' written on its side, the point was not to impress you; but rather to share with others that these issues do not necessarily drive us to wage a contest of which animals have 'allah' on its bellies more than any other religion! Must you seek to turn every thread into an errand platform for the "allah", even when you can't see the purpose of the thread?

You really need to calm down and be more sensible than this unnecessary gesticulations. You're not making any sense at all by behaving this way. Please read the topic of a thread, and flow with it before you arrive at a tangent that puts your ideas way beyond the feel of a current thread. You just make me laugh by supposing however slightly that I should have impressed you! Haa!

olabowale:

Is the word GOD on the side of the alligator an indication of Christian God, of any of the 3 gods?

Is the word "allah" on the sides of an egg an indication of what Muslims worship?

olabowale:

Why not in Hebrew and I want to see how you will wrestle that "Hebrew wording," away from the Jews/children of Israel, who will definitely claim that you, a Christian have no single god, but gods.

This thread is not about "wrestling", Olabowale. I am so sorry that your desire to draw me into a debate is not working. I'm done with Islam, and sadly for your lot if you can't take it in.

olabowale:

And as a matter of fact you borrowed the idea of Godship from them!

You're such a laugh! Go back and read your Islamic history as a first course.

@Olabowale,

olabowale:

@Pilgrim.1: « #13 on: Yesterday at 12:08:02 AM »
Now then, Pilgrim.1, how is it that you can't follow the instructions of this simple and direct verse, Romans 1: 25, above? Is there a creator other than the One single Creator; Allah in Arabic, Eloi in Hebrew, whom Jesus cried to on the "Cross," God in English, and in my Yoruba ethnic tongue, Oluwa? Is anyone deserving a part of the worship due to this Supreme Deity, God Almighty the Creator?

Why then do you worship the creation who clearly worshipped the Creator, while you refuse to prostrate your face to the Irrestitable God Almighty Allah Azawaja?

Allah is not God for me. If you are so driven to ask me to follow the Bible, I am doing so and rejoicing in the same God who is known as FATHER by the prophets of the Bible. Please don't humour me with this retired gimmick of quoting the Bible and asking me to obey it when you are the very last to believe in it! What kind of hypocrisy is that?

If you want to become a Christian and then enjoy the message of the Bible, the invitation is still open - Jesus loves you and will save you the very moment you receive Him into your heart. There is no quarelling or logic about it - Jesus is Lord.

Shalom.

@Pilgrim.1: « #42 on: Today at 08:22:40 PM »

@Olabowale,

Allah is not God for me. If you are so driven to ask me to follow the Bible, I am doing so and rejoicing in the same God who is known as FATHER by the prophets of the Bible. Please don't humour me with this retired gimmick of quoting the Bible and asking me to obey it when you are the very last to believe in it! What kind of hypocrisy is that?

If you wanna follow a thing with true conviction, it must be a followership of every part of it! You for example pick and choose Bible parts! Then if I use this to measure your rejoicing, it is not without deficiencies! If I were a hypocrite, I will not call you on a very important point, which by the way is very agreeable to Muslims; why worshipping the creation, while refusing to worship the Creator wholeheartedly and solely? Allah may not be God for you, it is your lack of knowledge about absolute truth that speaks therein.

I on the other hand, do not do this with the Qur'an. It is every letter, word and sentence with me!

If you want to become a Christian and then enjoy the message of the Bible, the invitation is still open - Jesus loves you and will save you the very moment you receive Him into your heart. There is no quarelling or logic about it - Jesus is Lord.

But Jesus was not in the religion of christianity. He did not start it nor has any knowledge of it! Read your Bible again. Ilove Jesus, as much as I love all the other prophets (AS), before him! His love for me is not an unusual thing. Afterall, he and i worship the same Lord, Allah the irrestitable!

Jesus needed safety, which was his reason he prayed and cried before the was arrested. Read your Bible again. You need to know that I will go to the same God Lord who Jesus was begging and crying to!

Why would would i half step to my Creator, when He is informed me that my channel to Hims is without any obstruction? Allah is Akbar. I don't even need Muhammad (AS) for this. Yet I am in the time of his prophethood. How do you think I will regress to even an earlier Prophet?

It will be like somebody in the time of Ibrahim (AS) rejecting him for say Noah (AS) an earlier prophet! Thats pure disbelief!

@Olabowale,

Now, your own "orphic world" is becoming really bewildering.

olabowale:

@Pilgrim.1: « #42 on: Today at 08:22:40 PM »
If you want to follow a thing with true conviction, it must be a followership of every part of it! You for example pick and choose Bible parts! Then if I use this to measure your rejoicing, it is not without deficiencies!

Thank you. Are you not presenting your own "pick and choose" Islamic CV for us to see? If you are happy to let me live my Biblical faith without being a selective picker like you, then why is it soooooo difficult to let me simply worship God as the Bible says by calling Him "FATHER"? That same Romans you quoted refers to Jesus Christ as "Lord" (Romans 5:1) and "God" (Romans 9:5), and if you don't believe in "picking and choosing", you can as well let me live my faith without trying to define it with your brigandry, thank you.

olabowale:

If I were a hypocrite, I will not call you on a very important point, which by the way is very agreeable to Muslims; why worshipping the creation, while refusing to worship the Creator wholeheartedly and solely?

Does the "important" point include referring to God as "FATHER"? If it does not, then there's nothing important in what you're forcing yourself to present here. And No, Islam does not define the Christian faith for me, thank you.

olabowale:

Allah may not be God for you, it is your lack of knowledge about absolute truth that speaks therein.

There is no absolute truth in Islam in as much as you will not want Christians to live as the Bible defines their faith for them - the very thing that the Quran directly acknowledges!

olabowale:

I on the other hand, do not do this with the Qur'an. It is every letter, word and sentence with me!

Good, then you can go and breathe your Quran and let me be.

olabowale:

But Jesus was not in the religion of christianity. He did not start it nor has any knowledge of it! Read your Bible again.

I read the Bible, and you must be a very queer person to assume that Christ had no clue about His crucifixion (Matt. 26:2) and His resurrection (Matt. 20:17-19) - and you're asking me to read the Bible "again"?!? What really is wrong with you?

olabowale:

Ilove Jesus, as much as I love all the other prophets (AS), before him! His love for me is not an unusual thing. Afterall, he and i worship the same Lord, Allah the irrestitable!

Good. . . I have hope for you that you will soon taste of the love of Jesus and your testimony will be even more powerful than mine. May God make it a reality for you, amen.

olabowale:

Jesus needed safety, which was his reason he prayed and cried before the was arrested.

John 18:4.

olabowale:

Why would would i half step to my Creator, when He is informed me that my channel to Hims is without any obstruction? Allah is Akbar. I don't even need Muhammad (AS) for this. Yet I am in the time of his prophethood. How do you think I will regress to even an earlier Prophet?

Actually, someone told me that I should just pray that you will confess the very same highlighted part in your quote - and that is what has happened. I am happy that you do not need Muhammad - according to you. Each day my prayers are being fulfilled that you will soon begin to draw away from your Islam and as you continue following me around the forum, you will soon come to know the love of Jesus more than what you read in my testimony. Jesus is love.

olabowale:

It will be like somebody in the time of Ibrahim (AS) rejecting him for say Noah (AS) an earlier prophet! Thats pure disbelief!

The unbelief is beginning to manifest in your quotes - and soon you will know the power of Jesus' Name. Shalom and God bless you.

Why can people not discuss issues and let the persons be, Islam oh Christianity oh every one to his own, what we should strive for is honesty in our answers, leave people alone, if I look at pilgrim's posted pics and I am touched and decide to become a catholic that's my business.

What I should not do is say that the sun moves around the earth without having the evidence to back it up, and by evidence I mean something that cannot be disputed by anyone, which is reality.

Sheath your swords you guys may never agree.

Chrisbenogor:

what we should strive for is honesty in our answers, leave people alone,

@Chrisbenogor, thank you. Same point I've been making several times over.

@ pilgrim

I love this ufo story. pls more orhic stories

@idupaul,

How are you today? I trust your Sunday was splendid.

idupaul:

@ pilgrim

I love this ufo story. please more orhic stories

Actually, I was going to do so, but I gather that you will have a feast of them by visiting the link of the last story posted.

There are other very intriguing, "orphic" phenomena in my archives I would like to share. Even as a Christian, I've often stated again and again that I have no answers and cannot pretend any. We just know that they exist, they happen - and we observe and appreciate our limited knowledge of the realities of our universe. No matter the intrigues, I know beyond ordinary understanding that Jesus loves me - and you. Enjoy.

@Pilgrim.1: It is a reality in Qur'an and ahadith that no muslim needs Muhammad (AS) to speak to Allah. Muhammad's role was the messenger and a warmer! And if I do not need Muhammad to talk to Allah, why in the world would you think that i will need Jesus, an earlier Prophet?

If this is a sign of disbelief on my part, then no wonder you are a Christian. Finally, then consider the unexplained opposition of the Book of Roman verses against one another, since you are quoting that Jesus is more than what the earlier verse stated with your 5:1 and co.

Is there a verse though, in the whole of the Bible (New Testament), where Jesus is reported to categorically state that he knew "the time of the hour!" Then you will be impressing me. Until then, you are doing a disservice to yourself!

And my acceptance of a Bible verse is based on the fact that it is compartable with the Qur'an, and nothing else.

@Olabowale,

olabowale:

@Pilgrim.1: It is a reality in Qur'an and ahadith that no muslim needs Muhammad (AS) to speak to Allah. Muhammad's role was the messenger and a warmer! And if I do not need Muhammad to talk to Allah, why in the world would you think that i will need Jesus, an earlier Prophet?

I should first say that your misgivings are becoming quite helplessly "orphic". And I have only two direct answers to your latest dilemma:

(a) "It is a reality in Qur'an and ahadith that no muslim needs Muhammad (AS) to speak to Allah."

All the same, no Muslim needs Muhammad - that is your confession, and I agree. Whether they need him for this, that or the other, is not my concern - nor do I need him. As a consequence, I don't need to discuss him here, nor would I be interested in discussing him anywhere.

(b) "why in the world would you think that i will need Jesus, an earlier Prophet"

If you don't need Jesus, you don't need to quote anything about Him.

Now you can rest your soul and let's see if you actually can do without refering to Jesus for the rest of your life. I can do without referring to Muhammad - because I don't need him, nor am I interested in him. But Jesus. . you can't resist the power of that Name. Keep following me around - you will have a testimony of leaving Islam very soon. Jesus loves you.

Eh ya

a thread thats just talking about 'unreal' human experiences ends up being dragged by some disgruntled people into an unproductive religious discussion.
Can't we just have a discussion about UFO's without being bogged down by attempts at religious superiority?

Pls lets let threads do what they are meant for.
Some really insulting post there by pussylove, and so many hateful words(disgusted,hate etc)
dear pussylove,its obvious you are a really hurting person, tell your problems to jesus and let him wipe away your hurts and cries, you sound so angry, why? i want to let you know that whatever it is, God can take you out of it and calm your storms, i Pray that the lord reveals himself to you and give you peace like never before.
He loves you and i do too.


Dear pilgrim
Its obvious your testimony more than shook some peeps,I pray they come to experience what christ did for you,keep on loving them sister,its your nature,i love overcomes all.

@reindeer,

reindeer:

Dear pilgrim
Its obvious your testimony more than shook some peeps,I pray they come to experience what christ did for you,keep on loving them sister,its your nature,i love overcomes all.

Thank you for your encouragements and prayers. Your cup of joy and steadfast love in Christ will never run dry, amen. Even when I had no clue what was going to happen, I am as amazed as several people are, that a simple sharing of my story would have this impact! I just had no clue. Yes, I was already aware through friends that if my testimony was real, it would bless some and stir others. It continues to happen on a daily basis even outside the forum; and those things which were directed at me negatively have only turned out to further both my faith and that of others - especially those who highlighted these things. My prayer, like yours, is that everyone would come to know this love we speak about in Jesus Christ.

Jesus is Lord.

@davidylan

My dad cried when he lost his last child . . what's humiliating about a man crying?

Your case is different. Your father felt the loss of a loved one and its a personal story which every human should feel bad about. Nobody loves to lose a human life so that case is quite different.

How can you compare such an emotional issue with such a daft one life pilgrim's father crying and kneeling down that he has found jesus. Obviously to a neutral mind, it simply means her father became delusional and she only potrayed her father as someone that is fit for a mental home.

Imagine someone saying his father just knelt down and began to praise obatanla and crying or a person's father has finally accepted one of the muppet babies as his lord and saviour? Isnt that a deluded mind at work? I felt so bad that she would extend her show of lies to include her father and expose him to such ridicule. I know when i showed a neutral observer pilgrim's story about her conversion, he really laughed out loud when he read the part of her father crying and kneeling. I can imagine how many people are making fun of her dad just because of that bull she wrote.

So there is a big difference between your case and pilgrim's father's comedic show of delusion.

Seems to me muslims are very badly shaken

How will i know. I am an atheist so what has this got to do with me whether the muslims are shaken or not? I just felt sad that such a turn coat could do a 360 and begin to abuse Muslims. You might think i am lying but let me pull a more recent post from the way she insulted olabowale just few minutes ago:

You really need to calm down and be more sensible than this unnecessary gesticulations. You're not making any sense at all by behaving this way. Please read the topic of a thread, and flow with it before you arrive at a tangent that puts your ideas way beyond the feel of a current thread

As you can see, she is not as holy as you want to potray her as someone that doesnt use words to slur another person in an argument.

She has continually abused Muslims to a stage whereby the same koran that was her koran for years all of a sudden becomes only Olabowale's koran. How wicked can some people be. It has nothing to do with changing religions but must you go all out to castigate them after they were kind to you in the past? That's a very very dark and black soul at work.

the same form of satisfaction you would have felt if she were busy "disgorging christianity" still? What kind of person are you?

Why so much hate?

Hate? Nah! I despise turn coats with wide evil ungrateful mouths. I am sure there are thousands of converts on nairaland from babalawo to christianity to islam to atheists and so on. How many of them except pilgrim digresses to this level of debasement of other people's religions? Why should i like such a person now hiding under the banner of christianity and God bless you statements when she is well armed to bastardize other religions she doesnt like.

As to the form of satisfaction i would have felt if she were busy "disgorging christianity", i would have felt great and extremely satisfied. I love to see flip floppers insult religions at every whimp and caprice they have at their disposal. I would have loved to see her destroy the bible and God that she is shouting about. She looks like a very good speaker in real life so i can imagine how she made so many christians feel so bad at night that they almost though of converting to Islam, that's even if she didnt convert some to Islam then, lol

How do you trust such a person to run your company or affairs or have a normal relationship or have a steady man in her life? Nah! Not this kind of pilgrim maybe another kind of pilgrim. Isnt it evidenct from the way she changes boyfriends according to her stories?

Why shouldnt i be happy seeing someone like this about to press the self destruction button on her life?

Like i said before, i would have robbed a bank to just witness her for 5 minutes persecuting Christians and with her kind of feistness, i am sure Paul would have been shocked that someone on this planet could have outdone him in persecuting christians.

So trust me, it has nothing to do with hate but sheer joy in seeing her make christians go to bed with a bad taste in their mouth and hate their faiths.

dear pussylover
eh ya
such level of repressed anger,
pls feel free, say all you want to say about her and be as harsh as possible, this will at least help you get over some of the steam.
when all is done, realise 'beefing' someone isnt even the atheist way of doing things(ask huxley for help).
feel free to reply me in even a more angry tone,im ok with whatever helps you get over your inner disquiet.
I just imagine what you may be going through especially after reading her testimony
just know that Jesus is there for you, for when the smoke clears and you are alone in that dark corner of your room, jesus is reaching out to you, his loving arms wide open,
welcome him into your heart and you'll be glad you did.
then you'll see the difference,jesus loves you and i do too.
jesus is lord.

reindeer:

dear pussylover
eh ya
such level of repressed anger,
please feel free, say all you want to say about her and be as harsh as possible, this will at least help you get over some of the steam.
when all is done, realise 'beefing' someone isnt even the atheist way of doing things(ask huxley for help).
feel free to reply me in even a more angry tone,I'm ok with whatever helps you get over your inner disquiet.
I just imagine what you may be going through especially after reading her testimony
just know that Jesus is there for you, for when the smoke clears and you are alone in that dark corner of your room, jesus is reaching out to you, his loving arms wide open,
welcome him into your heart and you'll be glad you did.
then you'll see the difference,jesus loves you and i do too.
jesus is lord.

On the contrary, i won't reply you with an angry tone because you havent wronged me in any way and your entitled to your WRONG OPINION and i respect you for that. that's the beauty of a free world but a free world demands loyalty and respect and not savages claiming to be christians now and Islamists before?

Such attributes turn me off and even if she converted which i accept she has a right to, she shouldnt have been so wicked and disgusting in her remarks to now turn on muslims and insult them at random. What kind of a monster is that hiding behind a keyboard and ranting such wicked stories about a religion that she confessed didnt harm her before she saw an ephiphany?

It has nothing to do with letting out steam but actually pointing out issues that christians now fail to see just because she is a christian now and in your camp. Do you feel any safer that she is a christian now and tomorrow after seeing a halo she returns back to Islam and begins to insult the living day light from christians again.

Why have you all delibrately refused to point out that she once persecuted christians so terribly? Do you know the meaning of being a persecutor? To you it is easier to say forgive and forget but you tend to forget the thousands of people she shattered morally and spiritually in their christian faith. It is akin to having an executor killing people only to later regret that he killed people and is now asking for redemption.

If pilgrim can be forgiven then people like Osama bin Ladin, Saddam, Abacha, Hitler, Pol pot and a host of criminally minded demonic people should also be forgiven. She belongs in this committe of evil people. If you say Pilgrim should be forgiven for persecuting christians then No body should say one bad thing about Bin Ladin.

Today it is Muslims she is persecuting and you think that is a good thing to be encouraged? She did it with christians and nobody said anything now she has changed to Islam and nobody is saying anything and until she begins to attack your very existence of survival before you raise an alarm.

If Satan could be said to ever have a wife or princess of darkness definately she came in the form of pilgrim disguising hher self as a christian.

Noiw talking about her infamous tabloid junkie of a testimony story is what actually killed her. I am sure when she was writing this, she thought she would win some praises, not knowning it was her final death knell. What crock of rubbish that story was. Everything there was all about her show of shame in respect of fornicating between european boys and in between a romp of sexual pleasure, they were cajoling her to change to christianity to enjoy her nightly pleasures. For someone so heady that could boast that she dealt with christians in the past, what would make her now soft pedal? A mere oyinbo that was sick? Gimme a break! She didnt tell us the full story and she tried to mask that concoted fabrication that the boy jumped after she said jesus. Benny Hill would have been more ingenious that this fraudster.

What about the fact that she had to shamefully disrespect her family especially her father by potraying him as a cry baby That was the height of being an ingrate to her father who nutured her and expose him to so much ridicule. Why make her father a cry baby in a fictious story? That's being inhuman to say the least. The poor man obviously doesnt know how his child has defamed him. Imagine me seeing her father tomorrow on the streets or someone that knows her father, do you think he would see him as a man or a cry baby? how come you havent disrespected your own father to make him look like a miserable cry baby?

And you say i hate her1 Hate is putting it mildly

P:s: Keep your prayers to yourself. I dont believe in them. The next time you want to pray, pray that poverty is eroded from this planet completely tomorrow, pray that Wars stop, Pray that all the hungry children in the world would get fed. Pray for a cure for Aids, Pray that a wicked demon like pilgrim should stop flip flopping on religious issues and stop embarassing her father.

wow!
The word really works.
The devil is out full force.
Pilgrims testimony is my signature.
For those who haven't read it,click on it and see why the gates of hell are shaken

@ pussy be a man and stop whining like a little sissy

pussylover:

And you say i hate her1 Hate is putting it mildly

. . . Pray that a wicked demon like pilgrim should stop flip flopping on religious issues and stop embarassing her father.

Lol, again I thank you for all your thoughts about me. Blessings.

@plus_Queen,

plus_Queen:

wow!
The word really works.

True, the Word works and there's nothing anyone can do about it. Jesus is Lord.

@Plus_Queen: « #57 on: Today at 02:05:23 AM »

@ pussy be a man and stop whining like a little sissy

Its a bodily function. You this woman. Somebody just have to give an outlet to talk
about Gym. You start, immediately talking about the tecnics and difficulty levels of
each style of gymnastics.

Boy, you can take the doctor out of the theater, but the theater out of the doctor,
thats the 64,000 Dollars question!

@Plus_Queen: « #59 on: Today at 07:38:20 AM »

@plus_Queen,


Quote from: plus_Queen on Today at 02:04:25 AM
wow!
The word really works.

True, the Word works and there's nothing anyone can do about it. Jesus is Lord.

I just finished my morning prayers. Alhamdulillah. Was Jesus not the "word?"
He is also the "lord?"

lol. WHICH LORD GOD SPOKE THE "Word," then? Was it Jesus or some other "God"?
Baby, I will meet you bare knuckle to bare knuckle! You got to answer my "questions."

olabowale:

You got to answer my "questions."

I don't need to - and that has been made clear so many times:
I'm not interested in any Islamic arguments on the forum.

Pilgrim.1 may the Lord Jesus Christ continue to strengthen u,may His Grace and Favor continually be upon u,may His Light,Love n Power continue to shine to the world thru u.Amen!