tonye-t:

Do you believe God exist?

huxley:

Which god are you talking about?

benedictac:

I am not a fool coz it is only a fool that believe God doesnt exist.

Ps 14:1 ¶ The fool hath said in his heart, There is no God. They are corrupt, they have done abominable works; There is none that doeth good.

tonye-t:

Thank goodness you are here, now lets talk

the supposed creator of the Heavens and earth and every existing life!

huxley:

How do you know a god created the universe? When did he create it all?

huxley:

I am sure you will burn in hell for saying the above. This is what Jesus said in Matthew 5: 22:

But I say unto you, That whosoever is angry with his brother without a cause shall be in danger of the judgment: and whosoever shall say to his brother, Raca, shall be in danger of the council: but whosoever shall say, Thou fool, shall be in danger of hell fire.


Now, how do you feel about calling people who do not believe in god fools?

tonye-t:

beautiful! now how do you know the world wasnt created by something

tonye-t:

beautiful! now how do you know the world wasnt created by something

Okija_juju:

Finally a thread I will love.

Cos, O! I almost forgot, I'm n huxley.

tonye-t:

yeah i put it to you now that a personality created this world and av got the[b] bible [/b]to proof it

if you say no, then bro you should have a written proof to back your claim aint it?

tonye-t:

you are welcome to either oppose or back my motion, welcome and say something

everyone saying something here should take a side

huxley:

How do you know a god created the universe?   When did he create it all?

benedictac:

so what would you call those that say God doesnt exist? the wise?

Okija_juju:


@ Benedictac

What would you call a man who believes in SANTA CLAUSE??

tonye-t:

yeah i put it to you now that a personality created this world and av got the bible to proof it

if you say no, then bro you should have a written proof to back your claim aint it?

Pastor AIO:

Must I take a side. How about if I just sit on the fence?
What is a god? Any definitions? Just so that we know what we are talking about.

The unconvinced?A Big Baby! Oh, I Forgot. I'm not benedictac.
What do you mean by personality? definitions please!

tonye-t:

yeah i put it to you now that a personality created this world and av got the bible to proof it

if you say no, then bro you should have a written proof to back your claim aint it?

tonye-t:

yeah i put it to you now that a personality created this world and av got the bible to proof it

if you say no, then bro you should have a written proof to back your claim aint it?

Okija_juju:

Your bible proof is flawed. Tower of Babel, Shedrach and co., Daniel and the lion, Jonah and the whale, Noah and the titanic, Feeding a multitude with 5bread and 2 fishes _{(with 12 baskets of leftovers)}, e.t.c.

So if the only proof to your claims is the bible, then you have no arguement cos we will only end up derailing the thread.

tonye-t:

@Okija_juju
if i say i believe in the true existence of a creator invisible, then i must have heard, seen or perceived it from somewhere, which is for me nothing more than the HOLY BIBLE

even athiest believe something, what if you may ask? -"they believe that God does not exist"

@pastor AIO,

brother with all due respect,if you choose not to take side, then u aint welcomed here

@Huxley,

now back to your questions,yeah at least Huxley you have accepted that at least a document should be used to back our claims, because if we claim we believe something then we must have seen, listened/heard, smelt or perceived it from somewhere that would have been documented, aint it?

if yes, then, lets see things from this perspective first

1. i was born black, from black parents, i grew up and saw my skin dark, my parents dark so to say,and understood the color representation of the word black from a DOCUMENT(s), with all this i have come to believe with no doubt that i am a black,isnt it?

good>>>>>

now, again, when we were all born, we came out, grew up and came to understand what food meant, now you and i eat because we have both come to believe (from eating, smelling, perceiving, experience) that food gives life or at least keeps us alive, isnt it?

also>>>>

when you were born, your momma only had to see your genital to know that you are a male, you grew up, saw for yourself how male genitals differed from the females, this you did with your eyes, and perception , inotherwords, you have come to believe for yourself that you are a male

now all this you accepted, irrespective of the fact that others have seen, heard or perceived for themselves, isnt it

with this , i put it to say that

you and I were born, and we came out to hear and see people say that a force, creator, influence, spirit, object, alegory somewhere created the universe, with this and our personal experience we should accept that a god God exist somewhere



disproof me if you can

huxley:

how

3) Why you think the bible offers proof that it was god who did it. Why do you consider the bible the world of god? Have you consider that his word might actually be The Egyptian book of the Dead, or the Verdas, or the Koran, or any of the holy books of the thousands of religions some extinct, some still with us?

i put it to you that those great books were even more evidence of the proof of my self claimed God, you bring out this books like a weapon, yet you have not really gone through them properly
read them again and you will find them giving proofs that "my God" exist 

mr. Huxley pls i beg you to give me a proof that your believe that my God doesnt exist is true

be a good debater pls

tonye-t:


i put it to you that those great books were even more evidence of the proof of self claimed God, you bring out this books like a weapon, yet you have not really gone through them properly
read them again and you will find them giving proofs that "my God" exist 

mr. Huxley pls i beg you to give me a proof that your believe that my God doesnt exist is true

be a good debater pls

Okija_juju:

Tonye

I dont believe your God exists. The onus of proof is on you.

The bible is not evidence of nothing, otherwise storybooks would be evidence of the existence of Cinderella.

tonye-t:



all ye athiest come on! where are you , constructive debate not destructive ones pls

toneyb:

Please can you show us one of the proofs that your god exist? if your god exist will we be here debating his existence? why aren't debating the existence of the stars?

tonye-t:

beautiful,just the exact question i have craved for,

now as a good debater i say i will prove mine from my document i call the "BIBLE"

now from my document:  John.1:1 - "In the beginning was the word (my God), and the word was with God, and the word was God (my God) >>>>>>vs. 3 says "all things were made by my God, and nothing was made without Him (my God) that was made"

feed yourself with this one proof from my archives, if you so wish

now prove to me that my God doesnt exist, come on!

OLAADEGBU:



This explains why theists who know the true God and have a personal relationship with Him on a daily basis would need no convincing on the existence of God not and this only shows the positions of atheists and agnostics as foolish and unnecessary worldviews to take.