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lordfalcao:
the only reason the left wing is targeted is because Cahill is the weakest of the back three that's all it has nothing to do with the wing back.

lordfalcao:
Marcos Alonso in the premier league this season defensively... Although helping the Otu of player called Cahill he still pull this numbers in 13 games..

Important to the cause.

Sometimes it's you people forget what you watched on Telly.

donjazet:
Although I wouldn't mind cahill getting his azz glued to the bench.

Lest we forget.

Scapegoating.

randomperson:
[s]
You deserve a medal for displaying this degree of stupidity.

If we're comparing the players by position, real Madrid have had a better team for the past three years. Yet in that time, barca has won two league titles.

And it's just plain foolhardiness to attempt to argue that coaches don't affect the success of their team. The mere fact that some coaches are sought after more than others rubbishes that position. Ferguson is better than allerdyce. If Ferguson is your coach, you're more likely to win trophies than if allerdyce or Moyes was your coach.

By all parameters , Messi is better and has achieved more than Ronaldo. If you don't like it,locate a river close by and do the needful[/s]

You can only compare coaches when they are competing from a position of similar strength.

How is Ferguson definitely better than Allardyce? Has Allardyce managed a team of Manyoo's strength and resources and flopped? Has Ferguson managed a relegation team and failed to keep them afloat?

So how do you know who is better than who?

You don't fool anybody with your faux intellect bro. Even if you put on a wig and donned a Burka, we would still recognise you as just another stüpid angry Barkabot

Bounce to the left fam.

There's a reason why I only deal with 3 or 4 people on this thread. You're always the first to quote me, but you'll never be one of them.

Ibime:
As of today's date Cahill is in EPL Team of the Year

Any team of the year that has Cahill ahead of Azpilicuata for last season must be discarded to the dustbin of history with alacrity.

randomperson:
[s]All I see here is cowardice.... Because you don't have a rebuttal to the points I made, u conveniently omitted the major part of my comment so you won't respond to it.

.Repeating a stupid argument many times doesn't increase its credibility. This argument you're making was stup.id the first time you made it, and it's still stuppid now. You can't just pick 2 or 3 players from a team and conclude that one team is better than the other. In fact,_ you should consider not just the starting eleven but the major subz.

Then, you consider the coaches. Unless you wanna argue that how good a coach is has no effect on the success of the team.

So. Yes am going to sleep because your argument has been noted and evenly demolished. When you're ready to stop chickening out and make actual points, wake me up[/s].

Oga shut the fück up and gerrout of my mentions. You quoted me, I honestly don't send you.

Simple fact of the matter is that Real Madrid is better than Man City..because Madrid have better players not because Madrid has a better coach.

Show me a time when Ororo played with the same quality of players that Messi has been playing with, or bounce to the left to join your fellow Barkabots.

randomperson:
Anyone with a basic understanding of football knows that a team is more than two or three players.

Don't be daft.

Between Xavi Iniesta Ronaldinho Etoo Ibra Neymar Suarez, Messi has played with players who were ranked top 5 in the Balon Dor while playing alongside him. If I expand to top twenty, the list will cover the entire Barcelona squad.

Either show me a similar situation where Ronaldo is playing with multiple top 5 ranked players in his dressing room at any one time or shut the fück up and miss me with the epistle.

Ibime:
The way we dey diss and discard our players no be here mehn.

You mean the same Cahill that was a rock Vs Bayern and Barca in UCL, was a rock Vs Benfica in Europa League etc is being dissed like this?

.

What year was this sir?

And then what's todays date?

randomperson:
This guy and his penchant for idiotic comments.

Ronaldo played with cassilas, van der sat, Ferdinand, vidic , Rooney, Carlos tecez,Raul ozil, scholes, giggs.

Name the equivalent players there to Xavi, Iniesta and Ronaldinho or go and sleep

Dongorgon5:
Nobody is hating on those average players
Any sane and sensible person knows we need to upgrade Cahill, Matic and Alonso.This thing is obvious. The way some of you reason sef.

Oboi I just weak. Anybody that says we should continue with Cahill as a starter is an enemy of the club.

Yonce:
Have you heard that if Ronaldo played with xavi or iniesta he'd have way more goals for club than he does now?
Those men where beasts in their prime so wtf are you talking about?

It's ridiculous.

They keep shouting Higuain and ADM. At least Ororo managed to squeeze 2 trophies out of those clowns.

Messi with those two and no Xavi/Iniesta/Dinho/Neymar/fill in the gap has nothing but an assiete of heartbreak to show for it.

kinggogo:
My God!!!

Is there any lame excuse you madrid fans won't come up with??

Y didn't you mention Kaka, Higuain, Ozil, Dimaria

This is a joke innit.

Kaka that was already finished by the time he came to Madrid? And the less said about those other people the better.

Messi played with a reigning 2 time WPOTY not one that won it two years ago and came to Spain to cope instant 8 months injury.

Played with reigning African player of the year.

Played with multiple reigning WPOTY and Balon Dor podium finalists.

Played with multiple reigning World Cup and Euro winners

Played with multiple reigning UEFA And FIFpro TOTY finalists.

You're calling Ozil and Di Maria.

You for mention Arbeloa as well.

If you no dey shame, I go shame for you.

Go and sleep bro. You lost already.

Ibime:
Ramos is a Sevilla product.

Carvahal is their only first teamer from youth team.

However, most of their substitutes are from the youth team

Carvajal sef is not even a direct graduate. He was bought back from Leverkusen.

pamcode:
how did Madrid get their World class players? I might be wrong but only Ramos seems to have come through the academy.

Sergio Ramos was a 1st team player at Seville before Madrid signed him.

He's not their academy player.

tesppidd:
lol. initially you were mentioning drenthe, adebayo, wes brown. then after hitting you with a lot of super super super stars your boy played with next thing you said was, name the ballon dor winners and world cup winners ronaldo ever played with. then after naming about 5 world cup winners and 1 ballon dor winner, you are again asking for a tabulated format and probably a graph showing who messi has played with and who ronaldo has played with. do you want me to plot messi on the x axis and ronaldo on the y axis? or do I do it vice versa?

You hit me with a list of 5 players bro. 5.

None of of which were Balon Dor winners or Podium finalists.

If you can only think of 5 players that were upper echelon when they played with Ororo then there's a problem.

The funny things is the real list I asked you for, you haven't produced.

You have time to be writing epistles and the number of players Ororo has played with, but your hand dey pain you to list the Messi equivalents?

Bro go and sleep. You lost already.

Emaprince:
errrmmm... e be like say na only you remain for this thread at this point.

Dem don ghost be that.

Typical barkabot behaviour. They will never admit that their mans success at Barka is in no small part due to stellar array of talent playing alongside him at Barka.

Remove him from Barka settings and na back to back to back flop for Argentina.

Until you win Balon Dor playing next to Darren Fletcher and Wes Brown, Eder and Jose Fonte, I don't wanna know.

If Ororo was playing with Xavi Iniesta Dinho etc, they woyld have renamed the trophy to Ororo D'or by now

Dipsett I'm still waiting o.

I know the list is pretty long and will take a while to compile but please hurry up.

tesppidd:
ozil alonso khedira ramos casillas world cup winners. kaka wpoty. if i may add mourinho and fergie are ballon dor winning coaches.

I did not ask for Who Ronaldo has played with.

I asked for Who Messi has played with. Or are you Barkabots dyslexic as well.

Help with with the number of World Cup winners and podium finalists Messi has played with or go back to bed.

Godstraight:
casillas,Ramos,Alonso world cup winners,kaka-balon don podium,end of story

Read the post you just replied to again.

nathaniel007:
Mr nihilist do now agree that Ronaldo played alongside a ballon d'or winner ?

My friend list the podium finalists Messi has played with or go to sleep.

tesppidd:
drenthe? lol. he was actually playing with tevez, scholes, giggs, rooney, evra, ferdinand, vidic, nani. then at another point in time with alonso, ozil, de maria, pepe, ramos, marclelo, khedira. all these while under the tutueleges of the great sir Alex Ferguson and the great Jose mourinho. he also had 2 of the best goalies watching his back casillas and van de sar.

Simple question.

List the number of Balon Dor and Wpoty podium finalists Messi has played with

Then do the same for Ororo.

List the number of World Cup and Euro winners Messi has played witb, and do the same for Ororo.

List the number of Fifpro or UEFA TOTY finalists both players have played with.

Then come here and make your point.

I'll wait.

nathaniel007:
kaka

Good.

Now do the same for Messi. Just list Messi's past or present teammates with podium finishes

I will even overlook the fact that the kaka at Madrid spent most of his time in the sick bay.

nathaniel007:
before Ronaldo's 30th was playing with ozil, scholes , rooney , giggs, benzema, alonso, tevez, Di maria

before Messi's 30th he was playing with douglas, alex song, hleb, chygryskiy, milito and pinto

Context is key

Just look at your self.

Point out one Balon Dor and WPOTY podium finalist from that Ororo list.

Point out the number of World Cup and Euro winners in that list.

Point out anytime in Ororo's career when he has played with a Balon Dor winner in his team.

Bros go and sleep. You have literally Zero point.

tesppidd:
wow! it's so clear who's been the leader and who's been the guy playing catch up.

Context though.

Before Messi's 30th he was playing with Xavi, Iniesta, Ronaldinho, Igwe, Deco, Etoo, Neymar, Suarez, Alves, etc

Before Ororo's 30th he was playing with Wes Brown, Darren Fletcher, John Oshea, Royston Drenthe and Emanueal Adebayor.

Context is key.

Spy360:
Alexis vs Aguero

....your pick?

Alexis obviously

Sometimes I wonder if people watch our matches before commenting sef.

hensben:
See what they showed me

I think this might be the best they do actually...

Thecassanova:
Kai after Matic na Cahill again. Oga o

Our three back is okay, don't change that chemistry. Cahill was influential to our title wining not only defensively but also in attack. Having like 8 goals this season to substitute for his few errors no be beans.
.

No need for long story.

Cahill is the most calamitous defender in that team.

In terms of stats, he made the most errors leading directly to goals in that team in the league last seadon.

Not just that, he was also the only player in the entire team to score an own goal in the league last season.

And that's just the stuff I have the stats for. The number of times Cahill missed interceptions, got dribbled or failed to mark his man is probably in early hundreds

To put in it's proper perspective, Gary Cahill is the Chelsea player most directly responsible for conceded goals last season. And that's the person you say is fine.


I cannot trust a centreback who is a defensive liability simply because he's good at attacking the ball during corners, otherwise I would sign Gareth Mcauley from West Brom, who is an almost 40 year old centre back that managed the same number of league goals as Garri Cahill last season...also from set pieces.

When people are busy telling Cahill to hand his medal back to Conte, then you know that water don pass Gary...figuratively speaking.

hensben:
Please who can help me name the games we played 3-5-2 formation?

Whoscored will give you that in the formations tab

bigkesh:
Yeye Matic fanboys

Ibime,lalaboi and Hensben right now

Lmao

Omo this one na puff puff pass...

Emaprince:
We also need an upgrade on moses.

Dude have only been average both in defence and attack. I commend him for his descent defensive jobs because he never was a defender.. but as a natural winger, this guy can only run run run.. dribble and waste the ball on many occasions. He has little or no vision.

Passing- zero.. crossing- zero

Cedric Soares at Southampton isn't half bad o.

Once Matic goes, then Cahill should be next for the firing squad.

Alonso should be kept around to clear out the lockers of the transfer casualties, should just sit his äss on the bench.

Hopefully Conte can clear out that entire axis of evil on that left side.

E just pain me say we no sign Harry Maguire. That's a future England international.