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coogar: so which part of what you fonted in red says the new contract would worth less than the existing contract. i just can't stand people who wouldn't admit they are wrong.

4llerbuntu: of course you are done.

you have little knowledge of how player transfers work, and you don't want to know despite being told for free.


if you cannot fathom that what is being 'bought' is actually an assignment of an existing contract which involves a footballer then u cannot grasp the nuances.

since when do people buy contracts for less than its value? u mean if you have a contract worth 500 million with the federal govt you can assign it for 100 million?

why do you think 3rd party ownership is problematic? there's more than 1 person to convince to give up their rights under a contract and quite often each party wants a premium on their valuation of what will accrue to them over the term of the contract!
and this is even before negotiating with the player to enter into another one with you!

coogar: etoo was a free agent, rio was a free agent. no transfer fee was paid for any of them before moving to their new clubs. transpose that into garri/yam and let's see how clued up you are.



because you have belatedly seen your flaw. caroll was on £70k per week at liverpool & he signed a 5.5 years contracts - it means the value of caroll's contract at liverpool was around £19m.

west ham paid £16m for him after making his deal permanent. as at that time, caroll's contract was way less than what west ham paid for him. forget the £35m liverpool paid newcastle, they overpaid or overvalued caroll.

coogar: you are arguing in circles again. in what circumstance can you go to the market & get a sack of garri for free like everton got etoo for free? you are tying yourself in a tortuous knot of logic comparing players in a contract to food commodities - there's a universe of difference.

coogar: in other words, garri & yam have existing contracts on the shelf & you might get lucky to buy a basket of yam for free cos the contract of the yam ran out?

but in a circumstance where the player wishes to leave, what happens?

and since the selling club would never sell at a loss, it then means the buying club must be prepared to buy out the existing contract first & foremost before they can even get near the negotiating table. that's the key!

rooney could have gone to chelsea last season for £25m to £30m as he had 2 years left on his contract as at then at £200k/week. that's £10m x 2 =£20m. it then means chelsea were willing to add extra £5m to £10m to rooney's contract value if we were willing to sell.

you are just going round in circle. if a buying club were to approach rooney in january, how much do you think rooney's transfer fee would be. he's got 3 years left on his £300k/week contract.

coogar: you are looking at players like they are commodities like yams & garri. it's not so. when you buy a player, you are buying his existing contract & whatever it's on top which are determined by age, influence to the team(goals, points, etc)

coogar: rooney has a £15m per year contract he signed in feb this year. any buyer that wants to buy rooney in january next year must have £45m as his starting point cos rooney still has 3 years left on the contract. regardless of the buyer's valuation that rooney is crap - he must have £45m before he can even start negotiating.

coogar: the market value - to both the buyer & the seller. actually, this is how buy-out clause came to be. it serves as a starting point where the negotiation would start from.



value isn't subjective - price is.....
value is the same everywhere. something is either valuable or valueless. value is the bar, the price can then be over the value or under the value depending on the circumstance.

coogar: it's not rubbish - those are the key parameters in determining the value of a player. jeeeez, if they are rubbish, they won't make the headlines of all major newspapers across europe.

Purist: If you read the report, you'll see that they included details of the other guys you listed here as well. For instance, Madrid overpaid for Rodriguez too. Barca actually underpaid for Suarez. Chelsea underpaid for Fabregas, etc. CIES calculate using variables like age, contract length, goals, points per match, etc.

You can calculate yourself using their online tool: http://www.football-observatory.com/The-CIES-Football-Observatory-transfer-value

Dhellake: Ibime the dribbler

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A40: Milner, Welbeck too smart? Hahahaha mo daaran

Milner's intelligence means he can take on board a hastily imposed game plan and his dedication means he sticks to it. He is perhaps not Mr Right in the confusing scheme of greater, grander domination, but he is an excellent Mr Right Now.

It would be wrong, though, to paint Milner as a bloodless figure, some clanking iron man emerging from the sea with a tractor in each fist. In fact he has two qualities often missing in English footballers, tactical intelligence and physical robustness. This is a man who has played more than 500 professional matches at the age of 26

The fans, in particular, have never really warmed to Sturridge since he moved to London on a free transfer from Manchester City back in 2009. His individual style of play, a combination of trickery and excellent footwork, is not always favoured by the Chelsea supporters. Mix in his tendency to shoot from range rather than pick out a teammate, and Sturridge is usually the man to blame if the West Londoners fail to take their chances in front of goal.

In football, any player that possesses a high level of confidence in their ability is sometimes prone to becoming over confident. Take Zlatan Ibrahimovic as an example. The Swede is a huge asset to Paris Saint-Germain and his country Sweden, but sometimes his belief in his own ability is high enough to alienate his teammates and cause unrest in the squad. This isn't so much the case with Sturridge, but his focus of scoring individual goals as opposed to team goals could be a reason as to why his chances have been limited on Kings Road.

Dhellake: Sturiddge was also starting in big domestic and European games, he even won us some big games, as much as he was played out of position, he got into double figures for us, what more?? Welbeck can't be selfish when he can't even dribble, he can't even think out of the box, he plays football the raw way, that's not intelligence, compare their goals, their movements and you would know who is more intelligent

afrodoc2: You have to look at the context, why won't Sturridge have played matches that season? He was competing with Darius Vassell, Benjani,and Valeri Bojinov
Welbeck was competing with Rooney,Tevez,Berbatov,Cristiano Ronaldo and Louis Saha

Tell me who would get more opportunities?

A40: You this ret@rded phaggot again?? If you don't have anything intelligent to say why not do humanity a favor and asphyxiate yourself

Dhellake: Forget about national team, Bernard plays for Brazil while Coutinho doesn't, as at 08/09 season, Sturridge was already starting league games, he played 16 games, scored 4, 3assists, Scored 8 goals in 12 while on loan at Bolton, He dribbles better, obviously has more football intelligence than Welbeck, how then was Welbeck a better"TALENT"??

PietroRico: this illiterate didn't see was there. Smh.

Dhellake: Can you expantiate what you mean by a better talent??