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I don’t understand how/why all our players look really bad. As in, they play like some Julius Berger signings. Make it make sense na.

TheLequte:
That assist was more difficult to execute than the miscued shot. How many professional players would lago in that situation?

We’ve overplayed him. He needs some rest on the bench.

You last sentence makes more sense. Garnacho has been our only attacking outlet since Amad got injured. Bar Bruno who is a midfielder.

eph12:
I could have sworn that it was the set up that caused that, not a mistake. God forbid these players make any mistake

Na you sabi. Hoping we win Europa so we can attract Amorim’s type of players. We will sign magicians during the summer, don’t worry.

TheLequte:
Garnacho lol. No surprises there. I was expecting no less than that.

Mistake no dey your dictionary. You did not comment when he provided an assist o. The same game.

eph12:
of course its the set up. When they played 433, they were fantastic

Lol, just telling you that they are not mutually exclusive. Don’t just say the players are shyte!

eph12:
The midfield has even collapsed now. They are not agile and physical enough. Just the story of this team in the EPL

I hope you will blame the set up as well. Not just the players.

Men mount!

spillo1:
Apart from the amount being a little high I don't get the Animus about the Mount signing. I keep seeing he was injury prone but he wasn't before we signed him. He was hardly missing any game at Chelsea. The season before we bought him he missed only 13games for Chelsea with injury. Mazaroui missed 17games for Bayern last season, De ligt missed 23games. It's a shame injury has has kept Mount from actually performing to his ability.

They will tell you he was on a decline. Mount is actually a good player fit for whatever style ETH was implementing. Also looks like Amorin likes him, and if thing gel, he might be one of the key players for his system.

Abeg, we need like 5:0 so they can’t ever dream of a come back in the second leg.

Erasmus! Hoping this helps his confidence for the mid week game.

Jamiuokolaa:
The funny thing is that the trend has disappeared in the PL for whatever reasons..

Abi when last you hear that phrase?

After some high profile goalkeeping errors in the PL 2 seasons ago thereabouts, everybody re-align sharply

Good and interesting observation. Number one and the primary job of a keeper is goalkeeping, not ball playing. But what do I know?

odizeey:
🤣🤣
How he lost his ball playing abilities is a wonder to me.

Lool. E shock me sef.

CapitalCee:
We need to improve on Onana, any well deserved taken shot on target is a goal.

I remember when everyone was saying a ball playing keeper is the trend. We need to play out from the back. We maltreated DDG and went to pick the best GK in the UCL (at the time), who is not only bad at keeping the ball, but somehow lost his ball playing skill in less than one year after signing him.

15 premier league defeats in a season. Another record loading. These guys are not 15th position players. This team is better than its current position.

Amorimball is not for us.

afrodoc:
Before we go ahead.

Are the coaches frauds or good coaches?

Final answer.

You can call a friend or ask the audience.

At this point, you are doing this to win an argument. I can’t help so I will skip. Next question!

afrodoc2:
Hehehehe.

When nitrogen was coming here to scream "Get this fraud out of my club", for coach after coach, that time he didn't know that they were good coaches.

Now that it is time to defend the Glazers and board for appointing fraud after fraud, now we are wearing that actually they were not frauds but good coaches.

How can frauds be good coaches.

Exhibit A.



Exhibit B


Exhibit C


Exhibit D

Lol. Thanks for digging up the exhibits. E plenty like water in case you want more. However, they don’t negate my point which is Man Utd mostly signed good players and managers with the fans always very excited about the hires. ETH, Mou, LVG, Amorim were/are good managers, and me asking them to be sacked after a few months or years of underperformance does not negate the fact that they were among the best at the time they joined us. Same with about 70% of the players signed.

Jamiuokolaa:


Thats because i have sensed potential excuses..

We struggle next season - its because we didn't buy osihmen

Correct guy. All (potential) leakages blocked.

Jamiuokolaa:
One would have thought that the top half teams all have osihmen as CF

Omo, why you come go hang CC for ceiling na?

Bombblacks:
You all keep missing his point. Before Eth came to United he was one of the most sort after young managers in the game just like Amorim. Eth Ajax side was lauded for his achievement and style of play hence his point of United hiring managers that were good and highly rated. It didn't work out doesn't mean the club was wrong in considering and hiring him. You guys will read A and turn it to Z.

I don tire. You are right, they are just doing this intentionally.

Trevor012:
The same clowns who asked for a pure destroyer are now lying lol. The same people who asked for a ball playing keeper denied Onana within two seasons. Even if we buy Lamine Yamal and he flops, the same people that wanted him will blame the club for wasting money on him. United fans are confused 😂😂

See them changing their mouths now. Na correct juju. They are saying we now need players that can single-handedly hold their own. Loool. What does that even mean?

afrodoc:
When i read that part i just looked at the screen modafukaly.

nitrobobo will say ANYTHING to defend those people. ANYTHING. Imagine now calling Ole, ETH, and Amorim good coaches. Just so it won't be said that the board has been appointing frauds.

Loool. Issokay. Not like these managers are bad. They just did not make things work at UTD. Btw, you conveniently excluded Van Gaal and Mou. We go dey alright.

afrodoc:
Matic and Herrera were great players?

Wow, so Matic was not one of the leading midfielders at some point in the EPL? Herrera was a very good player as well. I don’t know what your definition of great and good is. I am not saying the best or greatest o. Just go and meet Elon to take you to Mars so you can sign Aliens for Man Utd.

Trevor012:
United fans that are confused. The ball playing goalkeeper they wanted they have turned on 😂. Werey people that they were shouting "We need a destroyer in midfield, We need a pure destroyer in midfield" Same clowns turned against Casemiro and they are already turning against Ugarte. The same people crying for a goalscorer will turn against the striker with useless excuse like " He is holding our other attackers back, he does not press or drop deep, players are always passing to him, he is taking too much shots" lmao. This fanbase is confused 😂😂

It’s insane. Ugarte is a destroyer. We know he is not too technical but we wanted a DM that is quite physical while the CMs and AMs do their technical stuff. Now our fans are beginning to question his acquisition. We want the full package. How many ‘full package’ DMs exist then and today?

Bombblacks:
There's no Epl player with 10% physicality.

You have created a scenario of Fred and Eriksen in midfield which never happened. Like I said stop creating false narrative.

Have we bought different profiles of midfielder over the years. Yes or No?

Naso dem dey do. At this point, we should go get Aliens to come play for Man Utd. I don’t know why almost all 11 players on the pitch should be perfect.

Fact is we have bought good players in the past. Our midfield has seen several great players from Matic to Pogba to Herrera. All our transfers can be found here - https://www.transfermarkt.us/manchester-united/alletransfers/verein/985

Whether we overpaid or not is an unrelated question.

afrodoc:
My post about Yamal that you referred to was not in any way asking them to keep a manager for 1-3 years. I was only saying i will not be impressed by any footballer coming into this club again based on what the player has done elsewhere, because we have seen many people come here and fail.

The same applies to managers too. And directors etc. All that hype new players, manager, owners get here should stop. Until we see what they can do FOR THE CLUB and IN THE CLUB, i am not moved.

But in your desperation and rush to act contrarian and run everything as agenda, you will add the debate of 10 years ago and that of 10 minutes ago together and confuse yourself.

And to your question about whether they bought good or better players. The answer is no. They did not. When the whole league was moving towards players that combined high level physicality and high-level technicality we kept on buying players that were too weak or too slow or struggled to control the ball. Just look at the way the Newcastle that physically bullied us a few days ago was physically bullied by Aton Villa.

And you should not look at things in isolation. By wasting huge money on useless or inadequate players it has now tied our hands in the transfer market as we can't spend as much as we would like to. A 20million player might be a good player but if you buy him for 80m you are failing at your duty. If you repeat it from 4-5 players, you are putting your club's future at risk.

It is crucial that we not only buy good players but at a good price, so that if they fail, they do not handicap the club's future.

Stop combining arguments of 10 years together like someone cooking edikaikong. I was talking about us not hyping people before they come into the club. I don't know where you and your coven turned it into not sacking underperforming manager. I have no affiliation to Amorin. Even when we signed him i was asking people here to tell us more about his style before i now went to watch videos on him.

Oh my! I mentioned Yamal out of the blues given he is arguably the best young player today. Now I know what’s going on.

Regarding the players bought over the years, I believe it has been the right mix of technicality and physicality. You can’t have the best of both worlds. We’ve had a good mix of technical and physical attackers, midfielders and defenders over the last 10 years, no?

If we had not spent the huge funds for player acquisitions, fans would still have complained that we did not spend like Chelsea and City who were our competition. Where do you want to see top or even average player to buy for 10-30m? Including 10 years ago. Also, the funds would have gone to other things.

I made ref to managers because you said the excuse that these players were doing well previously also applies to manager signings. Yes it is true, and I am telling you that they got good managers (same way they got good players), it just did not work in some instances and the reasonable thing that should and would always happen is to sack the manager vs a group of relatively new players given the economic and financial consequences.

afrodoc:
Do our scouts and board buy well?

Let's leave the confusion in your mind when the same board that according to you keeps hiring the wrong coaches is somehow managing to buy the right players.

We said no to Toni Kroos when Moyes wanted him and got Fellaini instead.

When Gabriel Barbosa and Gabriel Jesus were available, we tried to get Barbosa while Jesus went to City. Barbosa finally came to Europe and failed quickly before heading back to Brazil.

When Antony and Raphinha were available we paid 82m for Antony while Raphinha went to Barca for 50m.

We bought AWB (a RIGHTBACK o) who was obviously never going to be a top-level footballer for 50m. We bought Maguire a molue-slow CB from a lower level EPL team for 80m. This was YEARS ago, and even now top-level strikers are still going for 60-70m. But we bought 2 mediocre defenders for 130m.

If we have been appointing the wrong coaches for years, then we have also been buying the wrong players for years. People here keep talking about how the players can't be bad since they were doing well at their previous clubs before coming here. Well, that excuse can also be made for the managers. They also were doing well in their previous clubs before coming here.

My point was that fans should not get too giddy over any new signing based off reputation until they show us their quality in our club, but you and your coven of contrarian spirits must always find something to complain about.

Question is did they on average buy good/better players over the years or not? Whether the prices make sense or not would depend on perspectives, not forgetting the level of desperation from top to bottom to return to glory days. We can argue price vs valuation from today till tomorrow, but the main point is at the time of purchasing the players irrespective of prices, they bought good players.

I agree that the excuse can be made for managers signed. Yes, they made some mistakes, but they also went for better to the best managers available. It just did not work in some instances and firing underperforming managers (which by the way does not mean they are bad managers, it just did not work) is normal as it’s easier to do than to fire majority of new players. Other clubs do it, so why should we be sticking with underperforming managers for more than 1-3 years (depending on the circumstances)? With salaries and termination costs, each manager barely scratch 50m. While buying one player could cost us close to that on average.

adisaaowala:
Players we swore to be significantly better than ours..time to buy them reach, story begin enter

Naso now. After buying, they will start saying our scouts and board don’t buy well. We should have gone for a player like Yamal.

Jamiuokolaa:
It has been a disastrous performance from Amorim...

For better context, Vitor Pereira, his Portugese brother, joined Wolves only in December

Seems Wolves squad is better. Don’t worry. We will win Europa league and buy Amorim’s players for him so we can start winning league games.

CrystalTiger:
If the clubs summer budget is $100m, it should just go to the forward line.. We can't head into the season with this forwards..

There is no budget without UCL football.

Debroslink:
Be careful and stay humble

Bilbao stadium is hosting the final

They have Man Utd home and away last time out.

They are currently top 4 on the table.

Leave them na. Even when Man Utd was a complete side during Ferguson’s time, we struggled against Spanish sides including Bilbao.

This game broke many records.

Delusional fans expecting another comeback?