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Romance › Re: It Is Unnatural To Be Gay, No One Is Born That Way by nobilis: 6:45pm On May 26, 2018

Klinee:
Are you a suicide bomber? how do you know that a suicide bomber doesn't have the natural feeling of bombing?
Can you suicide bomber if given opportunity?
In the history of world, have registered many suicide bomber who are educated, who are not religious inclined,
who nobody taught how to hate any devilish group of people rather nature made him to do so.
Me myself can assure that if given opportunity to enter gay zone I will 100%suicide bomb and die with them, that is also natural feeling I have inside me.

Intentional I don't want to die but my suicide bombing feeling is pushing me to death

But most them(suicide bombers) will not experiment it because the avenue to explore their feeling is not on ground.
There many suicide bombers around you but the environment do not give them the opportunity to explore their feeling, so if he happen to get the opportunity you will see him utilize it immediately.

Okay.

I think you are trying to trivialize this argument just to score a cheap point.
Suicide bombing is an act of terrorism.
Terrorism is not a feeling.
And a terrorist is a criminal.

And now you're telling me that for someone to be indoctrinated into wanting to kill himself and kill others, it is a natural feeling huh

Okay,for the sake of argument, let me say I'm open to the opinion that it is a natural feeling.

Now when you said homosexuality is unnatural, we showed you instances of homosexual behavior in other species in nature apart from man.

Now I'm saying suicide bombing is unnatural.
Show us instances of suicide bombing behavior in other natural species apart from man to prove that suicide bombing is a natural feeling.

Fashion › Re: Please How Do You Use Cream For Maximum Effect On Skin by nobilis: 6:12pm On May 26, 2018

FortifiedCity:
Which man is concerned about rubbing cream? Hian

If na only me, people wey dey produce cream go hear am

If you don't use cream, there are people who do.

You clearly saw the title to the post.
You know you have nothing to contribute yet you just came to comment to show us that you don't rub cream and that factories that produce cream will fold if it's only your kind of person exists in the world.

Now that you've told us you don't rub cream, are you happy with yourself?

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Fashion › Re: Please How Do You Use Cream For Maximum Effect On Skin by nobilis: 6:10pm On May 26, 2018

blogfornigeria:
I know this is awkward question but my friend
bought a cream and want to know the best way to use it so it can WOrk well....

In the morning after bathing or night? Etc..

It depends on the cream and what he/she wants to achieve with it.

Romance › Re: It Is Unnatural To Be Gay, No One Is Born That Way by nobilis: 5:56pm On May 26, 2018

Klinee:
Can you explain what will warrant a person to take a bomb even at the point of his own death, blast it?

If that person has little or no education and is deeply religious
and you teach him to hate people who are of a different than his own
and you teach him that his religion is the Supreme and ultimate religion
and you tell that person that if he straps a bomb to himself and goes into the midst of people of who are infidels and he dies during the blast and kills as many infidels as possible, that his place in heaven will be secured with several benefits,
then he will strap a bomb to himself and blast himself to smithereens.

That's how suicide bombers are made.

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Romance › Re: It Is Unnatural To Be Gay, No One Is Born That Way by nobilis: 4:20pm On May 26, 2018

UDUJ:
I am a Scientist, so I bring my arguments from Science and not religion.Science says there are no such thing as absolutely “hetero” or “homo” sexual people.

All of us are only juggling between our dominant traits. Are you socially identify as straight? That means you are more than 50% heterosexual and less than 50% homosexual.

Were we always born this way?
Yes and No.

I know it is not popular, but people only pick inconvenient truths that suits their agenda. Only political people will provide absolute “yes” or “no” answer to give stronger argument to their cause.

Our hormones and the development of our brains determine how we will end up throughout our life. This leads to some early homophobes to experiment with hormonal therapy to “cure homosexuality”, which only damages their “patient” further. Some people are simply born with certain condition that leads them to have homosexual preference, which may change over time. Some are the otherwise, started as straight guy, and then suddenly “come out” as gay during later years.

While doing my Masters I had a Dutch classmate who was convinced that he was straight, he turned out later to be gay. He had dated so many girls, but couldn’t settle on one, until he found his man. I asked him if he was too shy or facing any social pressure to hide his sexuality? He just said simply said no, and he said that he was just confused. I asked him, if he knew that there are many gay people already, would it make him feel better? He just said no, he simply changed after puberty, that’s all. So yeah, they were not always born to be straight either.

Now, for political purpose, if you say “yes”, think again. Some questions also asked for example like why there are not so many people born to be gay, is it just because of deviation in our genetics that affects small number of people or what? The answer will pretty much hurt anyone’s self-esteem. So, please go back to real science. Some people are indeed born that way and stayed consistent throughout their whole life, some people simply don’t, and they change.

The gene that makes some people to be born with a lack of melanin that causes their skin to appear pinkish (people love to call it “white”) is also recessive too, and less than 25% of the world population are born with it. Yet, some of them are immensely proud of it and push the idea that they are actually superior.

I think this shouldn’t be about whether you are born with it or not.
The real question is, why bother? It is everyone’s own personal life, not mine or yours.

We should punish sexual offenders, but not one’s sexual orientation. I honestly can’t think why people are still bothered by this. There are people out there doing things like trafficking humans, making snuff films, enslaving other humans, committing animal cruelty, destroying pristine environment, and so on, which should bother us.

Cases like sodomy in prison between male inmates, despite being not gay shows that our sexuality orientation is actually very fluid and compromising.

Identity politics has grouped us into these three sexual orientations (Gay, Straight or Bi) and made us villify each other. It has no basis whatsoever on real scientific findings.

This is so apt.
A bottle of champagne for you.

People are here talking as if everything in nature is either black or white.

If people knew how much nature juggles with our genes and chromosomes to create an amazing variety of things just to satisfy her weird sense of humor, people won't be here trying to form like they know what exactly nature is doing.

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Romance › Re: It Is Unnatural To Be Gay, No One Is Born That Way by nobilis: 4:11pm On May 26, 2018

mhisbliss:
What are you saying

LOL.
I thought you are claiming to know everything.

Simple psychosexuality that was thrown at you, you're now confused and you're asking what he is saying.

Kikikikikiki
grin

Romance › Re: It Is Unnatural To Be Gay, No One Is Born That Way by nobilis: 4:07pm On May 26, 2018

ubunja:
and to prove how senseless you continue to be, here is another quote of mine from earlier in the thread. notice how i dont even bother to speak on whether or not homosexuality is natural or un-natural. check it out:

You keep celebrating your foolishness.
You said if women can have rights, then gays too and then animal fvckers.

And you think the sardonicism behind that statement is not obvious?

It's a pity.

Romance › Re: It Is Unnatural To Be Gay, No One Is Born That Way by nobilis: 4:04pm On May 26, 2018

mhisbliss:
Exactly my point, if lesbianism is natural, then that suicidal instict a suicide bomber has is also natural, they think we're white people

Are you okay?

You are comparing homosexuality to suicide bombing because the same way a person becomes gay is the same way a person becomes a suicide bomber?

Seriously, is something wrong with your head?

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Romance › Re: It Is Unnatural To Be Gay, No One Is Born That Way by nobilis: 3:55pm On May 26, 2018

ubunja:
here is my original text on animals

where did i say homosexuality was natural or un-natural?
i neither supported nor condemned. i was curious and just followed her line of reason to a logical conclusion and herself she failed to answer back sensibly. like you doing now.

Yea.
You're the sensible one.

Have you heard of implied statements before?
It is not every time that a person spells things out.
Sometimes when you say something, there is an implied understanding behind what you say.

For example,
Someone asks a conditional question thus: "if homosexuality is unnatural, then what about animals that practise it?" and you reply that "animals practise incest too, should you join them too?" it means you are agreeing with the condition spelt out in his question but you're now presenting a course of action alternative to that he set out in his question.

This is simple English grammar.
Very simple English grammar.

But obviously, you are mindless about what your statement implied.

When you think and feel you are wise, be careful about who you insult.

Go and learn English, bro

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Romance › Re: It Is Unnatural To Be Gay, No One Is Born That Way by nobilis: 3:45pm On May 26, 2018

mhisbliss:
Ya few girls have asked me out too, I'm not homophobic thanks to peter, but i just see gay people and wonder what went wrong with them

Oh!

You wonder what went wrong with them?

And after all your wondering, you concluded in your mind that it is a learned behavior.

You didn't do any research.
You didn't interview any gay people to find out how they came to be that way.
You didn't study all the previous researches that have been done on the subject matter.
You just decided on your own that it is a learned behavior.

Was that not foolish of you?

You're thanking God that you're not homophobic.
What do you think homophobia is?
Oh, you feel homophobia is when you are clamoring for their imprisonment and deaths?
You are homophobic if you are using your own opinion about gay people to judge them without actually trying to see things from their own point of view.

And you are indeed a bad friend.
If Peter is really your friend and you knew he was gay, and you really wanted to understand why he came to be that way, 10 years + is enough time to do your research and come to the understanding of what it means to be gay.

You're here celebrating your foolishness.

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Romance › Re: It Is Unnatural To Be Gay, No One Is Born That Way by nobilis: 3:28pm On May 26, 2018

mhisbliss:
It depends on what you call natural, check the paragraph where i referenced the design of the male and female sex organ, we have that instinct to reproduce, even when no one tell us what reproduction is, we know it by default,

We see the opposite sex, we get attracted, we catch feelings, this is what I'd call natural

In other words, you're saying that the only reason sex exists is for reproduction?

Can you listen to yourself?

Why do you use condom during sex?
Is condom use natural?
Why do you use contraceptives?
Is it natural?
Why do you engage in oral se.x?
Is your mouth a receptacle for the pe.nis?

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Romance › Re: It Is Unnatural To Be Gay, No One Is Born That Way by nobilis: 3:24pm On May 26, 2018

mhisbliss:
What differentiated us from lower animals is the fact that we can discern whats right and wrong, we're simply higher animals with heightened sense of reasoning, animals copulate with thier siblings and parents, but the reason why normal humans wouldn't do that is same reason why its abnormal to have homosexual tendencies

If you can't fvck your parents like they do, don't be homosexual as well

Good.

So we have agreed that homosexuality is not unnatural, right?

Romance › Re: It Is Unnatural To Be Gay, No One Is Born That Way by nobilis: 3:12pm On May 26, 2018

ubunja:
did you even read my first text on animals and homosexuality or you just vomiting senselessly?

I am vomiting senselessly.
Thank you.

But the post I quoted before making my comment was the very second post you made on this thread. The first post was about equal rights etc.

So please, where did your first text on animals and homosexuality disappear to and why is it not on the first page of this thread where the post I quoted clearly is?

Senseless person calling someone else senseless because he himself does not understand chronology.
SMH.

Romance › Re: It Is Unnatural To Be Gay, No One Is Born That Way by nobilis: 3:09pm On May 26, 2018

This is a very scientific case.

For those that say it is a societal problem that needs to be curtailed, please endeavor to tell us what the solution to the problem is.

Bear in mind, that being gay is not all about who a person has sex with. It is all about who a person is romantically attracted to and it is all about who a person yearns to form a romantic connection and bond with.
This is evident in the fact that there are many gay men who have sex with women and even married to women. And there are many lesbians who have sex with men and are married to men too.

And there are straight men who also have sex with men based on whatever arrangement they might have, maybe for pecuniary benefits. And that doesn't mean they are gay either.

So sexual orientation is not about sex.

Bearing that in mind, mention all the things you think are the solutions to the problem.
Tell us how you can stop someone from being romantically attracted to another person.
And also mention where you have actually seen your proffered solutions bearing fruits.
And also mention people who you know one on one, who claimed they used to be gay and after being put through these solutions, stopped having feelings for the same sex. (also bear in mind that a gay man can choose to stop having sex with men, that doesn't mean he has stopped having romantic feelings for men).

This is a challenge to you all.

It's not by making noise about natural or unnatural.

Let's go there.

I'm waiting.

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Romance › Re: It Is Unnatural To Be Gay, No One Is Born That Way by nobilis: 2:51pm On May 26, 2018

ubunja:
animals practice incest. you gona follow to?

Don't be shifting the main goal of the argument.

Whether animals practice incest or not is not the issue here.

The issue here is that the presence of homosexual behavior in animals is proof that homosexuality is not unnatural.

Agree and accept that point before moving onto something else.

Moreover, now that you mention incest, let's analyze that.

If you are basing your argument on the opinion that homosexuality is unnatural and is just a learnt behavior in humans, then tell me this.

Why is Incest, which is very natural and very rampant in the plant and animal kingdom, abhorred by humans?
Why is incest kicked against by humans even when it is very natural?

Romance › Re: It Is Unnatural To Be Gay, No One Is Born That Way by nobilis: 9:21am On May 26, 2018

UDUJ:
I read this article sometime back, but I am still not convinced.

Trying to prove that homosexuality has a significant genetic basis is very hard. The burden of proof is on those who wish to claim that it is genetic.

Most of the studies of genetic basis (of anything) are not randomized controlled trials (RCT). They are observational studies that simply look for correlations. Such studies are a much weaker form of evidence than RCTs.

Moreover, correlation does not necessarily imply causation.

Yea.
Correlation might not imply causation.
But correlation implies that there is some form of connection between the two items correlating.

For example, obesity is linked with heart diseases. It doesn't mean that obesity obesity causes heart diseases. But there is a connection.
There is a link.

You sound scientific but you are allowing your prejudices to somehow cloud your judgment.

If I tell you now that obesity is genetic, you will gladly accept it wholeheartedly without further question sef.
But if I tell you that homosexuality is genetic, you won't accept because you are averse to homosexuality and the thought of it makes you cringe.
But in actual fact, studies for the obesity gene and those for the homosexuality gene are progressing almost at the same pace.

Eschew prejudice and be open minded.
That's the only way you can make any sort of progress scientifically.

Nature is vast and multifaceted.
She has always resisted any attempts to place her in a box.
If you have any idea about genes, chromosomes and the amount of mutations that take place at our genetic and chromosomal levels, you will realize that, just like a child playing with pieces of Lego™, nature just experiments with anything and everything.
And that is why there are so many varieties in nature.

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Romance › Re: It Is Unnatural To Be Gay, No One Is Born That Way by nobilis: 8:59am On May 26, 2018

WORDWORLD:
I very much agree with you UDUJ. What else should be expected from 'PROFANE SCIENCE' which so called moderns pride themselves in this age of DECADENCE? Of course every ILLUSION to justifying all kinds of PERVERSION. Some supposed humans want to drag the rest of us HUMAN BEING through the DIRTY gutters of DOUBLE STANDARD. They tell us as a justification for homosexualism that EVEN AMONG ANIMALS, HOMOSEXUALISM IS PRACTICED EVEN THOUGH, SUCH A BEHAVIOUR SO, SO UNCOMMON, amids even animals. It but shows vividly that those who come up with such postulation are themselves ANIMALS, even worse for trying so hard to justify what is so UNHUMAN AND INHUMANE. If animalistic sexual tendencies should be accepted as a RATIONAL FACTOR for judging human sexuality and accepting them, then INCESTOUS PRACTICES by humans should not be ruled out of the equation in this so called modern day which is so dillusionalized by the word FREEDOM. An illusion propagated which is but an outcrop of a confused mental state of turning away from the heavens in the pretex of conquering the earth. It is TEMPORAL POWER vs SPIRITUAL AUTHORITY. Yet to be honest more than ever before, fornication and adultery is but a norm, its only just a while from now that homosexualism too will become a norm. One evil begets another evil. And then INCESTOUS PRACTICES, BEASTIALITY, NECRPHILIA E.T.C its a downward trend into the pits. Truth be told, that very day, 'heterosexuals' start acting responsibly, then, shall 'heterosexuals' be able to weed out homosexualism and other sexual perversions but as long as this practice of HYPOCRISY CONTINUES, well what else should be said that has not been said?

First and foremost, HOMOSEXUALITY is not just about sex.
There are many homosexual couples that are not sexually involved.
There are homosexuals who are virgins.
There are many homosexuals who still have sex with the opposite sex and enjoy it even.
When you understand this point and stop focusing everything about homosexuality on sex, then you will be better poised to make a headway.

Secondly, those talking about homosexual behavior in animals doesn't mean they are equating themselves to animals.
That point comes up when people like you try to preach about how homosexuality is alien to nature, i.e. unnatural.

And actually, homosexual behavior is animals is very very common.
Stop hiding behind your phone's keypad and go out and do your research properly.
Don't limit your research to farm animals like cattle, sheep and goats.
Do a proper and all encompassing research.

The reason it might seem uncommon in your farm animals is that the main aim of sex in those animals is procreation.
Those animals don't form relationships or any form of inter-individual bonds among themselves.

Take your research to those animal species that form long-lasting relationships even till death, you will find that they have homosexual individuals and couples among them.

In like manner, sex in humans is not only for procreation.
So go figure.

Finally, I don't expect anything better from you, as the African that you are.
Just keep religion aside for a moment.
What other argument against homosexuality do you have?
Absolutely none.
So your repulsion is based on your religion and for that you call scientists who are trying to discover if there is a genetic basis for homosexuality profane.

It's not as if you have done your own studies and found results that countered their research.

No.

All you do, as the electronic warrior that you are, is to just sit behind your phone and call research findings profane.

Are you OK?

This your attitude is why African nations don't progress.

In the West, when a phenomenon is observed, they put aside all prejudice and try to get to the root of why something exists or happens in a particular way.

But Africans, if it's a good occurrence, we attribute it to God. And if it is a bad one, we attribute it to the devil. And that will be the end of story.

No motivation for critical thinking, research and experimentation to find out why things exist or happen the way they happen.

And then when the West publishes results of their experiments, we won't even task our own scientists to try and see if their results can stand the rigors of the scientific process. We don't task our scientists to see if their results are reproducible. And use the results of our scientists to either accept or refute their claims.

No. We are too big for that.
We just sit.

If their results are appealing to our sensibilities, we applaud it and welcome it with open arms.
But if the results insult our sensibilities, we just reject them and throw them away without further investigation and call their science profane.

And this is why Africa is backward.

More power to your elbow, divine scientist.
At least, the profane scientists are making their studies known to the public.
Where are the results of your studies, o divine scientist?

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Romance › Re: It Is Unnatural To Be Gay, No One Is Born That Way by nobilis: 8:36am On May 26, 2018

WORDWORLD:
This age and its remarkable profane science. Another reason for WHY today's world is in chaos. Perhaps nobody should as well be punished for stealing. For their is such thing as kleptomania.

So you are equating homosexuality with stealing?

Is that how elite and divine your own science is?

Common sense is not common, they say.

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Health › Re: How Nigerian Doctors Worsened Drug Abuse Among Nigerian Youths by nobilis: 12:48pm On May 23, 2018*

ruffhandu:
To make a doctor head an association of Nurses. Is he a nurse. I see you don't deserve my time for you lack understanding and would reduce my reasoning to yours if I don't make proper use of my time. I'll stop signifying you with further response.

LOL.
OK o.
So we're no longer talking about how doctors are causing youths to abuse drugs.
You have now shifted it to leadership of the NMCN because you have no facts to buttress your allegations that it is doctors that cause drug addiction.

I will advise you not to derail the thread.

But before that, I will also advise you to read the National Assembly Act establishing the NMCN. Read it very very well.

In that act, it states that there must always be an Obstetrics and Gynaecology Consultant as a member of the Board of the NMCN.

The act also states that the Secretary General/Registrar of the Council is the Chief Executive of the Council.
Now, let's see
In 2012, the Secretary General of the Council was Mrs A. G. Yusuf.
In 2014/2015, the Secretary General of the Council was Mrs E. C. Azuike.
From 2016 till date, the Secretary General of the Council was Alhaji Faruk Umar.

So who is Dr Abisola Clark and where did you get her name from?

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Health › Re: How Nigerian Doctors Worsened Drug Abuse Among Nigerian Youths by nobilis: 5:40am On May 22, 2018

ruffhandu:
Did you even read the post? Did you see this?

Do you know one can be a professor in Nursing?
Your response reeks of empty superiority complex. You need to comprehend the subject.

Stop confusing yourself and your followers.

You tell yourself you have so much information when you're really empty.

Yes, I know someone can be a professor of nursing.
Professorship is an academic position not a clinical position.

This is simple.
I don't understand why it is so difficult for you to understand.

The highest position for a nurse in the hospital setting is either Chief Nursing Superintendent I or Chief Matron I not Professor.

The highest position for a nurse in the academic field is Professor of Nursing and not Chief Matron.

It doesn't mean that a Professor of Nursing cannot also be a chief matron.

Just like the highest position for a doctor in the hospital is Consultant.
While the highest position for a doctor in academia is Professor.
It doesn't mean a consultant cannot also be a Professor.

Get yourself appropriately informed, you won't agree.
You just keep parading yourself with your ignorance and deceiving people.

Health › Re: How Nigerian Doctors Worsened Drug Abuse Among Nigerian Youths by nobilis: 3:30pm On May 21, 2018

Wealthandjobs:
It's either you are not a health practitioner or you believe and still recycling the lie they told you in Nigerian Medical schools.

Firstly,it is not only a medical doctor that prescribes. Pharmacists can prescribe too.

Secondly,all medications are produced by Pharmacists for the users not for the prescriber unless the prescriber doubles as the user. Pharmacists are the drug experts.

Thirdly,apart from the prescription medications,the Pharmacist doesn't need to request for a prescription form to counsel and dispense other medications. Incidentally,there are more non prescription drugs than prescription drugs.So,the prescription form is only needed for a fraction of medicines NOT ALL MEDICINES.

Fourthly,prescription form is not an order. It is a request made for the dispensing of medications and subject to the professional evaluation of the Pharmacist.In releasing the medications,the Pharmacist believes a professional apart from him/her has evaluated the user as well. The Pharmacist has a professional duty to reject prescriptions once he's not convinced.
Finally,boss of a Pharmacist is another senior Pharmacist. Any other person forming boss is a counterfeit and receiving orders from such individuals is ultra vires

LOL.

First of all, you quoted the wrong post to say this your rubbish.

See how you are just feeding yourself and your followers with deliberate misinformation.

Maybe you need to go and consult your pharmacy professors in school.

In Nigeria, pharmacists are not allowed to prescribe medications.
Only doctors are allowed to prescribe medications.

You can carry your head and hit it on the wall as many times as you please.
That is how it is.

You've not finished doing your own job and duty and you're trying to claim one of the duties of doctors.
Tomorrow you guys will say doctors are suppressing you when it is obvious that you guys are the ones overstepping your boundaries.

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Health › Re: How Nigerian Doctors Worsened Drug Abuse Among Nigerian Youths by nobilis: 3:25pm On May 21, 2018

ruffhandu:
You need some education. Professor at the head of what? A professor of water resources can only be head of water resources, not biological sciences.

You really need to learn to think.

Hahahahahaha.
So much bile is in your veins.
In everything I said, this was the only one you picked up.

Whether it is Water Resources or Fire Resources, in the academic profession, the professor is at the head.

For example, in a university, you don't make a non-professor a Vice Chancellor when there are professors around.

Capisce?

Please try and clear the excess bile in your system before it becomes something else.

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Health › Re: How Nigerian Doctors Worsened Drug Abuse Among Nigerian Youths by nobilis: 12:16pm On May 21, 2018

ruffhandu:
Hmn!
Is the sales rep interviewed by CNN also a medical doctor?
Well, lots of valid points were scored. Lack of necessary collaborations, doctors appointed to head other professions (doesn't make any sense), etc.

Every profession is equally important and should be treated as such.

For me, what is happening with Tramadol and codein is same thing happening with indian hemp and cocain, just that Tramadol is a neater/cheaper option. The same corruption that has brought this country to its knees is what is happening.

They only started scrambling because CNN reported this. So all the media talks on this by Nigerians meant nothing to them? This simply shows the kind of leaders we have - no regard for the citizens. All the ban and un-ban that attended this news is simply to appeal to the international community.

This country is useless at the moment, but I have hope it'll get ok someday.

The bolded part of this your post makes no sense.
The doctor is not heading other professions.
He is heading one profession.

Laboratory Science is not a profession.
Nursing is not a profession, etc.
They are all branches of the same profession: health/medical profession.
And the doctor is at the head of that profession.

Every professional working in a hospital is a health professional and their profession is the health profession. And the head of the health profession is THE DOCTOR

The Engineer and the engineering technician are all in the same profession. Not separate professions.
And the engineer is at the head of that profession.

In the legal profession, the lawyers and judges are at the head.

In the academic profession, professors are at the head.

It goes on and on.

Why are you guys bent on upending things just to massage your egos?

You guys hate doctors but yet all of you answer doctors in your informal circles.
I have not seen any one of you that doesn't answer when called "doctor".
All of you.
Even cleaners.
Yet, all of you hate doctors.

What exactly is wrong with you people?

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Health › Re: How Nigerian Doctors Worsened Drug Abuse Among Nigerian Youths by nobilis: 10:57am On May 21, 2018

asuustrike2009:
Didn't you read the article? it was clearly stated there.

Really?

So a doctor prescribing Codeine or Tramadol for someone in pain who needs it is what will make the person abuse the drug?
So immediately a person puts Tramadol in his mouth he becomes addicted to it?

That's like saying that beer parlors are responsible for alcoholism, drunk driving and accidents resulting from driving under the influence of alcohol.

There are processes by which addiction occurs.
And medically, there are drugs generally known as drugs of addiction or drugs of abuse.
Before a drug of addiction/abuse is prescribed by a doctor, he weighs the risks against the benefits.

For example, a patient had an accident and is in pain but he also has peptic ulcer.
You can't give him ibuprofen or Diclofenac or any other NSAID because they will worsen his ulcer. You have to resort to giving him non-NSAID analgesics such as Tramadol. Sometimes you might have to move up to Codeine and even Morphine. And most non-NSAID analgesics are addictive because of how they interact with their receptors in the body.
But every doctor is aware of this addictive nature of these drugs and is always cautious when prescribing them.

First, If this OP who is masquerading as a Know-it-all pharmacist knows anything about the pharmacdynamics and pharmacokinetics of opioid and non-opioid analgesics, he wouldn't have created this post.

Secondly, he is not blaming his fellow roadside pharmacists and chemists that sell these drugs to these youths without prescription.
He is not blaming them because he knows that they are the real culprits. They are the ones that hand these drugs out to these youths even when they don't come with a doctor's prescription because they believe they know more than the doctor so dispensing drugs with prescription is beneath them.
But he will blame the doctor.

That's what we see in the health sector.

If everything goes well, everyone will collect the glory and may not even remember the role the doctor played.
But once something goes wrong, everybody will blame the doctor.

So that is it.
You don't blame bars and beer parlors for alcoholism.
The solution is for pharmacists to stop dispensing drugs of addiction/abuse without doctor's prescription.
But they will not hear it.
Tomorrow they will still come and blame the doctor.

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Health › Re: Doctors At ISTH Irrua Respond To Mass Casualty Involving UBTH JOHESU by nobilis(op): 9:16pm On May 19, 2018

Ochek:
Facebook Post by a JOHESu leader ISTH...

There was an accident of a group transiting to Auchi from Benin. They were rushed to our A/E at Irrua.
There were no deaths, but minor bruises and cuts. But some have mandibular distortions and other degrees of fractures that may need some days in hospital and scans to be done. But they are all stable.
We swung into action trying to call some of our nurses, and store officers and union members to go help out, we didn't really ask who they were initially, and we didn't want to argue while accident victims suffer. They are all there now helping with the treatment of the injured as it was very clear that the Doctors were helpless at a point. I have called the HOD of general stores to help with treatment items. The HOD of Pharmacy has been on ground helping with pharmaceuticals, the Nurses have arrived as their chairperson mandated and we have the situation under great control.
After putting the anxiety to rest, we decided to really find out who the victims were and found out they are cleaners in UBTH not JOHESU members as being erroneously circulated in social media against the striking unions. A call to SSA chair, UBTH confirmed they are cleaners in UBTH & all outsourced staff and belong to no union in UBTH.
Well, we are happy to relax our strike a bit for the injured and we are happy to prove that treatments are difficult without JOHESU members. We are also happy to prove that we have a largely humanitarian mindset.
That's the summary of what happened.
...........JOHESU ISTH

You guys should keep on spreading lies.

The ARD president of ISTH replied to this message on Facebook. Why didn't you post his reply?

The news is on Channels TV.

Maybe you guys will now say it was doctors that hacked into Channels TV systems and put the news there.

The Nigerian populace are seeing you guys as the propagandists and clowns that you are.

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Health › Re: Doctors At ISTH Irrua Respond To Mass Casualty Involving UBTH JOHESU by nobilis(op): 7:36pm On May 19, 2018*

Amarabae:
Nonsense.
What evidence can they give that they are johesu members?
Useless propaganda by N.M.A

This one is propaganda too, abi?
Or you're now denying your members?

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Health › Re: How Nigerian Doctors Worsened Drug Abuse Among Nigerian Youths by nobilis: 7:13pm On May 19, 2018

I'm still waiting to see how doctors led to the abuse of Tramadol and Codeine by youths.

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Health › Re: Doctors At ISTH Irrua Respond To Mass Casualty Involving UBTH JOHESU by nobilis(op): 4:49pm On May 19, 2018

Cc Lalasticlala

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Health › Doctors At ISTH Irrua Respond To Mass Casualty Involving UBTH JOHESU by nobilis(op): 4:36pm On May 19, 2018

This morning, news reached us at the accident and emergency service department of the irrua specialist teaching hospital, Edo State, of a mass casualty of accident victims along the ever-busy Benin-Auchi road.

Sources gathered that 19 out of the 20 victims were members of the UBTH chapter of JOHESU, the arm of health workers who are currently on strike and have placed most government hospital facilities under lock-and-key. They were said to be on their way to a social function at Auchi.

Thankfully, this is not the story at ISTH, IRRUA EDO STATE, as the hospital management along with the doctors who have been at their duty post for the past one month duration of the strike, have kept the hospital running at optimal levels.

The Presidents of the association of resident doctors, the NMA Edo Central zone, medical and dental consultant association, ISTH chapter, alongside the hospital management have all called out their members to assist at the emergency room.

The Doctors as usual, have all swung into action to cater for the casualties while trying to access the locked theatre for those who would need surgery.

More than half of the casualties have varying degrees of fractures and dislocation. While a few of the dislocations have been reduced under conscious sedation methods, others may need the orthopaedic, plastic surgeons attention in the theatre under control by the anesthetic surgeons.

We pray for the victims to have good outcomes and return back to their respective families.

We thank all doctors for coming out, even those that are not on call-duty. Indeed, this underscores the statement that "BEING A DOCTOR IS NOT JUST A TITLE, IT IS A MENTALITY"

This story is an exclusive from the secretariat of the association of resident doctors, ISTH chapter.

Romance › Re: Bisi Alimi In Bed With Husband, Anthony Davis. Shares Photo by nobilis: 9:03am On Nov 07, 2017

IamaNigerianGuy:
I haven't clicked on the link yet, but if I do it will be to confirm that some people actually are low life forms. I guess some people who clicked feel the same way too.
Stop throwing about the word 'hypocrisy' - you evidently don't know what it means. While you are at it, show some respect and keep your distance from the word 'marriage' as well. It was invented to describe a beautiful and natural union of opposite sexes, not this vomit-inducing spectacle that debases home sapiens.
Finally you and your cohort dont get it: nobody give a flying f...k how a homosexual/lesbian lives his/her life so long as he/she remains deep in the closet where they belong. We begin to have big issues when you crawl out to pollute the public space recruit people to your madness and corrupt our children.
Have a nice day 'gay' defender.

In your bid to sound refined and civil, you revealed the depth of your ignorance.

It will be to confirm that some people actually are low life forms??
Like seriously?
Will that be your justification for clicking on the link?
You didn't know about Bisi Alimi before now?
And you will click on the link to ogle his pics with his husband just because you want to confirm he is a low life form?
Like seriously??

And as to why you even think gayest people are low life forms all because they love differently than you?
All major cultures and civilizations in world history have always revered people we know today as homosexuals - the Egyptian, Assyrian, Babylonian, Persian, Greek and even in precolonial Africa. Most cultures accord them almost equal respect as their religious priests.
It is only Judaism with its daughter religions (Christianity and Islam) that have termed them evil just in the same way they tagged women evil and laid upon the burden of being the ones that brought sin into the world and caused the downfall of man.

You would have known this if you had expended the energy you used in typing the above post in studying more about this issue and dropping your fake moral high-ground. But your hypocrisy will not allow you.

Thank heavens you acknowledge that marriage was invented.
Obviously the person that invented it to mean union between only a man and a woman is a heterosexual person.
And with that in mind, what else would you want him to define marriage as.
Apart from procreation, what exactly is the difference between a homosexual union and a heterosexual one?
And if you argue that procreation is the main reason for marriage, that means you're saying that all those couples who are married but have no offspring are not really married.
Let me not pursue this line of argument further for now.

And onto your next statement, No one belongs to the closet. A homosexual has as much rights as you have. That he feels no love for someone of the opposite sex does not make him less of a human being than you are. You, as the heterosexual person you claim to be, you have no choice on who you develop feelings for. How hypocritical of you to think that you cannot choose which girl you get attracted to yet a homosexual can choose whether or not he will be attracted to a person of the same sex or not.
That is bullshit.
The same way you deserve to flaunt your love life with your girlfriend or wife on social media, that is the same way they deserve to share their love lives too.

Lastly, nobody is rubbing his/her life in your face.
Bisi did not come to your house to give you pictures of himself and his husband.
He didn't send it to your email inbox.
He didn't send the pictures to your Facebook messenger, whatsapp messenger, bbm, snapchat, Instagram and so on.
He didn't post it on any of your social media walls.
He posted it on HIS instagram page not yours.
He is living his life and you're the one who is rubbing his life on your face.

No child gets corrupted by seeing two men or two women kissing.
It is you adults with your prejudices who corrupt this children with your words and attitude.
Just like no child is born a racist. No child is born hating another human being for what he does.
A male child who is heterosexual will not stop being attracted to women if he sees two men kissing.
This has been proven time and time again.

But your prejudices won't let your common sense gain the upper hand in your life.
I pity you sha.

You're here spewing bile on a man who doesn't even know whether you exist or not.
Please get a life.

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Romance › Re: Bisi Alimi In Bed With Husband, Anthony Davis. Shares Photo by nobilis: 7:05pm On Nov 06, 2017

LMAO

Nigerians and hypocrisy are like 5 and 6.

You guys definitely saw the caption on the link and even when you say you hate the man and how he lives his life, you guys still clicked on the link to see their pictures together and still clicked on the next link to see more pictures of them together yet you come here and be forming disgusted.

I wonder if it is the God you people serve that encourages you people to be this hypocritical and have no joy in your lives.

He is happy and enjoying himself and his marriage and you guys are here wallowing in hypocrisy and name-calling.

Tueh !!!

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Politics › Re: How Army Free Vaccination Caused Pandemonium In Igboland by nobilis: 3:54pm On Oct 13, 2017

It is sad how foolish people are to call Igbos illiterates and rumor-mongers without even looking at prevailing circumstances. But what do you expect in a country where people are only interested in looking for ways of denigrating people from tribes other than theirs.
It is really sad.

First and foremost, nobody is doubting that the military has enough doctors. But what exactly is the military vaccinating the children for? Is it monkey pox? If it is monkey pox, and the military found the vaccine for it, why are they the only institution with access to it? Shouldn't the NMA have been made aware of their procurement of this so called vaccine. When Ebola was in this country, NMA was called to rise up to the challenge which is the right thing to do. When the scourge of polio was ravaging some parts of the North, NMA stepped up to the challenge. In any disease outbreak, NMA and other health associations and unions have always been at the forefront of disease-combating efforts. What exactly is the military doing?

Nobody knows the exact origin of this monkey pox disease. Nobody has any idea how it came about. And suddenly the military that has been murdering people in the SE in the name of keeping the peace brings out vaccines that the Minister or Commissioners of Health in the affected states know nothing about and you want the populace to accept it with open arms?

Secondly, why is this vaccination part of their killing operation?
Inspite of their reassurances that the Python Dance was a peaceful operation, they ended up killing several unarmed civilians.
And then after all those killings, they bring vaccines to vaccinate the children and siblings of those they murdered.
And you expect that the populace should open their arms peacefully to them because they have come with vaccines?

Thirdly, has any of you bigots heard of the terms, "due process" and "informed consent"?
You want to vaccinate students. You didn't discuss this with and give prior notice of this to the schools involved.
You don't discuss this with the parents of these students all of whom are definitely minors and get the needed consent from their parents.
You just show up at the school premises with your vaccines.
And given your history of human rights abuses and homicidal tendencies, you want to be accepted.

And you guys are here calling the Easterners daft ?

So many sick people in this Nairaland.
It's a pity.

And this is why we don't progress in this country.
The Federal Government will do some evil and atrocious things and overturn due process in dealing with people from a section of the country and instead of coming out as one to condemn evil, other sections of the country will either keep quiet or hail the FG in their atrocities just because they were not affected.

But what do I know?
We are all wise in our stupidity and divisiveness. So let's all continue.

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