sweerychick:
... Not that im defending these Chinese people, but I've been to China and I know their tradition, Chinese people are extremely discreet, they don't like sharing anything with you. That's why they live in clusters, Chinatown. You hardly see Chinese people intermingle with commoners. And they do it to everyone including Europeans not just blacks alone. I think it's an Asian thing.
I believe why the restricted Nigerians there is fear of their safety, because from the report it started January this year and it was this January that dollars started skyrocketing and food stuffs increased astronomically. So they feared that Nigerians might want to loot their shops or do something sinister to them..

Listen to this slave mentality.. I don't care if it an X thing. When in Rome...

Yes Ooo... The Buhari Era don finish...

SoNature:


That's wrong. If you must move those departments, take them to the ND states.

Instead of making efforts to create opportunities in other states across Nigeria so they can decongest an overpopulated Lagos, these greedy Lagos politicians want to grab everything.

That's why Buhari and Tinubu can never be the man that Jonathan and Obasanjo were. While the former were regional champions foisted on the country, the latter were detribalised presidents.

Go cry..

ivolt:

I know for a fact that the bold is wrong given Niger's pre-coup economy growth but I will give you the benefit of the doubt.
Provide a reliable source for your claim.


My explanation is very much relevant to puncture the illogical pro-coup propaganda.
This is not a matter of laggards or toppers.
It is simple maths.
South Korea has moved from bottom to top and not from bottom to bottom.
South Korea was actually doing something different post civil war.
Niger is doing absolutely nothing different than extraction and selling.


This is irrelevant, economics does not work based on hope, miracles or prayers.
The only thing close to a miracle is new discovery of a massive source of natural resources.
I don't recall any of these coup countries making such discoveries.
In national economics, if you produce, you wallow in poverty, it is that simple.


I can now see that you are discussing completely outside of your knowledge.
What vast economic gains? Increased employment? Increased productivity, net positive BOP, massive budget increase?
What exactly? Provide the before and after coup numbers and you will be sorely disappointed.

Oh you think growth rate is the magic word.
Well, go and check all the numbers that matters e.g GDP per capita if you know what they mean.
Nigeria is at least 3 times richer than any of your supposed perfect countries and has even improved over them post-coup.
Do you think economics is like protesting in the street riding on current political wave?



No, you are extremely ignorant on economic issues.
I am surprised an educated person could knowingly weave fiction into economics.
You just hear "growth rate" and you went gaga without understanding what it means.
None of the coup countries are any significantly better economically than they were before coup.

I have told you what it takes to actually improve the economy of a nation.
Being rhetorically "free" whatever that means is not part of it.
Increase production/services or discover natural resources. Outside of that, no magic involved.

ALL OF THE ABOVE AND YOU SAID NOTHING..

TINUBUS URCHINS WILL SAY THE SKY IS GREEN IF HE SAID SO..

Re South Korea thanks for parroting what I already said..

Re Niger, yes they are doing something different. They are now selling Uranium at market rates as opposed to the price the French set for them, a 200% difference in some cases. Hence the uptick in growth rates..

Also you don't need to do anything particularly different to increase growth rates in some cases. Look at Saudi it has been flogging oil for years and has become very rich as a result. Ditto Qatar which got rich selling LNG.. Botswana has a higher GDP per capita than Nigeria again selling primary goods..

Re GDP per capita, you have poor reading skills. I mentioned gdp per capita figures when comparing S Korea vs Nigeria/Ghana at independence lol..

Try again....

THERE ONCE WAS A COUNTRY

Paraman:
I don't understand you

Of you don't understand, that is why you defend the agbero Tinubu.. No smart man will defend his silly moves..

ivolt:

Your inference is wrong.
Fastest growing means nothing when you move from bottom to bottom.
If person A's salary is increased from 100 to 130, that's a 30% increase.
But if person B's salary is increased from 10 to 30, that's a 300% increase.
It doesn't mean person B is better off than person A.

Indeed they are starting from a low base, but the question is why did this change occur? The catalyst was extricating the last vestiges of French rule, something you clearly don't wish to acknowledge.

Also your pointless explanation makes little sense, because yesterday's laggards can become tomorrow's champions. E.G. South Korea had a much lower GDP per capita compared to Ghana and Nigeria at independence. Where is South Korea today, it is in effect a developed nation, Nigeria and Ghana? we both know where they are..

Likewise Today's champion can be tomorrow's loser.Like Argentina which had a larger economy than France at the beginning of the 20th century and now is the byword for economic failure/decline.

Tinubu could have ridden the crest of wave, joining arms with neighbouring countries that were freeing themselves and experiencing vast economic gains as a result.

Instead the Agbero did what an Agbero does and slavishly followed marching orders given to him by the west..

Now I have educated you go and rethink the nonsense you just posted..

Paraman:
please provide evidence for the bolded

I give you evidence of why Tinubu isn't that bright, instead of acknowledging it, you go quiet..

Chai my people smdh

Paraman:
please provide evidence for the bolded

https://www.semafor.com/article/01/10/2024/world-banks-says-africa-leads-fast-growth-economies-in-2024

Please see here, Niger will record the fastest growth in Africa this year 2024 at 12.8% (World Bank)

We all know what led to this change, as historically it has always been an economic laggard on the African continent.

Tinubu sadly chose to be on the wrong side of history..

Paraman:
What are you benefitting from Niger, Burkina Faso and Mali been part of ECOWAS? A lot of you things just love wailing over nothing.

All three nations are in the process of throwing off the last vestiges of French rule. Niger for example has rocketed to being one of the fasting growing economies in the world this year.

This change in economic activity spills over into neighbouring nations via trade. Economic blocs like Ecowas were founded to spread these benefits.

Instead due to Tinubu slavishly following the foreign policy agenda of the French, attempting to prop up their pro French puppets he alienated these newly freed nations.

It was a silly mistake and shows he isn't very clever politically. Also history will not look kindly on his actions..

slivertongue:
nepotism abi nationalism

When Buhari was favoring his boys, you weren't complaining abi?

It's our turn

Songhai empire reborn

Well Tinubu loves Lagos, so at least it will receive proper funding unlike under the Daura Vegetable

We all knew the BAT had already paid for this result..

Botragelad:

You are ignorant!
The situations in Israel and South Africa are not identical. Israel is a complex and diverse society, with multiple ethnic and religious groups living together. South Africa, under apartheid, was a very different society, with a strict system of racial segregation in place.

One key difference between Israel and South Africa is the concept of citizenship. All citizens of Israel, regardless of race or religion, have equal rights under the law. In South Africa, non-white citizens were not considered equal, and were denied basic rights and freedoms. Right or wrong?
Israel has an elected government, while South Africa was ruled by a white minority that denied the majority of its citizens the right to vote. These are just a few of the differences between the two societies, which make the comparison of apartheid and Israel inaccurate. Again, do you understand what apartheid mean!

Bros well said, but most Nigerians are sheep and just repeat nonsense they have seen elsewhere.

Why any thinking Nigerian would have a position on either party is beyond me. Neither group care very much about what happens in Africa let alone Nigeria.

Mtchewww...

Rossikk:


Don’t mind these Nigerian slaves.

Both Israelis and Arabs are RACIST against Africans, and most certainly do not consider Africans their ‘brethren’, to use slave pastor attaché Adeboye’s ludicrous term.

Adeboye should get his son to try marrying an Israeli ‘Jew’ and see how quickly they will show him they do NOT regard him as their ‘brethren’.

Stupid slave pastor.

Exactly bros...

Bliss52:




We prefer Heroes beer

Not

LightRail


.

Hate will kill you..

I don't stand with either party and neither should any Nigerian.

Wetin concern me..? Do you see Israelis or Palestinians marching or even commenting when there are internal issues in Nigeria that have turned violent?

Mumus..

Dino is a thief. I have nothing more to say..

Jagabanarmy:

Buhari started it so make them no complain ooooo

Exactly..

tesppidd:
Ngbatti government.

10 out of 16 Yorubas.

When Buhari did the same, were you talking this much Mtchew..

Olaoluwa122:
Omo...but the daughter fine sha

So a pot belly at such a young age is fine? Oga I beg to disagree

VaselineCrew:
When push comes to shove and another world war breaks, you monkeys will be wiped of the face of the earth with just one lockhead missle

Baboons and apes that celebrate corruption

No space travel for monkey, no satellites

Not even common water for your people from the tap

You can’t even close gutter so that when tourist go for a stroll with their kfc they don’t feel like throwing up seeing kpotopoto and poo inside open gutter.


Monkeys and savages

Have oil but can’t refine it savages

Gaddamit, you negroes are so fukin lame compared to the white breed

I agree with you on Nigeria's failing, but it isn't that yts of anyone else is superior to blacks. It is that Nigeria till today has never had a leader with vision and a strong moral compass..

Tinubu is a thief we all know that.. Even Obi wasn't clean either, but the better of two evils..

Nigeria is a failure because meritocracy isn't the order of the day..

meum:

If you truly voted for him be proud of your choice the same way others are of their choices. Forget who the elites from your candidates tribe supported.

It’s like you never understand Nigeria. Elites gravitate towards where their interests will be protected. Dem no send. If the person they supported to eventually get there(elected or selected) refuses to patronize them they’ll start singing & play the victim card. That is 9ja😂 Some have started dropping singles 🎤 😂

That is also why Nigeria will never work for the common person and will probably remain a failing nation well into the future.

You laugh as Inflation rises ever higher, growth remains anemic, the value of the Naira collapses and an old man with no political policies whose only interest is to line his own pockets leads you...

Nigerian deference to wealth and power no matter what lurks in the heart of the man is something to behold.

A failed nation of a morally bankrupt people..

*shaking my head from my confortable home in the west*

Enjoy your pain

opamoses1:

You are absolutely correct.

Absolute nonsense...

Pierocash:
That is what the Niger Junta ought to have done to ease pressure from them. Send him on exile , constitute committee to investigate him,, charge him for corruption, and sentence him in absentia, case closed. All this " return Bazoum" that Ecowas and the west have been singing wouldn't have been there

Or they could have simply shot Bazoum and closed the matter permanently...

He is wasting his time Tinubu has already paid everyone off. This Naija after all..

Reflect7:


Let's not pretend or be delusional on this GADEMN FORUM.

This terminal was built in the centre of OSHODI.

Has any of you here been to OSHODI?

Especially before they built that terminal?

Look, I GREW UP PASSING THROUGH OSHODI DAILY ON THE WAY TO SCHOOL.

Oshodi was a hellhole of fast commerce, market women selling everywhere.

Oshodi is the first place I've seen where market women would place their stalls in the middle of the road, with cars passing. When the Molue reaches the point they are, the driver would jump out screaming at the women to remove their stalls from the road.

You would think the women would be remorseful and be saying sorry for blocking the road. For where? They will be abusing the driver back as he's driving off. Raining curses on him! That's Oshodi for you!

Plus chronic overcrowding, rushing for Molue, desperation, illiteracy, semi-literacy, touts, thugs, Alayes, pickpockets, drug dealers, poverty, and open defecation.

Oshodi was where ARMED ROBBERS used to go and hide after committing atrocities in more civilized parts of Lagos.

A sprinkling of BROTHELS in the area gladly served as hideouts.

I personally frequented some of those brothels in my secondary school days in the 80s.

I often used my pocket money to go and nyash ashewo.

Short time, 10 Naira.

Oshodi was the quintessential Lagos hellhole.

All those people were not moved out of OSHODI after they commissioned the terminal.

They are still there.

So how the hell do you expect the terminal to look?

The minute I heard they were building that terminal at OSHODI, I knew it would get to this.

I'm even surprised they haven't smashed in all those ajebota glass walls and trimmings in the terminal.

The place even still looks clean somehow, considering the fact that it is in Oshodi.

Truth is it will be a hell of a task keeping that terminal looking like somewhere in Paris or Brussels or London, with the kind of characters that populate OSHODI.

If that facility was located somewhere in Ikeja or Surulere or Island or Lekki, the place will be looking very clean and sharp even with minimal maintenance.

Simply because of the calibre of people in those areas.

The long-term solution for this sort of thing is just to improve the living standards of the masses, plus education.

Snob.. The terminal would be fine regardless of the so called caliber of people were it maintained..

Kingosytex:
We just dey destroy and demolish things

Why not bring the culprits to book and convert the refinery to government use?
Since they refine fuel of nice and high quality octane value, why not convert it to government property?
Even if the standards fall short, why can't it be upgraded?

Or better yet give each of them one of the three non functioning govt refineries with some cash to get it working. I am sure they would succeed

Congrats Thief

Karnice600:


I can fetch you any video of Sanni Abacha talking about his goodwill and plans for Nigeria, just like the video of Idi Amin you posted but what can that prove? It’s foolish to summarize Idi Amin’s performances by what he claimed he stood for. We simply look at his people during his reign, their inter relations, his administration policies etc.
Didn’t Buhari claim that he successfully curbed high rate of unemployment in Nigeria?
So a simple minded person will just see a clip of that speech and begin to use that as a proof that Buhari gave the best to Nigerians. That’s what you did.
You have the internet at your disposal to educate yourself but you confuse yourself with it. Copy, paste and jumble words to come off like you know what you’re doing.
Abacha and Idi Amin were all military dictators who got to power by coup. It’s crazy trying to compare them. But if we have to, then Abacha been dey learn work for wey Idi Amin dey unto matters of brutality and inhumanity.
One minute you’re talking about Ben Gurion, Golda Meir, unrelated nouns. No bearing. Just mumbo jumbo.
Don’t force yourself into a space you’ll look stupid in. That’s what you’re doing.

More strawman arguments and ad hominems..

You raised Entebbe, I explained why Ugandans reacted the way they did to Israelis. Giving you historical context all the way back to Gurion

Especially Idi Amin who explained his raison d'etre clearly.

I asked you for equivalent examples for Abacha, clearly you don't have any convincing examples..

Oya just say on this specific point you are wrong or weren't as well versed in the subject matter as you thought mtchewww..

All this, because you can't concede and say I got it WRONG..

My people stronghead till the end.. It is a good trait in the main as it is what sets us apart from others. But at times like this, it is a glaring character flaw.

I am done here, have a good day..

Racoon:
This matter is really escalating now. It means we are back to the era of military coupists government. The tyrannical mindsets of African leaders is not helping the continent.

While I don't like military juntas, have you heard what these leaders are actually saying?

I recall Burkina Fasos leader asking why Africa was the poorest continent when we have the most resources? He said plainly this we don't understand and must change..

Right or wrong, they are overthrowing western puppets masquerading as leaders..

The BAT has shown his true colours in taking up sanctions against them.

These men could be the next Josef Sankara or perhaps Mobutu. But who knows, time will tell?

Karnice600:


Copied and pasted, yet still analyzing nonsense.



Find me any source where Abacha speaks of the interests of the Nigerian people or economy




Idi Amin so much had the interest of his people at heart? You're sick.
Someone who murdered over 8,000 Ugandans in his first year of rule. By the end of his regime he had already killed over 200k Ugandans in 8 years of rule. He was later referred to as the Butcher of Uganda.., and you describe such as having the interest of his people at heart.
Its either you're a jihadist, a sadist or you have a very shallow understanding of these events against the backdrop of global politics as the time.
Copy and paste, yet a waste. Better go Entertainment section.

As I said, you dont have a source for Abacha

I came back with the actual video and source. Now you are ignoring it.

Look just say you got it wrong, instead of moving the goal posts and chatting more rubbish..

This is what I mean about us Nigerians, can't admit when we get something wrong.

It's annoying.. I respond in seconds you take all day googling, looking up some useless counter argument..

I swear Nigerians and talk talk...

Chai.. You and Mr Japa aren't worth my time..

Jus Sharap..