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Religion / TB Joshua: A Blessing or A Curse You Decide Today by ocnovakmichael(m): 6:27am On Jan 26
Surely offences will come. But curse is upon the man through whom offences come.
Friend, I'd advise you take heed to the last statement, lest a far greater thing befall you.

You see, Saul his mistakes notwithstanding, David did not deem it fit to stretch his hands on him.
1 Samuel 24:6-7
[6]And he said unto his men, The LORD forbid that I should do this thing unto my master, the LORD'S anointed, to stretch forth mine hand against him, seeing he is the anointed of the LORD.
[7]So David stayed his servants with these words, and suffered them not to rise against Saul. But Saul rose up out of the cave, and went on his way.


David was a man who feared God, and wouldn't touch God's anointed because he knew the consequences. For God had already warned, touch not my anointed and do my prophets no harm!
The Lord Jesus, emphasizing on this line, put it succinctly when he says:
Matthew 18:6-7
[6]But whoso shall offend one of these little ones which believe in me, it were better for him that a millstone were hanged about his neck, and that he were drowned in the depth of the sea.
[7]Woe unto the world because of offences! for it must needs be that offences come; but woe to that man by whom the offence cometh!

You see, men and oracles of God may faulter, yet it is not in our place to slander them. Rather, it is a blessing to pray for them to remain under grace.
Ephesians 6:18-19
[18]Praying always with all prayer and supplication in the Spirit, and watching thereunto with all perseverance and supplication for all saints;
[19]And for me, that utterance may be given unto me, that I may open my mouth boldly, to make known the mystery of the gospel,


Notice Paul crave the prayers of the saints: that utterance may be given him to preach the gospel.

Friend, instead of incurring cause unto ourselves by our slanderous words which we have spoken against TB Joshua and other oracles of God, let us pray for them to speak the gospel with boldness.

Here what the Spirit says:
Philippians 1:15-18
[15]Some indeed preach Christ even of envy and strife; and some also of good will:
[16]The one preach Christ of contention, not sincerely, supposing to add affliction to my bonds:
[17]But the other of love, knowing that I am set for the defence of the gospel.
[18]What then? notwithstanding, every way, whether in pretence, or in truth, Christ is preached; and I therein do rejoice, yea, and will rejoice.


Paul inspired by the Spirit says, the one preach Christ of contention, not sincerely, but the other of love, and of truth. What then? notwithstanding, in every way, whether in pretence, or in truth, Christ is preached; and I therein do rejoice, yea...!
TB Joshua and other oracles of God that are currently being mocked preached Christ and led myriads through the right path with God. And like Paul, I therein rejoice. Yea! I will rejoice! For many are brought into the kingdom through them, their faults notwithstanding.

In the final analysis, you should be a blessing not a curse! Be a light not darkness.

Jesus is Lord!

Do not hoard Knowledge, propagate it!
Religion / Re: TB Joshua: The Church And The Times by ocnovakmichael(m): 6:21am On Jan 26
Surely offences will come. But curse is upon the man through whom offences come.
Friend, I'd advise you take heed to the last statement, lest a far greater thing befall you.

You see, Saul his mistakes notwithstanding, David did not deem it fit to stretch his hands on him.
1 Samuel 24:6-7
[6]And he said unto his men, The LORD forbid that I should do this thing unto my master, the LORD'S anointed, to stretch forth mine hand against him, seeing he is the anointed of the LORD.
[7]So David stayed his servants with these words, and suffered them not to rise against Saul. But Saul rose up out of the cave, and went on his way.


David was a man who feared God, and wouldn't touch God's anointed because he knew the consequences.

The Lord Jesus put it succinctly when he says:
Matthew 18:6-7
[6]But whoso shall offend one of these little ones which believe in me, it were better for him that a millstone were hanged about his neck, and that he were drowned in the depth of the sea.
[7]Woe unto the world because of offences! for it must needs be that offences come; but woe to that man by whom the offence cometh!


Men and oracles of God may faulter, yet it is not in our place to slander them. Rather, it is not out of place to pray for them.
Ephesians 6:18-19
[18]Praying always with all prayer and supplication in the Spirit, and watching thereunto with all perseverance and supplication for all saints;
[19]And for me, that utterance may be given unto me, that I may open my mouth boldly, to make known the mystery of the gospel,


Notice Paul crave the prayers of the saints: that utterance may be given him to preach the gospel.

Friend, instead of incurring cause unto ourselves by our slanderous words which we have spoken against TB Joshua, an oracles of God, let us pray for them to speak the gospel with boldness.
Here what the Spirit says:
Philippians 1:15-18
[15]Some indeed preach Christ even of envy and strife; and some also of good will:
[16]The one preach Christ of contention, not sincerely, supposing to add affliction to my bonds:
[17]But the other of love, knowing that I am set for the defence of the gospel.
[18]What then? notwithstanding, every way, whether in pretence, or in truth, Christ is preached; and I therein do rejoice, yea, and will rejoice.



Jesus is Lord!
Religion / Re: TB Joshua: The Church And The Times by ocnovakmichael(m): 10:19pm On Jan 25
The law of contact and transmission imply the idea that every contact leaves a trace.
Indeed, the impact of TB Joshua amongst Nigerians has certainly left a trace: both the good and the bad.
I'm the end, the prerogative in on us to adjudicate correctly whether his impact for good outweighs his negative proclivities.

In view of this, I ask God to keep his sheep that they be not scattered.

Jesus is Lord!
Religion / Re: TB Joshua: The Church And The Times by ocnovakmichael(m): 10:18pm On Jan 24
1TrippleCee:




Go and learn to test the spirits first. I am not your spiritual mate. You should learn to be docile and teachable enough so you can learn from your spiritual senoirs not argue with/against them


If you have any clip where TB Joshua attributed his miracles to The HolySpirit, rather than his greatness, please share with me. Be careful about what you share cause i started watching TB Joshua and placed him under my radar since 1991 before i drew my conclusions by 2021

Sir,
Let me start by asking you these questions: beside what you see on TV and on Newspaper, have you ever been to the SCOAN and hear TB Joshua preach? Have you ever heard him and read about him crediting his healing virtue to himself?
If you have no answers to those questions, then hear what the Bible teaches:
Proverbs 18:13
[13]He that answereth a matter before he heareth it, it is folly and shame unto him.


Proverbs 10:18
[18]He that hideth hatred with lying lips, and he that uttereth a slander, is a fool.


Now brother don't be a fool!
Think about it!!
Religion / Re: TB Joshua: The Church And The Times by ocnovakmichael(m): 1:41pm On Jan 24
1TrippleCee:




TB Joshua is a Satanist and a Shaman. Go and google up and read about Shamanistic practice, ritual and upgrade your spiritual knowledge bank. We do not need diviners, sorcerers, warlocks in our Father's kingdom

Did you know when Jesus walked the earth, the people of that day said the exact same thing you just deposited. They said Jesus was casting out demons by the finger of the devil.

Matthew 12:27-28
[27]And if I by Beelzebub cast out devils, by whom do your children cast them out? therefore they shall be your judges.
[28]But if I cast out devils by the Spirit of God, then the kingdom of God is come unto you.

So I'm not surprise at all at your statement.
Religion / Re: TB Joshua: The Church And The Times by ocnovakmichael(m): 6:12am On Jan 23
budaatum:


And alive.
Kobojunkie,

It is mighty easy to see the evil in man than to see the good in the man. Albert Einstein gave a practical demonstration of this. At one time Einstein was teaching a class and he wrote on the blackboard
9*5 = 45
9*6 = 54
9*7= 63
9*8 = 72
9*9 = 81
9*10 = 90
9* 11 = 99
9*12 = 108
9*13 = 115
When Einstein was done, he turned and found the whole class laughing in rapid convulsion. He asked the students what's funny? One of them stood up and said, " Prof Einstein, you gave the world a mathematical equation that led to the production of Atomic Bomb, yet you could not calculate simple 9*13."
Einstein looked at the whole class and that cocky student and said, "Of all the mathematical equations I have proposed none have you celebrated with laughter and glee, but one little mistake on a blackboard you criticize me."

This is how the world's system operate. You can't escape a host of eyes waiting to pounce on you at the very least mistake, yet ignoring the days of your glory.
In other words, I'm not in any way advocating we exonerate TB Joshua because of his good works. Yet, while we are talking about his evil nature we should also, with the same stream of air in our vocal cord, talk about his good nature. Is this too hard to ask?

I Know you don't imply to mock God.

One of Roman's finest emperors Marcus Aurelius once had a servant who at certain time whisper into his ear, "You're just a man. You're just a man."

Now I understand your not being in agreement with TB Joshua but be careful lest your notion imply mocking God : you are only a man.


Jesus is Lord!
Religion / Re: TB Joshua: The Church And The Times by ocnovakmichael(m): 12:35am On Jan 23
Love never fails....
Religion / Re: TB Joshua: The Church And The Times by ocnovakmichael(m): 11:00pm On Jan 22
Kobojunkie:
The problem with folks such as yourself is you try to drag God down to your level in an attempt to justify what is a mere personal choice on your part.

Nothing wrong with choosing to see good in men. Heck, you are free to worship them as you please. You are free to choose to live that way if you wish. The problem arises however the movement you drag God's mention down into what is you, making a ridicule of him as a result. lipsrsealed

2. I don't give a flying fk in whom you choose to worship among men. Just stop dragging God's mention into it thereby making a liar of him for your ego's sake. Simple! undecided

Dear Kobojunkie,

You see, there is more to life than meets the eye. There is an African proverb which says, "It takes a village to raise a child." If TB Joshua is guilty of every wrong leveled against him, then he must have had accomplices. Everyone of those witnesses on BBC should be prosecuted as well because they were accessories to crimes perpetrated in convert activism.
I'm not here to adjudicate who's right or wrong, TB Joshua or BBC. All I'm saying is this, when we talk about the wrong deeds of a man, we should talk about his good deeds as well to balance up the conjecture. There is a proverb which both underlies and buttress my last statement, and that is, "One man's meat is another man's poison."
Remember, the same people who called Jesus Rabbi (a teacher) are those same people who said crucify him (a thief).

So while the likes of you see the evil in TB Joshua, men like us look past his faults and frailties and see the light behind the cave.
In the long run, I choose to see the good in you, Kobojunkie, and the good in TB Joshua. Because only love sees beyond faults: it sees success.
1 Corinthians 13:8
[8] Love never faileth...



Jesus is Lord!
Religion / Re: TB Joshua: The Church And The Times by ocnovakmichael(m): 9:10pm On Jan 22
Kobojunkie:
See this one! Paul never advised you to see good in man lest you make a liar of him again. The God you've been desperately trying to roll into this matter warned that cursed is any man who puts his trust in man and makes flesh and blood his source of strength. So, what is this good you pretend to see in ordinary men that you are so desperate to drag even the God of Israel in the mud for? undecided

Of course, I understand if people like Scovel Shinn are gods to you. The good you claim to see in men would make so much sense then. undecided

Kobojunkie,

The way I chose to see the good in you, that is how I opt to see the good in TB Joshua, his faults notwithstanding.
There is a saying that the evil in man is equal to the opportunity to use it. Yet, this saying is countered by the notion that the good in man will ultimately dispel the evil hands of perdition.

Kobojunkie, the fault is not in our stars but in ourselves that we are underling. Put somewhat differently, man is a product of fate. Yet, man could predict his own fate.

I see good in TB Joshua and I see good in you Kobojunkie. Now I ask you for the second time am I wrong to see the good in both of you, your faults notwithstanding? Am I wrong in opting not to see the faults in both you?

1 Corinthians 13:5
[5] [Love] Doth not behave itself unseemly, seeketh not her own, is not easily provoked, thinketh no evil;


Jesus is Lord!
Religion / Re: TB Joshua: The Church And The Times by ocnovakmichael(m): 5:41pm On Jan 22
Kobojunkie:
What meaningless gibberish is this? undecided

Stop quoting Paul's opinions which you have no clear understanding of! That man, Paul, has probably been rolling in his grave ever since the religion of Christianity laid hands on his discarded letters and began using his words to perpetrate what amounts to foolishness, dragging the God of Israel in the mud as a result. undecided

Kobojunkie,

I understand as well as agree with you wholeheartedly.
You see, TB Joshua, his faults not withstanding, did a great good to myriad of Nigerians. I chose to see the good side of him because love sees the very best in others.
1 Corinthians 13:7-8
[7] [Love] Beareth all things, believeth all things, hopeth all things, endureth all things.
[8]Love never faileth...


You may see the bad side of him, which is okay, yet I opt to see the good in him. Florence Scovel Shinn amply put it best, "No one is a failure if one person sees one as successful."

So I ask you, kobojunkie, this question: am I wrong to see the good in TB Joshua?
Religion / Re: TB Joshua: The Church And The Times by ocnovakmichael(m): 4:52pm On Jan 22
Kobojunkie:
The statement in bold is utter bullsheet and comes from one who claims to be a graduate revealing your disconnect from objectivity in this case. All the documentary did was reveal that there are out there those who believe themselves victims of the man and would like to see him held accountable for the atrocities he supposedly committed against them. That's it! BBC only provided to them a platform to air their grievances and nothing else. undecided

2. Nonsense! This is a case for the Criminal Justice System, not for you to judge. And Stop dragging the mentions of God, be it the gods of this man or any others, into the mud. The Law is there for all to submit to.. undecided

Kobojunkie,

All your statements are true; and I couldn't agree with you more. All I said in my comment was: remove the truths from the lies and hold fast to that which is good.
The Bible teaches we must prove all things including Spirits and ministries, then hold fast to that which is good.
1 Thessalonians 5:21-28 KJV
Prove all things; hold fast that which is good...


Put slightly differently, prove TB Joshua, the documentary not withstanding, hold fast to that which is good.


Jesus is Lord!
Religion / Re: TB Joshua: The Church And The Times by ocnovakmichael(m): 4:28pm On Jan 22
Kobojunkie,

I'm not an ignorant man you know. I had my BSc in Statistics from IMSU and a Master's degree in Applied Statistics in UI.

BBC televised a documentary that is in path true. You see a documentary entails a record presented objectively and succinctly without the insertion of fictional allusion.

When a objectively analyse what BBC presented as a conjecture for the public to consume and ruminate, we could find evidence of concocted fictional allusions with no corresponding basis.
I'd encourage you to rewatch that documentary with a keen sense of objectively dissecting truth from fiction, truth from lies. And the remainder is left to God.


Jesus is Lord!
Religion / Re: TB Joshua: The Church And The Times by ocnovakmichael(m): 9:23pm On Jan 21
Kobojunkie,

Like I said, I couldn't agree with you more. But God is able to make a man, mocked by world, stand!
Romans 14:4
Who art thou that judgest another man's servant? to his own master he standeth or falleth. Yea, he shall be holden up: for God is able to make him stand.


Listen and learn! Close your ears to this and be confounded!


Jesus is Lord!
Religion / Re: TB Joshua: The Church And The Times by ocnovakmichael(m): 8:12pm On Jan 21
Kobojunkie:
Stop hiding your wickedness behind verses. undecided

Jesus Christ stood in front of the criminal justice system of His time and was found innocent by it. All those who belong to Jesus Christ should live expecting the same treatment that He got. So I see no reason why anyone --- even those who pretend to believe in Jesus Christ ---- would balk against this man Temitope Balogun Joshua getting investigated and tried unless they are aware he has something to hide. undecided


I couldn't agree more wholeheartedly. In the long run, an egg will walk.
1 Corinthians 10:12
[12]Wherefore let him that thinketh he standeth take heed lest he fall.
Religion / Re: TB Joshua: The Church And The Times by ocnovakmichael(m): 6:25pm On Jan 21
Kobojunkie,

This is my submission:
Ecclesiastes 12:13-14
[13]Let us hear the conclusion of the whole matter: Fear God, and keep his commandments: for this is the whole duty of man.
[14]For God shall bring every work into judgment, with every secret thing, whether it be good, or whether it be evil.
Religion / Re: TB Joshua: The Church And The Times by ocnovakmichael(m): 5:58pm On Jan 21
Kobojunkie,

Is there a precedence you could give of a dead man who stood trial on Nigeria legal system?
How many were convicted of their crimes and a post hummus sentence given?

My take here is this, we cannot dismiss outrightly the ulterior motive behind BBC's documentary. Also, we cannot rule out completely there are no iota of truth in BBC's documentary.
Now if the SCOAN were to be closed down and all her congregation asked to stop attending service in worship to God. What would be the state of the sheep bereft of a shepherd?

The leaders and members of the SCOAN needs our prayers to overcome this phase.
And so I pray that God will strengthen them and direct them at this time in JESUS' name, Amen.

Jesus is Lord
Religion / Re: TB Joshua: The Church And The Times by ocnovakmichael(m): 5:27pm On Jan 21
Kobojunkie,

I don't know much about the dealings of the judicial system, perhaps you could educate me. Does a dead man stand trials? If he does. Then, the constitution should be evoked on the man and what he stands for.
However, how do we validate the witnesses of the plaintiffs and how could the accused defend himself from the great beyond?


Jesus is Lord!
Religion / Re: TB Joshua: The Church And The Times by ocnovakmichael(m): 2:59pm On Jan 21
Kobojunkie:
You folks are just plain wicked. If it had been your own daughter that accused this man of rape, would you have come here to type up this tripe calling for prayers? undecided

Since you lot stoop so low as to insert God into all of this, then let this case be handled according to the example of the God you claim. After Jesus Christ was accused by His detractors, He was interrogated and tried in the courts, and found innocent by the Law of the time - Pilate. In the same manner, let this man, Temitope Balogun Joshua who is accused of murder, rape and torture be thoroughly investigated and tried by the courts. That should be what every individual who even claims by mouth to believe in Jesus Christ ought to call for. undecided

Dear Kobojunkie,

Let me remind you that no man born of a woman can be immune to frailties and weakness. You see, it is practically impossible to leave a long life among men and not do something foolish. The French Philosopher Michel de Montaigne amply put it best: "Contagion is very dangerous in crowds. You must either imitate the vicious or hate them."
We're all men of like passions and have the proclivity to do stupid things. The only good person who ever walked the earth was Jesus Christ: and they killed him!
The Bible described Elijah, a man who called down fire from heaven and walked in signs and wonders, as a man of like passion like you and I. This is why I'm shocked when people throw rocks at others and completely anaesthetize their own vicious tendencies.
Let me reiterate here the second time, if BBC were to exist in the day of our Lord Jesus they would've called him the leader of a cult? For instance, the Lord Jesus once said to his disciples:
John 6:53-56
[53]Then Jesus said unto them, Verily, verily, I say unto you, Except ye eat the flesh of the Son of man, and drink his blood, ye have no life in you.
[54]Whoso eateth my flesh, and drinketh my blood, hath eternal life; and I will raise him up at the last day.
[55]For my flesh is meat indeed, and my blood is drink indeed.
[56]He that eateth my flesh, and drinketh my blood, dwelleth in me, and I in him.

If this statement were made in this day of the internet, the whole world would've gone bizzack. Myriads of Media houses would've said, they are practicing cannibalism in Christendom.
Religion / Re: TB Joshua: The Church And The Times by ocnovakmichael(m): 9:37pm On Jan 18
Jesus is Lord
Religion / Re: TB Joshua: The Church And The Times by ocnovakmichael(m): 10:53am On Jan 17
sureway1:
why not allow this issue rest?
if you have a discerning spirit, you do not need to struggle to know fake ones.
aside having discerning spirit... mere looking at things done in the church.. most of those stuffs contradicts the scripture and you are here doing cover up. which body of Christ. is SCOAN in any christian body in nigeria? they did't allow him join because they know SCOAN is not a Church.

Go check all the pastors doing cover up too... what they are doing contradicts the scripture.. Now take a look at all the great men of God in Nigeria, how many of them are behind TB joshua while alive or now that he is dead. Instead they sensitize their members not to go to SCOAN.

Now let me tell you those you can deceive.

people below 25 years and have spent their live time outside lagos.... but you see lagosian above 30yrs... all your PR na nonsense to them.. we know TB joshua since childhood.

Sir, I got your point and share your passion also. However, becoming a member of the body of Christ is not a function of joining an organization such as CAN or being validated by any one of the so called "great men of God."
One who is a member of the body of Christ is one who confess Jesus as Lord, who have been baptized, who fellowship in the same faith in Christ.

On the one hand, what is a cult? Do you know if BBC were to exist in the day of our Lord Jesus they would've called him the leader of a cult? For instance, the Lord Jesus once said to his disciples:
John 6:53-56
[53]Then Jesus said unto them, Verily, verily, I say unto you, Except ye eat the flesh of the Son of man, and drink his blood, ye have no life in you.
[54]Whoso eateth my flesh, and drinketh my blood, hath eternal life; and I will raise him up at the last day.
[55]For my flesh is meat indeed, and my blood is drink indeed.
[56]He that eateth my flesh, and drinketh my blood, dwelleth in me, and I in him.


If this statement were made in this day of the internet, the whole world would've gone bizzack. Myriads of Media houses would've said, they are practicing cannibalism in Christendom. But this they don't understand because Jesus was not talking about his literal body and blood but faith in his death, resurrection and blood.

In the final analysis, we have no right whatsoever to judge another man's servant but we have the right to judge righteous judgment, pray for them, and correct them in love if necessary.
Romans 14:4
[4]Who art thou that judgest another man's servant? to his own master he standeth or falleth. Yea, he shall be holden up: for God is able to make him stand.
Religion / Re: TB Joshua: The Church And The Times by ocnovakmichael(m): 6:08am On Jan 17
When they brought the woman caught in the very act of adultery to Jesus, after the crowd had dismissed, he asked the woman two questions:
John 8:10
[10]When Jesus had lifted up himself, and saw none but the woman, he said unto her, Woman, where are those thine accusers? hath no man condemned thee?

[11]She said, No man, Lord. And Jesus said unto her, Neither do I condemn thee: go, and sin no more.

This is a phrase whose time has come: the very last phrase of Jesus to that woman. "Go, and sin no more."
That very Statement was made for every man under heaven.
Religion / Re: How An Amputee Could Receive A Miracle. by ocnovakmichael(m): 10:39pm On Jan 16
Many imply that it is impossible for an amputee to grow new limb. So I ask that question, which is better: to be in health or to grow a new limb?

Awaiting your response...
Religion / Re: TB Joshua: The Church And The Times by ocnovakmichael(m): 12:58pm On Jan 16
Jesus is Lord!
Religion / Re: TB Joshua: The Church And The Times by ocnovakmichael(m): 5:39pm On Jan 14
You see, it is very difficult to live a long life here on earth without doing something stupid.
There's a saying that misery enjoys company that is why I placed myself in the midst of those two men.
It is amazing how we see other people's fault because the spotlight is on them, and seemingly having amnesia over our own faults.
TB Joshua and TD Jakes are human having the same passion like you and I; and are prone to mistakes. Yet who amongst us human have not made stupid mistakes.
The Bible says all have sinned. You read this scripture and look away at the other person's fault and call him or her a sinner.

Now the take away here is that those leaders, their mistakes notwithstanding, are right in their hearts but wrong in their heads.
The BBC released a documentary which tends to change the minds of people from the faith which we profess as Christians. And here you are calling TB Joshua a leader of a cult.

In the one hand, what is a cult? Do you know if BBC were to exist in the day of our Lord Jesus they would've called him the leader of a cult? For instance, the Lord Jesus once said to his disciples:
John 6:53-56
[53]Then Jesus said unto them, Verily, verily, I say unto you, Except ye eat the flesh of the Son of man, and drink his blood, ye have no life in you.
[54]Whoso eateth my flesh, and drinketh my blood, hath eternal life; and I will raise him up at the last day.
[55]For my flesh is meat indeed, and my blood is drink indeed.
[56]He that eateth my flesh, and drinketh my blood, dwelleth in me, and I in him.


If this statement were made in this day of the internet, the whole world would've gone bizzack. Myriads of Media houses would've said, they are practicing cannibalism in Christendom. But this they don't understand because Jesus was not talking about his literal body and blood but faith in his death, resurrection and blood.

In the final analysis, we have no right whatsoever to judge another man's servant but we have the right to judge righteous judgment, pray for them, and correct them in love if necessary.
Romans 14:4
[4]Who art thou that judgest another man's servant? to his own master he standeth or falleth. Yea, he shall be holden up: for God is able to make him stand.


Jude 1:24-25
[24]Now unto him that is able to keep you from falling, and to present you faultless before the presence of his glory with exceeding joy,
[25]To the only wise God our Saviour, be glory and majesty, dominion and power, both now and ever. Amen.


Notice in both scriptures, God says, I am able to make them stand!
As a matter of fact, while you are accusing them, they might have asked God to forgive them and you the accuser will die in your bitterness and go to where the embittered have their place in the great beyond.

Let us be careful of our utterances. The Bible says in 1 Corinthians 10:12
"Wherefore let him that thinketh he standeth take heed lest he fall."
Religion / Re: TB Joshua: The Church And The Times by ocnovakmichael(m): 3:22pm On Jan 14
As a matter of fact, I was in SCOAN today and the move of God was and is tangible.
Religion / Re: TB Joshua: The Church And The Times by ocnovakmichael(m): 5:45am On Jan 14
In all things, we must stand in faith
Religion / Re: TB Joshua: The Church And The Times by ocnovakmichael(m): 11:54pm On Jan 13
Not deliberately did I assume that position. Just decided to spice up curiosity and make a hot topic such as that subtropical.

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Religion / TB Joshua: The Church And The Times by ocnovakmichael(m): 11:23pm On Jan 13
In the Bible, certain men had understanding of the times, to know what action men ought to take in certain situations. For instance, in 1 Chronicles 12:32 scripture says, "And of the children of Issachar, which were men that had understanding of the times, to know what Israel ought to do." Also, in the book of Daniel, Daniel himself had understanding of the times. "In the first year of his reign, I, Daniel, understood from the sacred books, according to the word of the LORD to Jeremiah the prophet, that the desolation of..." (Daniel 9:2). Further more, when the Lord Jesus was born, the Bible says, wise men from the east knew a King was born and they came to Jerusalem. "Now when Jesus was born in Bethlehem of Judaea in the days of Herod the king, behold, there came wise men from the east to Jerusalem" (Matthew 2:1).

The import and demerit here is that at epoch season(s) if men don't understand what action to take, they might miss the imperative of the season.
What am I getting to? In the late hours of January 8, 2024 the British Broadcasting Corporation (BBC) released a shocking chilling three-part investigative documentary titled “Disciples: The Cult of TB Joshua” which borders on several allegations against the founder of SCOAN.
This documentary has gained momentum and mixed reactions across the nations of the world, sending shock waves rocking the very foundation of the SCOAN and other allied institutions at the epicenter.
However, amidst several allegations, which the press picket to uncover, we must understand the underlying imports and ulterior motive of this documentary. This we cannot dismiss.
You see, in the wake of 2024, two revered Christian founders came under the severe scrutiny of both the press and the public. The likes of TD Jakes an American pastor and founder of the Potter's House Church; and TB Joshua a Nigeria pastor and founder of SCOAN.
Now I'm not attempting to be a conspiracy theorist here but the attack on both leaders is quite uncanny, looking at the close similarity of their initials: TD J and TB J. Both came from continents with the initials A. Both are Africans by race. And both are Nigerians by genealogy. TD Jakes was first placed in the spotlight before TB Joshua perhaps because the former is still living, while the latter is dead: life came before death. ("This is for the conspiracy buffs.")

Nevertheless, I'd employ church leaders to watch their utterances because every sheep require a shepherd and when the shepherded is attacked, the sheep will flee. "Strike the Shepherd, and the sheep will be scattered, and I will turn My hand against the little ones..." (Matthew 26:31).
Friend, this is not the time to play religion. This is neither the time to play church, nor dinomination whose opinion is right or wrong. Rather, this is the time we must come together as body of Christ to pray the same prayer the Lord Jesus prayed for the Church in the book of John "...that they may be one..." (John 17:11).
When similar situation befell the early church, they did not seek the opinions of men and the religious, rather the Bible says, they came to their own company and prayed for unity, boldness, signs and wonders. And after they'd prayed the place where they were gathered shook!

Acts 4:23-33
23. And being let go, they went to their own company, and reported all that the chief priests and elders had said unto them.
24. And when they heard that, they lifted up their voice to God with one accord, and said, Lord, thou art God, which hast made heaven, and earth, and the sea, and all that in them is:
25. Who by the mouth of thy servant David hast said, Why did the heathen rage, and the people imagine vain things?
26. The kings of the earth stood up, and the rulers were gathered together against the Lord, and against his Christ.

27. For of a truth against thy holy child Jesus, whom thou hast anointed, both Herod, and Pontius Pilate, with the Gentiles, and the people of Israel, were gathered together,
28. For to do whatsoever thy hand and thy counsel determined before to be done.
29. And now, Lord, behold their threatenings: and grant unto thy servants, that with all boldness they may speak thy word,
30. By stretching forth thine hand to heal; and that signs and wonders may be done by the name of thy holy child Jesus.
31. And when they had prayed, the place was shaken where they were assembled; and they were all filled with the Holy Ghost, and they spake the word of God with boldness.

32. And the multitude of them that believed were of one heart and of one soul: neither said any of them that ought of the things which he possessed was his own; but they had all things common.
32. And with great power gave the apostles witness of the resurrection of the Lord Jesus: and great grace was upon them all.


The world shook when BBC released the Documentary about TB Joshua. I'm strongly convinced that when the church come together and pray the above prayer for the body of Christ the whole earth will shake!

In the final analysis, the body of Christ should understand the times and seasons we are in just like the sons of Issachar, Daniel, and the wise men understood the times and seasons of that day. We must seek the mind of God concerning the aforementioned shepherds (TD Jakes and TB Joshua) and their respective sheep in order keep the church in the right perspective. As for me, I'm convinced the gates of hell shall not prevail against the church, the confusion notwithstanding.

Just so you know, I was at the SCOAN today for the service. And the move of God's Spirit was and is tangible.
The church is matching on from victory to victory!


Jesus is Lord!

Do not hide knowledge, propagate it!

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