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Truthseeker10:
So anyone going to the hospital when he or her is physically sick has no faith?

Do you know any church that practice this teaching? If yes, can you mention?

In Proverbs the fourth chapter and the twentieth through the twenty-second verses, the Bible says,

Proverbs 4:20-22
[20]My son, attend to my words; incline thine ear unto my sayings.
[21]Let them not depart from thine eyes; keep them in the midst of thine heart.
[22]For they are life unto those that find them, and health to all their flesh.

Notice God says his words are life and health or medicine to all their flesh.

If you will go to hospital, that's fine and good. But God says, attend to his words. That is, put his words first.

There nothing wrong going to the hospital. In fact, I'd admonish any one who is willing to see a doctor to do so. However, one should endeavour to attend to God's word first.

You see, concerning king Asa, the Bible says:

1 Kings 15:11
[11]And Asa did that which was right in the eyes of the LORD, as did David his father.


However, when Asa was sick, the Bible says:

2 Chronicles 16:12-13
[12]And Asa in the thirty and ninth year of his reign was diseased in his feet, until his disease was exceeding great: yet in his disease he sought not to the LORD, but to the physicians.
[13]And Asa slept with his fathers, and died in the one and fortieth year of his reign.


That text says, Asa did not sought the Lord concerning his sickness but to the physicians and he died.

You see, consulting physicians when one is sick is good and fine, but before seeking their advice, seek God's word.

Jesus told the Samaritan woman that it is not good to take the children's bread and give it to the dogs. The children's bread here is physical healing. It is the will of God to take sickness away from his children.

Truthseeker10:
So according to your explanation of James 5:14, people who are physically sick should go to elders of the church to get well and not the hospital?

Do you know any church where this practice is done? If yes, can you mention?

Brother, the Bible says in James 5:14

James 5:14
[14]Is any sick among you? let him call for the elders of the church; and let them pray over him, anointing him with oil in the name of the Lord:

James writing under the inspiration of the Holy Ghost says, the prayer of faith shall heal the sick when the sick is prayed for and anointed with oil in the name of Jesus Christ.

Truthseeker10:
Give examples of those not rightly dividing the word of God.

Paul wrote to Timothy, a young minister, saying:
2 Timothy 2:15
[15]Study to shew thyself approved unto God, a workman that needeth not to be ashamed, rightly dividing the word of truth.

If a workman, that is, a minister of the word, can rightly divide the word of God, then that means the word can be wrongly divided.

For instance, I once told an elder in a certain denomination, whose wife is suffering from cataract to act on James 5:14. This text says, is there any sick among you, let him call for the elders of the church, and let them anoint him with oil in the name of the Lord, and the prayer of faith shall save the sick. And if he has committed sins, the Lord shall raise him up.

After I had explain with scriptures that the Lord will heal his wife if he act on James 5:14.
Yet, that elder told me if it is the will of God, she will be healed.

You see, that elder is not rightly dividing the word of God as touching healing, because In Exodus 23:25, God had already said I will take sickness a way from the mist of thee. And in Matthew 8:17 the Bible says, himself took our infirmities and bare our sickness. So it is the will of God to heal this wife. But the elder is still not settled as touching the will of God to heal his wife.


When we think wrong, we would speak and believe wrong.

Truthseeker10:
Tell me one false doctrine in the church.

The Bible says fools are dull of hearing (Matthew 13:15). Don't be a fool.

Let me for the third time repeat what I just got through saying,"in the world there are false doctrines, And yet, in the church there are those who are not rightly dividing the word of God.

Truthseeker10:
Oga kindly tell me one church that you know that has false doctrines.

I said in the world, there are false doctrines. And yet in the church, there are those who are not rightly dividing the word of God.

Truthseeker10:
So according to your Ephesians 4:13, contradiction is allowed in the body of Christ? If yes, is there anything like a false doctrine?

Brother that is not what meant. Don't run off a tangent. Rather, read in between lines as the "Truthseeker" you call yourself.
I said the church will come in the unity of faith when the church has come to full maturity and built up to the measure of the statue of Christ, as Ephesians 4:12-13 revealed.

There are false doctrines in the world. And yet, amongst Christians, there are those who are not rightly dividing the word of God.

But rest assured, even as Moses' rod swallowed up the rod of the Magicians, so will the rightly divided word of God swallow up every false teaching in the body of Christ.

Truthseeker10:
So when and how will churches walk in unity?

The question of when and how is a function of time and knowledge. Yet, the wisdom of God is not subject to time nor does the word of God contingent on our knowledge, intellect so to speak.
The Bible did not say when we come in the unity of the faith. Rather the Bible says, "Till we all come in the unity of the faith."
You see, the word "Till" Ephesian 4:13 is not a preposition but a conjunction. It joins what Paul just got through saying in verse Ephesians4:12 with what he's about to say in Ephesians 4:13.

Ephesians 4:12-13
12] For the perfecting of the saints, for the work of the ministry, for the edifying of the body of Christ:
13] Till we all come in the unity of the faith, and of the knowledge of the son of God, unto- a perfect man, unto the measure of the stature...

You see, mathematically the number 12 comes before the number 13. And as such, the church will come in the unity of the faith when Ephesian 4:12 is fulfilled. Now the question is: has the church come into perfection (maturity)? No. Is the church of Christ fully built up? No. You see, until Ephesians 4:12 is fulfilled, verse 13 will not be fulfilled.

Truthseeker10:
But how will all Christians be in doctrinal unity when they don't have a central source of information? Will churches with different pastors and contradictory doctrines ever become united?

That is a good question brother.

You see, the church will not become united in doctrines. All Catholics will not become Pentecostal; all Celestial will not become Catholics; all Baptist will not become Pentecostal; neither will all Pentecostal agree in doctrine. However, amongst doctrinal tangents, the church, the body of Christ, will ultimately become one in the faith.

Paul writing by the Spirit, did not say till we all come in the unity of doctrine, nor did he say, till we come in the unity of denomination, no. Rather, the Spirit signify through Paul's letter: "Till we all come in the unity of the faith..." (Eph. 4:13). You see, the churches strength is in the faith in Christ Jesus.
Also, the lord Jesus corroborated that when he says, "But I have prayed for thee, that thy faith fail not: and when thou art converted, strengthen thy brethren" (Luke 22:32).

The just will come in the unity of the faith because the just shall leave by faith. And without faith it is impossible to please God.

You see, good works is good, but that does not please God. Also, good Christian doctrines, theology, Christian denomination are good, but those cannot please God. It is faith that please God. It is the faith that the church will come into unity of, so to speak.

jom28gy:
pleasing to God to commercialised the words of God or how?

Have you not read the word of the LORD, "My cities through prosperity shall yet be spread abroad" (Zechariah 1:17). In another place scripture says, "I will hiss for them, and gather them; for I have redeemed them: and they shall increase as they have increased" (Zechariah 10:8-9). further more, "The harvest truly is great, but the labourers are few: pray ye therefore the Lord of the harvest, that he would send forth labourers into harvest" (Luke 10:2)

How come we are seeing the increase in labourers as we have in many churches today and you are against it? Brother, it is the will of God for churches to spring up upon the earth: for it is written, "For the earth shall be filled with the knowledge of the glory of the Lord, as the waters cover the sea" (Habakkuk 2:14).

jom28gy:
where everybody is struggling to owned their own church, instead knowing God first

There's nothing wrong in bringing up your own congregation in the faith of Christ. We should encourage that: because it is pleasing to God.

jom28gy:
still saying the same thing, church is church

The Lord Jesus always knew their would be division amongst his followers when he prayed, in the gospel of John:

John 17:11
[11]And now I am no more in the world, but these are in the world, and I come to thee. Holy Father, keep through thine own name those whom thou hast given me, that they may be one, as we are.

And Paul writing by the inspiration of the Holy Ghost, reiterated the same notion in a different manner

Ephesians 4:13
[13]Till we all come in the unity of the faith, and of the knowledge of the Son of God, unto a perfect man, unto the measure of the stature of the fulness of Christ:

The church needs to walk in the love of God that's in us to dam the tides of division amongst Christians

jom28gy:
Church causes division among each other, why

Just for corrections, when I wrote Canaan Land and local assemblies, I don't mean other churches, I meant Living Faith Church local assemblies. These are the offshoot of the greater house, Canaan Land.

jom28gy:
Church causes division among each other, why

There is division amongst Christians because we have not matured in love.
If all Christians can meditate in 1 Corinthians chapter 13 we would learn to walk in unity.

Recently I was discussing with a brother, who is a Winner, and he said to me that he's not one to attend the community church. That he likes attending service in Canaan Land. This got me thinking: because ever since I became a Winner, I have not deliberated attending service at Canaan Land. Though I have had the longing to go but I'd not really giving much effort to it.

Recently, upon thinking about the words of that brother, that he's not one to attend the community church, I was like, is there something wrong about attending the community church? I looked around me and noticed that many around our community are like that brother. They don't like attending service at the community church. They rather go to Canaan Land to hear Bishop, which is good and fine.
As that thought became preponderate on my mind, I realized that even some Winners who reside opposite the community church, on Sunday morning ,prepare to attend service at Canaan Land.

Now don't get me wrong, there's nothing bad in going to Canaan Land if you're resident around Lagos-Ota and environs. However, the local community churches also need people to develop them. They need the strength of all and sundry to make the local church as aesthetic as what we have in Canaan Land today.

Unfortunately, many who go to Canaan Land are, by my own submission, presumptuous that the local Pastors don't have the same anointing as Bishop, which is true: because the disciple cannot be greater than the master (Matthew 9:11). However, the same corporate anointing which flows from Canaan Land is the same in all the local community churches. But many don't believe this, and so many are not well established as a Winner in their local church communities.

At one time, Bishop said, God showed him fire, as in the anointing, coming down and splitting into several splinters. This the Lord said to him that the same anointing that is resident in Canaan Land, is resident in all the local assemblies and Home Cells. Now why many don't believe this and attend services in their local assemblies, but would rather go to Canaan Land, I don't know. Many perhaps do not believe in the words of the Bishop in this aspect, or they would rather see Bishop than the local Pastor.

2 Chronicles 20:20
[20]And they rose early in the morning, and went forth into the wilderness of Tekoa: and as they went forth, Jehoshaphat stood and said, Hear me, O Judah, and ye inhabitants of Jerusalem; Believe in the LORD your God, so shall ye be established; believe his prophets, so shall ye prosper.

Notice scripture says, "... Believe his prophets, so shall ye prosper." You see, many are not prospering in their local assemblies because they do not take heed to the words of the prophet concerning the fact the the same corporate anointing in Canaan Land is obtainable in all local assemblies. For the Bishop had said, the same corporate anointing which is resident in Canaan Land, resides in all the local community churches, and Home Cells.
That statement is scriptural. And until many a Winner believe in it, they shall not be established amongst their brethren in their local assemblies.
Now why did I say that statement by the Bishop is scriptural? In 1 Samuel the thirtieth chapter, David speaking by the inspiration of the Holy Ghost says:

1 Samuel 30:24
[24]For who will hearken unto you in this matter? but as his part is that goeth down to the battle, so shall his part be that tarrieth by the stuff: they shall part alike.

Notice that text says, "... But as his part is that goeth down to the battle, so shall his part be that tarrieth by the stuff: they shall part alike."
Put somewhat differently in this context, 'But as the blessings and encounters of he that attend service in Canaan Land, so shall his blessings and encounters be that tarrieth in the local assembly: they both shall part alike.'

When I got this revelation, I decided there is no need heading down to Canaan Land, when I can have the same blessings by walking a stone throw from my house to the local assembly.

As a Winner, you are part of the Living Faith Church Worldwide, founded by Bishop David Oyedepo. While Canaan Land is the international headquarters of the church, attendance is not mandatory.

The church encourages members to attend services at their local assemblies or community churches, which are usually closer and more convenient. These local assemblies are still part of the Living Faith Church Worldwide and provide opportunities for worship, teaching, and fellowship.

However, attending services at Canaan Land can be a powerful and enriching experience, especially during special programs and events. Many Winners do travel to Canaan Land for these occasions, but it's not a requirement.

Ultimately, as a Winner, you should seek to attend services at a location that feeds your spirit and helps you grow in your faith, whether that's at your local community church or Canaan Land.


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In a rock-hewn town called Bethany, there lived a woman whose name was Mary; and she has a sister whose name was Martha.
It was that same Mary which anointed Jesus with ointment, and wiped his feet with her hair.
However, one day Jesus came to visit Mary, Martha, and their brother Lazarus. While the Lord was in their house, Martha was busy trying to fix the Lord a hot plate, while Mary sat at the Lord's feet, and heard his word. Then Martha came to the Lord and said, Lord, wouldn't it be right for Mary to join me in the kitchen? But the Lord replied Martha saying, "Martha, Martha, thou art careful and troubled about many things: But one thing is needful; and Mary has chosen that good part, which shall not be taken away from her."

You see, many things that we are anxious and careful of are not necessary. In hind sight, look back, in your own life, some of the things that you were afraid will cost you your life, money, children, and health were not necessary.

Martha was concerned about how to do this and that, but the Lord objected that those things are not needful. However, one thing and one thing alone is needful and Mary has chosen that good part. Now what is that good part which Mary chose?

Luke 10:39
[39]And she had a sister called Mary, which also sat at Jesus' feet, and heard his word.

The Bible says, Mary chose to hear Jesus' word.
May be it's only me, but I often wonder what Jesus told Mary. What exactly were they discussing, and what did Mary hear Jesus say.

Luke 10:39,42
[39]And she had a sister called Mary, which also sat at Jesus' feet, and heard his word.
[42]But one thing is needful: and Mary hath chosen that good part, which shall not be taken away from her.

Notice Jesus says, what Mary heard shall not be taken away from her. Put slightly differently, whatever their conversation was, Mary will never forget what Jesus told her.
When I was meditating along this line, I stopped to ask myself, what are the likely words Jesus might have told Mary that shall not be taken away from her? Then I read where in Luke's gospel Jesus has as his custom of saying certain words when engaged in a conversation.

Luke 4:16,18-19
[16]And he came to Nazareth, where he had been brought up: and, as his custom was, he went into the synagogue on the sabbath day, and stood up for to read.
[18]The Spirit of the Lord is upon me, because he hath anointed me to preach the gospel to the poor; he hath sent me to heal the brokenhearted, to preach deliverance to the captives, and recovering of sight to the blind, to set at liberty them that are bruised,
[19]To preach the acceptable year of the Lord.

Notice verse 16 says, "... as his custom was..." Well, if it's Jesus' custom to inform people that "the Spirit of the Lord is upon me, because he hath anointed me to preach the gospel to the poor; he hath sent me to heal the brokenhearted, to preach deliverance to the captives, and recovering of sight to the blind, to set at liberty them that are bruised, To preach the acceptable year of the Lord," then he wouldn't say anything to Mary that is remotely different from what his custom was.
Reading in between the lines of scriptures, I believe Jesus might have told Mary, 'I'm anointed to preach, to heal, to set the captive free. I'm the Christ, the anointed, the resurrection and the life.' Since this was his custom.

Now to be smart, someone might ask, how did you know that's what Jesus said to Mary? Well my question to that someone would be, how did you know that is not what Jesus said to Mary? Because the Bible just got through saying, "as his custom was."

Now what am I getting to? Those words of Jesus which Mary heard, which I believe she'd told it to Martha her sister, would later be the basis of faith that led to Lazarus' resurrection.

John 11:1,3
[1]Now a certain man was sick, named Lazarus, of Bethany, the town of Mary and her sister Martha.
[3]Therefore his sisters sent unto him, saying, Lord, behold, he whom thou lovest is sick.

Notice it was Lazarus' sisters that sent for the Lord Jesus informing him that Lazarus his friend is sick. Why? Because Jesus, as his custom was, on a visit, had told Mary, 'I'm anointed to preach, to heal, to set the captive free. I'm the Christ, the anointed, the resurrection and the life.'
Nevertheless, Lazarus slept as a result of his illness, and Jesus decided to come and wake him up.

John 11:20-21,32
[20]Then Martha, as soon as she heard that Jesus was coming, went and met him: but Mary sat still in the house.
[21]Then said Martha unto Jesus, Lord, if thou hadst been here, my brother had not died.
[32]Then when Mary was come where Jesus was, and saw him, she fell down at his feet, saying unto him, Lord, if thou hadst been here, my brother had not died.


I want you to notice something verses 21 and 32, and that is, both Martha and her sister Mary independently said the exact same words to Jesus "Lord, if thou hadst been here, my brother had not died." The question is why? Because of what they'd heard Jesus say "'I'm anointed to preach, to heal, to set the captive free. I'm the Christ, the anointed, the resurrection and the life.'"

Now here is an illustration to what I want to pass across: if you were my very close friend, and I told you I'm the proprietor of a fleet of redline taxi vehicle. And anytime you get to the bus stop and a redline taxi is boarding passengers, all you need to ride to your destination free of charge is just a phone call to me, and I will order the driver to board you for free. And I gave you my complimentary card with my phone number on it.
Then, one day you got to the bus stop and a redline taxi was boarding, you remembered what I told you about getting a free ride; and you deep your hand into your purse to get out the complimentary card, which I gave to you so you could call me. Upon looking into your purse, you could not find the card so you paid the fare, at a great cost, to get to your destination.
And the next day I came to visit you and you related that incident at the bus stop to me. I bet your reaction would be thus, "Friend, If I was able to reach you that day, I know you will talk to your driver to board me for free." Why? Because that is what I told you. And at every time you get to the bus stop and a redline taxi is boarding, you will always remember my words.

In like manner, that was what Jesus told Martha concerning what Mary had heard, "... Mary has chosen that good part, which shall not be taken away from her."

Express somewhat differently, Mary and Martha independently said the exact same words to Jesus when he came to raise Lazarus: "If thou hadst been here, my brother had not died." Because that was what Jesus had told Mary, 'I'm anointed to preach, to heal, to set the captive free. I'm the Christ, the anointed, the resurrection and the life.'

The lesson, lay hold on what the Lord Jesus has revealed, personally, to you through the word and plead your case.


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