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Christianity EtcRe: Is It Right To Call On The Name Of The God Of Your Pastor When You're In Trouble by ocnovakmichael(op): 8:46am On Dec 05, 2024
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Christianity EtcRe: Spiritual Trade Secret by ocnovakmichael(op): 7:03pm On Nov 24, 2024
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Christianity EtcSpiritual Trade Secret by ocnovakmichael(op):
The most powerful information any man, or a business, or a corporation can ever have is a trade secret. It gives the man, the business, or the corporation the edge – the competitive advantage over competition. A trade secret is what differentiates the winners from the also-rans. It is what differentiates two craftsmen purveying the same product, though practicing the same trade. It is what differentiates Coca-Cola from Pepsi, though both produce cola drinks. It is what differentiates Amazon from eBay, though both are e-commerce channels. It is what differentiates David from Goliath, though both came to the forefront to battle.
Now to fully understand the concept of the world’s most prized phrase “trade secret,” there’s need to define what a trade secret is and the cost of divulging a trade secret.

A trade secret is any information or intellectual property that is commercially valuable and provides a competitive advantage to the holder over its competitors. Put slightly differently, the holder of a trade secret knows something that its competitors have no clue of. And this knowledge avails the holder the eyes of a prophet: to see beyond the curve without disturbing too many who stand obliviously in the light.
For the most part, a trade secret is every so often kept a family secret: passing from generation to generation. It is kept as a legacy for a business or a corporation and established under the law. From time immemorial secret organizations thrive because members must swear under oath not to divulge the secret that they’ve been exposed to. As a matter of fact, the word occult means secret. They go as far as swearing with their own blood under an oath to protect whatever secret that is in that organization. They understand the consequence of exposing the organization’s confidential information. Civilians or military officials caught for espionage are tried and when convicted and either jailed or shot dead.

The cost of divulging a trade secret is too high a price to pay; it may cause you, the mole, your life or a protracted time in federal penitentiary, of which the minimum confinement period is fourteen years.

Consider, for illustration, the epic story of Samson and Delilah, which illustrates to us the grievous consequence of divulging confidential information. Before the birth of Samson an angel appeared to his mother with classified information. This information is meant to shape and galvanize Samson’s life and destiny. Samson was predestinated to deliver Isreal from the Philistines, so the angel told his mother that on no account should a razor or sharp object touch the head of Samson.
When Samson was born, he was endowed with strength unlike any other man born of a woman under heaven. At one time Samson tore a charging lion with his bare hands. And at another time, he struck down a thousand men of the Philistines army with a donkey’s jawbone. However, this same Samson in whose hands a binding rope became like charred flax was brought to a piece of bread because of his inability to secure classified information.
Some time later, Samson fell in love with a Philistine woman called Delilah. On several occasions Delilah nagged and prodded Samson saying, “Tell me the secret of your great strength and how you can be tied and subdued.” And Samson gave up and told Delilah his trade secret: “No razor has ever been used on my head… If my head were shaved, my strength would leave me, and I would become as weak as any other man.”
After Samson had told Delilah the secret to his strength, the Philistines came with a sharp blade and had the seven braids of his hair shaved off and his strength left him, and they subdued him. More so, they gouged out his eyes and bind him with shackles and made him grind grain in prison.
Oh! How are the mighty fallen! For by divulging a trade secret to a Philistine mole Samson, the intrepid deliverer, suddenly became a byword. And this cost him his life.

Proverbs 6:26
[26] For by means of a whorish woman a man is brought to a piece of bread: and the adulteress will hunt for the precious life.




Jesus is Lord!

Do not hoard knowledge, propagate it!
Christianity EtcRe: Is It Right To Call On The Name Of The God Of Your Pastor When You're In Trouble by ocnovakmichael(op): 8:13am On Nov 22, 2024
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Christianity EtcRe: Is It Right To Call On The Name Of The God Of Your Pastor When You're In Trouble by ocnovakmichael(op): 7:16pm On Nov 21, 2024
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Christianity EtcRe: Is It Right To Call On The Name Of The God Of Your Pastor When You're In Trouble by ocnovakmichael(op): 4:46pm On Nov 20, 2024
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Christianity EtcRe: Is It Right To Call On The Name Of The God Of Your Pastor When You're In Trouble by ocnovakmichael(op): 8:01pm On Nov 19, 2024
MaxInDHouse:
Is it the dictionary (book written by pagans) that should define who are Christians or the Bible God's word?

I showed you what Jesus and Paul said about Christians you want to ignore that for what is written in a book by unbelievers.

Well when talking about SPIRITUAL things the dictionary has no say true Christians must have the same line of thought {John 17:22; 1Corinthians 1:10; Ephesians 4:3} which will make them have love among themselves {John 13:34-35} not different religion CLAIMING they believe in Christ yet there is no unity among them.
For your information any religion that's not in harmony with another but claiming they have the same belief with others is founded on lies not the truth.
That's what Jesus said! smiley
okay.
Christianity EtcRe: Is It Right To Call On The Name Of The God Of Your Pastor When You're In Trouble by ocnovakmichael(op): 5:35pm On Nov 19, 2024
MaxInDHouse:
Christendom means different religious groups with contradicting teachings and conflicting doctrines all claiming they are worshiping the same God but Christians are members of one group having the same line of thought {1Corinthians 1:10} and one mind! John 17:22
okay. I think you could use an original dictionary more often: the one you didn't write yourself.

Christianity EtcRe: Is It Right To Call On The Name Of The God Of Your Pastor When You're In Trouble by ocnovakmichael(op): 1:43pm On Nov 19, 2024
MaxInDHouse:
Churches of Christendom use to sing that a lot of times not Christians! undecided
Hmmm. I think I underestimated your logic. So Christendom is different from the collection of Christians?
Christianity EtcRe: Is It Right To Call On The Name Of The God Of Your Pastor When You're In Trouble by ocnovakmichael(op): 11:05am On Nov 19, 2024
MaxInDHouse:
Jesus has spoken:

But you, do not you be called Rabbi, for one is your Teacher, and all of you are brothers. Moreover, do not call anyone your father on earth, for one is your Father, the heavenly One. Neither be called leaders, for your Leader is one, the Christ. Matthew 23:8-10

Of course we do have people who taught us the way of holiness just as God commanded Israelite parents to teach their children {Deuteronomy 6:6-7} and we surely need to see such ones as our parents but then calling on the same God they serve differs from calling God as if He belongs to them, we are all worshipers of the same God provided we strive to live by the rules of the same God {1Corinthians 1:10} that's what causes confusion today as someone will say "the God of Kumuyi" another will say "the God of Adeboye" yet another will say "the God of Oyedepo" whereas these people aren't teaching the same thing which makes those following them to continue contradicting themselves.
Well i only call on the God of Jesus because that is the one and only perfect worshiper of my God who never for once committed any blunder so with him i feel like a conqueror all the time!
You're not far from the truth brother. However, the brother in that article is not wrong for saying, "God of Bishop... show yourself."

Often we have prayed and sung "God of Elijah send down fire," haven't we?
Christianity EtcRe: Is It Right To Call On The Name Of The God Of Your Pastor When You're In Trouble by ocnovakmichael(op): 8:12am On Nov 19, 2024
Friend, the Bible both teaches and encourages having a spiritual father (Hebrews 6:12). And in the day of trouble, it won't be an injustice to call on the name of the God of your spiritual father as Elisha did when he cried, "where is the God of Elijah". Even the sorcerers knew this, in casting out demons, when they say, "We adjure you in the name of Jesus whom Paul serve." The only problem they had was that Paul was not their spiritual father and they were not born again children of God, and as such have not the right/power to cast out that demon (John 1:12)
Christianity EtcRe: Is It Right To Call On The Name Of The God Of Your Pastor When You're In Trouble by ocnovakmichael(op): 5:47pm On Nov 18, 2024
Kayberg:
Do you even understand my comment before quoting me?
Even the god that Charles Taze Russell worships is not the GOD of heaven.
I'm talking about those who serve the Almighty God, whose faith follow.
Christianity EtcRe: Is It Right To Call On The Name Of The God Of Your Pastor When You're In Trouble by ocnovakmichael(op): 4:24pm On Nov 18, 2024
MaxInDHouse:
Jesus corrected that notion in the first century when he told his listeners not to call anyone their father in the Lord {Matthew 23:8-10} that is why you can't hear of Christians calling on the God of Peter or Paul in the New Testament Paul rebuked those doing so:

For some from the house of Chloʹe have informed me regarding you, my brothers, that there are dissensions among you. What I mean is this, that each one of you says: “I belong to Paul,” “But I to A·polʹlos,” “But I to Ceʹphas,” “But I to Christ.”  Is the Christ divided? Paul was not executed on the stake for you, was he? Or were you baptized in the name of Paul? I thank God that I baptized none of you except Crisʹpus and Gaʹius. 1 Corinthians 12:11-14

Once you claim to be a Christian you're to be called a worshiper of the God of Jesus:

Jesus said to her: “Stop clinging to me, for I have not yet ascended to the Father. But go to my brothers and say to them, ‘I am ascending to my Father and your Father and to my God and your God." John 20:17

The God Jesus worshiped is my own God! smiley
This is not about calling one father. This is following the faith of your spiritual father who is strong in faith unto God.
Christianity EtcRe: Is It Right To Call On The Name Of The God Of Your Pastor When You're In Trouble by ocnovakmichael(op): 7:22am On Nov 18, 2024
MaxInDHouse:
The one to call upon is your own God!
Of course, the one to call is your own God. However, it's not wrong to call upon the God of your spiritual father because the Bible teaches we should be followers of them who through faith obtain the promise. So it's not wrong to call upon the God of your spiritual father because Elisha did.

Hebrews 6:12
[12]That ye be not slothful, but followers of them who through faith and patience inherit the promises.
Christianity EtcRe: Is It Right To Call On The Name Of The God Of Your Pastor When You're In Trouble by ocnovakmichael(op): 7:16am On Nov 18, 2024
Kayberg:
Elisha saw first hand mighty hand of GOD.
I have very deep personal experiences.
I won't call what was worshiped by anyone I don't know my God.
You answer is void of logic. If Elisha saw first hand the mighty hand of God, after Elijah was taken up to heaven, when he got to the river why didn't he call on the name of God, rather he chose to cry " Where is the God of Elijah."

My question to you is: was Elisha wrong to cry "where is the God of E Elijah?" If he's not wrong, then that testifier is not wrong too. It's that simple!
Christianity EtcRe: Is It Right To Call On The Name Of The God Of Your Pastor When You're In Trouble by ocnovakmichael(op): 5:26am On Nov 18, 2024
Kayberg:
What/Who do you think your pastor(s) worship, that you'd have to call on their GOD/god instead of the One True Living GOD you ought to have known?
How did Elisha know the God Elijah worshipped?

And, you, how did you know the God your own father worshipped?

Furnish me those answers
Christianity EtcRe: Is It Right To Call On The Name Of The God Of Your Pastor When You're In Trouble by ocnovakmichael(op): 10:28pm On Nov 17, 2024
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Christianity EtcRe: Is It Right To Call On The Name Of The God Of Your Pastor When You're In Trouble by ocnovakmichael(op): 9:36pm On Nov 17, 2024
OkCornel:
Closest thing I’ve seen to this in the New Testament is the seven sons of Scheva casting out demons in the name “Jesus whom Paul preaches” - Acts 19

It worked for a while until…well, you know how the rest of the story played out.
It did not work for those folks because, first, they were not born again as such, do not have the right to call out a demon (John 1:12); second, they were not mentored by Paul, and as such, Paul have no spiritual oversight, as a father, over them (Acts 20:28).

But it worked for Elisha because Elijah was his spiritual father (2 Kings 2:14)
It worked for that testifier in that article because the Bishop has spiritual oversight, as a father, over him (Acts 20:28).
Christianity EtcRe: Is It Right To Call On The Name Of The God Of Your Pastor When You're In Trouble by ocnovakmichael(op): 9:22pm On Nov 17, 2024
Righthussle:
Yes
Did you say yes because my article convinced you; or did you say yes because the word of God approves of it?
Christianity EtcRe: Is It Right To Call On The Name Of The God Of Your Pastor When You're In Trouble by ocnovakmichael(op): 7:15pm On Nov 17, 2024
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Christianity EtcIs It Right To Call On The Name Of The God Of Your Pastor When You're In Trouble by ocnovakmichael(op):
It was towards the end of the week and the Lord kept churning a scriptural verse in my heart. Several times I'd opened that verse of scripture and read and it'd bless me. The verse was "Behold, ye despisers, and wonder, and perish: for I work a work in your days, a work which ye shall in no wise believe, though a man declare it unto you" (Acts 13:41).

However, yesterday being Saturday the 16th of November '24, I woke up very early and that verse of scripture stood right in front of my face again. So I reached out my hands and grabbed my phone and typed those words on Google, and the search engine gave me three references to that text.

Isaiah 29:14
[14]Therefore, behold, I will proceed to do a marvellous work among this people, even a marvellous work and a wonder: for the wisdom of their wise men shall perish, and the understanding of their prudent men shall be hid.

Habakkuk 1:5
[5]Behold ye among the heathen, and regard, and wonder marvellously: for I will work a work in your days, which ye will not believe, though it be told you.


Acts 13:41
[41]Behold, ye despisers, and wonder, and perish: for I work a work in your days, a work which ye shall in no wise believe, though a man declare it unto you.


After I'd Studied those three references the Lord gave me understanding of what the prophets were prophesying about. Nevertheless, around 12 PM that same Saturday I stepped out to recharge electricity at a boot some 15/20 km from my place of residence. Usually when I get to the bus stop I will take a 10 minutes walk down to the boot, but on this day, I decided to take a ride to the boot. And the moment I arrived at the reception, I gave the attendant the card to recharge while I make the transfer: but only to discover my mobile phone network was down. So I sat down on a chair so I can wait for the network to come up for me to make the transfer. However, while I was still sitting, the attendant brought out a pamphlet of a certain church and started reading out a testimony to a middle aged man. And after she was done reading, she began laughing with the man mocking and making jest of the testimony and calling it a fake. And the man hinted that those church people have been brain-washed.

Upon hearing that, I was grieved in the spirit and that verse of scripture appeared in front of my face again; and right in my spirit I heard this voice, "This is the reason I have churned that scriptural verse in your heart."
Now this is the essence of the testimony which that attendant read to that man. 'The testifiers was attacked by robbers. And as they were about to cart away with his property, the testifier began calling on the name of the God of his Bishop, which I will not name here, saying, "Oh God of Bishop so and so show yourself!' And after he'd done that several times the robbers fled.

So I decided to join the conversation between that attendant and the man. First I asked both of them the question, "Are you a Christian?" The girl answered in the affirmative while the man said he's a Muslim. So I decided to school the attendant who claimed to be a Christian but have never read her Bible, the man being a Muslim I saved for later.

I then inquired of that attendant the question, "have you ever prayed in this manner "Oh God of Abraham, Isaac, and Jacob!"" She said she has never prayed like that in her life. I looked at her in the face and said you are a big lair. You see, she said so so she would not contradict her ignorance of the Bible.

I then said to her, "so you think that that testimony is a flat-out lie because the testifier shouted "Oh God of Bishop so and so show your self," and those robbers fled?" I said to her, have you not read in your Bible that it is written, "for I work a work in your days, a work which ye shall in no wise believe, though a man declare it unto you." I went a step further to ask both of them that, why is it that we make fun of the miraculous today, but when we see it in the Bible we accept it. Does it mean that God is no longer in the business of doing miracles these days?


You see, in the Bible God, speaking with Moses, referred to himself as the God of Abraham, the God of Isaac, and the God of Jacob

Exodus 3:15
[15]And God said moreover unto Moses, Thus shalt thou say unto the children of Israel, The LORD God of your fathers, the God of Abraham, the God of Isaac, and the God of Jacob, hath sent me unto you: this is my name for ever, and this is my memorial unto all generations.


Now in that text did you notice the phrase, "The LORD God of your fathers... ?" You see, the word father here refers to the one from whom you draw your spiritual or physical source and whom have authority over you. In this context, the testifier is calling on the God of his Bishop because his Bishop, as a father, has spiritual oversight over him (Acts 20:28), and he has faith in the God whom the Bishop serves (Hebrews 6:12).
Also, Elisha when he asked Elijah for a double portion of the anointing, declared, "My father, my father! The chariots of Israel and its horsemen!"(2 Kings 2:12). Elisha called Elijah his spiritual father because Elijah has spiritual oversight over him. But we know Elisha was the son of Shaphat. Yet, when Elisha needed a miracle, he did not call on any other God but the God of his father Elijah

Kings 2:14
[14]And he took the mantle of Elijah that fell from him, and smote the waters, and said, Where is the LORD God of Elijah? and when he also had smitten the waters, they parted hither and thither: and Elisha went over.


So if Elisha, when he needed a miracle, called on the God of his father Elijah, is it wrong for the testifier to call on the God of his Bishop?

Now the point I want to make clear here is that making jest of testimonies that defy logic should not be traced to a good Biblical Christian because God had already declared by the mouth of three witnesses that "I work a work in your days, a work which ye shall in no wise believe, though a man declare it unto you." Put somewhat differently, God will perform signs and wonders that when people hear of it, they will not believe it. I argued with that attendant saying, "If you have not read the Bible before and you were told that the shadow of a man walking by the street healed a sick man or woman, would you believe it?" Yet in the book of the Acts of the apostles such event was recorded.

Acts 5:15
[15]Insomuch that they brought forth the sick into the streets, and laid them on beds and couches, that at the least the shadow of Peter passing by might overshadow some of them.


After I'd expounded the word of God to both the attendant who claimed to be a Christian and the middle aged man who is a Muslim, both of them saw the light and retracted their words, and gave glory to God.


Jesus is Lord!

Do not hoard knowledge, propagate it!
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Christianity EtcRe: Prophetess Celestial of the Masters' Voice: A Fake or True by ocnovakmichael(op): 9:42pm On Nov 12, 2024
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