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malali:
LOL....She is a billionaire
She has already seen the best eye doctors in the world.
Trust me.
Unfortunately there is no eye transplant.
You think if 10 billion dollars can make Babangida walk......he wont be walking
When God wants to show you his power, he will take back some gifts people take for granted.

As much as I understand your train of thought, yet I will comment to the contrary: God is not and never the author of sickness. I won't believe God is punishing IBB or the woman in question for their past deeds. Sickness is the offshoot of SIN brought about by the devil.

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Ever8090:
you are a little far from reality of the gospel and you csn only gdt it right when you fix your mind on God and not on congregation

Brother, I said if the churches are preaching prosperity that's because our God is a God of prosperity. Or is our God a God of poverty and sickness and death? The later are the curse of the Law. And the Bible says in Galatians 3:13-14 that Christ has redeemed us from the curse of the law that we might receive the promise of the Spirit. Now what is this promise of the Spirit? This is the same promise God made to Abraham and to his seed, which is Christ: that in blessing I will will bless thee; and in the shall all the nations of the earth be blessed.

Now if I preach salvation, this means God is able to save, isn't he? (Roman 10:9) If I preach healing, this means our God is the healer, isn't he? (Exodus 15:26) If I preach love, this means our God is a God of love, isn't he? (1 John 4:7-9)
Now how come when I preach prosperity, you say I'm far from the truth. Is our God a God of lack and poverty? The psalmist says, the earth is the Lord's and the fulness thereof

Psalms 24:1
[1](A Psalm of David.) The earth is the LORD'S, and the fulness thereof; the world, and they that dwell therein.

How come the church is hated when you're only asserting what is written?

iramure:
like I said earlier that the "colonial master agenda" manual is a No No for me..I don't reckon with it. It's a dangerous book! I don't wish it for my enemy.

Brother, the Bible is more than just a book. It's the word of God. The book is alive. Not some dead doctrine or religious concoction. The word of God is Jesus himself.

I'd suggest you get acquainted with God through the word: because the word can speak with you.

Proverbs 6:20-22
[20]My son, keep thy father's commandment, and forsake not the law of thy mother:
[21]Bind them continually upon thine heart, and tie them about thy neck.
[22]When thou goest, it shall lead thee; when thou sleepest, it shall keep thee; and when thou awakest, it shall talk with thee.


Notice verse 22 says, it (the word) shall talk with the. You see, there's a great deal of difference between talking to you and talking with you.

The books of other religions of the word talk to their adherents, but the Bible, the word of God, talks with you. Talking to you is receiving a command on what and what to do, observe, or practice: being at the receiving end. But talking with you entails a mutual conversation with a friend. This is why it is only in the Bible you can get statement like, "Come now, let us reason together" (Isaiah 1:18).

The Bible is not a religious book to control the human race. It's a book to guide man to reclaim his lost glory.

iramure:
In as much as I would have loved to engage in a logical debate with you. However, the moment I realised that bible is the only source of knowledge you want us to refer to as our guide, I realise it's not worth it. I don't reckon with or refer to the bible for any purpose. I see it as a control manual and not a dependable document for logical task.

What is your source of truth? Don't back down on this. Let me know where your anchor of truth is gotten.
You see, I get it when people say the Bible is a control manual. What book on earth is not a control manual? Any intellectual exercise that expands the mind through philosophy, or doctrine, or teaching, or practice or experimentation is a control manual. I am a student of science, and in chemistry it is said that water is a constituent of two atoms of hydrogen and one atom of oxygen. But the question is: are those two elements the final truth about the composition make up of water? No. But the notion has control many minds for centuries.

Any fool can get truth from any source provided he back substantiate it through empirical analysis. But what exactly is the standard of truth? No ideology, notion or philosophy ever put together have been able to match the Bible interns of truth, prediction, empirical fact, archeology fact, or historic fact.

The Bible says fools say there is no God. Brother don't be a fool: because like a said earlier, you can't kick against the prick.

richie240:
My point:
In d previous post you laid the premise of canaanland attendees on 'choice' and I made it clear that not until of recent, those who attended canaanland on Sunday had no choice as there weren't any local assemblies in Lagos. It is of recent that we now have Sunday services 'decentralized'.

I understand your point brother. But my comment takes into consideration the present orientation of services in Living Faith Church. We can't be speaking from retrospect.

You're right in your submission anyway. Yet, it is still the prerogative of every Winner to attend service in Living faith church, Canaan Land or local assembly notwithstanding.

richie240:
I wouldn't know whether u were/are a member of winners and when u joined.
I was there before they announced that canaanland will be built. I was there when it was being built, partook in the labour offering when it was being built and was there after it was built.

Initially they maintained the 1st (7am) Sunday service in Raji oba and the next 3 services in canaanland.
After some time, the 1st service (in Raji oba) was cancelled altogether and all the 4 services were taken to canaanland. So much so for the 'choice'.

Thank God you're a pioneer member of Living Faith Church. I congratulate you sir

However, are you saying all the local assemblies having service on Sunday are in error? That the Bishop did not give the go-ahead to conduct service in these assemblies?

What is your point? Do you expect all and sundry to attend service at Canaan Land on Sunday? Have you not heard or read where Bishop said the same corporate anointing in Canaan Land is prevalent in all local assemblies. And as a matter of fact the Bible corroborate this when it says,

1 Samuel 30:23-24
[23]Then said David, Ye shall not do so, my brethren, with that which the LORD hath given us, who hath preserved us, and delivered the company that came against us into our hand.
[24]For who will hearken unto you in this matter? but as his part is that goeth down to the battle, so shall his part be that tarrieth by the stuff: they shall part alike.


David by the Spirit declares that the spoil of war, that is, the blessings and encounters in this context, will be the same for those that go down to battle and those that tarrieth by the stuff: they both shall part alike.

Brother, Just take a minute and think about it. Winners that attend service in their local assemblies, do you think they don't have the longing to travel down to Canaan Land? It could be that they're not bouyant in terms of funds, it could be that some of them women are heavily pregnant, it could be that many are old and as such cannot struggle to catch a bus. There are myriads of reasons. Yet you think it is not wise to attend service in one's local assembly.

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iramure:
well, we all are entitled to our opinion, I see religion as a mere tool for control from the colonial masters and nothing holy about the so called holy book. Religion has done nothing to help us as Africans

Of course you're entitled to your opinion. But let your opinion line up with God's. Otherwise you will see yourself fighting against your maker. In the book of Isaiah, the Bible says,

Isaiah 45:9
[9]Woe unto him that striveth with his Maker! Let the potsherd strive with the potsherds of the earth. Shall the clay say to him that fashioneth it, What makest thou? or thy work, He hath no hands?

Caution! Caution!! It is a curse to strive against God. The Lord Jesus told Paul when he was persecuting the church saying, "You can't kick against the prick." Christianity is the prick. And when you kick against it, you get hurt.
Therefore, Let your opinion line up with God's. And concerning the church, the Holy Ghost spoke through Paul saying, "And hath put all things under his feet, and gave him to be the head over all things to the church" (Ephesians 1:22). So the church is Jesus' body, of his flesh and bone.

Aguogba:
I asked you a question. Answer it and stop sounding like a philosopher.
I am a Christian and I bet you a better one than you may assume. Worshipping at the St. Peter’s of Basilica does not make anyone a better catholic. Na mumu mindset be that.

Thank God you're better than me. For I'm still leaning the ways of Christ because the Bible says, "But the path of the just is as the shining light, that shineth more and more unto the perfect day" (Prover 4:18). Also, the Bible says, "But we all, with open face beholding as in a glass the glory of the Lord, are changed into the same image from glory to glory, even as by the Spirit of the LORD" (2 Corinthians 3:18).

You see, I cannot claim to be better than you because I'm still learning to become as he (Christ) is.

As for your question, I replied you that I have been criticized by expert.

And attending Mass at St Peter's Basilica is good if you could afford it. Yet, that has nothing to add to your walk with God.

iramure:
I like anyone who reasons just as you do. I'm glad we are gradually waking up to the reality of the scam in religion

Brother, whilst I agree with you in some truth, I beg to differ that Christianity is a scam. Don't label what you did not manufacture.

Yampotatocarrot:
Funny question...

Does Sunday service hold in the community churches? Isn't all Sunday services supposed to be at Canaanland? No dey confuse me abeg

If you are a Winner, then you should know that Sunday services are held both at Canaan Land and all local assembles in Nigeria and around the world. The Bible says, "He who answers a matter before he hears it, It is folly..." Don't be one.

Yampotatocarrot:
Funny question...

Does Sunday service hold in the community churches? Isn't all Sunday services supposed to be at Canaanland? No dey confuse me abeg

If you are a Winner, then you should know that Sunday services are held both at Canaan Land and all local assembles in Nigeria and around the world. The Bible says, "He who answers a matter before he hears it, It is folly..." Don't be a fool.

Aguogba:
your mumu no too much like this?

I'm not surprised at your comment. When Jesus preached on the earth, many despise his teaching. They accuse him of being in league with the devil (Matthew 12:27). And concerning the apostles, they says, "These that have turned the world upside down are come here also" (Acts 17:6).

I have been criticize by expert. You have only joined the number of them.

Ezmans:
whom did you win

When we say we are Winners: it is not a notion of ideology. Rather, we are asserting what we are in Christ Jesus, "Ye are of God, little children, and have overcome them: because greater is he that is in you, than he that is in the world."

You see, even in plain english dictionary, an overcomer is a winner. If the greater one is in me, then, superlatively, I'm greater than anything that may come my way, isn't it? If I overcome all obstacles in my exam, as a student, then I will make the 100% mark. Making me a Winner isn't it? If I overcome sin by the blood of Jesus Christ, that means sin has no dominion over me, isn't it? If I over come ignorance and poverty, that means lack and wants are far from my household, isn't it?

Those are the non exhaustive reasons why we call ourselves at Living Faith Church, "WINNERS." Brother even if you're not a member of Living Faith Church, so far you're a born again child of God, you too are a Winner.

Ever8090:
one of the major cause of division among christians is because, majority of the church leaders have turn christianity into a very huge business empire so they are competing for members to make more gains. Especially those so called big churches in Nigeria are mostly business centers in disguise

No! The churches are not competing for members. Rather, they're compelling many in droves to come to Jesus. The Bible says, "And how can they believe in the one of whom they have not heard? And how can they hear without someone preaching to them? And how can anyone preach unless they are sent?" (Roman 10:14-15)

You see, Jesus speaking says, "Go into the world and make disciples of all nations..." The church is only trying to keep up with what Jesus is doing. Christ is adding to the church daily, across the world, such as should be saved (Acts 2:47).

Ever8090:
The time have come that men will no longer go to Jerusalem or come to this well to worship God, but they will worship God in truth and in spirit..." This is what Jesus Christ said. So where you go to worship does not matter but your relationship with God in truth and in spirit is all that matters.

No truer words has been said brother. Keep it up!

Ever8090:
when he said the harvest is many but labourers are few, he is talking about all this many churches spread on every street preaching rubbish just to amass wealth. True teachers are very few indeed. Opening churches on every corner of the street is different from propagating the word of God.
If we have churches littered on every space available and those churches are only about material prosperity as the likes of Salvation ministry, Winners chapel etc are doing then it means nothing to God but a lot to satan

If they preach prosperity in churches, that's because our God is a God of prosperity. As a matter of fact, the street of heaven is littered with Gold. Now let me ask you, if your own biological father is a wealthy man and also vast in charity works, well known all over the world: would you or would you not be proud to talk about his prosperity and how he helps people in the community?

DiasGodinHeaven:
No no no.
Except you are worshipping idol and a slave to the idol

Brother, I would rather say many are void of understanding.

richie240:
1. Canaan land is a 50,000 seater church.
If ployedepo encourages them to attend local churches he'll be shooting himself in the foot. If-You-know-you-know.

2. Those who leave the local church for canaanland just because they want to be under the direct teaching of Papa are either brainwashed, misguided or ignorant! If truly they want to hear directly 'from d souce' then they'll just have worshipped and attended the service online instead of wasting money to go to Ota. But, once again, how will d 50,000 seats be filled if everyone took that route?
I too was also guilty of this: I would leave the local church closer to me then - Raji oba - and go all d way to canaanland.

This is d main reason why even 'Papa' himself dare not encourage local church worship/attendance.

Jesus himself had told us the best way to worship him: not in physical structures made with sticks and bricks but in spirit and truth - in our hearts!

John 4:20-24
(20) "Our fathers worshipped in this mountain; and ye say, that in Jerusalem is the place where men ought to worship.

(21) Jesus saith unto her, Woman, believe me, the hour cometh, when ye shall neither in this mountain, nor yet at Jerusalem, (which includes both canaanland + local churches) worship the Father.

(22) Ye worship ye know not what: we know what we worship: for salvation is of the Jews.

(23) But the hour cometh, and now is, when the true worshippers shall worship the Father in spirit and in truth: for the Father seeketh such to worship him.

(24) God is a Spirit: and they that worship him must worship him in spirit and in truth."

Brother, I will speak to the contrary. Attending service in Canaan Land is not being brainwashed. It's a matter of choice. You see, the paralytic borne of four had to be carried from wherever he was to the place where Jesus was teaching in order to receive his healing (Mark 2:3-7).

Many are not knowledgeable as you and I to know that the corporate anointing resides in the local assemblies also. Yet it's still a matter of choice, to attend service in Canaan Land or in your local assembly.

aalangel:
...and you brought this matter to where there's mixed multitude?

The truth is not scared of the dark. The Bible says, "And the Light shinneth in darkness, and the darkness comprehendeth it not" (Johns 1:5). And in another place it says, "But all things that are exposed are made manifest by the light, for whatever makes manifest is light" (Ephesians 5:13).

Winners are not scared of criticism. We have been criticized by expert.

iramure:
It has clearly revealed that majority of people who prefer to travel kilometers just to catch a glimpse of Oyedepo, adeboye, kumuyi, and other big penticoastal celebrities preaching on service days are mere worshipers of men. I tell you these men are ordinary men like you with nothing special about any of them. Your respect for them make you see them as extraordinary but in real sense, they are mere business men.

Brother you're not far from the truth. Christians should learn to balance their faith because curse is the man that trust in man.

Kaycee54321:
Lmao.
Na the bible verse sanwdiched in between holy insults dey funny me.

Sorry for the laugh 😶

Those scriptures are to demolish those that think themselves wise, yet 're fools.

Corrections:
Pls stop wasting your time on that fellow that calls itself truthseeker. That is how he jumps on Christian threads to belittle them. Be warned!!!

Thanks for the warning. But as a Child of God, I shouldn't run from him that is in error but to correct him in love. However, as Moses' rod swallowed up the rods of the Magicians, so shall the word of God swallow every wrong imagination of man and hell.

ZUBY77:
What exactly are you winning?

Thread to massage the great Zombies all over black race

If you call us Zombies you're wrong because scripture says, "Only the leaving shall praise the Lord."
Zombies are the walking dead. For us Christians, the Bible says "We know that we have passed from death unto life because we love the brethren... (1 John 3:14). In other words, we have the God kind of life, Zoe, because the love of God, which is by the Spirit of Christ, is shed abroad in our hearts (Romans 5:5). So the Bible prove to the contrary that we are Zombies. Rather, we're the living.

tiswell:
Winners church sponsored post

No. I'm the Author of this article. Neither the Bishop nor any Winner man born of a woman sponsored this article. Only fools answer a matter before they hear it (Proverb 18:13). Don't be a fool.