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TheStrongest:
He won Olympic gold, U20 World Cup, All outside Spain

Lol... why do you think people accuse messi of not having a trophy with argentina?? its because those trophies you listed are not for 'senior competitions'... you could have also listed u15 and u19 as trophies he won for barca na..

Anyways.. trophies outside spain include world cup, copa america, confederations cup, club world cup, uefa super cup and ucl.... so bros, tell me which of these he won without neymar, iniesta and xavi

TheStrongest:
with over 200 games than the person in 3rd? and He's just 2 assists better than the person... What are you even saying Bros?

Bros abeg keep quiet if you don't have what to say.. with the way you talk ehnn, someone who does not know anything about football would think that cr7 does not even have up to 20 career assists

I'm a fan of cr7, but that does not mean I should start saying rubbish about Messi... I dont know why you Messi fans cant do the same with cr7

TheStrongest:
Ronaldo has failed to win UCL since Marcelo no longer gives him assists to score tap ins

Almighty Messi have not been able to win a single trophy outside spain without neymar, iniesta and xavi by his side

TheStrongest:
Yeah, semi click bait title

But if Ronaldo and Messi plays in the same team Messi will benefit nothing from that pairing while Ronaldo will enjoy free and spectacular assists from Leo. Truth is Ronaldo has nothing to offer Messi in such pairing situation.

If you think say I dey lie, make you cool down reason am. The dude offers nothing to his teammates

Apart from messi, tell me one player you know that has more assists than cr7

bayelsaowei:
please compare that lyon team and bayern Munich..how can you say messi only plays well when the team plays well..when has the barca team ever played well without messi sef?

Messi is barca..the team part is just for teams sake..the moment messi loses steam the team dies a natural death..ronaldo is keen more about scoring, whilst messi is about everything..you expect him to die when his team mates are useless and when he's fatigued?

And you say a relegation threatened team ronaldo can deliver? Like juventus abi? Abeg abeg no dey talk as a ronaldo fan..just dey objective for once..ronaldo has only moved from big team to big teams because he needs good players to play with..

So Messi's team mates at barca are now useless abi?? Wow.. anyways, killing the career of his team mates is something Messi is known for.. the way he killed the careers of lavezzi, aguero, di maria, higuian, etc at the international level, that's the same way he's killing the careers of coutinho, griezmann, dembele, etc at club level..

Let Messi leave barca or retire from international duties, let's see if the remaining players won't flourish... Messi's team mates at Argentina are good players while playing for their clubs, but the moment they put on their national jerseys, they suddenly become bad.. his team mates at barca nkor, they are flourishing with their national teams but when they play with Messi at club level, they suddenly start looking average

Cr7 needs good players to play with abi.. I guess the portugese team is littered with a lot of 'em..

Anyways, this will be the last time I respond to any of ur mentions sha, cuz I don't really have time for this kinda argument

bayelsaowei:
what efforts do you want messi to put in further...when you see his stats you will see he has or had put in so much effort in the front end..what do you think messis energy level is towards the end of a season after delivering astronomical amounts of assists and still outscoring his team mates in all competition? Where would he have the strength and vigor to complete the season?

Watch that match against bayern..messi was fagged out completely...depleted..

Whats the effect of bleeding when you still have a basket midfield and leaky defense..its wasted effort..except messi just wants to score for his own personal achievement ...

If you watch the last finals madrid played against liverpool, when ronaldos efforts weren't forthcoming bale carried the show...delivered with 2 hot goals and saved the day..team work..ronaldo doesn't deliver all the time same as messi..what then differentiates them is how much support they get from their team mates..

Messi has made numerous promises in winning a match and delivered as much as ronaldo has..so I don't see any need for the promise and fail comparison..

The problem facing messi at barca was the same problem facing cr7 at juve.. but that did not stop him from having a good game against lyon..

you still dont get the point, do you?? Nobody is asking messi to produce extraordinary performance everytime, but rather he needs to show up when it matters the most.. r.madrid vs liverpool.. when bale came on, he produced some moments of magic.. but was there anytime in the game when madrid was losing and needed cr7 magic?? nope....

Fact is, messi usually plays well when the team plays well, unlike cr7..... thats the reason why cr7 can walk into any team in this world(even a relegation-threatened team) and he will still perform, unlike messi... even diego simone(an argentine) said something similar to above statement

Anyways sha, I am not here to talk about team/individual performances.. all I'm saying is that anytime cr7 promises something, he always deliver, if you dont have any proof that suggest otherwise, then I dont think you deserve another response from me

Have a nice day Sir..

bayelsaowei:
the issue here is about winning a round and not scoring individual goals and still losing a match..

Messi played well in the first leg against Liverpool what stopped the other players from playing well in the second leg? Are they not paid salaries...

Messi had scored through out that season and provided the highest assist .. what else can a player do to support a team?

Ronaldo will score for juventus but still end up losing..of what use was his scoring if not for his own personal achievement??

Can you get the drift?

You're making me laugh... I'm not saying messi should score/assist goals every game, but rather he needs to at least put in an effort when things are going wrong... Messi gives up far too easily.. and as his team mates, when you see your captain and talisman giving up, you lose all hope in producing a miracle

Anyways sha, I am not here to argue whether messi turns up when needed or not.. all I said was that when cr7 makes a promise, he always deliver... if you dont have any evidence that proves this statement to be wrong, then I think at this junction, I rest my case

bayelsaowei:
your brain must have forgotten that messi delivered barca at home against Liverpool and many other games..

Ronaldo was bought to win the CL back to back for juve ..how far? Shey no modric, bale , cavajal, marcelo to deliver the best of passes to am?

You yap like ronalod plays the 11 in a team..

You need to go and sleep and wake up..only teams win trophies and not individual players..

Does that sink in?

Stop showing your stupidity everywhere oga

Did Juve buy cr7 to help them win the ucl? Yes, they did.. but last time I checked he still has two years on his contract to achieve that

Plus, since cr7 came to juve.. this is the first time he's coming out to say he is gonna make sure he wins the trophy with juve.. why is this so hard for you to understand bro..

You even brought modric n bale into the conversation, alright tell me, was bale a man utd player when cr7 won his first ucl trophy?? And please ehnn, name one single trophy that messi has been able to win outside spain without neymar, xavi n iniesta by his side..

Messi played well in the first leg against Liverpool, but when his team needed him most during the second leg, he disappeared.. he didnt even put in any effort sef... He was just busy strolling round the field like a cry baby who just lost his toys.. same thing he did against bayern,juve,roma,etc

But then check out cr7, even if his team loses, you can never fault him for not trying.. replace messi with cr7 in that barca team against bayern, even though his team might lose heavily, I can bet that cr7 would have scored a couple of goals that night

And please ehnn, stop twisting the things I say, you hear


Whenever cr7 makes a promise, he always deliver.. please if you dont any proof that suggest otherwise, dont quote me again abeg

bayelsaowei:
and 2 seasons ago did cr7 win the CL? Youre just a joke..after winning athletico Madrid he went missing against ajax..

Just go and sleep somewhere with your cr7 bragging talks..

You talk like a child..

I thought you wanted to say ronaldo promised a team CL and delivered it all by himself..do you know how many matches messi has won for barca?

Abeg go sleep...i think say i dey talk with better person sef..even players like bale have made promises on a pitch and delivered..same as davies alphonsos of bayern Munich..

Cr7 went missing against ajax?? It will interest you to know that he scored in both games against ajax, apart from losing possession that lead to the 6th goal, tell me what your goat did against bayern,tell me what he did against liverpool in the 4-0 mauling two years ago, or what he did against juve 3 years ago (3-0), or better still what he did against roma 4 years ago(3-0) or athletico madrid 5 years ago(2-0)

Learn to read before jumping unto other people's mentions, okay?

At the beginning of last season, messi said he would make sure the ucl comes to camp nou.. and he failed

Since cr7 came to juve, this is the FIRST TIME he's saying he would make sure juve conquers europe..why dont you wait till the end of the season to see if he delivers or not

Learn to read and understand, Oga.. abeg, e dey help sometimes

bayelsaowei:
cr7 doesn't deliver , the team he plays with delivers..

You guys are such a huge joke..

So what did cr7 deliver for juventus that they have not been delivering as a team before he joined..

Messi shouldn't have made such statements because no player I repeat no one player can win trophies for a team..its a collective effort..i guess ronaldo is really feeling the impact of not playing with prolific team mates like the ones he had in real madrid..

Ronaldo makes promises and delivers gibberish..like he is some god that knows when to win a trophy or not..

Mtsheew..

Oga, shut up if you have nothing to say

Just because messi doesn't deliver on his promises does not mean cr7 is like him..

Two seasons ago, cr7 promised a magical night against athletico madrid and said he would score a hat trick.. and he did just that..

Winning is a team effort but having certain players in your team gives you a better chance of winning.. just look at how Ibra is transforming ac milan

Anyways sha, I don't have time to be arguing with you, just wait till the end of next season, lets see if cr7 will lift the ucl or not..

Thank you, and have a nice day..

bayelsaowei:
like winning the champions league for juventus abi? Nonsense

I usually don't respond to this kind of mention.. but I will make an exception this one time

Firstly, cr7 signed a 4years contract with juve, meaning he still has 2 years to win the ucl.. afterall, your goat have not won the ucl for about half a decade now, so why bother disturbing cr7 after 2 years??..

Secondly, like I said earlier, when cr7 says he is gonna do something, he always delivers..
At the beginning of last season, Messi came out to say he is gonna make sure the ucl return to camp nou.. but of course he failed
At the beginning of last season, cr7 never mentioned anything about winning the ucl, infact, since he arrived in Italy, this is the first time he is coming out to say that juve is gonna conquer europe.... so bro, why don't you wait till the end of next season before posting the rubbish you posted earlier

The greatest of all times

One thing I like about this guy is that whenever he says he's gonna do something, he ends up doing it, unlike the perennial bottler

The UCL trophy is coming to the allianz stadium next season, the GOAT has spoken and there's nothing any mere mortal can do about it... Forza Juve!!

Meanwhile I hope Messi comes to the epl, if the 'English' Jesse Lingard might leave manchester next season, then I don't mind having the 'Argentine' Jesse Lingard replacing him

Edopesin:
Forward
Pulisic
Werner
Ziyech

Midfield
Mount
Kante
Harvertz

Defence
Chilwell
Silva
Zouma
Azipilicuta

We are set

You forget to add one thing

Goal keeper
Kepa Arrizabalaga

You are set to concede another 50 goals again

arukwe123:
how? By scoring penalties or tapins

If penalties were easy, Messi would have an international trophy with argentina, while chelsea would not have won the champions league(messi missed the penalty that would have sent chelsea home in the semi final)

If tap ins were easy, maybe Lyon might not have defeated Man City while Nigeria would have defeated south Korea in the 2010 world cup

arukwe123:
like he won against Lyon and Ajax

But juve won lyon na(thanks to cr7 btw).. they were only eliminated on away goals..

Besides cr7 scored two against ajax and two against lyon despite not qualifying.. tell me what your goat did against bayern

chichijas:
Messi anywhere you go i'm with you.



26 goals against EPL top six teams in 34 appearance..

imagine wetin go happen when he meet Fulham, Westham, Watford and co.

Playing against epl teams in europe and playing in epl is different bro... the likes of shevchenko and falcao destroyed English teams in europe but they flopped badly when they came to epl...

Besides nor be by scoring against big teams oo, if it was so, rashford would have been the highest goalscorer in epl last season.. most of his goals last season came against the big clubs.. Afterall the same watford that you mentioned last season was the first epl team to beat Liverpool last season, succeeding where the likes of man utd, man city, chelsea failed

Pimpmaride:
My guy wan use shame open hotel.. I'm sure he will lodge in one of hotel to hide himself from the public

Chest beater Failurenaldo

After them comot am for champion league

Failurenaldo..


Messi is chilling, he doesn't shout but he is the best.


Nobody should quote mi.. Or mention me..

I repeat nobody shud quote mi

If you dare quote mi, it means u r deaf.. Pls dont quote mi

Failurenaldo?? He exited the ucl with his pride intact after scoring two goals against lyon... apart from losing possession that led to the 6th goal, tell me what the Argentine midget did against bayern

I 8 2 say this, but Messi is a failure and cr7 should have even built the stadium in Spain so that messi can hide after the embarrassment he will receive at the end of next season

This post is very funny... Op, if you want to lie, at least try speak better English and use correct spellings and punctuations

pretyval:
Like I said bro, have a blessed week. Stick to what you know

Have a blessed week too boss... and please stay away from goal.com

pretyval:
You showered praises and ended with another praises..... Bros abeg have a blessed week. Fernandez good but make him wait for him turn.... There are better midfielders in the EPL.
Them plenty.

If I pour the kind of things when dey my mind out here bros, I nor sure whether any of us go comot here

congrats to de bruyne, but fernades will be coming for the award next year... abeg tell me what is wrong with this statement...

And please ehnn, list the other better midfielders you're talking about...

After fernandes joined man utd,he won two epl player of the month award(out of a possible three), all these better players you are talking about, where dem go when e dey win am??

Even if there are other better midfielders, does that mean that fernandes is not allowed to win... Henderson that won the FWA player of the year, is he better than de bruyne?? when modric won the ballon dor, was he better than de bruyne?? by your way of reasoning, it means if they were to award the ballon dor this year, then lewa would miss out because the likes of messi, cr7 are better than him

pretyval:
Lmao, an award was given to a far deserving footballer, you use style carry sentiment enter the matter. One free kick and like you said one long range EFFORT.... Effort and goal na d same thing... I dont need to read goal dot come cos I watch every football game... Even Steven Gerald said it that the only time you see Fernandez in a game is when he is standing to take a PK, Pogba by every standards has more influence on games. The funny thing is that I like Bruno,
I dey tackle you because all you could have said was congratulations to Kevin not talking about a season wey Neva come.....

Actually, fernandez 'scored' the long range 'effort' against everton... the fact that you dont know this simply proves me right that all you do is check up match reports on goal.com instead of watching an actual game

Pogba has more influence on games than fernades? hahahahaha, you see what goal.com have done to you... I doubt if you have ever seen fernades play before

And also, the free kick and the goal from long range are not the only ones fernandes has scored from open play since he came to man utd... of course I don't expect you to know this because of goal.com

First, you brought up the assist talk, I tackled you there.. then you brought up the 12 penalties talk, again, I tackled you.. Why all this hatred towards one player, e steal your babe??

Next time learn to read well before jumping onto other people's mention, bcuz if you did, you would have seen where I showered praises on kevin de bruyne, as well as congratulate him

Lastly, pls can you provide me a link to the video where Gerald made that statement..I would like to see for myself

Hahahahahaha... Tecno on the beat

My Aba brothers nor go ever disappoint.. if you know, you know

pretyval:
12 Penalties ....

So the free kick he scored against Bournemouth was a penalty abi? The long range effort against everton was also a penalty right?

Anyways, I am not too surprised at this post sha.. this is the kind of comment you make when you read all your match reports from goal.com instead of watching an actual football match

FrankBass281:
was it you his fanboys that said he is Mr champions league that he could win the cl with primary 6 boys
and he said he was going for a new challenge(and juventus only challenge is to win the cl),great players need their teammates to step up in games if not all their effort will be in vain.and you know he can't win d cl with this juve team same with messi.
do you know that dembele,giroud,mandanda,thauvin have all won the wc but they had little to no impact in the tournament but messi has won up to four best player of the tournament (even without winning the tournament,this should tell you something),when I argue about players I don't talk about trophies I talk about individual brilliance because a goal keeper having a bad day can let his teammates down.
Luis figo,maldini,Cruyff, eusebio,baggio,puskas didn't win any international trophy but are still regarded as greats of the game

Hahahaahahaha, I asked you to list players that are considered as the 'greatest of all times' not 'great football players'.. you could have listed okocha na, after all he too was a great player

No need to sugercoat anything bros, when you consider the caliber of players Messi has played with in Argentina, then its safe to say he's a failure with his national side if he fails to win a trophy with them

pretyval:
Fernandez will come close when he starts creating more assists and not scoring from 6yards

What is this one even saying sef.. Fernandes has 12 goals and 10 ASSISTS since he joined man utd

FrankBass281:
oga what about the titles he won without them?the league,copa del ray and numerous individual medal.should I remind you again that he won the ballon d'or last year for being the best player in the world.He won that without iniesta,xavi and neymar.and you said that all his achievements is because of iniesta and xavi.I have nothing else to say
messi doesn't need to prove himself elsewhere or win shit with Argentina (he is a world cup finalist and he has a golden ball medal).please clear road for the 6x ballon d'or winner

Thats why Messi will always remain a much more inferior player to cr7... since cr7 came to juve, he's won most of the trophies in italy yet you messi fanboys will continue to bash him just because he's yet to win the ucl, but somehow its okay for messi not to win the ucl

Messi doesn't need to do shit for Argentina?.. I never expected this kind of statement from you, I swear.. so you think Messi that said he would exchange all his ballon d'or awards for an international trophy is a fool abi
Wait, lemme ask.. apart from Messi, can you tell me a single player generally regarded as the greatest of all time not to have won any trophy with their country?

Okay bros, lets assume you have an elder brother, how would you feel if he owns over 30 apartments overseas while you and the rest of ur family members are living in a rented apartment in Nigeria??

Last last, without neymar, xavi and iniesta, Messi can't win anything outside spain.. simple
No wonder he has been crying for barca to resign neymar

nairatag:
I compared their penalty record.

If Penandez took more then why compare him to Ronaldo or Messi. Ronaldo took 151 which is more than *5 of Penandez

I never compared Fernandes' record to those players either, I only said he has stats that the likes of cr7 would be jealous of.. simple

Anyways, I don't really have time for this kind of argument, all I know is that fernandes is a good player and he will challenge for the best player award next year.. simple

FrankBass281:
what do you mean by outside spain?so the trophies he has own in spain are stainless cups abi?has he won trophies after they left? yes! has he won individual medals? yes! has he broken records? yes!

Oga, tell messi to win the ucl without those guys.. tell him to win a trophy with argentina where those players are not his team mate... Tell him to leave spain to another country, let us see how he will fare.. simple..

In 2015, neymar helped barca to recover from a 4-0 first leg loss to progress 6-5 on aggregate.. but ever since he left, all Messi has managed to do is squander huge first leg victory.. roma, liverpool, etc.. I wonder what package he has in store for us next year

nairatag:
Maybe you need to look at Jorginho penalty record. I won't argue much coz next season is almost here

Jorginho has scored 19 out of 20, I think, which is also good.. but fernandez have taken more plus I'm actually not here to talk about penalties, I just wanted to correct you when you said penandez cuz there's no one who doesn't take penalties, just because he doesn't miss does not he need penalties to score goals..

But wait oo, penalties aside, I hope you are indirectly comparing jorginho to fernandez oo

This topic suppose make frontpage, I swear..

Your spelling is very funny.. kelvine de brunu... Hahahahah

Thanks for making me laugh op

The fact that this is the first time a player from man city is winning this award despite dominating the best part of the last decade in epl is nothing but a mystery

I'm a man utd fan but I gotta admit that this award is the least de bryune deserves.. He's committed, hardworking, skillful and a joy to watch on the field... infact he's everything I wished paul pogba would be when we signed him

Kudos to De Bruyne, although the portugese magnifico(bruno fernanadez) will be coming for this award next season

Whobedatte:
Trophies--- Team
Awards /accolades --- Individual
So when making comparison between two players, never use 'Team ' achievements.
You get??

Josep Bican is the highest goalscorer in football history, but no one can rate him above pele because of his lack of trophies.. infact he's relatively unknown sef

That means even if a player likes, let him score and assist 100 goals every year, win all the possible individual awards, he is nothing if he does not win anything with his team

Abi you think Messi that said he would give all his ballon d'or just to win a trophy with argentina is a fool abi..

And also, I'm not here to argue who is better between Messi and cr7, but rather I only want to know how many trophies Messi has won without neymar, iniesta and xavi

Lastly, I already gave one of your fellow Messi fanboy a comprehensive lecture on this Messi individual award issue, and so I don't really have the energy to be repeating myself, so don't be annoyed if I choose not to reply any of ur upcoming mentions.. thank youu