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SIRRITE:
See mu-mu talk, people say spain is easy, but the so called players from hard league will come to the spain they cannot score up to 5goals go ask harzad what he is seeing in the easy league spain now

Actually I think it would be better to ask cr7, suarez, bale, falcao, etc if la liga is easy or not

Bossman25:
Yes, Yet Messi scored 91 goals in a calender year.
See let Pendu go and contend with Immobile for best striker in Italy.....I dey wait for final match day.....

At least cr7 wont finish this season trophyless

Whobedatte:
If the league was so easy to score , how come Aguero never made headline as top scorer or Fernando Torres ?
How come the league has produced the most champions league, Europa league winners?
Most balon dor winners?
The EPL is just an overrated piece of shit .
Just hype and nothing more

How old was Aguero and Torres when they played on spain?? infact did you even know aguero when he played in spain??

Only a fool would call the epl overrated..

Bossman25:
In your dreams
You think Laliga dey dash player anyhow penalty abii....Pendu scoring 15 penalty kicks....out of 31goals.....is that one a striker.....

Actually cr7 has scored 12 penalties, not 15...

and also, in 2012, Messi scored 17 goals from the penalty spot, even cr7 is yet to break that record, so calm down bro

paulolee:
another joker....he was once in the lower league called la liga and messi won that award more than him....
so seria a that juve have won straight 9 times and no team from that side have won the ucl in the last 10yrs is now bigger than la liga because of cr7 abi??
incase u dnt kno, if ur cr7 score 32 goals in spain, messi go score 41 because anything cr7 can do, messi would do better e.g the ballon d or and the European golden boots won...

Anything cr7 can do, Messi would do better??

Hmmm... I wonder what Argentina fans would have to say about this??

Baba4kinatu:
How old was this guy fabio quagliarella when he outscored ronaldo in a mediocre team with no penalties... go on,

Did Quadliarella score up to 30 goals last season?

oyatainer:
La liga always produce the best unlike premier league where no entity like Herderson is the best player. Go and ask Hazard, he will tell you better. Ask Higuain about the competition in Spain and Seria A. He scored the highest in Italy ever and not reckon with in Spain. They are too docile in Seria A, not pacy like la liga. Là liga has been producing the European Golden Boot winners since 2008. Even in Champions league excepts may be twice that they didn't win in 13 years. What is now your point?

La liga has been producing the european golden boot winner because the league is way too easy...
No matter how good you are or the team you play for, you would be really lucky if you score more than 25goals per season in the epl... The likes of kane, vardy would score 40goals per season if they were playing in la liga

Angelfrost:
You should have played for a draw then... That's what's more likely in this fixture.

Leicester is still likely to pull an upset. Especially with this inexperienced and naive Ole of a coach (Pun unintended).

It's easy to say Chelsea can't lose to Wolves, but United beating Leicester is not that simple to call. God help them today. Heading back to Europa would be very amusing!!!

Analyst of the year, I hail thee.. it would interest you to know that this same naive coach have already recorded a win against Leicester this season... yeah, man utd have not really been playing well for like 2/3 games now, but its mainly due to fatigue, and guess what? some of these Leicester players are also suffering from injury and fatigue... Leicester need to win this game, which means they are gonna attack, and if they do that, they will simply be playing themselves into trouble cuz they did suffer on the counter attack just like against Tottenham in their last match and I dont need to remind you that utd have one of the best counterattacking team atm which is one of the reason why Ole usually wins against the big teams

And point of correction, its not easy to say chelsea would beat wolves, okay?? because those guys are really good, I'm sure even chelsea would have preferred to be playing Leicester than wolves atm

Nbotee:
How many times did Ronaldo win it while he was in Spain?? Scoring 25 goals and providing 20 assists despite Barca having a poor season.. He's d first player in History to score over 20 and assist over 20 in d same season

Messi is the first player to score and assist over 20 goals in a season?? wow, I wonder what Thierry Henry would have to say about this

Techiekingee:
Lol, ok I'm wrong and u're right..... Still,
Who was the best player of year 2010? Who was the best player of year 2018?
I await ur answer before I proceed

Oga, bye bye... I'm tired
See you on the next messi/ronaldo thread
#respect

Techiekingee:
Lol, see this man o.....av u forgotten that it was ur false stats that brought me here?

Don't argue with me......
First off, Balon d'Or 2018 was for players performances of 2017-2018 seasons likewise ballon d'Or 2010 was for performances of 2009-2010 seasons... everyone knows this.....unless you don't know.

In August 2017, real Madrid beat man Utd 2-1 to win the UEFA super cup...

And also, that same August 2017, Real Madrid beat Barcelona 5-1 on aggregate to win the supercopa de españa....Now u know..

Now, over to Inter Milan, August 2009, inter milan lost the supercopa italiana to lazio 2-1...season 2009-2010

But won the 2010 supercoppa italiana in august 2010 after defeating Roma 3-1....
But that was for another season entirely....it was for the 2010-2011 season and didn't count as a point for sneidjer.....I guess u never knew,.....now u know.....

Do you need picture evidence too??...

Hahahahahaha... Ballon d'or are awarded to players based on their performance in the 'previous calender year' not the previous season.....

Always get your facts right next time before jumping into an argument

Techiekingee:
I will go o....But I will keep coming back if u keep dropping wrong stats and infos just to favour ur goat

Wrong stats?? funny you mentioned that bro

anyways, sneijder won all the club competition he participated in that year, I dont know where you got your info from... and also, modric did not win uefa super cup nor supercopa de espana like you are claiming..

Have a nice day bro, one love

Techiekingee:
"in 2018.. won the ucl, scored 44 goals in 43 club matches and 4 goals in the world cup"

U're still not getting it.....
In this life, nobody recognizes u if u re second or third....likewise football....

As long as Ronaldo wasn't the best scorer, best player or best assister, he can't be recognised....The four goals he scored in the world cup, wat did he use it to achieve??.....he had only one good match in the world cup... it's just like saying Harry kane should av been a top 5 contender for the balon d'Or because he was world cup top scorer and scored 41 goals in 48 apps.... I keep telling u, It's not always about the goals

Simple,
Messi's stats was the best in 2010... unarguably

Was Ronaldo's the best in 2018??....


Please, Sneidjer didn't win the supercoppa Italia..
........... Sneidjer won 3 trophies in club level...UCL, serie A and copa copa Italia...

And U think Modric won just the UCL in 2018??...Modric won the UEFA super cup, club world cup, UCL, supercopa de España.

And u are the same person who said forwards are judged by goals and assists, not midfielders.....why then are u judging Modric and Sneidjer by goals and assists...
Sneidjer had more goals and assists than Modric... yet, he cudn't win d world cup golden ball.....

I'm still telling u, It's not abt goals and assists...being impactful in a team goes beyond goals and assists....

There are alot of times where Messi doesn't score or assist in a match but still comes out as man of the match....can u say thesame of Ronaldo??

Any match Ronaldo doesnt score, he is always seen as the flop of the match by his rating.

Oga, go and sleep abeg... carry your arguments and go

Techiekingee:
I knew u wud later fall ur own hand by saying that Ronaldo deserved the balon d'Or over Modric...
Oya let me explain to u

Individual performance wise, Ronaldo wasn't the best....was he the top scorer in europe??....No
............was he the top scorer in laliga??......No
...........he was the top scorer only in UCL in which both he and Modric contributed and both lifted the trophy....

Was he the best player in the world cup......No....Modric was

Yet u want him to reap wer he didn't sow...lol

U said it urself, he won 2013 balon d'Or by being the best individually....2018, was he the best individually??

And u also claim Messi won the balon d'Or 2010 under similar circumstances...ok listen
2010, Messi was Europe top scorer, La liga top scorer, champions League top scorer....


Yes Sneidjer won the UCL, but messi also got to the semis and was also top scorer...

The only chance for sneidjer to win the balon d'Or over messi was to either win the world cup or world cup best player.....but did he win either of them??

ronaldo in 2018.. won the ucl, scored 44 goals in 43 club matches and 4 goals in the world cup

messi in 2010.. won la liga, scored 47 goals in 53 club matches and 0 goals in the world cup

sneijder in 2010.. won all 4 club trophies(serie a , ucl, coppa italia, supercopa italia), got to the final of the wc, scored more goals and had more assists than modric

modric in 2018.. won the ucl and got to the final of the world

I'm not saying modric did not deserve the ballon dor but rather I hate double standards, for messi to have won the ballon dor with those stats, then cr7 should also have won.. and for modric to win the award with those stats, then sneijder should also have won.. simple

Techiekingee:
So, it's true.... You've already counted the next 3 serie A trophies as juventus'.....wat a joke

boss, na wa for you oo..
you said if messi does not win anything for the next three seasons, he would still have more trophies than cr7.. so I simply asked a question, that what would happen if what you said came to pass and ronaldo won the serie a throughout those seasons?? And bro, unlike you, I have full belief in cr7 to win any competition he participates in.. barca is still in the ucl and yet you assumed that messi would end the season without a trophy.. have a little faith bro

Moura7:
I'm not sugarcoating anything, ok pls tell me how Messi didn't deserve that award. Pull up the stats of that competition and show. Also tell me how Modric didn't deserve the 2018 ballond'or too

Messi was not the highest goal scorer in that competition... messi missed a penalty and did not win the trophy.. yet you think he deserved the award... messi played well in that tournament, no doubt, but so did sanchez and his chile team mate...

I laughed really hard when you suggested that messi was not given the award because he 'reportedly' turned down the previous one, but yet it was okay to give him the fair play award

Tell me what modric did in 2018 that sneijder did not do and exceed in 2010

Techiekingee:
Lol, i thought u wer clueless and ran away...

And wer did u see that Ronaldo has 31 trophies... Who dash am....av always told u to make the right findings...or are u also counting friendly cups??

I advise u, always use Wikipedia or whoscore.... those guys are reputable or better still watch football as a fan, not as a Ronaldo asslicker..

Ronaldo has 29 trophies....and please name the four serie A trophies that he has won this season??...are u sure u watch football

He has lost one trophy already...his only certain trophy for now is the serie A trophy..... it's obvious u are already counting his chickens before they hatch....
This shows aw weak serie A is....if their fans can count trophies before winning them.....

This is the same serie A Ronaldo fans claim he went to for a new challenge...

The pic attached to this post is from Wikipedia, read carefully and you will see how many trophies cr7 and messi have..

About the four serie a, I was just replying to your statement where you said 'even if messi does not win any trophy for three years, he would still have more trophies than cr7'... so if that was the case, and cr7 won the serie a this season and three more in each of those seasons that you mentioned, who would have more trophies??

Moura7:
Would you give someone something again after he snubbed the first one you gave him before?......pls be truthful. And pls I'll like to know how Messi didn't deserve the 2014 golden ball and tell how it's different from Ronaldo's ballondor in 2013

Oga, stop sugarcoating anything, messi did not deserve the award that was given to sanchez

ronaldo won the 2013 ballon d'or because of his 'individual performance'( he scored 60+ goals that year), same way messi won the ballon dor last year because of his individual performance....

If there's any thing that needs explaining... I think its the reason why cr7 lost the ballon dor to modric while messi won the same ballon dor over sneijder despite being under similar circumstances

Techiekingee:
Lol, it's not a new thing.....even if Messi goes trophyless for 3 more seasons, Ur goat wud still not av as much trophy as he has

Oya clap for yourself, you have said something very funny...

Messi has won 34 trophies compared to cr7 31.. 4 serie A trophies this season and 3 more seasons is enough to surpass messi...

Moura7:
Tell him, tell him....I hope you know that national trophies are won by a team and not an individual.
It's an award given to a team and not a single player. Now these tournaments also have awards for individuals that were really outstanding in that tournament of which the golden ball is the highest of these individual honours. Now Messi has four due to the recognition of his individual brilliance in these tournaments despite his team not winning any of the team trophies. Ronaldo and Portugal have won some of these trophies but he hasn't won any golden ball even in the tournaments his team won..and in one case sef his teammate was picked over him. Messi might not have been that effective in the knockout stages of the 2014 WC but we all know that that Argentine team wouldn't have been there without Messi. Also before you advance to the KO you have to pass the groupstages which Messi dragged his team through, the same groupstages I'm not sure Portugal qualified from....You said he was compensated with a golden ball in the Copa 2015 which I'm very sure you didn't watch at all because if you did then you'd have seen Messi's brilliance in that tournament, even in the final, dude was the only Argentine that scored his PK in the shootout, the rest missed all....now even in the Copa 2016 there was no other outstanding player there than Messi, he was given the golden ball again because he snubbed the one he was given in 2015

Alexis sanchez won the best player award in 2016, not messi... no outstanding player?? eduardo vargas was the highest goal scorer with 6 goals and he also won the trophy, plus those chile guys were really good... your dear old messi even missed a penalty in the shootout, the first penalty sef, baba was leading by example...

Infact the only senior individual international award messi has with argentina is the controversial 'consolation prize' 2014 WC golden ball

I feel bad for all these Messi fanboys right now.. you guys must be in severe pain right now knowing that there is a huge possibility thar your GOAT might finish the season without a single trophy....

tfash96:
Abeg baba forget that level I can bet my balls on it Portugal can't beat Mexico or Paraguay.. To hell with FIFA ranking jare.. Because you're in number 1 in FIFA ranking I'm number 25 does that make my country an easy prey for your team.. How do you think football like this? U just started watching ball.. Which flop are you saying jare just because of a trophy... So because of ucl Buffon can't be listed among Juve legends or what are you saying yi

I can also bet my balls on it that argentina cant beat switzerland, netherlands, Croatia and the likes

I never said messi is a flop but rather I said he's an INTERNATIONAL FLOP because he doesn't have a single trophy for his country... buffon is a club legend, no doubt, but when they are talking about legends in UCL, you wont hear buffon's name unless you're talking about number of appearance.. infact you wont hear names like de lima nor ibra because they never won the trophy... same way you will never hear anyone mention cr7 and messi as legends in the fifa world cup despite being among the best ever

Techiekingee:
Lol, dis guy u no wan gree... I'll keep giving u stats till u calm down..

Zidane, how come he won world cup golden ball in 2005 even afta losing d final??...tell me o...was it also a consolation prize for zidane??...

And pls explain to me, wat are midfielders judged by wen they give them the awards??...since forwards are judged by goals and assists

Ok, u said Messi is a forward and shud be judged based on his goals and assists.... it's obvious u didn't watch the world cup...

Semi finals, Messi setup di maria for the goal..
Quarter final, Messi orchestrated the early goal...

I know u'l doubt...the pictures below wil help u clear ur doubts..

"wait oo, are you seriously comparing messi to those guys in terms of international football??"

Yes I am...Messi's record for Argentina will take years before it's broken...

Just accept, y'all Ronaldo fans are pained that he has never won an international competition award and keep gving silly excuses for his misfortune...

How can u say that competition awards are consolation prizes...guy, don't say it outside o...

Pls, I'm tired of arguing with you, stay off my mention till messi wins an international trophy for Argentina

Techiekingee:
Oga listen, Messi said he'd trade his balon d'Ors for a world cup trophy....not just any international trophy ..
And last i checked, Ronaldo has never seen a world cup final.

"I said copa america is less difficult to win than euros, you disagreed, so I asked you to pick ten good teams in copa america"

First offs, how many teams are in Conmebol?.... 12 teams only unless outsiders are invited...still, there are never more than 16 teams..out of those 16, ders Brazil, Uruguay, Colombia, Mexico, chile, peru, Ecuador, Paraguay, Venezuela, Ecuador....how easy is it to score against these teams??

Now, lets look at euro
55 teams play a qualifier, and 24 teams qualify ..
Out of those 55 are Faroe Islands, san marino, Andorra, Liechtenstein, Azerbaijan, Kazakhstan, Czechia, Bosnia, Malta, Montenegro, Albania, latvia. Check FIFA Rankings for the position of these teams

Common sense shud tell us dat the more the teams, the more the goals

Do I also need to remind u dat the above teams are Ronaldo's favourites for scoring hattricks....
So, wen I tell u scoring in euro is easier than Conmebol, don't argue with me.

I shouldn't really be responding to this post, I swear

All those european teams you mentioned, tell me which one of them that played in the last euros.. you only see those teams during qualifiers and not euros itself..

How can you really compare copa to euros sef in terms of difficulty.. first, you play lesser matches to win copa america compared to euros... and secondly the top teams in copa are brazil, chile, uruguay and argentina.. since you started watching football, tell me how many teams outside these four to have won copa america

Infact, check fifa rankings and tell me how many american teams you would see in the top 30..

When it comes to euros, I can list like 15 different teams that are favourites to win the competition and portugal would not be among them...

Techiekingee:
U see aw u keep contradicting urself ..
Messi didn't score in the knockouts.....but Modric who u claim was consistent didn't score in the knockouts too....wer exactly are u driving at... I've pointed it out to u dat it's not always about the goals.....

Now u claim competition awards are consolation prizes just because Ronaldo has never won one....
So, it was consolation prize for zidane, maradonna, pele, Ronaldo de lima, etc... because these people all won the competitions and still collected the best player of the competition awards

Modric is a midfielder, and you dont judge players like them based on goals, unlike messi who is a forward and should be judged based on his goals and assists..

unlike messi,,, zidane, de lima, pele n maradona all won the wc when they won the best player of the tournament and they performed consistently throughout the tournament.. you dont give consolation prizes to winners na..

but wait oo, are you seriously comparing messi to those guys in terms of international football??

tfash96:
Highest holder in number of ballon d'or a flop.. I'm rolling on the floor.. Tell me that's a slip of hand while you're typing.. Dani Alves is better than Ronaldo then if that's the case... You're judging about popularity of a nation in Copa America.. If I bring out common Paraguay or Mexico sef.. Pls tell me how many teams that can beat any of these two in world cup from Africa especially in k/o stage... Any of these two countries sef your Portugal shouldn't dare them o.. We all know how he dragged with Iran and Morocco in last wc the 1 his fans considered as his best world cup so far

6 ballon d'or does not save messi from being a flop for his country.. so you think messi that said he would exchange all his ballon d'or for a trophy with argentina is a fool abi

I said copa america is less difficult to win than euros, you disagreed, so I asked you to pick ten good teams in copa america.. instead of you to list out teams, you are here saying trash... is it not the same copa america where they invite teams from other continent(eg qatar from asia) just to complete the number of teams in the comp

you even mentioned Paraguay n mexico.. what's their respective position on fifa rankings right now.. and tell me how many wc trophies they have.. oga if you have nothing to say, take a chill pill and rest.. goodnight

tfash96:
Like I said seriousness is important in the team.. Look at how Messy Suarez and Coutinho was last season @ Anfield.. Even if he's not saying Neymar he needs good player beside Him.. Age is no longer by his side anymore.... And u saying Neymar.. Pls where's Neymar without Messi in world rn.. Tell me if he's still relevant like before

Where's Neymar without messi?? I have no idea bro, but I'm sure he isn't at his club president's office beginning him to sign messi so psg would be able to compete in europe

tfash96:
I am not disagreeing the fact that Barcelona drew against Napoli. No matter how good Messi can be he can never play it all.. He can never be striking n be keeping at the same time.. Players need each other individually to achieve great goal/aim......If Ronaldo does do everything on his own.. Y couldn't he give his side 3 points against common Sassuolo

I never said ronaldo could do everything himself, but rather it was one of you Pessi fanboys who said Pessi can destroy teams apart without help from his teammates...

tfash96:
Messi is a forward indeed but go and be checking his heat map in every match before you'll know how he operates. If Messi leaves the whole midfield work to Busquet and Co after Xavi and Iniesta departure. Do you think any creative performance will come out of it or from it? Saying Messi is just a passenger in that wc is funny.... Pls imagine something rn :Remove Messi in that squad and tell me if Argentina would reach where they reached.. If not for him we Nigerians would've wired their asses in Group stage or the best thing for them is to see draw

I don't think you watched Argentina during the k/o stages of the 2014WC.. he wasn't creating much chances and he wasn't even scoring.. their star player during those times was di maria which was one of the reasons why the final was difficult for them because di maria was injured

why do you think maradona criticized the decision to give messi the golden ball

tfash96:
Heen it's now balance..He has international trophy but Messi doesn't have.. Messi has international individual awards but none for him... And pls who lied to u that Copa America is less competitive... Do I need to tell you how Chile disciplined Ur GOAT's team in last confederation and how he's qualified by Uruguay as well in 2018.. He faced what Messi's been facing

List TEN good teams in copa america, then I will take you serious..

Even if messi likes, let him win 100 individual trophy, as long as he does not win a single trophy, he will still remain a flop.. abi you think that messi who said he would exchange all his ballon d'or for a trophy with argentina is a fool abi

Bomboiy:
The international flop has won more individual honors for national team sides than any other active player.

Tell him to win a trophy with argentina first, then I will be willing to listen to you

tfash96:
Guy I hope u don't argue football outside or else you will just be beaten to death with the way you argue.. He needs Neymar n Xavi and Iniesta to shine my foot.. It's after they all left he won the 6th ballon d'or under Unserious Valverde for that matter and laureus award the 1st time it would come to football world . You should be telling that to your pepper soup goat that grabbed Dubai d'or since there's no Marcelo and co to baby feed him

Tell him to win the UCL again na, let me see if he can without neymar.. why do you he's pressuring the barca board into resigning neymar

I can remember Neymar's last season at barca, Neymar was the star player dat night when they won PSG 6-1 but yet all the praises went to Messi, which was one of the reasons why neymar left because it was clear that he was always gonna be second best to messi at barca