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So with all these talks about what the future holds for Lionel Messi and where he could end up playing next year.. I have decided to come up with reasons why a move to Man Utd may/may not be beneficial..

REASONS WHY HE COULD MOVE TO MAN UTD

Man Utd's need for a quality right winger
Not since the days of Alex Ferguson has Man utd had a true right winger who has the individual ability to decide games in their favour.. The likes of rashford, lingard, mata, perreira, martial and sanchez have all tried in that position with little/no success.
Man utd's need for a right winger can be best illustrated by their recent pursuit of Jadon Sancho, but with the transfer proving very difficult, why not make a move for the best right winger on the planet?

Man Utd have all the resources to pull off the transfer
Probably every club in the world today would want Messi, but how many could afford having him on their payroll?
Psg could make a move, but they would need to sell one of their superstars to avoid breaking ffp rules.
I doubt if he would be willing to move to Bayern after what happened last thursday, and a move to Juve is unlikely because of 'you know who'
Inter milan has been mooted as a possible destination but that would require him to move on a free transfer and also to take a massive paycut.. A move to Man City would require them to halt their plans to sign new defenders and also to sell one/some of their wingers.
After moving Alexis Sanchez who was their highest earner off their payroll, Man Utd could simply replace him with Messi.

A chance to prove himself in England
One of the greatest football myths is if Messi could win with a team that is not Barcelona, and this transfer would provide all the answers needed.
There's hardly any Man utd fan that is not a fan of Ronaldo, what better way to win them over than to surpass what the Portugese legend did in Manchester.

A chance to preserve his legacy
Barca's recent struggles on the pitch is not surprising and personally I don't think its going to get better unless Bartomeu leaves the club, unfortunately, the general elections does not come up till 2021,so the question is.. Is Messi willing to risk facing further embarassment next season??

A chance to work with one of the world's most exciting sides
Man Utd's trio of Martial, Rashford and Greenwood are probably the best this season, and along with the likes of Fernandez and Pogba, they certainly won't need Messi to win all games by himself, unlike the situation in Barcelona.

REASONS WHY HE SHOULD NOT MOVE TO MAN UTD

He risks destroying his Barcelona legacy
Barca will always be thankful to Messi for all the magical memories down the years, but if he stayed with them during the good times, why move now when the club needs him the most?

Solkjaer's transfer policy
OGS usually prefers young, english players and Messi does not really fit this description.. But then, neither does Odion Ighalo, but that was mainly because they needed cover for the injured Rashford and could not get their preferred targets.

He could disrupt the harmony within Man Utd squad
A team can only be successful when most/all of its player are happy.
A move to Man utd would require the no.10 jersey currently worn by Rashford to be vacated, and the last time that happened was between Martial and Ibrahimovic, and we all know how that played out.
A move to Man Utd would definitely make Messi the best paid player in epl, but the last time such a thing happened was with Alexis Sanchez, and a majority of their players demanded a payrise which does not usually end well.

Thanks for reading.

nairatag:
Exactly. The guy is a joy to watch.

Penandez go suffer next season

Hahahahahahahaha.. I dont think you have actually seen fernandes play bros.. 11 goals and 10 assists since he joined man utd is no fluke my guy, since he came to epl, he has won two epl player of the month award(out of a possible 3).. he's also the highest goalscorer in the europa league this season despite being a midfielder....

forget all this penandes stuff, if penalty was easy, man utd might probably be preparing to play wolves tonight, not sevilla.. and before I forget Fernandes has taken 29 career penalties and have scored 27 of them.. I don't even think he has missed any penalty during the past 3-4years.. these are stats that the likes of messi and cr7 would be jealous of..

De bruyne is a fine player, no doubt.. but if Fernandes can continue like this and maybe even improve, then there's nothing stopping him from winning the best player award come next season

Whobedatte:
FIFA GOLDEN BALL ( WORLD CUP)
U20 GOLDEN BALL ( WORLD CUP)
OLYMPICS MVP ( OLYMPICS)
2 TIME COPA AMERICA MVP.

Please, mention just 1 (ONE) individual award or accolade Ronaldo won while playing for Portugal.
Just one please or you shut up .
Ronaldo was never the best player or won the MVP in any international competition, Eder scored the winning goal for Portugal on the euros , Bernaldo silva was the MVP in the UNL.
These are facts you can't twist no matter what !!!

wait oo, is the mvp award a trophy? is the golden ball award a trophy??

incase you don't know the meaning of trophies outside Spain, let me list them for you.. UCL, uefa super cup, club world cup, copa america and world cup.. now tell me which one Messi has won without neymar, iniesta and xavi..

The fact that this is the first time a player from man city is winning this award despite dominating the best part of the last decade in epl is nothing but a mystery

I'm a man utd fan but I gotta admit that this award is the least de bryune deserves.. He's committed, hardworking, skillful and a joy to watch on the field... infact he's everything I wished paul pogba would be when we signed him

Kudos to de bruyne, although the portugese magnifico(bruno fernanadez) will be coming for this award next season

FrankBass281:
his 40goals and twenty+ assists for the past two seasons is because of xavi and iniesta too?

Tell me a single trophy that messi has won outside spain without xavi, iniesta and neymar by his side?

lordprogress:
Agbero analysis go school you nor gree as you big reach you nor know watin be half a century.

Hahahahaha, for your mind, you don talk better thing

Anyways, I meant to say half a decade, thank you for spotting the error.. goodbye

osaslord500:
He won the ballon dor.

Bros na wa for you.. is ballon dor a club/international trophy?

tesppidd:
No Bale wasn't

But Scholes, Giggs, Rooney, Tevez, Evra, Vidic, Ferdinand were.
Coached by the great Sir Alex Ferguson.

But for 4 years he flopped at Madrid, winning only 1 la liga.

Until Bale came and bailed him out.

How many goals and assists did bale have when madrid won those trophies?

Where was bale when the likes of bayern, psg, wolfsburg, juve and athletico came knocking on madrid's door?

Why has bale not been able to perform those magic since cr7 left?

Agreed, the likes of rooney, giggs, etc were top players but so are the likes of griezmann, suarez, vidal, dembele and even coutinho(on loan).. why has your GOAT not been able to perform with these players.. the only thing he's good at is making his good team mates look like bad players.. infact have you ever wondered why the likes of aguero, banega, di maria, lavezzi, etc who are top players for their club side suddenly became average players when they put on their national jersey.. messi killed their international career same way he's killing the likes of dembele, griezmann, and coutinho

Like I said earlier, messi cant win anything outside spain without iniesta, xavi and neymar.. Period

tesppidd:
Good.

So until he wins it just STFU.

Juve may need to sign out of favour Gareth Bale again because we all remember how Real Madrid signed Ronaldo and continued to fail in the champions league for 4 years until they signed Bale.

Bale then came in and won it for Madrid.

Was bale also a man utd player when cr7 won the trophy in 2008??

Oga, make we bone talk, without neymar, iniesta and xavi, Messi cant win anything outside spain

tesppidd:
So why did Ronaldo run to Juve,?

To win the Champions league or to win 20 consecutive serie a titles?

Ronaldo went to juve to win the ucl, and last time I checked, he still has two more years on his contract, so calm down bro

Afterall the Argentine midget have not won the ucl for like half a century now, so why are you rushing the GOAT??

prodigyhenry:
Ronaldo fans it's up to you to hijack this thread and tell us how this is stupid and that he's a coward and any other useless thing that you can cook up in your head. We Messi fans will be here reading your idiotic bad belle comments. Over to you penaldo fans

Wow, so Pessi fans can be this humble... Interesting

Hahhahahahahahahahaha... Cry me a river bros

Barca and their perennial bottler(Pessi) always find new ways to disgrace themselves every season.. From juventus(3-0) to roma(3-0) to liverpool(4-0) and finally to bayern(8-2) yesterday.. The one that will happen next season will be enough to send Pessi to early retirement

tesppidd:
Without Ronaldo they've been to 2 finals and 1 semi final in then last 5 years.

With Ronaldo they have not crossed the quarter finals.

WTF you talking about lady?


As for Messi he's older and slower and his team is now made of 33 year olds and more.

Without cr7 juve would not have come this far, simple.. incase you dont know, juve have scored 7 goals in knockout stages since cr7's arrival, and all these goals have been scored by cr7...

Agreed juve before cr7 went to 2 finals and one semifinal but you cant compare those teams (pogba, pirlo, vidal) with this current one(matuidi, pjanic, and bentacur)... and besides dont forget in one of those finals and the semi final that mentioned, cr7 taught them a hard lession..

You claim that messi is old, but you are forgetting that cr7 was also 33 years old when he destroyed Bayern

tesppidd:
Ooooh

Now I know where your madness came from.

You kept on saying sweeper sweeper sweeper and I was wondering where you saw sweeper.
So I went back to check my post..

"Dybala plays much much much deeper than Ronaldo."

"Deeper" is the word not "sweeper"

If you went to school you should have realised this typo by the entire sentence...

No wonder he kept saying sweeper..

Lies, that aint no typographical error bro.. You totally replaced one letter(D) with not one but two different letters(SW)..

You that went to school, if you wrote swuhari as the president of Nigeria in an exam, would they pass or fail you?

Okay, lets agree that dybala plays much deeper than cr7, is that the reason why he should have the same number of assist as cr7?? surely having the opportunity to feed a proven goalscorer like cr7 should guarantee him at least 10 assists, don't you think?

[quote author=tesppidd post=92677496][/quote]Oga, shut up there if you have nothing to say

You said dybala plays more as a sweeper, so I want you to explain to me what you mean by a sweeper

I never said I expected dybala to score more goals than cr7 but rather I said I was surprised that he and cr7(who is very selfish according to pessi fans) have the same number of assists

Learn to read well before jumping into my mentions next time, goodnight

tesppidd:
Don't try to be clever by half..

Dybala plays much much much sweeper than Ronaldo.

Simple and short.

Jesus! I'm ashamed of you bros, this your post have proven to me that you know nothing about football..

I would advise you to check up the meaning of 'sweeper in football' before you decide to post rubbish next time.. Goodnight

tesppidd:
Dybala 11 goals and 6 assists

Ronaldo 17 goals and 6 assists (minus penalties)


Football doesn't start and begin with goals and assists.

Well deserved by Dybala.

Did dybala deserve the award? Yes, he did

But this your analysis does not make sense, I swear

Dybala and cr7 are both forwards, and forwards are judged based on goals and assists... With all the talk about dybala being super creative and cr7 selfish, I was surprised to see that they both had the same number of assists

Ustec:
Edin Dzeko : "Me too i played in three Leagues, I scored more than 50 goals in those leagues. Which is Bundesliga, Premier league and Serie A but they won't talk about it because i am not Cristiano Ronaldo or someone else they bow.

But I feel nothing about it, i am Dzeko and am happy with who I am and what I am achieving without being rated for a single thing I do on the field. Some Players they get coverage for even Jumping.

They count the height of how He jumped, how far was the ground, people who never even liked Mathematics classes in their schools, you will find them counting things like how long a certain player hanged on air.

But you will never see them counting how Gareth Bale hanged on air to score a spectacular goal against Liverpool in kiev.

I love Cristiano, but I was shocked to hear that He was a first ever player to score 50+goals in three different leagues. I was like maybe my Goals in those three leagues does not count, as i have done that way before him. But i reminded myself that "hey, you are just Dzeko".

Nobody said cr7 was the first player to score over 50 goals in three different leagues, but rather he was the first to score 50 in epl, la liga and serie a.. the person that posted the info on nairaland only made a mistake with the title

And also, cr7's goal against sampdoria was nothing short of spectacular, the height and the time he spent in the air was awesome... basketball stuff

And also, cr7's overhead kick was better than bale's

Lastly, please can you provide a link to the video where dzeko said all those things, I'd like to see it too

A welcome development... He has played with/against most of the players in the team, so the respect and rapport is gonna be there..

Three things are needed for him to succeed
1. Help cr7 rediscover his goalscoring abilities from freekicks
2. Teach the midfielders how to create goalscoring chances like he did during his time
3. Sign a new defensive midfielder, attacking mildfielder, right back and maybe a new forward

Juve should try and sign pochettino.. or better still try and bring back Conte..

Above all, they need to sign new players, some are either too old(eg bonucci), not good enough (eg danilo) or not just interested (eg higuain)... And they need young players with pace, it is quite sad that a 35years old is the fastest player in their sqaud

maxwell530:
Messi was UCL highest goal scorer last season, any season Barca fail to win UCL you always conclude Messi had a bad season.he scored 12 goals last season in UCL,the closest to him was lewandolski with 8, Ronaldo scored 6.
You just end up proving the guy you quoted right.


How can someone be the best player in the tournament he played and someone still think he underperformed just because he didn't win the tournament.
That's the standard Lionel Messi have set for himself.

Since when does being the highest goal scorer in a competition equate to being the best player??

joviegghead:
So you sat comfortably to type this rubbish.

The footballing world has set it standard for Messi higher than any other player.
Every season, Messi is expected to win championship league. Why? Because his performances in cup and league matches are always top notch and everyone is tired to seeing him dominate locally and statistically across Europe . It's either he performs in UCL or forget. World cup wahala is still on is neck

Same can't be said for Ronaldo. Once he scores 20+ league goals, people start shouting for him to be given ballon d'or. How many times do you hear people setting world cup has a standard for Ronaldo? Never.

Did messi perform in the ucl last year when he won the balon dor?

And also unlike messi, cr7 can never be judged based on a world cup trophy cuz of the team he plays for.... The fact that cr7 has a trophy with portugal is a miracle itself

MetalJigsaw:
SHow me where I said they came from EPL.
I said Record has it that 85% of players that move from the EPL to Spain end up as flops or average. Even players from other Leagues.


If you say Kane can score up to 40 goals in LaLiga then you're insinuating that he's better than Messi and Suarez.

Please explain to me what you mean by 'even players from other leagues' cuz Sanchez was not a flop in Spain, neither was higuain..

pls how does saying that Kane would score 40goals imply that he is better than messi or suarez?? afterall, suarez has scored 40 goals in a single la liga season before while messi even scored 50.. just because those two did not score much this season does not mean they cant score 40 next season

Incase you dont know, Kane was the highest goal scorer in europe in 2017.. the first player to break the messi-cr7 duopoly of being the highest goal scorer in a calendar year....

MetalJigsaw:
Then why is Hazard struggling at Real Madrid?

Record has it that 85% of players that move from the EPL to Spain end up as flops or average. Even players from other Leagues.
What does that imply to you Mr?

Hazard
Bale
Song
Higuain
Sanchez
just a few



How can you say harry Kane would score 40 goals in Laliga ... Deep down you know it's a big lie.

Bale a flop?? He has 4ucl and 3la liga trophies with madrid and yet you call him a flop... Bale has not been playing recently, but thats mainly because zidane does not like him not because he's not good.. let me ask you a question.. since Bale started playing in Spain, how many players in that country have more goals than him within that period?

And bros, Higuain and sanchez did not move FROM EPL TO LA LIGA

as for A.song, he was not a world class player during his time in epl either

And oga, harry kane would easily score 40goals in la liga

kingola87:
Hmm
So why did lord hazard has only one goal?

This season was difficult for hazard, no doubt.. but that does not make him a bad player, wait till the end of next season before jumping into conclusion... its just like courtois who was probably the worst goalkeeper in la liga last season but is now arguably the best this season

And bro, hazard has never been much of a goalscorer, throughout his time in england, he never won the golden boot, so I dont expect him to suddenly start scoring goals for fun in la liga...
But you see the likes of kane, vardy, mane, salah, these guys are proven goalscorers and would score about 40goals in la liga

Baba4kinatu:
Please quit your lies. Here's an education for you
Quagriella made 11 starts Scored 11 goals 0 penalties for a mediocre team.
Remove Ronaldo penalties you will realize he is just an overhyped player. He made just 11 starts and has the same no of assist as crynaldo

Did you design that pic yourself... I dont know where you got that stats from, but even a dumb person would know that 68% of 27 matches is not 11 starts...

The pic below is the real stats from the site you visited and here's the link incase you wanna verify https://www.transfermarkt.com/fabio-quagliarella/leistungsdaten/spieler/22328

Baba4kinatu:
Kindly tell us how many starts Quad had... Go on. I love education. Quad comes in as a 80th minute substitute in most of his matches.

Quadlieralla have actually played 27 games this season( not 24 as I said earlier) and 25 of these games have been from the start...

Moura7:
lol...laliga is way too easy? Joke.

Pls bro mention 5 players that have come from EPL to laliga and have dominated it exceptionally as an individual. I mean someone who developed as a player in the EPL like Ronaldo, give me four more

Modric, bale, suarez, forlan

Baba4kinatu:
Bring the facts.... 9 years in spain 2 la ligas. He ran to Juve that doesnt require his help to win the league. My dear bring your facts. Quag Outscored ronaldo and he would have done that again this season

Hahahahaha, it would interest you to know that last season was the FIRST TIME in his career that Quagliarella had scored more than 20 league goals in a single season, and yet you think he would somehow perform magic and score 30+ goals(something he has never done before) to outscore cr7

cr7 has 31goals in 33 games this season while Quad has 11goals in 24 games, so meaning you expect Quad to score 20goals in 9 games to catch cr7 abi....

Pls dont quote me again, I don't have time for this useless argument

Baba4kinatu:
Did Ronaldo score 30 last season. Fabio would outscored Ronaldo again, if not for Claudio rainieri not playing him at all this season

Quagliarella would outscore cr7 again?? Wow... The hatred you messi fanboys have for cr7 is out of this world..
Ideally, I would reply this foolish statement with facts and follow up questions but I choose not to cuz I dont wanna waste my energy on you

2loadedguy:
Shebi that's the way Hazard your king in the epl has been scoring it since he joined Madrid. When we say common sense is not common it's because of comments like this.

Throughout the time when hazard was in epl, was there ever a time when he finished the season as the highest goal scorer??

FunkyAlhaji2015:
Last season he was undone by a 38 year old player who won the golden boot

But this same 38 years old player only scored 26goals na...