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MaxInDHouse:
Those angels did their job by carrying the sin offering away from the tomb!



Agree with your atheist brother about who is JEHOVAH then you can make sense to me!

Courz:
Mad MaxInDHouse, I will keep repeating it over and over again. You JWs are worshipping the god of the Freemasons as a Freemason organisation. Jehovah is the Masonic name for Lucifer. Your Governing body member admitted that no one knows the real pronunciation of God's name. Jehovah is a made up name regarded as a Mistranslation by the Fake Jews because they know what it really means. It is derived from Yahovah which has the blasphemous meanings from the Jewish language below. Jehovah is a Magic word. It is used by the Freemasons to chant in their Rituals. It is also used in Magic to summon demons. It is regarded as a Powerful name in the Occult used to make Magic spells work. This can never be the name for Almighty God. Jehovah = Lucifer = Satan= Baal = Moloch. Satan has many names. Your fellow Freemason JWs already know this to be true. It is unfortunate that you have adopted his name and his identity. Sorry o.

MaxInDHouse:
This is why reading totally differs from studying!

Now read the Bible book of Romans 6:7

For the one who has died has been acquitted from his sin.

Jesus bear the sin of the whole world in that body {Isaiah 53:5} so at Jesus' death all our sins are gone with that body {Mark 10:45} that is what Jesus will present before God's throne as attornment for the sin of imperfect mankind! Hebrews 9:12

So Jesus is not one of us (Adam's descendants) he's from the realms above {John 8:23} that is where he lives before God transformed his life into an embryo in the womb of the virgin Jewish girl (Mary) so after his earthly mission that body is no longer useful to him because he must return to his home not with flesh and blood.

His life as a mighty spirit being must continue but as a human with human body NO! NO!! NO!!!

MaxInDHouse:
Atheist!

Do you agree with Courz that JEHOVAH is the name of Satan?

FOOL!

If you have anything tangible to say type it and let's discuss because all JWs have the same line of thought regarding the life, ministry, death, resurrection and ascension of Jesus.

It's you guys that can't hold onto the same line of thought yet calling upon JWs who are unique with our beliefs!

MaxInDHouse:
Atheist!

Do you agree with Courz that JEHOVAH is the name of Satan?

FOOL!

If you have anything tangible to say type it and let's discuss because all JWs have the same line of thought regarding the life, ministry, death, resurrection and ascension of Jesus.

It's you guys that can't hold onto the same line of thought yet calling upon JWs who are unique with our beliefs!

OgaNightmare:
Jesus himself answers (John 10:17,18):

For this reason the Father loves me, because I lay down my life that I MAY TAKE IT UP AGAIN. 18 No one takes it from me, BUT I LAY IT DOWN OF MY OWN ACCORD. I HAVE AUTHORITY TO lay it down, and I have AUTHORITY TO TAKE IT UP AGAIN. This charge I have received from my Father.”

*Nothing can be clearer than these words of Christ; the life which He surrendered would be the same life which He would take again.

MaxInDHouse:
If you don't understand people's beliefs just ask them to tell you instead of lying against them!

Jesus' body was taken away by the two angels
{John 20:12} just as angels did with the body of Moses so that no Israelite knew his tomb till today:

But when Miʹcha·el the archangel had a difference with the Devil and was disputing about Moses’ body, he did not dare to bring a judgment against him in abusive terms, but said: “May Jehovah rebuke you" Jude 9

Courz:
JWs will never admit they are wrong. Never! Even though they are all falling into a pit.

This explanation of yours is consistent with other Bible verses. I remember another Bible verse I bumped into, I can't remember if it is John in Revelation or Daniel, one of them, was said to be in the spirit while he was seeing the visions. Does that mean that one of them was in spirit form? No. It meant that they were under the influence of the Holy Spirit to see those visions.

Common sense should tell JWs that when they have a doctrine that doesn't go with many other Bible verses, it is time to change that doctrine after all their so called Faithful Slave make too many mistakes in doctrines. How can you argue over a doctrine when there are so many other verses that totally destroy it? I have been asking them to explain why Jesus said he will raise up his body in 3 days and why Jesus told Thomas that he is not a Spirit. Not one of them could answer. They all went into their Robotic mode. Mad MaxInDHouse says Jesus lied and deceived Thomas that he had a physical body because Thomas was not ready to be told the truth. How Mad Max was able to read the mind of Jesus from 2022 down to thousands of years ago is Marvellous. And they get offended when they are called a Satanic Cult.

Aemmyjah:
I asked questions for you to answer so answer them first

Yes, holy spirit is at work in every resurrection including that of Jesus Christ but he was raised as spirit. I don't know which NIV you quoted from but see the images below

Aemmyjah:
I asked questions for you to answer so answer them first

Yes, holy spirit is at work in every resurrection including that of Jesus Christ but he was raised as spirit. I don't know which NIV you quoted from but see the images below

Aemmyjah:
Jesus sacriced 2 things
His bread and wine for mankind

The bread is his fleshly body (perfect body)
The wine is his blood

There are 9 resurrection in the Bible.
Jesus Christ was the 7th person but his own was different cos he was made alive in the spirit.
If you believe differently, then you may apply same analog to those who were resurrected as well like Dorcas, jairus daughter

Flesh and blood CANNOT inherit God's kingdom

He was not recognize by his disciples after he was resurrected after ONLY three days. If he were to travel for a year and come back, everyone can easily recognize him, even if na 10, 20 years
Why did Mary Magdalene not recognize him after the 3rd day though they conversed? Why did thomas not believe his fellow disciples that he was raised as if jesus christ did not tell them he will be raised up? Why did he insist on being able to see Jesus Christ in the with the holes in his body? Why did he believe, not when he saw Jesus Christ but when he saw those hole and touched them?

Don't argue with people that God has blessed with insight and true knowledge. Calm down and be humble and learn

Aemmyjah:
Jesus sacriced 2 things
His bread and wine for mankind

The bread is his fleshly body (perfect body)
The wine is his blood

There are 9 resurrection in the Bible.
Jesus Christ was the 7th person but his own was different cos he was made alive in the spirit.
If you believe differently, then you may apply same analog to those who were resurrected as well like Dorcas, jairus daughter

Flesh and blood CANNOT inherit God's kingdom

He was not recognize by his disciples after he was resurrected after ONLY three days. If he were to travel for a year and come back, everyone can easily recognize him, even if na 10, 20 years
Why did Mary Magdalene not recognize him after the 3rd day though they conversed? Why did thomas not believe his fellow disciples that he was raised as if jesus christ did not tell them he will be raised up? Why did he insist on being able to see Jesus Christ in the with the holes in his body? Why did he believe, not when he saw Jesus Christ but when he saw those hole and touched them?

Don't argue with people that God has blessed with insight and true knowledge. Calm down and be humble and learn

Aemmyjah:
They keep talking nonsense especially idle courz who Satan has incited to throw all his zeal by sharing lies

Why was Jesus Christ not easily recognised after his resurrection? Have you read the accounts of the gospels of his dealings with others after he was resurrected? He already gave up his perfect body for humans. He was put to death in the flesh and made alive in the spirit but since humans can't see spirit unless they come in materialized bodies as angels do. Jesus christ did same. Stop attacking truths cos you been holding onto lies your whole lives

Aemmyjah:
They keep talking nonsense especially idle courz who Satan has incited to throw all his zeal by sharing lies

Why was Jesus Christ not easily recognised after his resurrection? Have you read the accounts of the gospels of his dealings with others after he was resurrected? He already gave up his perfect body for humans. He was put to death in the flesh and made alive in the spirit but since humans can't see spirit unless they come in materialized bodies as angels do. Jesus christ did same. Stop attacking truths cos you been holding onto lies your whole lives

MaxInDHouse:
You're the mad person here because the Bible made us to understand that Jesus' body is the sacrifice for sin so if he took it back after death then what has he paid for sin?

Janosky:
Big difference look !
Nothing Trinitarian about John 20:17 & Revelation 3:12.
John 20:17,as a man on earth, Jesus Christ is a son worshipping God with his brothers in the physical realm.
Jesus promised he is ascending to to his God their God.

Revelation 3:5,12, as a spirit in heaven, Jesus Christ repeated what John wrote in John 20:17.
Jesus worshipping his God in heaven and Father in heaven.

Even the reward for faithfulness and obedience belongs to his God & Father?

Revelation 3:21 & Luke 1:31-33, whose throne in heaven does Jesus sit on ?

tctrills:
It would have been better if you broke down your thoughts into little posts but then let me try to reply all.
First, politics is not the cause of the bad governance in Nigeria. Putting the blame on politics shows you don't understand the meaning of politics.
Blaming politics is like blaming science. Politics like science are tools that can be used for good or for bad.
It's also interesting you used Nigeria and not countries like Switzerland and the US that have a great system of government.

As for the war in heaven, there was only one recorded war so let's not say what we don't know. The bible only recorded one war. We don't know if other wars were fought.
We all understand the purpose of the war in heaven. But also on earth there have been wars for righteous purposes such as the war against slavery also known as the American civil war.
I don't know where you get your facts from but saying human governments are failing us is a long stretch.
Thanks to improving governments, the world is now a better place than at any previous time.
In almost every constitution, slavery is an evil. We now have basic human rights.
There is less racism and discrimination than at any other time on earth.
The governments are not perfect but over time they keep getting better.
Thanks to the governments of the world today, Jehovah witnesses can spread their gospel in peace without being harassed in most nations of the world.
People fought and died to make this happen for you. That is love.

Courz:
The Governing body member's conduct during the Australian royal commission trial proved to me that Truth is very far from JWs. Just like how the JWs here in this forum are known to be chronic liars, that is what That useless Governing body member proved. They were asking him very simple straight forward questions, he was dodging here and there, making stupid statements. Even the Judge was tired and had to criticise him. He was just lying all through.

If you really teach Truth and stand by Truth, why do you have to Lie? Why can't you be courageous enough to say the Truth? Their useless Faithful slave are always bold to tell JWs that they are God's only spokesmen on earth but this fool when asked, just denied it flat, saying that it would seem presumptuous to say so and that anybody in the congregation or outside can fulfill that role. Ah! This Faithful slave people are cowards outside yet they preach to JW to be courageous and speak without fear. But Fear hold this one that he cannot be bold enough to say what he tells JWs. So, JWs are the foolish ones that can courageously speak the Truth outside so that they will be persecuted then the useless faithful slave will come out and say, See? We are being persecuted for teaching the truth. But when it is their turn to be courageous, they will be lying so that they won't be persecuted. Only JWs face persecution but their leaders will be chilling in New York in their fancy cars, maids and drivers, fancy houses and flying business class all over the world and getting fatter every day with JW donations.

When I started waking up from this Cult and watched that Trial, I was so disappointed. Each time he twists his answers and avoids the question, I will be talking through the phone shouting, Mr man, answer the question now! Why are you lying? Oh, that man was a Disgrace. After watching that, I never looked at this Cult the same. My mindset changed completely and I realised this Cult is a Fraud.

Courz:
The Governing body member's conduct during the Australian royal commission trial proved to me that Truth is very far from JWs. Just like how the JWs here in this forum are known to be chronic liars, that is what That useless Governing body member proved. They were asking him very simple straight forward questions, he was dodging here and there, making stupid statements. Even the Judge was tired and had to criticise him. He was just lying all through.

If you really teach Truth and stand by Truth, why do you have to Lie? Why can't you be courageous enough to say the Truth? Their useless Faithful slave are always bold to tell JWs that they are God's only spokesmen on earth but this fool when asked, just denied it flat, saying that it would seem presumptuous to say so and that anybody in the congregation or outside can fulfill that role. Ah! This Faithful slave people are cowards outside yet they preach to JW to be courageous and speak without fear. But Fear hold this one that he cannot be bold enough to say what he tells JWs. So, JWs are the foolish ones that can courageously speak the Truth outside so that they will be persecuted then the useless faithful slave will come out and say, See? We are being persecuted for teaching the truth. But when it is their turn to be courageous, they will be lying so that they won't be persecuted. Only JWs face persecution but their leaders will be chilling in New York in their fancy cars, maids and drivers, fancy houses and flying business class all over the world and getting fatter every day with JW donations.

When I started waking up from this Cult and watched that Trial, I was so disappointed. Each time he twists his answers and avoids the question, I will be talking through the phone shouting, Mr man, answer the question now! Why are you lying? Oh, that man was a Disgrace. After watching that, I never looked at this Cult the same. My mindset changed completely and I realised this Cult is a Fraud.

Courz:
Imagine we who are not JWs, correcting a JW on Foul language, something Watchtower kicks against, the fool is busy asking us who cursed the word, asking us why he can't say such word. And he wants us to believe he is a Jehovah’s servant, the only person doing God's will. Isn't this a shame? Even while we were in that Cult, we would never think of using that foul language in a public forum. But alas, here is a JW questioning us, Non JWs, on why the word is not a Foul language. That means we who are not JWs are better than him because we still have morals. He has no morals. A person that boasts everyday here to us how better JWs are than everyone else, how JWs are the only ones spotless and clean from the world, it is the same person using Foul language and backing up his reasons for using it because he is scared he will be reported.

I have told him to try using the F word around his fellow JWs and in the Kingdom hall, then he will know who cursed that word. I've never seen such foolishness.

MaxInDHouse:
Ọmọ let's crack jokes jàre, after all if we can't agree on religion we can live as neighbours!

MaxInDHouse:
Just one thing JUST ONE THING!

WE RECOGNIZED CHRIST'S BROTHERS AND WE ARE READY TO WORK WITH AND ASSIST THEM IN THE HUGE TASK AHEAD OF THEM! Matthew 25:34-40

Apart from that there's no difference between a JW and anyone else out there, ọmọ nobody dey teach me how to deal with my woman in bed o.

So use your heads nobody is claiming holier than thou here, that's why i always talk about the best performing group because without the GOVERNING BODY there's no way imperfect humans can do without killing unah sef either for politics or racism!

MaxInDHouse:
Who cursed it nah?

God set standard you defy it but you're now trying to impose man-made rules on me shey?

I asked you again:

Who cursed the word?

Courz:
I have once overheard a JW Male call a lady A Bitch. True story.

And In Bethel Headquarters, They use the F word as well.

oteneaaron:
Wow.

Such filthy words from a true Christian.

I thought JWs do not say curse words.

Correct me if I am wrong.

Courz:
Ahn Ahn!

This is new to me o. Where did you hear this? Youtube? Is it in Nigeria here or abroad?

Courz:
Those books are real junks! Waste. They are now old light.

I remember when I used to read the Young People Ask Book and take what I see there so seriously. But in my interaction with a lot of Young JWs, I found out that no one reads that book. I got the impression that a lot JW Youths see that book as old fashioned and unrealistic and prefer to do as they like having a lot of sex and what not. That was when I realised that a lot JWs are not in the Cult because they want to be better people or because they want to increase their knowledge in the Bible. A lot of them are mentally lazy and that's why it is easy to feed them junk. Do you know that EXJWs watch their Broadcasts more than JWs themselves? A lot of them don't even know what is in their website. But they will be arguing with you.