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Abagworo:
I'm done with you little boy. Go meet your papa.

I'm done with you little boy. Go meet your papa.[/quote]u see I was having a mind and heart to dialogue with you and know your points and why you are backing the governors act without insult been exchanged,and it has work so well up to this point that you decided to be insulting, well what else will I say? It seem to me that you have nothing else to say than to throw tantrums,that I understand and I will let it pass because I don't want to stoop down to your level and I will never be insulting to anyone on or off this forum, because is not worth it and when is time for it I do so. AT this juncture I will you and posterity

Abagworo:
I'm done with you little boy. Go meet your papa.

u see I was having a mind and heart to dialogue with you and know your points and why you are backing the governors act without insult been exchanged,and it has work so well up to this point that you decided to be insulting, well what else will I say? It seem to me that you have nothing else to say than to throw tantrums,that I understand and I will let it pass because I don't want to stoop down to your level and I will never be insulting to anyone on or off this forum, because is not worth it and when is time for it I do so. AT this juncture I will you and posterity

Abagworo:
The issue has been mostly illegal structures along Douglas Road and the human traffic congestion making it impossible to reconstruct the road over the years. 90% of Imolites have been yearning for the market to be relocated for several years but the Owerri indigenes have been fighting it because of the revenue families get from the street traders and market people. The Douglas area has been a den of criminals, cultists and drug dealers because they disappear easily into the crowd eluding arrest. Those sponsoring the anti-relocation do not like their people but one thing I am certain about is that I will post a photo of beautiful Douglas Road next year and Okorocha will emerge the jinx breaker.

stop jumping over the question and answer them, and pls if you can't answer the question don't tag my mention again. And stop explaining the unexplainable

Abagworo:
You are playing politics. Every sincere Imolite knows that Douglas Road challenge has been a major battle for every government for years or at least since I was born into this world. Since 2011 Okorocha became Governor he has been trying to use every peaceful means possible to persuade the traders to at least close the market for 4 months to allow Government work on Douglas Road and all failed. All the Governors of Imo State since 1983 have been facing same issues and recycling same method but I implore Okorocha to just start the road and block it both at NEPA and Emmanuel College. If it stays that way for 6 months the traders will relocate to Relief market and other markets that have remained unoccupied. You mentioned Udenwa so just read attached screenshot.

ma ma since you have decided to shift the goal post by speaking from two sides of the mouth, at one time you tell me that the governor is against those engaging in street trading and at the other time you will say that all the businEss done in the market is illegal. What am going to ask you now is a direct quaestion and it needs direct answer. WHO IS THE FIRST GOVERNOR TO ENGAGE OR THAT HAS PLAN TO DEMOLISH AND RELOCATE THE MARKET?.IF THE CASE HAS BEEN GOING ON EVEN B4 THIS ADMINSTRATION LIKE YOU SAID,THEN WHAT DID THE PREVIOUS ADMINSTRATION DID ABOUT IT AND HOW DID THE MASSES Frustrate THEIR PLANS? *note pls I don't want some have cut pics like you are doing all this while for an answer*

Abagworo:
I have never met Rochas but truth has been my stand devoid of media manipulation. Read this from 2012.

http://www.imostateblog.com/2012/10/15/details-from-governor-rochas-okorochas-meeting-with-street-traders-in-owerri/

Last Thursday, October 11, 2012, His Excellency, Owelle Rochas Okorocha once again showed his humility and respect for the real sovereign in Democracy when he walked from Amajieke to Emmanuel College.

The outing was rather to talk to the people directly on the need to leave street trading and to create room for free flowing traffic, re-opening of the drainage facilities, creating walk ways, and making Douglas once again the access and a bypass of a sort it used to be and of course with other necessary repairs.

Meanwhile, Governor Okorocha, did not make a request without an alternative arrangement for the traders. He directed the traders that do not have any shop to move to Relief Markets as there are many unoccupied shops at the Relief Market. He further agreed with the tire dealers to move to the old Stadium temporarily to de-congest those areas and also create a one stop market for vehicle wheels and tire.

What matters more is the direct contact with the people and the discussions they had with Governor and in appreciation, they gave their blessing to the project.
Isn’t that a redefinition of Governance and relationship mode between the Governor and the governed? Food for thought…
Uche Onwuchekwa

so you are digging up what happened in 2012 when the man was busy perfecting his spell and when the gullible was busy clapping their hands as he is putting finishing touches to his the illusion he is creating as a fact! And even as you regards this as a fact,didn't you see where he promise to set up a place for people that deals on tyres that is currently trading in dogulas by mbaise road and towards new market? And did he do that? You and I know that he didn't, and the same traders are where they are, after some years o tell them this so called plans which you reffuse implement. Then you woke up and said you are relocating them to one kuvuki land without consultations

Abagworo:
You know the truth about how Douglas area has been a serious challenge for every Imo Government. Okorocha couldn't do much in his 1st term being an opposition Governor but I implore him to use every power possible to make sure Douglas road is upgraded to a befitting standard. If I were him I would have long started wirk on the road blocking vehicular movement completely. He is just too kind and has pity on the lawless traders.

for me I know street trading has be a problem to imo state government and as well as other state government in the federation where a market like this is located and you are making it seem like rochas was the first executive governor imo has or imo state was created yesterday. Well what am going to tell is that udenwa faced the problem of street trading and you and rochas should go and ask him how he combat it,am sure he didn't just woke up one morning to say because of street trading we will move eke-ukwu owerri, dude like I said earlier you are not from the state and secondly you are not igbo because if you are you will know that a market signify and you will know that virtually every igbo community has a market. About that line you said that if you were rochas you would have started work regardless of what the citizen feel or say, well sorry to that you are not and let me also tell you that it is incompetence to blame your adversaries even when you fail abd the failure is from you and of your own making. So it is the biggest form of stupidity to blame the way this issue of eke-ukwu owerri has degenerated to this point without acknowledging that the cause is from the governor as he is trying to force his will and equally lead like an emperor by taking a decision with consulting the affected people

Abagworo:
I have never met Rochas but truth has been my stand devoid of media manipulation. Read this from 2012.

http://www.imostateblog.com/2012/10/15/details-from-governor-rochas-okorochas-meeting-with-street-traders-in-owerri/

Last Thursday, October 11, 2012, His Excellency, Owelle Rochas Okorocha once again showed his humility and respect for the real sovereign in Democracy when he walked from Amajieke to Emmanuel College.

The outing was rather to talk to the people directly on the need to leave street trading and to create room for free flowing traffic, re-opening of the drainage facilities, creating walk ways, and making Douglas once again the access and a bypass of a sort it used to be and of course with other necessary repairs.

Meanwhile, Governor Okorocha, did not make a request without an alternative arrangement for the traders. He directed the traders that do not have any shop to move to Relief Markets as there are many unoccupied shops at the Relief Market. He further agreed with the tire dealers to move to the old Stadium temporarily to de-congest those areas and also create a one stop market for vehicle wheels and tire.

What matters more is the direct contact with the people and the discussions they had with Governor and in appreciation, they gave their blessing to the project.
Isn’t that a redefinition of Governance and relationship mode between the Governor and the governed? Food for thought…
Uche Onwuchekwa

ma man I will be back for you

Abagworo:
Rochas Okorocha rebuilt and expanded relief market but the street traders on Douglas refused to relocate and you know very well about that.

ok now is street traders and not the whole market again?, you and your daddy rochas should continue deceiving the gullible?

Abagworo:
The situation has been like that for over 30 years but no priests took pictures of it until Okorochas government decided to take the bl by the horn. As you can see I posted mine just before election and I clearly suggested for removal of all the markets there to allow government reconstruct the road. Read again.

ma man it is a lie,if the situation is like this since 30 years or whatever decade you claim then why did imo state at one time win the award for the cleanest state the whole federation?

proeast:
Why are you defending madness Rochas lost his thinking faculties a long time ago! Like seriously, did you mention that Mbaise is a minority in Imo state Pls which tribe is more populous than Mbaise in Imo State?? Why would you compare Orlu senatorial zone with Mbaise when the former is not homogenous but comprises several tribes?? Again, when did Ihedioha campaign strictly on the basis of coming from Mbaise? I wonder btw you & Rochas who is worse!

leave that boy wey wan claim to know imo state more than people from it, and in the process embarrassing himself

Abagworo:
I'm glad you wrote some of the reasons the market should be removed and the road expanded. Ihedioha was not rejected as an Mbaise man but because he campaigned on grounds of being an Mbaise man whereas Mbaise is minority with only 3 LGAs. Okorocha did not campaign on grounds of being an Orlu man despite Orlu being majority with 12 LGAs and Onuimo + Mbaitoli politically affiliated to make it 14 and Ohaji/Egbema subtracted making it 13.

As per Douglas road I believe Okorocha will take the glory in the end.

you why I said you are not from imo state, as you don't know that your god okorocha is not an orlu man rather he is from ideato south which is in orlu senatorial zone, while emeka is from mbaise in owerri zone?

Abagworo:
Douglas road has never been neat. It is a part of Owerri my grandparents, my parents and I have always avoided plying right from the day I was born till date.

ma man this statement is a big,fat and white lie,the statement suppose to be 'DOGULAS HAS NEVER BEEN SO DIRT LIKE THIS IN THIS DEMOCRACY DISPENSATION'. And my friend you are not from imo state and even it has been proved continually

Abagworo:
Don't write on what you know little or nothing about. Douglas road has been a big problem for successive Goverments and nothing tangible can be done without at least demolishing part of and temporarily relocating all of the markets along that road. Those opposing the reconstruction of Douglas road are doing so out of politics and not interest of Imolites. All the past Governments attempted to reconstruct Douglas and all failed but I believe Okorocha will succeed. Watch out next year how Douglas road will look.

ma man you see where and why I do have issues with you,so because you want to construct a road or add some road to the existing one that means that the whole market have to be relocated?,what happens to relocating the affect line of trade or market as chief achike udenwa did that gave birth to relive market?. My man am so sorry to say this your hypocrisy stinks to high heavens.did you know that sometime ago the market people decide to do away with the dirt but there plans was stopped by the state government?.

ted1741:
Those advising you to move on and the kids will come back obviously do not have kids. Your kids need you just as much as you need them. The kids need the nurturing from both parents. Fathers raise kids differently from mothers because we come from two different perspectives in life. Your kids need that balance and benefit of upbringing from those two perspectives. More importantly, the way she left implicitly means that she is habouring animosities towards you based on her own imaginary and utopian world devoid of your circumstances and reality. She is dislusioned that you are not delivering the "good" life for her. Perhaps she married you under those expectations or based on promises you made or she perceived. It doesn't now, if you do not intervene now, she is likely to poison the kids' minds towards you by saying uncharitable things in both subtle and verbal ways. If you do not intervene in a timely fashion, don't surprise the hostile attitude towards you from the kids, believe me, it will happen and happen very fast. Consequently, the kids will perceive you as a run a way father and may not forgive you so easily. Once the bond is elastically over stretched, the disconnect may never be reversed when they are matured. Put differently, if you are absent in their lives, they will resent you and you have from now before they turn 14, a teenage age when most of our lives' attributes are formed and shaped. Human beings begin to internalize events in their lives as early as three years. They will remember how their mother suffered and sacrificed to raise them and wonder what kind of dad you are and no amount of explanation from you can disabuse them of that ingrained memory. I strongly suggest you meet with her mother and diligently make effort even to a fault and speak with her. She is your wife, she may not be rational in this regard but as a man, she needs your effort to bring her back to reality because she is going through a phase. I suggest you ignore friends who may laugh and call you unprintable names because they are not in your shoes and don't understand why you the dogged effort to bring her back. A philosopher once said that, "in every relationship, one person must play the fools part" for it to succeed. Every family has issues and until they confine in you, you may never know what they are going through. My father once said that, "until you sleep with someone on the same bed, you will never know how their mouth smell", literally. Go and get your family. That is what a good husband/father does. It may take a lot of persuasion to get her to come on board either out of pride or irrationality, but persist for the sake of the children. Confine on someone she respects and listens to if all efforts fail and let the person speak with her. It is imperative you raise your kids or you will be sorry in no distant time. Goodluck.

another option for op, but where I faulT this advise is the some people don't just understand through talks(hence it is not reasonable and and it height of stupidity to be reasonable to unreasonable people), so in other words what is that possibility that if he labour and get back the woman and kids, the woman won't play a higher stunt than this one?. Even if he is negotiating for the kids and the wife he needs to do that from a strong position

Kpac:
I would give my response JUST by hearing you side of the story.....

Situation Currently
First, i am sure your wife is not a Yoruba lady. As a culture, our ladies are not trained and taught to leave their husband's house unofficially or abscond with kids from the marriage. Whatever you were thinking, that was the first mistake.

Secondly, your wife must be a beauty queen and one which you have fought so "HARD" to win and even marry. You have lived all your decisions for her, to please her and to keep her. You have made hefty promises while you were convincing her to marry you and its unfortunate you can really keep them. You spend almost all your resource and energy to make her happy and for the past few years things have been hard, all your goal was to make it up and prove a point. Unfortunately, that goal sent you even deeper into more troubles than your plans could reveal.

I am sure you took the "lucrative" printing job just because of her, she might not be the reasons you gave everyone and yourself, but in your hearts of heart, you know you took that risk to make it big, make her happy, prove a point, keep her quiet and give you confidence as a man. That decision got you deeper into troubles.

You bought the car to get contracts and get effective in your business is another reason you gave everyone and yourself, you knew how you fantasized the happiness and hug from your wife when the car first gets into your compound and she sees it. You bought that car to gain confidence you have lost and the indirect and direct embarrassment she was giving you from comparisons.

Against what is good for you again, you moved to oshogbo to please her yet again. You wrongly thought oshogbo would "tame" her and give you some peace. Another major decisions taken to please your wife again and because you have lost the power to make the right decisions to solely please your wife, all those decisions never lasted as intended.

I wouldn't know what more you did and that you know just for your wife and to keep her.

I respect your wife because i respect you but some women are best left for the consumption social media, for photo shoots and cover pages of magazines. Choosing a wife is entirely a different course and i cant teach you more than you have learnt.

Your kids would still be your kids if you have married any woman, They are your gene, your chemistry and contains your DNA. Choosing who gives birth to them is what they require you take in their best decisions.

Your wife would always keep you on your foot even if you earn 10 million naira every month excluding tax. If you had thought there are levels an insatiable woman gets contented and quiet, you were wrong. They would continue to grow in their in-contentment and their taste and expectations would get to an advanced level as your worth increases.

Way Forward
Please visit your in-laws, seek audience and if possible request for a meeting. Get to know what your wife's expectations are and what time she would give you to achieve them, seek to know what your in-laws expectations are also of you and the time to achieve them. Seek to know the consequences of you failing to achieve them all. Seek to find out if your wife really sees the marriage as compulsory or optional. Seek to know if there are options of separations on the table from your in-laws.

This would let you know the "EXACT" situation you have gotten yourself into and give you the broad view to analyze if you can achieve them or not.

If you cant achieve them, make the best decisions for your kids and please get your life back and stop living to please anybody. Its a journey that never ends.

No matter how hard you try, you cannot satisfy an insatiable wife and its all your faults here because you went into the marriage for selfish reasons and now you have to face it.

Its hard but sincerely, this truth would send you back into the path you should really be.

articulate and astute reasoning menh! This the best and logical advise I have seen on this thread

oloriooko:
Bro why you finding it very difficult to see outside the box? Why you so hung up on waiting till the govt responds? There are many things we can do ourselves if the govt fails to live up to its responsibility.
Probably many of his church members contributed to that heap of rot, regardless of this, many churches do no social work but collect so much from members.

My argument is simple: it would have been more suitable if he was pictured in his robe clearing that rubbish with his congregation than popping wine in a dump!

ok I see,well what you said is acceptable to me on some quarters, which is if the people should that then there is no need for paying taxes like environmental tax or thereabout, and also there won't b any need for government since the people can as well render some of the services government can do for them.if so then fine he can clear the dump,pls to state this also do you think that a government that leaves such rot near a place of habit of its citizen such be left out of blames for any reason?

oloriooko:
If his church had gone there to clear that rubbish don't you think this thread would have been full of praises for that priest and enough bashing for the govt?
Does this church not tax the people in form of tithes, so he has a social responsibility towards the society too

wait his church will do that even when some people are been paid from the tax money the shop owners pay to government? Is his church registered as a charity organisation?

I see some people saying that the priest should help out in clearing out the refuse dump,my question to those people say all manner of junk with considering the other part of the story is WHO IS COLLECTING TAX LIKE environmental tax from the shop the shop owners in douglas and it environs?. Is it the church the priest presides or the priest?. WELL back to the topic,that refuse is the way for the governor to eXpress his displeasure on owerri people for their refusal to allow his have his way, which is to relocate that market, after the owerri people won him in court. He now result to this as if the owerri people never stood by him in his darkest hour or they never contribute to his success today. And my massage to owerri people is that if you truly want to keep your market after making your stance known is to organize yourself( as I believe you have owerri development union both home and abroad) to handle the dirt yourselves, BECOS IF YOU ARE WAITING FOR GOVERNMENT YOU GUYS MIGHT DIE OF DISEASE

HoW much dem go tell us this time around say this one gulp?

I see this landing in cannan aka permanent site.....so make I procure 2 plots of land b4 the price skyrockets

Celebration of mediocrity,nepotism and advanced tribalism and favoritism without adhering to the laws of nature and God or trying to enshrine the tenets of true democracy or federalism. A joke of a country

Tomorrow some group of people will feel that not been unpatriotic is only found in one section of a country, without addressing the issue. Now that's a young,fine lady that has a dream and vision trying to achieve them and why didn't she try to achieve them in this country is another case for examination,or what she feel was her reason for going abroad is not found here. Last shot you can't force patriotism on people, people do it willing if they see a reason to do so

bakynes:
Him and his Professor Bala are obviously on some high dry weed. I dont know where he got that shi*t from am sure he was high on some cocaine before taking that interview.Our history books never mentioned such so i wonder where he got his own weed from that is making him mad.

thanks for the clarification.so how did that the YORUBA name come †̥♥ b?

bakynes:
Him and his Professor Bala are obviously on some high dry weed. I dont know where he got that shi*t from am sure he was high on some cocaine before taking that interview.Our history books never mentioned such so i wonder where he got his own weed from that is making him mad.

thanks for the clarification

Pls my Brothers from tɧҽ south west come and explain this Quote from this man.'Even Professor Bala Usman said that the word Yoruba does not connote anything in Yoruba language as it is a name given by an Islamic scholar that coined the word Yoruba.'

mekuilis:
Hmmm. Its funny how people outside the scene perceive this man(Okorocha) to be a saint. I blame the PDP structure for this loss. They let Athan Achonu's popularity get into their head. APC won in just Umunachi ward,Obowo with 885 votes to PDP's 557 votes. All collating officers went missing from their collating centres around 2pm,their phones were switched off,only to surface at 1am. Prior to their appearance, Athan Achonu came to the INEC office and was greatly cheered by the crowd, Uwajumogu of APC came minutes later and recieved an award winning booing and jeering from the same crowd,he had to rush back into his car and drove off,same went for Hon. Chike Okafor,son of Obowo and House of Rep member and Uwajumogu's ally. Fast foward to 3am,in came Rochas with his retinue of soldiers who brutalized people and dispersed them,they carried out their scheme and out comes Uwajumogu as winner.
When they will come tumbling down,land grabbing Rochas Okorocha and his cronies,we all shall be here waiting. Waiting with their rewards in our hands.

RESPECK oga ɩt seems like Y̶̲̥̅̊ø̲̣̣̥ǖ are on Ground when the shit W̶̲̥̅̊åS̤̈̊ Going down. Anyway I will strongly advice you not †̥♥ argue with these people as most ☀̤̣̈̇f them are not on Ground and they will never understand what's happening. What I will tell imo PDP is †̥♥ put their House !Π order and shave off Greed and personal ambition (especially those from owerri and okiGwe zone) or face another defeat, all is set for another massive change ☀̤̣̈̇f Government from the masses decision, ΨђåƮ is missing is the willingness and support ☀̤̣̈̇f the bigwigs †̥♥ complete the missing part ☀̤̣̈̇f the puzzle

Abagworo:
Ahia Eke Onuwa Osisi will be moved in order to expand and reconstruct Douglas road after which a new and befitting market will be built. Stop fighting change and development because it is the only thing that is permanent. Other village markets in Imo State have been temporarily moved and rebuilt to structures better than Owerri main market like I posted earlier using Umuaka market in Njaba LGA.

oga mi I have been waiting for you †̥♥ talk. And now you have said something about this issue Y̶̲̥̅̊ø̲̣̣̥ǖ can elaborate more.pls which market are you talking about? If is Umuaka market then I can see that Y̶̲̥̅̊ø̲̣̣̥ǖ are not in line with the reality,will the market contain all the traders in EKEUKWU owerri?. Did you know that Umuaka market is filled up or has he built stalls or lock up shops in the market? How many traders will move over and how stalls or lock up shops is there for them. MY FRIEND Y̶̲̥̅̊ø̲̣̣̥ǖ CAN'T WAKE UP ONE MORNING AND START RELOCATION ☀̤̣̈̇f MARKET especially a traditional market for that matter. And as for Y̶̲̥̅̊ø̲̣̣̥ǖ development quote I will visit later when ɩt calls for attention,i will save this page we will visit ɩt later when he must have finish developing the place or when He didn't.

nkemdi89:
They were relocated to avu along ph road, but they are complaining that the place is far.

you haven't answer all my question. The answer you gave W̶̲̥̅̊åS̤̈̊ for the mechanics and ɩt is not complete as you haven't tell ♍ƺ about the arrangements and structures in place for !Π AVU. On the other hand you haven't answer where he will be citing the new market as !Π if he moves EKEUKWU owerri

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nkemdi89:
I am more grounded in your state than you and why I continue to engage in these argument is to enlighten people like you on the good work of the governor, some people has to pay the price for development.

since you are well grounded in imo state affairs. Tell ♍ƺ where the Governor or Government plan †̥♥ relocate the mechanics and the market?. And ΨђåƮ is the situation on Ground on that place, as !Π structures and others?

Is this not the same people can recommend the slashing ☀̤̣̈̇f HOR and SENATOR and presidential salaries as well as other elective officials? Y won't they do ɩt? And why will they propose an increments on VAT?. CHIE! Poorman Don suffer for naija