₦airaland Forum

Isusugbaghada:
Go get a life instead of jumping into what you know nothing about

Or did the oba tell you he is going to keep it inside the palace?

This is the agreement he had with obaseki in 2019 while is obaseki shifting to legacy trust an EMOWAA without even telling the oba

you just jump into issue without knowing the oba reason for action


Who tell u say na palace them wan put the art

Or watch the Friday oba press conference where he told the press

"If obaseki were to walk in here now I ask him erhi ma gba ta ra ? ( is this what we plan earlier)"

vba gba ta? ya de gwoghua vbo odo

Isusugbaghada:
Mr Biafra go find life nobody go mind you

Or can I employ u ?

If you don't mind since u not get work

when an average Nigerian cant survive in the arena of ideas, he resorts to name calling

Dude, use your brain for ones and liberate your self from mental slavery!!!!! ovien

Regie2bless:
I'm a bini man, but on this issue I dont support the Oba, first Benin kingdom was invaded in 1897 by the British, no where in history suggests that it is only the palace that was robbed other households in Benin kingdom was also affected by the raid, that means is that is not the Oba property or the Oba claiming ownership of the artifacts. Secondly can the Oba provide the needed security for such Artifacts? Knowing full well that one small piece can amount to millions of naira, can such property be safe in his compound? Queen Elizabeth does not have a museum in her compound. With utmost respect the Oba should allow the government do their job. Tnks.

God bless you - Oba is not the State and this is how tyranny starts - The man is educated and he should realize we are in m odern times - not the era where he can cut someone's head with a flick of his finger - Even if the whole artefact comes from his palace - they were in a museum for more than 100 years in Europe - why cant they be put in a museum in Nigeria? IF the Oba wants the artecfacts - then he must sign that he and his lineage will NEVER COLLECT A SALARY AGAIN FROM THE STATE GOVERNMENT - Henceforth - You can not eat your cake and have it...

The Queen of England and the Royal family of England gets paid about 5% of the entire profits that the COUNTRY generates from tourism each year - which runs into hundreds of millions of pounds - And the things people come to see are the exclusive rights of the Windsors, the Queen's family. The Queen is not fighting the British government to control the arts of statutes which is the property of her family

DO NOT FORGET SOME THINGS IN THE BRITISH MUSEUM IN LONDON ARE ART WORKS STOLEN BY THE GERMAN'S 3RD REICH UNDER HITLER and they were returned after the end of the second world war - The Queen did not say - these must be returned to her palace - They are in the LONDON Museum

Can the Oba be humble enough to learn from the Queen of England ?

kingthreat:
Dont say this in Benin. People there dey vex. Dethrone a whole Oba of Benin? No just even whisper am.

who the Oba dey feed? na Oba dey feed you ? abegi - liberate yourelf from mental slavery!

obynzo:
I understand, but note the colonials deposed the Oba after the punitive expedition and nothing happened to them. if it is in the basis of preserving the heritage of the monarchy it is understandable.

what of the soldiers (FREE CITIZENS of Benin) who died preserving the monarch and the monarchy in 1897? dont their lineage deserve to have access to see these things freely in a government controlled environment ? Dont their lineage deserve to be compensated by gettin employed in the museaum and getting wages? What IF THE PALACE say's - women cant see this - woman cant go there within the museum ? is that fair ?

WHERE ON EARTH DO WE HAVE A ROYAL MUSEUM?

Patrioticman007:
See casting of the little emperor called Obaseki, it will be for the state interest, if the artefacts are kept in the royal palace museum, for they will protect with their lifes, under like the governor that will sell it to the highest bidder.

do people steal from Nigerian museaums? boy it is not about the artefacts - it is about the money coming with the artefacts they are fighting over - 11 billion naira - will you trust the OBA (who no one can question) with that money or the STATE GOVERNMENT (with a governor who can be probed) ?

BanevsJoker:
Obaseki should google Anthony Onyearugbulam.

guy go chill for one corner - Queen Elizabeth who raped our country and subdued all our Kings and Royals in Nigeria to laughing stock - she is still on the throne looking good and pretty by the day and all of them she humilated in the 50's. 60's 70's 80's 90's and afterwards are dead and rotten under ground - Onyearugbulem was just a coincidence- free your mind from mental slavery boy!

GeneralPula:
While the palace wants the artefacts kept in the Benin Royal Museum, which will be built within the palace, the state government wants the items preserved in the proposed Edo Museum of West African Arts.

Benin royal museum is okay nah..

Anyway their palaba

Leave Benin Royal Museum bs - who collects the gate takings ? OBA - How does the state benefit from that ? Oba collects the gate takings - the workers there will be unpaid, fear no go let them ask Oba for salary because him na their god - then Oba gets salary from the state government again - he gets allowances from the state goverment - he gets privileges from the state regardin security votes, allocation all that - MAKE OBA KUKU CARRY THE STATE TAKE NA - SINCE NA HIM GET THE STATE - I hate rubbish

DeFuturePresido:
The crux of the disagreement is this: Who should rightfully take custody of these artefacts? To answer the question, let us take two approaches:

1. Who was the original owner of these artefacts, and who, today, physically embodies that person?

2. Who has the greatest capacity to preserve these artefacts for the greater good of the largest number of people and for posterity? Is it
A. The Benin Royal Palace,
B. A privately managed Museum Trust,
C. The Edo State Government or
D. The Federal Government of Nigeria?

ANSWERS
1. The rightful original "owner" or custodian was Oba Ovonramwen Nogbaisi, who was deposed during the British "punitive expedition" of 9 - 17 Feb 1897, which was led by Rear-Admiral Harry Rawson, and which led to sacking of the Benin empire.

The person that, today, physically embodies Oba Ovonramwen is (unequivocally) the current ruler of Benin Kingdom, Oba Eheneden Erediauwa Ewuare II.

2. The answer to who can best manage the artifacts, unfortunately, is not straight forward. Technically, it should be the Federal or State government. However, you only need to pay a visit to Federal and State museums, libraries, or monuments across the country to understand that good management and maintenance is not a strong point of government in these parts.

That leaves us with The Royal Palace or The Private Trust.

My inclination is to suggest a merger of the two options:

A. The museum/cultural district should be built in the location chosen by the Oba of Benin.
B. The museum/cultural district should be managed by the Private Trust.
C. Oba Ewuare II should be made the Chairman of the Trust.
D. The CEO of the Trust should be a thoroughly seasoned professional and should be chosen via a merit-based selection process.
E. Members of the Trust Board should be drawn equally from nominees provided by the Benin Palace, the State Government, the Trust's Directors and the Federal Government.
F. All decisions should be made via simple majority votes.

I believe that this option will resolve the issue and provide the best solution.

There is money involved that's why they are fighting - the money is N11 Billion - eleven billion naira
Oba won chop am alone - Governor say no - the state need the money to upgrade the exisiting museum - build a new one for these artefacts which will provide emplyment for the citizens of the state - if that money enter OBA hand - na voicemail - nobody go know wetin happen to am - but if the state governemnt takes control of it at least EFCC can ask Obaseki what happened to the money if nothing is seen as to what happened to it - The state is bigger than any traditional ruler in Nigeria- The state pays Oba his salary - and he does nothing for his people economically than to seat in the palace wearing beads and dishing out orders which no one can question - abegi TRADITIONAL RULERS SHOULD GET OFF THE WAY AND LET DEVELOPMENT COME TO THE PEOPLE - No wonder Abacha dethroned Sultan Dasuki and Ganduje dethroned Emir Sanusi - Monarchy in Nigeria is no longer absolute - even in the UK - there is no royal museum despite the Queen being the Head of State - Why cant the Oba let the state government do their work?

Vulcanheph:
You're even going too far, we all know that money circulates through hands so it will be futile.... How about having a military strike team on standby while paying the ransom and then putting a tracking device on the bags used to carry the money used to pay the ransom.... I've watched a lot of military/detective action movies.

God bless you - the Nigerian security agencies and their directors are either clueless or complicit in all these - their own na to dey decorate themselves with new rank for tv every other day, dress up with fine military regalia and dey make shakara with their empty skulls having nothing to show for or deserving of the “cursed ranks” they wear on their chest and shoulders...

These security chiefs and their employer in Aso Rock are a disgrace to humanity?

Vulcanheph:
That is a very good question....

I have a silly question to ask

how come nigerian government can not print a few bundles of naira notes to mix with the money they give out to pay ransom and if any of this currency shows up in the bank, the person presenting it will be arrested instanta ?

Is this too hard to do? because we know that these cash amount will somehow find its way to our commercial banks - so is the CBN so daft that they can’t think of this move?

kb83:
Daddy Freeze spoke well, Jesus said he that is not against you is for you. TB Joshua has never stood against Christianity before, hence He deserve honour in death, Let all our G.Os bow their head in shame, I have lost respect for them all.

You are late in losing respect for them

I lost respect for all of them when none captions tell buhari to protect christians in kaduna

i lost respect for them when none of them could take a strong stand against Leah Sharibu’s maltreatment by Boko Haram and the government could not negotiate her release with the others

i lost respect for them when they could not help their church members during the pandemic


i lost respect for them when they build schools that their church members can not afford to attend

useless bunch of daddy GO’s!!!!

thundafire:
This is why NIGERIA citizens are the most foolish set of people. So does dat change dey fact that he is still a terrible politician all are stunt's and they know with things as little as this zombies will rally for them. Eg Vulture griller

NOW YOU SEE WHY politicians go buy corn from the road side and pretend to be eating it when election time comes

because Nigerian masses are very st u pid - they believe stunts like this makes the oppressor an equal to them

Ovamboland:
But why can't the Ibos face their states and run it effectively with the so much intelligence they claim? If they do that many ordinary people from as far as Zamfara would ask such people lead the country.
But reality is almost non of the 5 SE states will make it to top 10 in best run Nigerian state

What business or state or organization did BUHARI run effectively with so much success to qualify him to rule Nigeria in 1984 and 2015?


M VM V man you tink say you wise

NigeriaZoo:
If Kanu had committed a crime the UK security forces and immigration would have arrested, imprisoned, and deported him. The fact that he was still allowed to travel unhindered within the UK and globally means that the UK does not see him as a criminal or terrorist.

1. He has not been found guilty of any crime or act of terror
2. IPOB is not proscribed as a terrorist group anywhere in the world because they know who the real terrorists are
3. The international community is aware of all the crimes against humanity committed by the Nigeria FG ; so to prosecute one without the other will be next to impossible
4. MNK has not called for any crimes to be committed on British soil or against British nationals anywhere in the world
5. The kidnapping of MNK against his will is likely to expose a trail of crime committed by the countries involved, including the Nigerian FG
6. The fact that he was allowed to keep all his privileges in the UK despite causing the Nigerian FG sleepless nights means that the UK government is not 100% on the side of the Nigerian FG. They know Buhari is a terrorist enabler.


Besides, if the UK does make any such plans it will die in a court of law or die in the lower house of parliament. The lawyers here are the not the charge and bail lawyers you have all over Nigeria, they will make 'mincemeat' of any such move.

Nope, his UK citizenship is for LIFE.

dont mind them - When the average power drunk Nigerian can not defeat you in the arena of ideas, they resort to threat

It is his UK citizenship now that they want to threaten - they think the UK is a banana republic like Nigeria where the government of the day can do and undo. MNK did not go to the battle field to fight against western interest - He is a secessionist agitator with no ties to any terror group. His address is known in the UK. He is not hiding in some cave in Afghanistan - He has not accepted or taken responsibility for any death or destruction like Boko Haram or Al Qaeda leaders do - so on what grounds is the FGN contemplating the attack on his UK citizenship?

That is the new ploy to stifle opposing and dissenting voices from people from the diaspora - against the oppressive and repressive government of Nigeria under the Fulani. IT WILL NOT WORK!!!!!! - I am a naturalized American of Nigerian birth - and I boldly say BUHARI is a fo ol and a terrorist, oya come take my US citizenship - BASKALIFUL

UstazAhmed:
Which civil war? Who is fighting who

at least u witnessed end sars

slawormiir:
Damnnn niggar
Isoright...
500 hundred naira and na im bros op dey complain
Ogbeni na 1000 we take dey barb for Benin city...


Ogbeni....which one be lie kill me dia? I dey tell you The truth....you dey argue..there is no industry in Benin city...no company to work money...but things are so expensive

my broda no vex na joke i dey joke thats why i put smiley - you are right - everything don go up anyhow men

rill:
Wanna rant . The effect of inflation is seriously hitting everywhere. Infact I'm still vexing since yesterday night

I visited my barber yesterday for my routine haircut, 2 weeks after my last visit. After he was done, I brought out my usual #300. He refused to collect, telling me there is an adjustment in price. He said the new charge is #500, directing me to the updated price list.

I was like Wtf , why u no tell me b4 u start. I for just vex comot the shop and carry the hair for another two weeks. I had only stepped out with #500, hoping to buy suya with the remaining #200. He apologised and told me he forgot. He mentioned they had a meeting and agreed on the increment, blaming the continuous increase in price of goods and services.

I told him I will give him 300, and then balance him on my next visit. That suya been dey really hungry me. He eventually agreed because he knows me well.

When I got home, nah vex I use chew the suya, e no come sweet for mouth sef. Now I would have to adjust the frequency i visit for a haircut. Maybe I go even change my hairstyle to last skin, cos my hair grow very fast.

This country sef.....

Nairalanders..... How much do u guys now pay for your hairdo, abi nah my area alone

I cut with $25 - which is N11,000 + once every other 3 weeks - $20 for the cut, $5 for the tip

slawormiir:
Damnnn niggar
Isoright...


500 hundred naira and na im bros op dey complain

Ogbeni na 1000 we take dey barb for Benin city

lai ki u dia

amuwo1980:
What on earth made those boys kill this man ?

HE ALLOWED AKINTOLA TO OVERRUN THE WEST JUST TO PUNISH AWOLOWO - MASSIVE INSECURITY IN THE COUNTRY - ARSON, LOOTING, RAPE, MURDER AND CORRPTION - OKOTIE EBOH WAS THE MASCOT FOR EMBEZZLEMENT AND HE WAS FEDERAL MINISTER OF FINANCE - he will be spraying pounds in the air and the crowd will be chanting "omi mi ejoh" - The unjust imprisonment of Opposition leader Obafemi Awolowo and his disciples like Lateef Jakande, Anthony Enahoro, Bola Ige and others on the farcical charges of treasonable felony was a move to turn Nigeria into a one-party state where there will be no opposition just like under Nkrumah in Ghana and that is dangerous for a pluralistic society like Nigeria. These were some of the reasons

UstazAhmed:
Buhari should be fast about it. Its 3% for the host community and 30% for the frontier and that's final. We rule and reign in Nigeria

This reminds me of why and how Ironsi got killed by the decree 4 of 1966 -civil war loading

FarahAideed:
Shagari lived till his 90s yet some people will come and say cigarettes killed Davidos PA

you are right - being alive is just by the grace of God and not any human plan or over plan or mega plan or stuff - I have seen some obese people living until their 90's while slim people - was never obese becoming diabetic or dying from heart failure in their 40's and 50's

It makes one realize God has the final say in everything and everyone needs to be humble

onthehill:
https://igberetvnews.com/1395191/insecurity-police-officers-protest-unpaid-allowance-7-months-deployment-katsina-video/

misplaced priority

NPF is not a Katsina State asset but Federal - they should protest to the "lifeless" C-in-C or better to the "gay looking" IG Baba Adamu

GhostOfAPA:
I just wish political appointments were carried out in the same manner, Nigeria would have been peaceful by now....

thats to tell you Buhari destroyed Nigeria on purpose - he is an extremely evil man

and the National assembly was complicit - they approved the appointments without holding Buhari's feet to the fire on the Federal Character

all because they do not want EFCC on their case and to ensure they keep the flow of juicy allowances flowing

SageX1444:
This is the only normal thing I've seen in Nigeria- inclusiveness of traditional rulers in education.
I hope these kings and their aides won't resort to trading admission slots. While dumping names that merit the admission.

That is what they do - helping unqualified candidates gain admission - Chancellor List' no Jamb OR Waec result ? no problem

Then they will have 2 or 3 extremely beautiful kpekus who are students of the school - they do not need to go to class - all results na A's and a few B's not to raise suspicion - In return these ho es warm their beds in their guest rooms alm ost every other weekend

AntiChristian:
The person above me is an agent of Shaytan in human form. May all Shaytan in human form know no peace.

Alhamdulillah, Hajj is a pillar of Islam unlike those JP tourist.

May Allah grant us acceptable Hajj in the coming years!

Buhari is a Shaytan

tutudesz:
Just imagine Mr Pesido state no dey safe

Is Sudan a place in Katsina State ?

If Buhari is really the one in Aso Rock, the same Buhari who couldn’t wait for President Shagari to give order before he (as GOC 3rd Armored Division, Jos) took the fight to the Cameroonian Gendarmes in 1983 while trying to protect the old Gongola State (now Adamawa and Taraba States) ?

If that is the same Buhari in Aso Rock today, then Katsina his home state shouldn’t be overrun by foreign bandits since he is Commander in Chief and needs no permission from anyone to at least protect his own people....


My question is this - for all those who call it conspiracy theory that buhari is NOT the one in Aso Rock- how come his wife Aisha no longer lives with him ? My own take is that she could not subject herself to be sleeping with a man that is not her husband just to promote a lie by the cabal that the Buhari is still alive

Do you know what it takes for a woman to abandon her home ? Moreso, when her home in this case is the seat of government of the country?


Fingers crossed - many truths will soon emerge and one of such is the reason they are after MNK’s life- How he knew the man in Aso Rock is an impostor - so many things happening which is different from what meets the eyes!!!!

DoggoneDogg:
Which is why their strike will be swift and decisive.
US will be reduced to rubble in seconds before their Congress even reads the motion.

you surely have a comprehension problem

DoggoneDogg:
If they could, they would have. Like all bullies, the US is all noise & no balls.

Russia will reduce mainland USA to glass if they dare.

If Russia could defeat the US in war they would have done that yesterday, because they don’t have a congress to approve war, unlike the US - Putin is everything!

CodeTemplar:
Really? The guy appears to be a pained GEJ sympathizer. But that doesn't justify the pampering of jihadists.

How is he a pained GEJ sympathizer when he is engaged in a protest against GEJ’s government that they are not doing enough to stop the boko carnage and did you hear when he gave stern warning about the probability of Nigeria disintegrating of the Boko issue isn’t addressed properly ?

And that “IF” you love Nigeria, you should lend your voice to what they are doing there ?

Do you have comprehension issues or you are just blinded by hate for MNK?

This video will do more to convert more people to join MNK than alienate people from him because it clearly shows the man was not born with hate for Nigeria in his heart - He actually wanted Nigeria to work for everyone including his own Igbo people - He campaigned against the killings of people who are from the region now rejoicing that he is arrested - The North East and the entire Northern Nigeria!


If I was 60% in support of him, I think this video just made me love, respect and sign up for discipleship of his ideology 99.5%


He is really a good and intelligent man just who wants the best for his people - no questions asked!

Keziehenry:
Some of us was supporting this government before but what happened now, lots of things have changed. Is only a foolish man that doesn't change his mind

May God bless you - whoever dug up this video fails to realize that the only constant thing in life is change - This shows that the “monster” Nnamdi Kanu became was a result of Buhari’s misrule - The man didn’t hate Nigeria by default - he became what he is because of what changed - so nothing much to take from this video!

Ruggedniggaone:
Nigeria govt is an unfortunate govt and its being praised and supported by an unfortunate people for their unfortunate selfish interests,which I believe that it will later turn what they are seeing now as fortunate to unfortunate when buhari brother later descend on them.
Soldiers are being killed everyday in the North by bandits and bokoharam and i have never heard of any instances where they gave the villagers this kind treatment,soldiers are being killed by bandits along brinin ngwari to kaduna everyday and they knew that those thieves are coming from those villages around that area but they never storm there or subject them to this kind inhumane treatment.why always south?is south not part of Nigeria?why are we being treated like a slave or third class citizen in our own country?cow destroyed your farms heardmen are raping your sister,daughter and wives if you dare voice out against your oppressor,its either your oppressor results to violence and chase you out of your village and take over your land or terrorise you with the agent of state.
Buhari government is an unfortunate government!!!

your intelligent post was watered down by using the word “unfortunate” - no it’s EVIL - Buhari’s government is an EVIL government, full stop, end of sentence!