Yes i did...if you dont mention it they will find out....
And that wont be good for ur application either

Phakabir06:
please when you were filling the form online . Please the place where you they wrote if you have been refused visa in Canada or any other country . Please did you indicate you have been refused in usa ??

@justwise did you delete my last post

You asked to grow the thread yet my post was deleted while trying to help others...

I still dont understand the rationale...pls explain

UPDATE SO FAR ON MY JOURNEY

POE
Got into Canada about 2 weeks ago. There was serious wind storm on that day so the waiting time at the airport wasn't funny at all as they could not unload our luggage from the aircraft until after 3 hours. That aside the POE wasnt automated as some people mentioned on this thread. It was only automated for PRs and Canadians. For non-residents, there was another queue where you are questioned on why you are in Canada and for how long. Thankfully mine went well as i already indicated during my application that i wanted to avail childbirth in Canada. The immigration officer pulled out the info from their system and said i was correct and he even thanked me and said he was happy that people still tell the truth that a lot of people still lie to their faces. He said there is no crime in coming for child birth as long as you tell the Visa officer and you have the required funds to cover the birth. Got stamped in and he wished me the best.

DOCTOR'S VISIT
Finally had my first visit to the OBGYN i was referred to this week. Referral was done by a family physician from a walk in clinic. My advise is if you cant get an OBGYN by urself who accepts self pay patients, come into the country earlier and go into a walk in clinic to see a General physician who will then do the referral for you to several doctors. There will definitely be one who will take you. The only reason why it is good to look for the OBGYN yourself ahead of time is to make the referral and acceptance process easier and faster.

Family Physician consultation fee- $60
Had to do blood work and ultrasound which had to be sent to the OBGYN prior to my first visit to OBGYN
Ultrasound- $182
Blood Work- $94
OBGYN First visit- $200
Subsequent Visit will be $100 per visit
Doctors Delivery Fee (This varies from doctor to Doc Budget between 1600 and 2500 for VD) for doctors in Oshawa/Whitby Region

Hospital i will be using
Lakeridge Health Ajax Pickering (Rouge Valley Ajax Pickering)

Hospital Charge
$2000 for mother if in general ward (4 in a room)
$2285 for private ward
$100 bloodwork
If Ultrasounds are required ($300)

$620 baby charge
$100 bloodwork
If xrays are reqd $300.

This is all the info i have so far for those who need approx cost. and guidance on the process.

Special thanks to "The Specialist" who assisted me on this process. I am grateful, you deserve plenty Accolades

PS: you can look up the OBGYNs who practice in the hospital above and give them a call if they will be willing to take self pay patient and ask for their price. Then once you come into Canada, the referral process becomes easy.


Waiting for my LO to arrive.

Sorry for the long story- just trying to help as much as possible.

Hi Dazzing,

Congrats on the succesfful birth of your little one and thanks for sharing your experience here with us and the important tips you have given .

I am sure this will be useful for anyone looking to birth soon in canada.

I am preparing for my trip in the next couple of months to Oshawa and will come to share my experience by Gods grace,

Safe deliveries to all expectant mothers out there

Cheers

dazzing:
Dear forum contributors, thank you for sharing all your experiences. I have been a silent follower of this thread since July 2017, and I benefited greatly from the forum. I would like to share my own experience so others can benefit and particularly shed some light on areas that may not have been adequately covered in the forum.

First thing is that I read the entire forum discussion from page one until the fifties. I got my visa some years back, I was given till the end of my passport. I have been to Canada before, therefore when I went for birthing it wasn’t my first time in the country. I had an interesting experience as the hospital I registered and went for ANC is not the same hospital I delivered at, as my labour came unexpected in late night. There was a mild snow storm (December weather so expected) so we couldn’t drive to far to my original hospital, I went to the hospital closest to me which was the famous Brampton civic hospital. My original plan was Stevenson memorial in Alliston.

TIP 1: register in a hospital close to your house as anything can happen.

I rang the doctors whose details was shared on this forum and true to what has been mentioned, both Dr Grace and Dr Abou, said they do not take non-OHIP patients anymore. Dr Kayode still does, but I didn’t use him. I also rang the Amma mid-wives services and their fees is CAD 4600. This excludes the hospital fees if you do decide to have a hospital delivery, also I opted not to use them. Below is break down of my expenses:

Epidura – CAD 500
Doctor fees – CAD 2,350 (this is a combo of the doctor fees who did my check ups and the delivery fees on the day)
Hospital fees – Brampton 2600 (i.e. 200 registration, 400 baby, 2000 my hospital day fee) Stevenson 500 (registration fees for non-resident)
Baby check-up CAD 300 – (i.e. 50 for baby doctor fees after delivery, 200 full baby check-up at mother and child clinic, 50 for walk in centre baby check-up a few days after)
Total for the above medical is 6250

Other expenses include several uber trips. I was with a relative so my costs on that was covered I also had a friend who gave me some free ride when opportune, but we did have a CAD 450 bill for uber hospital visit just as an illustration of that particular expense.
Lifelab – CAD 107, tests for myself
TIP: Please do not do any ‘out of your way’ tests in Nigeria, cause it’s so expensive as rubella alone labs in Abuja were telling me between 35 and 45,000 naira.

Documents
Long and short certificate – CAD 35 & 25 respectively
Intl Canada passport – CAD 107 (hubby did go to Abuja consulate to sign a form)
Nigeria ETC – CAD 137 (includes my express post and return envelope cost). I got good service with them; I rang a few times to tell them it was real urgent as I applied for all my documents two weeks before my departure date. It took them two days to process and post back.

TIP 2: Clarification on applying long and short certificate on line.
I wish someone had told me that on the website I should just go ahead and fill out the form and pay the fees as there is no option for payment for expedited service for a new-born. I almost made an error and wasted money, but thankfully that was averted.
Pretty much what every other person has shared is the standard process for birthing in Brampton. I’ll say additional CAD 1000 for other expenses including documentation. It could be more for others, please note I stayed at a relative (so no cost for rent, feeding and Wi-Fi) and I had my phone line, so cost of that CAD 35 x four months (internet on this package was weak so you may have to get a more expensive option if you need solid internet for when you outside). Canada phone set cost CAD 80.

TIP 3: a phone line makes your ‘ubering’ experience easier.
Sorry this post is getting too long, I just wanted to put in as much as I could. I spent almost four months, and I just returned this early February. Also baby won’t get health card, expect resident in country for over 150 days. Best of Luck to other expectant mothers.

Start with the first thing by applying for the Visit VISA as early as you can.

Make sure to have all supporting docs to show proof that you can financially afford childbirth there and strong enough ties that you will return back home after your child birth. You can also submit proof that you paid fully for your childbirth care in the US when you had your first child as they may be wondering why you are not going for your second child in US. Find a way to mention that you wil be availing medical service in Canada on your application so all is clear to them.

While your appliation is ongoing, mkae sure you are researching Location to stay, and doctor at the same time as well as accomodateion etc. Dont wait till u get the visa before you start this process.

Wish you the best...

Mrsc22:
Congrats.

I am planning to have baby num 2 in Canada. I had baby num 1 in US.

Have u figured everything out? Accommodation, doctor and all

I still 8weeks. I want to start now. Wit Visa application and all. Please i need any info i can get.

Thanks

dserious:
@Hotstepper, The Specialist, Olalacious please could you kindly dm or email me please if you dont mind......I have been trying to email you through your profile but its not going, i dont know why.....please im begging o...

Hi,

At 36 weeks now, it seems a little tight to get an OB GYN that will accept you but its not impossible.

Please check for www.ratemds.com for possible obgyns in the area and start calling them to see if any of them can accept you as a self pay patient. If you are lucky, then immediately u get to Canada you can go to a walk-in clinic and ask them to refer you to the OBGYN that accepts you.

I wish you the best

Hi Omodun,

Can you please confirm if you eventually used Dr Grace Mariapillai and if you did when was that? I called their office and was surprised they mentioned they dont take self pay international patients.

Thanks for your feedback

Omodun:


Thanks Hotstepper

Thespecialist:


Olalacious,
I had replied you (providing some doctors name and info) but I honestly dont know why the “antispam bot” keeps banning me and deleting my replies.

Hi Thespecialist,

Can you send directly to my inbox then? Or i will send you a PM and then you can reply back on my mail.

Thanks!

Hello house
Just wanted to share my update....

I called the office of Dr Grace of Humber River yesterday and what i was told was they do not take cash payment anymore that i have to have get the OHIS /Health card when i am in canada before i can book appointment with them. Was a lil surprised as i though they attended to international patients as well as Hotstepper had earlier recommended.

I also called Dr kayode's office and got below Quote
3500 CAD (Dr's charge which which covers all hospital visits till delivery, the actual delivery and one post parturm visit at 6 weeks)
2000 CAD for one night in Hosital for Mother
600 CAD for one night for Baby

Does anyone has any other Doctor of Humber River that i can contact to check prices also before i finalize.

@TheSpecialist can you share your Oshawa doctor's name or contact?

Olalacious:


Hi Hotstepper,

Still waiting for your response, i have sent you mail.....biko, ejo thanks

Hi Hotstepper,

Do you have any direct contacts for accomodation in toronto? Either a 1 bedroom furnished or 2bedroom frunished that i can share as i also have someone who does not mind sharing with me. Appreciate your feedback.

OMOLOBA:
Hello Guys, Please i just got this message, can someone help with any explanation, I have not done medical screaming
", Visa application, Tracking Id No. – Your processed passport has been despatched from the Canada Visa Office Abuja-Ghana, on 22/11/2017 to the Canada Visa Application Centre. Please note this is an auto generated e-mail. Please do NOT reply to this email."

Means you will be getting your processed passport soon from VFS global. Congrats!!

Olalacious:


Hi Hotstepper,

I have sent you a mail and eagerly waiting for your reply

Hi Hotstepper,

Still waiting for your response, i have sent you mail.....biko, ejo thanks

Hotstepper:
didnt recieve it...nnemadumelu@yahoo.com

Hi Hotstepper,

I have sent you a mail and eagerly waiting for your reply

Hotstepper:


Congrats. PM me

Hi Hotstepper,

I tried sending you a PM but not sure how it works.

Please let me know if you receieve my message. I need your help as soon as possible. Thanks a lot

lovingT:

Hello Olalicious seems I can tap inspiration from your story though my question is also open to the house.
I am a first preggy lady already 12weeks gone...
Hubby and I applied for the US tourist visa and like you said got denied even before I realised we were interviewed. Now I was asked if I was pregnant in the interview and said YES.... big mistake.... anyway no documents were check or anything ..... was heartbroken cos the plan was to get the US tourist VISA for his nieces wedding in Dec then travel in April/ May for the birthing process.....

Since that wasn't possible decided to try the Canadian route. We have a relative there and wanted to apply for the tourist visa.....

Upon reading this thread however, I realised that US and Canadian embassy communicate and seems I cannot hide my pregnancy anymore in my visa application.

Oh plus I have Zero travel history .... I mean Zero so that's also not in my favour........

Well my question is Do I have any hope?? Cos I really want this

Thanks to anyone who reads and replies

Hi Loving T,

In order to boost your chances of getting a canada visa approved, you must show you have very well enough cash to pay for your medical. Your bank statement and current salary must echo that. Secondly, you must show strong ties that you will return after your intended visit. If you can echo these two points on your application, then you can mention medical and tourist in purpose of your visit.

At 12 weeks gone, time is running out but you can still try. Provide as much supporting docs as you can and hope for the best. Better to try than not try at all.

Wishing you all the best!!

Hello my people,

LONG POST ALERT!!!

Weldone and thanks to everyone keeping this thread alive

I don dey read this thread for the past two weeks (from page 1 oh), in fact the page is permanently opened on my browser and i just keep reading in my spare time plus taking a lot of screenshots for future reference
Like someone said, this thread should be a taking and also giving back thread (Not only taking without sharing your experience), I will start sharing my experience as it goes and will keep on updating as I progress on this journey.

In 2015 I applied for US tourist visa and got a 2year entry. At POE in US told CBP i was also going to have my baby in the US along with the vacation. Baby came, all bills paid got zero balance from doctor and hospital. Fast forward to 2017, myself and hubby wanted to renew the visa, VO said why didnt we declare in the first interview that we wanted to have baby in the US. Told the VO that the initial VO who interviewed us did not ask any question on that and the plan was only to visit. He would have any of our story. Long story short, he denied us the visa.

Then I decided to try the Canada route. Read this forum like crazy to understand how to go about the application especially when you have been denied a US visa. After a lot of reading and digesting, myself and hubby summoned courage to apply for the TR visa. Plan was that we would travel for a visit in December as a tourist and then use that opportunity to see if we could scout for a doc/Gynae/settle accommodation plans etc and then next year when baby is due will travel for child birth. We submitted the application (via Paper route) went to VFS to submit all the requested supporting docs. This was on 22nd Oct. Exactly 10 calendar days after submitting the application, hubby got a call from the Canada embassy. Basically he was asked for the reason why we were refused a US visa. He then clearly explained to the Canadian VO that we were not no sufficient ties back home. He also mentioned that we had our baby there as well but all the bills were paid in full. Apparently the Canadian embassy had also called the US embassy people to find out why we were not given the visa but they did not give any convincing answer to the Canadian embassy hence the reason the Canadian embassy called us to find out further. Also during the convo, the Canadian VO then asked my husband if I was currently pregnant. My husband said yes and that we plan to also have the baby there next year but the reason for the initial visit was for tourism. The Canadian VO was like it is not illegal or a crime to go to Canada to give birth. If you have sufficient fund to cover it, you would most likely be given. They even called my husband’s company HR manager to confirm if salary certificate which we provided was correct (no be small thing).

Long story short, he told us to send receipts of our medical bills in the US as well as the refusal document which was received from US embassy. We sent all the details to him and even put the US hospital and doctor’s contact info to call them if they have any doubts. Exactly one week after sending all the details, we received a mail from the Canadian embassy to come and drop our passports. Got our passports back today. Mine stamped Multiple entry till 2021 hubby till 2019 as passport expires in 2019.

My peace of mind is that I have clearly declared to the VO that I would be giving birth so I no get fear for POE issues.
In my opinion, Canada Embassy processes your VISA in a fairer manner than US. They take time to review your documents properly and then make a decision based on that. But US ehn, its like before you even show up at the embassy, they have already made a decision without checking your docs..

Now unto the next stage of preparation, Accommodation /OB GYN/Hospital to use. As I no get family for Canada, Ontario will be my best bet as I can see from people’s review on this thread that it seems to be a relatively less expensive to birth there. I will start contacting the hospitals and docs now.

@Hotstepper, please help a sister out. How can you assist with accommodation options available and which city do you recommend I stay in (Brampton or Toronto)? Which is easier to move around in? Do you have anyone I can contact in arranging accommodation for a 2 month period. Also I have contacts of Dr Ayodele and Dr Abou of Brampton hospital and I have the Dr Grace contact of humber river. I just need to understand if I should call the doctor first or the hospital first or do I have to first get a Family Doctor who will then refer me to the hospital/Doctor. As I don’t have family doctor, please help if you can refer me to someone. Thanks a lot and look forward to your feedback.

Any other preggy mama bound for Ontario around April/May 2018 who doesn’t mind sharing accommodation? I need to plan this waka well in advance.

Thanks a lot to everyone and wishing every mama out there a safe one!!!

cutelass:
Is anyone looking at the results coming out of the US election and it's direct impact to this thread?

To think that Trump is taking the lead is nerve wrecking....the impact of him winning on this thread no be for here
Fingers crossed
following the election results till the very end

Hi Kilan,

I live in UAE and had my baby in Houston early this year.

I got my VISA just when i was about 3months along. During the interview I wasnt asked if i was pregnant and at the time i had not finalized if i was going to give birth in the US so i there was no need to disclose this info.

I flew Delta via Atlanta to avoid Houston POE. Atlanta POE experience was a breeze..the CBP guy was even gisting with us.

All i can advise is to really research which city you want to stay, review the hospitals, seacrh for OB GYN attached to the hospitals, call and ask for self pay patients rates. get all the details, ask them to recommend accomodation around the hospital.

Houston is quite affordable...(in my opinion)

Wishing you the best...

kilam111:
Hi Good eve to all dear sis & members,
I'm a to be Jan-17 mom God willing (So far it is a normal 1st pregnancy without any complications),having B1/B2 multiple entrty visa till 2020(But not used it yet).currently living in UAE & wish a better passport(USA) for my baby..this is the only forum I hope to help & guide me.Pls

I believe you guys are mentioning Delivery in visa/CBP on medical ground to avail better medical care, But living in UAE & having UAE-insurance I cant say this...I'm confused that to hide my pregnancy or tell the truth to CBP/Embassy in advance?(& if to hide, which is best time to travel & what to tell to CBP?

& I have no family/friends in USA as such but I can afford delivery there, Any guidance which is best & most economical place in US for this?
If any1 from UAE have done it Pls PM me..
Regards & well wishes to all.

tundejoseph4:
i am planning to go to Dubai anytime soon. is there any one that can help me with any legal job there. i am a graduate of elect/elect engineering, but don't mind any job in Dubai, even if it is security i don't mind. thanks friends

Why would you want to settle for a security job as an elect elect graduate. I bet you, its not worth it.

The average salary of a security personnel here in UAE is 1200-1500 aed. you cant even afford to get a bed space with that talk less of saving anythin up for yourself. The standard of living here is ridiculously high.

I would suggest you look for something decent in Naija.

Hello to all new mamas as well as mamas to be!!!

I have been following this thread for a while now. I am Houston bound by 3rd week in January. Baby is due end of Febuary.

I am using WHMC with Dr La. Anyone else due in Feb and using WHMC?

POE is Atlanta, flying with Delta Airline.