₦airaland Forum

freeze001:
No one is trying to dominate anyone, I don't understand why you guys keep propagating this fallacy. Is it insecurity or what? Keep repeating a lie and before long you will believe it and actually start acting like it's happening. It is your people that bring unprovoked attacks. 2015 elections, Oba said any Igbo who did not vote Ambode would drown in the lagoon, why? Both candidates at the time sought the support of any one or group they could get across to which is normal. Why the special interest in Igbos? Now in 2019 it is even worse; Tinubu starts by reminding Nigerians how good Lagos has been to them like it's not part of Nigeria. Nobody quarreled or defied him yet he sent his goons and u all know wand support the terrible crimes perpetrated on 23 February.

No one can help your bias and pre-formed ideas though, ride on but at least we now know where we all stand so we will see where it takes us in this country.

You know this democracy is not a perfect one?it's a foreign way of government with custom designed in Nigeria using thuggery,rigging, manipulation, elimination of humans,and it's a winner take it all .its common sense to support the aspirations of the oba and local politicans,it's not difficult.this people increased the revenue of Lagos State,imagine what pdp will do,

freeze001:
You just keep going on and on about the East and Igbos. Are they the only ones that have traveled and still travel to Lagos. Do Yorubas not travel to other places too? Hypocrisy is evil...

So many ethnic groups in Lagos ,isokos,ijaws, ibibios,nupes,igala,hausas,non of these group make trouble or tell the people it's a no mansland and try to dominate them in their domain.

emonkey:
More sophisticated than Lagos ? Tell me how.

Your question is ridiculous!you cannot compare the civilization,the infastructural development,the education,the healthcare,the people and the politics with Lagos .we are in the 6or 7th republic and you can't compare.during the regional system here you must have lived and paid taxes for a period before you can vote or be voted for ,but you know the unitary has allowed people travel in a night bus from the east some where in Lagos on the line trying to vote along ethnic lines and not ideas and aspirations of the land owners

freeze001:
Again untrue. The Unification Decree No 34 did not completely destroy the regions. That was the sole handiwork of Yakubu Gowon who repealed the Decree 34 and then created the first 12 states with a military, central government.

Gowon who openly rejected unitary system of government for Nigeria eventually moved Nigeria to a height of unitary system never contemplated by Major Agui Ironsi who paid a supreme sacrifice for insisting that a military administration can only be unitary in nature.

freeze001:
Again untrue. The Unification Decree No 34 did not completely destroy the regions. That was the sole handiwork of Yakubu Gowon who repealed the Decree 34 and then created the first 12 states with a military, central government.

This marked the birth of unitary system in Nigeria and the death of Federalism. He, however, pointed out that the Decree was to be entirely a transitional measure.

The Northern Political elites and the Northern traditional institution opposed the letter and the spirit of the Decree 34. and expressed their opposition to the Decree 34 of Gen. Ironsi.

freeze001:
Again untrue. The Unification Decree No 34 did not completely destroy the regions. That was the sole handiwork of Yakubu Gowon who repealed the Decree 34 and then created the first 12 states with a military, central government.

On May 24, 1966, General Ironsi restructured the country along a unitary system by promulgating Decree No. 34. The Decree amongst other things said – ‘Nigeria shall on the 24th May 1966 … cease to be a Federation and shall accordingly as from that day be a Republic by the name of the Republic of Nigeria …’ Please note he did name Nigeria REPUBLIC OF NIGERIA not FDERAL MILITARY GOVERNMENT.

freeze001:
Again untrue. The Unification Decree No 34 did not completely destroy the regions. That was the sole handiwork of Yakubu Gowon who repealed the Decree 34 and then created the first 12 states with a military, central government.

The military, illegally, subverted the 1963 Constitution by taking over power from the elected Governments in Jan. 1966 through a coup d’état. Major-General Agui Ironsi became the first military ruler in Nigeria in Jan 1966 in a dramatic fashion.

freeze001:
Again untrue. The Unification Decree No 34 did not completely destroy the regions. That was the sole handiwork of Yakubu Gowon who repealed the Decree 34 and then created the first 12 states with a military, central government.

The indigenous founding fathers of Nigeria after considering many options settled for a Federal Constitution for Nigeria. The 1960 Independence and the 1963 Republican Constitutions were Federal Constitution. Nigeria could be said to have operated a Federal Constitution from 1960 to 1966.

emonkey:
I am sure you didn't know the Mayor of London is Asian

London is more sofisticated than Lagos ,and you will sliently drop dead if you provoke their aspirations.how ever,Lagos appointmented an igbo commissioner and it has igbos in it's civil service and other agencies.

freeze001:
And even if you hear stories of such a statement, has anyone come to drag the Lagos? Is it not conducive environment, peace and favourable policies that everyone is praying and hoping for? So why the over sensitivity and touchiness? Is it just an excuse to elevate some misplaced sense of tribal superiority or what? Is it no man's land rhetoric that justifies the harassment during elections?

You have to respect the political aspirations of the local politicans.you can't have you own plans

freeze001:
Again untrue. The Unification Decree No 34 did not completely destroy the regions. That was the sole handiwork of Yakubu Gowon who repealed the Decree 34 and then created the first 12 states with a military, central government.

This was after the civil war and not before the war,ironsi centralized after the coup.

freeze001:
Again untrue. The Unification Decree No 34 did not completely destroy the regions. That was the sole handiwork of Yakubu Gowon who repealed the Decree 34 and then created the first 12 states with a military, central government.

Lol!a system was in place and destroyed,gowon learnt from you people.

[quote author=freeze001 post=76343472]And those humans include Igbos right? Now we're talking! It is a combined effort and nobody has the right to put down or attack another just because of tribal/ethnic differences. Let's all be civil and flourish whilst demanding good governance over god-fatherism that has been the bane of Nigeri's existence with old, greedy men that will not leave politics and let the mostly young generation breathe! What is the fight for sef! Will anybody carry Lagos to their graves? When we die, apart from family and immediate areas of impact/influence will Lagos disappear from the map?
Humans in government of Lagos State and the multinational companies .

[quote author=freeze001 post=76343590]This is a fairly ignorant statement. Read more broadly, don't be caught in a web of contrived ignorance[/quote
]I know you are trying to claim other people,s land,Calabar port?onne?is that yours

freeze001:
Simply because they migrated for a reason like you said. They will still travel around, be in constant touch with their kith and kin in the East and other regions whilst they work in Lagos where they have seen or created business opportunities for themselves. Is there a crime in there somewhere that I do not see? Are some Yorubas not members of parliament in the UK? Are they coming back to yoruba land for any reason? Same applies to Igbos too, all over the world so stop acting like your people do not also migrate or are not resident in other parts of the country including the East.

A Yoruba person can't tell the English,that London is no mansland.

freeze001:
You first started with shops which are products of private/personal enterprise. You know the Igbos/Easterners have this area covered to a Tee. The establishment and running of sea and airports are government functions. If they do not exist in the East where there is clear, ample opportunity for same, that is the failure of governance which we all rail and shout about. That Lagos was a former seat of government and now Abuja should explain to you why there is so much government presence in these cities; it is the largest employer of labour and spender of money so naturally, you will have a crowd. Why won't diligent and adventurous Easterners migrate to these areas to take for themselves what they are entitled to? At least they work and earn theirs, building their zones by mainly personal efforts unlike others who indolently wait to have it handed over by government. What are the poverty/underdevelopment indices in Nigeria today even with the government presence/intervention you are boasting with now in your areas?

Multinational businesses? You have to ask about in the East? Then like I said, travel and see. You are not well travelled if you had to ask these questions. Stop using opportunities of the central government which should serve all Nigerians to score points because there is more focus on some areas than others.

Lagos is the 4th largest economy in Africa,human beings made it happen.it was not because it was a former capital.

freeze001:
You first started with shops which are products of private/personal enterprise. You know the Igbos/Easterners have this area covered to a Tee. The establishment and running of sea and airports are government functions. If they do not exist in the East where there is clear, ample opportunity for same, that is the failure of governance which we all rail and shout about. That Lagos was a former seat of government and now Abuja should explain to you why there is so much government presence in these cities; it is the largest employer of labour and spender of money so naturally, you will have a crowd. Why won't diligent and adventurous Easterners migrate to these areas to take for themselves what they are entitled to? At least they work and earn theirs, building their zones by mainly personal efforts unlike others who indolently wait to have it handed over by government. What are the poverty/underdevelopment indices in Nigeria today even with the government presence/intervention you are boasting with now in your areas?

Multinational businesses? You have to ask about in the East? Then like I said, travel and see. You are not well travelled if you had to ask these questions. Stop using opportunities of the central government which should serve all Nigerians to score points because there is more focus on some areas than others.

People migrate for a reason,and every night 5 igbos land in Lagos and never going back.

freeze001:
You first started with shops which are products of private/personal enterprise. You know the Igbos/Easterners have this area covered to a Tee. The establishment and running of sea and airports are government functions. If they do not exist in the East where there is clear, ample opportunity for same, that is the failure of governance which we all rail and shout about. That Lagos was a former seat of government and now Abuja should explain to you why there is so much government presence in these cities; it is the largest employer of labour and spender of money so naturally, you will have a crowd. Why won't diligent and adventurous Easterners migrate to these areas to take for themselves what they are entitled to? At least they work and earn theirs, building their zones by mainly personal efforts unlike others who indolently wait to have it handed over by government. What are the poverty/underdevelopment indices in Nigeria today even with the government presence/intervention you are boasting with now in your areas?

Multinational businesses? You have to ask about in the East? Then like I said, travel and see. You are not well travelled if you had to ask these questions. Stop using opportunities of the central government which should serve all Nigerians to score points because there is more focus on some areas than others.

Your area is not an investment friendly destination for foreigners

freeze001:
You first started with shops which are products of private/personal enterprise. You know the Igbos/Easterners have this area covered to a Tee. The establishment and running of sea and airports are government functions. If they do not exist in the East where there is clear, ample opportunity for same, that is the failure of governance which we all rail and shout about. That Lagos was a former seat of government and now Abuja should explain to you why there is so much government presence in these cities; it is the largest employer of labour and spender of money so naturally, you will have a crowd. Why won't diligent and adventurous Easterners migrate to these areas to take for themselves what they are entitled to? At least they work and earn theirs, building their zones by mainly personal efforts unlike others who indolently wait to have it handed over by government. What are the poverty/underdevelopment indices in Nigeria today even with the government presence/intervention you are boasting with now in your areas?

Multinational businesses? You have to ask about in the East? Then like I said, travel and see. You are not well travelled if you had to ask these questions. Stop using opportunities of the central government which should serve all Nigerians to score points because there is more focus on some areas than others.

Lagos is building lekki seaport ,ondo is building a sea port,what are you people doing?is the money federal money ?lekki airport,is state owned,lekki sea port.

freeze001:
You first started with shops which are products of private/personal enterprise. You know the Igbos/Easterners have this area covered to a Tee. The establishment and running of sea and airports are government functions. If they do not exist in the East where there is clear, ample opportunity for same, that is the failure of governance which we all rail and shout about. That Lagos was a former seat of government and now Abuja should explain to you why there is so much government presence in these cities; it is the largest employer of labour and spender of money so naturally, you will have a crowd. Why won't diligent and adventurous Easterners migrate to these areas to take for themselves what they are entitled to? At least they work and earn theirs, building their zones by mainly personal efforts unlike others who indolently wait to have it handed over by government. What are the poverty/underdevelopment indices in Nigeria today even with the government presence/intervention you are boasting with now in your areas?

Multinational businesses? You have to ask about in the East? Then like I said, travel and see. You are not well travelled if you had to ask these questions. Stop using opportunities of the central government which should serve all Nigerians to score points because there is more focus on some areas than others.

You don't have access to the sea and no land border with any country.its a fact

freeze001:
You first started with shops which are products of private/personal enterprise. You know the Igbos/Easterners have this area covered to a Tee. The establishment and running of sea and airports are government functions. If they do not exist in the East where there is clear, ample opportunity for same, that is the failure of governance which we all rail and shout about. That Lagos was a former seat of government and now Abuja should explain to you why there is so much government presence in these cities; it is the largest employer of labour and spender of money so naturally, you will have a crowd. Why won't diligent and adventurous Easterners migrate to these areas to take for themselves what they are entitled to? At least they work and earn theirs, building their zones by mainly personal efforts unlike others who indolently wait to have it handed over by government. What are the poverty/underdevelopment indices in Nigeria today even with the government presence/intervention you are boasting with now in your areas?

Multinational businesses? You have to ask about in the East? Then like I said, travel and see. You are not well travelled if you had to ask these questions. Stop using opportunities of the central government which should serve all Nigerians to score points because there is more focus on some areas than others.

Igbos created unitary system and centralization,the reason was to control and dominate others,but today you writing centralization as if you are innocent.

freeze001:
Travel and see...don't be locked down in propaganda and myopia plus ur typically inbred fears to explore and break new horizons. Travel and see, it is one Nigeria, go and visit other areas, don't stay stuck in your region and think you can actually speak of/for others.

I have travelled far and wide and I know what an writing about,opportunities are limited,no access to sea or land border,only one international airport and not has busy busy has Lagos or Kano or abuja.how many multinational companies are there in the east?you people are so scattered everywhere trying to claim other peoples land.very low GDP ,they contribute less to the national purse,very small land size,high literacy rate among women,low literacy rate among men.they will like to live and die in lagos

freeze001:
It is the need to expand and grow well beyond tribal/ethnic shores. There are millions of shops in every shape, size and with every merchandise in the East. My people must have branches and headquarters everywhere to meet the needs identified and make cool money too. The Constitution also guarantees them the right to move to/stay and own property anywhere in line with extant laws. Is there a problem? Those shops you attempt to denigrate constitute some of the buildings you wish to claim. Calm down, you will not stop being Yoruba, Igbos will remain Igbos and Lagos will remain Lagos.

The east is a dry land with limited opportunities,this you reason is a lie you cannot survive and live well in the east

ola6:
The Jagaban!!!!

I didn't love him but now, this is who the Yoruba race needs!!! Awolowo version 2.0*


I don't know you but I love you my Jagaban. Just make sure you remain humble - least I forget, you bleeped up by not voting GEJ(another hero of mine) but all sins are forgiven.

GeJ had the opportunity to open discussions with him and form an alliance.,but he had baifrans around him given stupid advise

TheFreeOne:
Banning a sitting governor from rallies.

How can such be possible

Strategy

Putinofrussia:
I think we should all stop this instigation and pray for peace in Nigeria.

You don't need prayers ,because this episode can hasten biafra for you people.the country is not working.we need to get this thing started .

Emary:
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Even Oba Akiolu admits that Lagos is not Yoruba land. Jokes on who now?

The Idejo class of chiefs in Lagos are of Awori origin. They are the land-owning class of chiefs. They owned Olumegbon (the whole of Ajah belonged to the Olumegbon chieftaincy family); Oniru (the whole of Victoria Island); Ojomu, next door to Ajah (there is Oba Ojomu now); Elegushi (the land being at Ikate); the Onisemo. The whole of Apapa Peninsula used to belong to the Oluwa family. The British compulsorily acquired the whole of Apapa and paid compensation to them. The Ojora of Lagos (that is Ijora) were the original settlers

Lammyz:
The first storey building in Nigeria was built in Marina, Badagry in 1845, long before some of hinterland people gave up the idea of conical mud houses with thatched roofs which some boastfully called 'ancient mansions.' How can you now claim your grand-sires developed Lagos? Please if you are one of those spreading the fiction, I expect you to desist from self-delusion and collective amnesia forthwith.

People existed before colonialism, civilization is not the same has buildings, civilization is development.

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Even Oba Akiolu admits that Lagos is not Yoruba land. Jokes on who


The Idejo class of chiefs in Lagos are of Awori origin. They are the land-owning class of chiefs. Olumegbon (the whole of Ajah belonged to the Olumegbon chieftaincy family); Oniru (the whole of Victoria Island); Ojomu, next door to Ajah (there is Oba Ojomu now); Elegushi (the land being at Ikate); the Onisemo. The whole of Apapa Peninsula used to belong to the Oluwa family. The British compulsorily acquired the whole of Apapa and paid compensation to them. The Ojora of Lagos (that is Ijora) were the original settlers]

PresidoAtikuGcf:
Let the war begin. I want this to be so bloody that Afonjas will either call for their odoluduwa Republic or give Igbos their due respect in Lagos State. I for one won't sit back and watch, I'd be fully involved and committed in the war front. The 'zoo' is finally coming to a wrap.

You people are just terrible !we should give respect you deserve in Lagos,.

Chipink:
U are not thinking rationally.
U can't blatantly say it's a lie, u ain't in his mind

Pls I'm done with u on this particular issue.

He himself was a product of an unrestructured country,he made his money in the west.assuming it was regional system,the money he made would have been made by a Yoruba man from the west.can he become a billionaire in adamawa within few years.He knows what you don't know ,so he will never do any restructuring.He was in government and didn't do it,obj didn't ,GEJ did not,na atiku go do am.

[quote author=Chipink post=76316024]What u needed to do was just to give him a chance.
U can't know is on his mind, so u can't he won't restructure..
Giving him a chance and voting him out when he failed.. was the reasonable thing to do. [/quote
It's a lie ,even APC has restructuring on its manifesto,they have not done it,they said we should restructure our head,how much more atiku,who spent many years in govt .it's 419 please!