Temitoppe:


twentythirded

subnormal:
This line about aliens coming to mine gold for their atmosphere, in the ancient past, is widely repeated by Ancient Astronaut theorists. In fact it’s become something of a foundational idea in the movement. This idea traces directly back to Zecharia Sitchin and has absolutely nothing to do with Sumerian texts.

It’s interesting to note that Sitchin doesn’t even give a place in the Sumerian texts to justify this notion that they needed gold for their atmosphere. He says the following in his book “The Wars of Gods and Men”:

“The metal, with its unique properties, was needed back home for a vital need, … as best as we can make out, this vital need could have been for suspending the gold particles in Nibiru’s waning atmosphere and thus shield it from critical dissipation.” (emphasis mine)

So he says ‘as best as we can make out’. Who is ‘we’? And what texts would even hint at that idea. He creates this idea of gold particles being needed in a planet’s atmosphere out of nowhere.

Nowadays you can do a word search for the uses of the word “gold” in the Sumerian texts.[11] We can read every mention of this word.

Not only are the mentions of the word gold relatively few in the Sumerian texts, there is nothing to indicate anything but the most ordinary uses for gold[12]. In fact It’s a surprisingly boring study.

Thanks to meticulous cataloging of the Sumerian texts over the last few decades, and the advent of the internet, we no longer have to take people like Sitchin’s word for it.

Heiser: “There are some databases online that allow you to search through Sumerian texts, and I have a video on my website sitchiniswrong.com. If you go there and click on the Annunaki tab I will show you how to search through something called the electronic text corpus of Sumerian literature. I will show you how you can search for all the occurrences of the word Annunaki and then click through the English translations of all those occurrences. You can find this material and I would encourage you to do so because you can check up on Zecharia Sitchin; you can check up on me.

When I claim that there are no texts [and] there are no tablets that have, for instance, the Annunaki on Nibiru or associated with Nibiru; that Nibiru isn’t a planet beyond Pluto, how easy would it be to prove me wrong if you knew how to search for those terms? It would be real easy, and I encourage you to check up on me and everybody else and do the work. You can access this material and know who’s telling you the truth.”

We can finally see for ourselves why the Sumerian scholars have been so critical of Sitchin, not because they are too close minded or anything like that, but because Sitchin really doesn’t seem to know what he is talking about.

Let me give you an example of how Sitchin comes up with his “amazing” translations.

Let’s take this idea that the Sumerian texts speak of mining gold. Now since the Sumerian texts do not speak of mining gold in any way, Sitchin has to construct this idea out of thin air. This is how he did it:

Let’s look at a quote from his first book “The Twelfth Planet”:

“Some Mesopotamian hymns to Ea exalt him as Bel Nimiki, translated “lord of wisdom”; but the correct translation should ‘undoubtedly be “lord of mining.”

In classic Sitchin style he never gives any reason that the “correct translation should ‘undoubtedly be “lord of mining.” He just says it should be and leaves it at that.

Again, we have Sumerian dictionaries written by the scribes themselves, and the Sumerians don’t agree with Sitchin here at all, so why should we?

I think one way to demonstrate how bad of a translation this is, is to read a little about Ea’s or Enki’s wisdom in context, and let you see if it makes sense to you as meaning wisdom or if it really means mining.

This is an example from a Sumerian text called Enuma Elish:

HE WHO UNDERSTANDS ALL
The Wise One,
The Great One,
EA who Knows ALL THAT IS,
Perceived the Plot.
He countered it
With a Powerful Spell.

Not only does it describe his wisdom further by saying “he who understands all” but it also says that because of this wisdom he was able to perceive a plot before it happened and counter it. None of what we just read makes sense if “wisdom” means mining.

Or from the same epic:

EA,
Who knows ALL THINGS,
Knew he could not Defeat
KINGU and the Hosts of TIAMAT.

Here again we see a contextual definition of Ea’s knowledge. He knows all again, and we see this knowledge helped him understand that he could not defeat Kingu.

These are not isolated descriptions of this knowledge; Ea is the god of wisdom for a reason. Nothing said about him makes sense if his knowledge means mining, or even knowledge about mining. All the stories about him highlight his great understanding, and conversely there isn’t even a hint that he cares a lick about digging for gold or anything else…it’s just not there. It requires an ignorance of the Sumerian texts in order to be believed.

Let’s move on to another claim about the Annunaki:

AA: “Virtually every story that’s in Genesis – the flood story, the Adam and Eve story – all have precedents with the ancient Sumerians. The story that came down to the Sumerians is that the Annunaki were mining gold on the Earth and the run-of-the-mill workers complained saying: ‘This is really hard work and we’re tired. We don’t want to do this anymore’ and so they had a big council and they decided to create a primitive worker called an Adamou. The Annunaki created humans as a slave species.”

The first thing to be aware of here is that in the epic of creation that they are referring to here, the God’s weren’t mining gold. The work that the gods were doing is creating the world, kind of what you would expect from a creation epic.

It even specifically states that they were making mountains and rivers, such as the Tigris and Euphrates. [13]The gods here were tired of creating the earth not gold mining.

The epic goes on to describe the following events:

· The gods decide to mix up themselves with clay and make man.
· As the version of men they made increased in number, the noise they made angered the gods.
· They decide to kill them off with a flood.
· One man is instructed to build a boat.
· He put animals on it.
· It rains for seven days and seven nights.
· The man and his family are saved.

There are many similarities between these Sumerian writings and to the biblical accounts of the creation of man and Noah’s flood.

Some people think this is due to the writers of the Bible copying the earlier Sumerian writings. This is problematic because even the critics who specialize in this style of ancient literature say there is no evidence of literary borrowing[14], in fact just the opposite. They propose that they must be referring to a common source for the information.

One paper by A. Heidel, A.R. Millard and D. Damrosch concludes this way:

“Literary dependence cannot be demonstrated. Here, as in most of the parallels in the primeval history, it is considered more likely that Mesopotamian and biblical traditions are based on a common source. Some understand this common source to be a piece of more ancient literature, while others consider it the actual event.’ Hill & Walton, ‘A Survey of the Old Testament’, p. (2010).

Add to this that it is not just the Sumerian texts and the bible that are talking about the same basic story, but obvious elements of this story can be found in almost every early culture, regardless of its location.

Take for example the story of Viracocha in South America.

Viracocha created the heavens and the earth. He then took large stones and breathed life into them. But they became giants, so he sent a flood to wipe them out. After the flood he breathed into smaller stones than the first time thereby creating smaller people, which were then scattered all over the world.[15]

And in the bible, in Genesis 6 we see something similar. The Sons of God disobeyed God, they came to earth had sex with human women, producing giants called Nephilim. The Nephilim over time almost eliminated the original human population, and this is one of the reasons that God sent the flood.[16]

These stories are found in some form in cultures as geographically separated as you can get. They are in China, Europe, the Middle East, they are found in Native American traditions, in South America and many others.xvii

The similarities are too obvious to simply dismiss. Things like 8 people being on the boat are mentioned in a good percentage of these stories.[17]

I personally think that all these cultures are drawing from the same original story, a story that was told only one way, and that as migrations happened from this original group they started adding in details that were more locally important to them. But that each of these cultures sincerely believed they were passing on the true account of the origin of humanity to their descendants as this story was told.

Ironically if you take it at face value, if there was really a flood and all people except for the ones on the boat were destroyed, and if most modern cultures were descended from them, the fact that the entire world seems to have inherited the same story would make sense, because they essentially had the same eight ancestors who experienced such a dramatic event, and made it a point to pass the story to each generation.

I propose that something like this really did happen in ancient history. I don’t see any logical way around it. The question I have is which, if any of these accounts, is closest to the truth?

Ancient Aliens tells us that the Sumerian version is closest to the truth because they were recorded earlier. That makes sense to a point, but we have to remember that the events described in the Sumerian texts were still ancient history to the Sumerians. So the question is not so much about the date of the writing, but rather their ability to preserve the story.

I’ll give you a few very good reasons to seriously doubt that the Sumerian accounts should be given more weight where they differ from the others.

The first is that the Sumerians stories are not logically consistent.

Take for example that in both the Sumerian and Biblical accounts, dimensions for the boat are given.

The mere fact that an important part of this story is the dimensions of the boat is interesting, but when you draw out the dimensions, you have on the one hand the Sumerian boat, being a big cube, and the biblical one being described by naval engineers as nearly perfect for maintaining stability without hull damage in incredibly rough seas.[18]

Another reason not to trust the Sumerian texts where they differ from the others is that, as every Sumerian scholar knows, the Sumerians constantly change the details of their stories to suit the different situations.

For example, texts of the same story found in the temple of Enki will differ from ones found in the temple of Innana, even if they are from the same time period, but especially if they’re from a different time period. To quote one Sumerian scholar:

“Inconsistencies are a regular feature of Sumerian poetry.”

He goes on to say that “integration of different texts [by the Sumerian scribes] often appear somewhat careless.”[19]

Compare that with the ancient Hebrew scribes, who were notorious for taking their job ultra-seriously. They had many rules that governed their coping of their sacred texts. For example, it is said that they would have to speak every letter out loud before committing it to paper.[20][21]

One example of a vindication of this meticulous attention to detail is with the Isaiah scroll found in the Dead Sea scrolls.

The earliest copies of the Hebrew Old Testament before the Dead Sea Scrolls were the Masoretic texts which were copied between the years 600-1000AD. So the Isaiah scroll, one of the best preserved scrolls, would be a way to prove or disprove if their scriptures had been faithfully copied by the scribes during the previous 800 years. As it turned out they did a flawless job and the Hebrew scribes were vindicated.[22][23]

So when deciding which texts are more accurate as it relates to their accounts of ancient events it is far more logical to assume that the group with a tradition of accurate preservation and transmission of their texts should be given more weight than a culture like the Sumerians who seemed to have little interest in the accurate transmission of the details of their stories.

To sum up, almost everything that Ancient Aliens says about the Annunaki is untrue, which is not surprising considering they copy and pasted almost everything in this section from the books of Zecharia Sitchin.

For more information about Sitchin’s errors in his translations of the Sumerians and Arkaddian texts, I will direct you to the excellent website of doctor Michael Heiser ‘Sitchiniswrong.com’.

Source... http://ancientaliensdebunked.com/references-and-transcripts/anunnaki/

Daewoods:
I'm beginning to hate Africans and Africa seriously.
It's filled with the most useless, ignorant, religious, wicked and foolish set of people majorly. Really wished that continent can be nuked!

Truth is always constant even if all the useless, myopic, religious black monkeys reject it..

For once in your miserable lives,, think, read, ask questions and try to know the truth,, everything in life does not revolve around your religion, pastor, church, mosque. I'm really tired!

hopefulLandlord:

What about the Vagyna?
Or you think only males masturbate?

Nigayoyo:
I'm pretty sure the op struggles with jerking off A sensible God wouldn't give you a d.ick before marriage if he didn't want you to enjoy sex before marriage.

Millerz:
Lol...its very disheartening to see "supposed" Christians totally blinded by the devil. Everything the O.P talks about is biblical. The bible is not a newspaper that you just read anyhow. You need the holy spirit to discern some truth to you while studying the bible.

No wonder youths now prefer going to new generation churches that preach what they want to hear. Masturbation is a grievous sin against your body and against God. Sexual sins are the worst sins.

In my case, I learnt first hand the negative effects of masturbation. Yes, I learnt from experience. I used to masturbate and as a result I started experiencing many unusual things (I won't mention them here) which I knew were a result of masturbation.

O.P stop wasting your time. Experience is the best teacher. Allow them to experience it first hand, that would clear any doubt's.

Sirhethat12:

You reek of ignorance! get ready to tell this to your future "innocent little baby girl" , no be swear oooo its just reality!

fratermathy:


Please and please, don't molest those kids. They have no hands in your plight. If you do anything to them, remember that you may have kids of your own some day, if you don't already have.

Let us leave retribution for universal justice to handle. The universe is not blind like Ubi Jus... IT SEES ALL!

Rapmoney:
The height at which people have gone to all in the name of taking selfies is alarming! Very soon, we will start seeing people taking selfies while they are dying! To me, this is a complete disrespect for God...no fear sef?

4everGod1:


Oga read this
http://www.thereligionofpeace.com/pages/quran/violence.aspx

Then come back and tell me if Muhammad was not a tongue twister.

CAPSLOCKED:
I STARTED TO IMAGINE LIFE & DEATH FROM THE TIME I WAS 7. OR EVEN 5.
LOST MY DAD WHEN I WAS 2MONTHS OLD SO IT WASN'T TOO BRILLIANT FOR ME.

WAS BORN A CATHOLIC, GREW UP AN ALTER BOY, FROM PRIMARY SCHOOL DAYS TO SEC.

I WAS EVEN SENT TO A MINOR SEMINARY, EVEN AS AN ONLY SON. ALTHOUGH I REALLY WANTED TO BE A MONK SO BAD.. . BUT THE THOUGHT OF BEING AN ONLY SON MADE THE CHOICE OF PRIESTHOOD A LITTLE MANAGEABLE.

FROM THE TIME I WAS A KID I ALREADY HAD PERSONAL ISSUES WITH GOD THO I FEARED AND BELIEVED IN HIM, BUT WHY CHOOSE TO TAKE AWAY MY DAD LEAVING ME AND MY TWO SISTERS TO THE MERCY OF NOBODY, WHAT DID I OR MY PARENTS DO TO DESERVE THIS, I THOUGHT. ..

AT 11, WE LOST MUMSY.

OUT OF ALL THE BAD PEOPLE MAKING THIS WORLD BAD, THIS GUY CHOSE TO TAKE MY PARENTS.. . WHY?
TO LET WE INNOCENT KIDS SUFFER, FOR WHAT REASON NAW, TOT HE'S A LOVELY BEING? ?

I CONTINUED TO FEEL DISAPPOINTED WITH GOD BUT STILL PRAYED WITH HIM OUT OF FEAR THAT I MIGHT DIE A PAINFUL DEATH AND GO TO HELL.

IN 2012, I STOPPED CARRYING MUCH OF CHRISTIANITY IN MY HEART CUZ I COULDN'T IMAGINE OTHER PEOPLE GOING TO HELL AND JUST WE CHRISTIANS GOING TO HEAVEN.

I STOPPED BELIEVING IN JESUS THOUGH I FELT IT WAS RELEVANT TO STILL BELIEVE IN GOD.
BUT NOTHING REASONABLE WAS WORKING FOR I AND MY TWO SISTERS.

DESPITE TAKING AWAY OUR PARENTS THE GUY DIDN'T STILL WANNA MAKE US BE COMFORTABLE, MY BIG SISTER PRAYED AND FASTED FOR 7 YEARS BEFORE GAINING ADMISSION INTO SCHOOL. ..BY THEN MOST OF THE PEOPLE WHO WERE SUPPOSED TO SPONSOR HER HAD ALREADY DIED. LOL, I WAS IN JS1 WHEN SHE FINISHED SEC, SO YOU SEE THE REALLY WIDE MARGIN BETWEEN OUR AGES.


MEHN.. I CONTINUED TO PRAY TO THIS MAN UNTIL LAST YEAR, BUT BEFORE THEN I STOPPED GOING TO CHURCH AND ENGAGING IN RELIGIOUS ACTIVITIES.
I JUST DECIDED ITS NOT POSSIBLE THAT A LOVELY CREATOR WILL LET ME KNOW SADNESS FROM THE TIME I WAS A TODDLER... DOING HARM TO MY FAMILY ALL IN THE NAME OF GOD'S WILL.
MEANWHILE LETTING POOR KIDS SUFFER AND DIE ALL AROUND THE WORLD, LETTING THE WICKED ONES PROSPER EVEN MORE, AND EVEN MAKE HEAVEN IF THEY REPENT ON THEIR DEATH BED.

EVERY THING BECAME SMOOTER FOR ME WHEN I STARTED THINKING AND LOOKING OUTSIDE THE "RELIGION BOX" AND LIFE HAS BEEN EXTREMELY FAIR WITH ME SINCE I STARTED TO WORSHIP IT AND ADORE NATURE.

AS I 😘A KID I LOVED TO READ ABOUT SPACE.. THEN I DIDN'T EVEN THINK IT'S POSSIBLE TO CREATE 9 OR MORE OR LESS PLANETS AND FILL JUST THIS ONE WITH HUMANS. EVEN AFTER DESTROYING THE WORLD BY FLOODING WHY DIDN'T HE JUST RELOCATE NOAH TO SATURN OR RECREATE A NEW MAN ON JUPITER?
HOW WILL AN ALL KNOWING GOD WHO ALREADY KNOWS THE FUTURE, NOT KNOW THAT ADAM WILL EAT THE FORBIDDEN FRUIT.. .. WHY DIDN'T HE REMOVE THE TREE FROM THERE? OR WHY DID HE FORM VEXED AND CURSE THEM WHEN HE ALREADY KNEW THEY WERE GON FCK UP.

HE KNEW CAN WAS GON KILL ABEL, WHY DID HE LET IT HAPPEN ONLY TO FORM VEX AS USUAL, AND CURSE CAIN AND HIS GENERATION.

MEHN I SAW A LOT OF THINGS AS IMPOSSIBLE AND ABSURD IN THE BIBLE AS A KID BUT COULDN'T STOP PRETENDING TO PRAY BECAUSE OF FEAR OF HELL.

WHEN I WAS A TEEN I'LL EVEN ADD IT TO MY PRAYERS. .. I'LL BE LIKE "LORD YOU SEE DEEP DOWN MY MIND, YOU KNOW I REALLY DOUBT AND DISLIKE YOU BUT I'M SCARED OF HELL AND CAN'T STOP DOUBTING YOU CUZ I DON'T SEE ANY REASON TO BELIEVE YOU, BUT PLEASE HAVE MERCY"!

INCASE YOU READING THIS GIBBERISH JUST KNOW I TYPED IT ABSENT MINDED.
PARDON THE IMPROPER GRAMMAR USE AND LACK OF PUNCTUATION I'M JUST TYPING CUZ ITS THE ONLY THING TO DO ON NL..


BUT I DON'T LIKE TO BE CALLED AN ATHEIST, I DON'T LIKE TITLES AND STUFF, I JUST LIVE LIFE BELIEVING IN LIFE, LOVE, SERENITY, CHARITY, AND UHM.. . MASTURBAT!ON!

crazymommy:
Go and sell your dollars at rate of 400 naira as you predicted
...keep deceiving yourself with your delusional 15000$ cash with you...

iykedare:


Bro, I'm fine.

Why you hating? I got those dollars when it was 165 naira. Why don't you concentrate on feeding yourself.

Bad Belle people