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drisham:
Zidane also has 3UCL sha

Yes same with Pep. So only Carlo has won more than him and of course Pep!

Jodera:
Make Ancelotti come place like Man u or Chelsea wey dey ready to spend then slug it out with Pep then I'll agree he's better than Klopp.

Man was like present Mou if you remember until Madrid gave him life. Nobody wanted to touch him after failed stints with Bayern and Napoli and he was really struggling with Everton until he jumped to Madrid at the rightest of times.

Omorr, just rest like you said. If na Ancelotti of before I gree, no be present Ancelotti

Okay....

Jodera:
He upstaged Fergie with prime Chelsea and that was only once.

The other places he went to were serial winning clubs— Ac Milan when Inter and Juve dey hibernation, PSG, Bayern.

Once he went to normal club, he never competed for the league or gave anything close to competition — Napoli, Everton

Then he came back again when athletico Madrid and Barcelona don jonze and started dominating with Madrid again. Mind you, his first la Liga spell, no la Liga trophy

He's goat of coaches, I agree but presently he's not better than Klopp

It's just like Mbappe and Cristiano. Everyone knows the overall player is Cristiano but presently nobody will choose him over Mbappe

Lol, not same situation. One is in a retirement league and the other is in the UCL semis. (Ororo and Mbape scenario)

Anceloti is guiding Madrid to UCL semis while Klopp may finsh third. If anything, Calo is on the rise while Klopp is slowing down. (Carlo and Klopp scenario)

My guy, make I rest...

Leyqute:
I’m emphasizing on defenders because they are the backbone of his success. If he didn’t spend 400m on defenders in one year to do trial and error and had to buy one or two at a time like others, him yanshe go show well well.

Don’t forget the failed experiments- Mendy, Danilo, Laporte, Angelino

Okay, but that's not enough reason to focus only on defenders. I think general transfer spent should be the metric on discussions like this. But no wahala.

Jodera:
Don Carlo is arguably in the best team in the world presently challenging with the weakest Barca and Athletico in years and you expect him not to dominate?

When he was in la Liga prior to now, how many did he win?
When he was in EPL, where was he?

Lmaooo, he should come and handle present Chelsea first then drag for league then I'll agree he's better than present Klopp.

Look at this Liverpool squad presently, can Carlo even use it and go head to head with Man City?

Anyways, no p. We'll just be going back and forth on the matter.

Meanwhile, in first season he won the League in EPL, didn't win in the second season and was sacked. We don't know what would've happened in his third season at Chelsea.

But no p!....

Jodera:
Ancelotti is a UCL coach, I give him that. Eliminate an opposition over two legs and you can count on him but slug it out in league...
Lai lai!!!

He has won the League anywhere(country) he goes. When United was very hot, he came in an upstaged Ferguson.

He's a great general purpose coach with specialty in my favourite club competition.

raumdeuter:
Man utd signed Lukaku as the most expensive striker in EPL
Signed Pogba as the most expensive midfielder
Signed Maguire as one of the most expensive defender

And what do you have to show

Okay, there you have it!

mostob:
Ancelotti or no Ancelotti, Madrid is something else when it comes to UCL. No matter how bad Madrid is, they will always find a way whether Siasia is their coach or Carlo.

No evidence suggests this assertion. Real Madrid won the UCL last in 2001/2002 season that's almost 13 years until Don Carlo won it again for them in 2013.

He's the one who brought them back to the big time. Mourinho also tried though, got them to the semis.

In the last five (5) premier league games, Klopp has picked 5 points from a possible 15. But he's better than Carlo and is failing because of Pep.

Shey nah Pep say make e no win games abi. If you really think Carlo will be in this position and drop this many points then you don't really follow that man. He's a beast when he smells blood!

Andrewbaba44, mostob, Thieryjay, jodera

Sportsweb:
Pep is clear

It's a common knowledge but I'm to believe he's better than Don Carlo because his team run around with intensity!

Leyqute:
Name another manager that had the luxury of spending 400m on defenders alone. In one year.

If I may ask, why is your emphasis on defenders instead of overall transfer spent?

Since Pep came to the e-fam, United have outspent them and this is fact. But while city have won multiple EPL titles and the UCL, United didn't show anything.

raumdeuter:
So Klopp will have 1 league title to show in 9yrs?

We'll see at the end of the season!

Leyqute:
Pep Guardiola spent close to 400m on defenders alone within one year.

Let that sink in.

They thought we forgot.

It's possible that the emboldened is true. But what about Manchester United?

Are you aware that since Pep joined City, United have outspent them during the said period?

WhoDeyHause:
Then why can't he farm the ucl too? Klopp with less spendings went to 3 finals losing two. Ancelotti is on 4 and might be on his way to 5 despite going to coach the likes of psg and Everton in his career. All these while showing apari pepper over the years.
We also won premier league in his first season before he started spending some country's military budgets.

You're digressing from the topic though. My point is that, Klopp had the opportunity to win the league but he's failing at it.

Come season end, people will say Pep this, pep that instead of looking at the failures of Klopp. Beat United, Palace and Everton and they'll be on top. He's a great coach and one of the goat but he dropped too many points in this crucial stage.

On Pep, he has 3 UCL. Only 1 manager has more.

WhoDeyHause:
Still won't change the fact he's always being a thorn in the flesh of Apari despite spending less.
Everybody is hailing him that he's about to do an epl four peat but what of in the champions league where he has 1 trophy in 8 years despite spending 1.5 billion?

Okay, at the end of the season, he'll be given the thorn in flesh title.

Since Pep came to E-Farm, Chelsea, United have proven that there's no positive linear relationship between winning the top prize and spending billions of pounds.

I think only Anceloti has won more UCL than Pep.

wiseone28:
I won't be surprise if Liverpool still come and win the league

You think Pep is Arteta and Klopp abi....I hear you!

Sportsweb:
What Liverpool is doing now is exactly what Arsenal did last season.. bottling a league they were 5 points clear few weeks ago

At the end of the season, people will blame Pep for the failures of Klopp. Dropping points Vs United, Palace & Everton. That's 1 point from a possible 9.

Not good enough for a manager considered a thorn in the flesh of Pep!

andrewbaba44:
Your mates get Rodri and Declan rice as DM

See who you wan sign ,I hope it’s not true sha

Oliverano Kilishi jp make una come see wonders

The moment Guido was substituted, the game moved faster and Argentina will go on to win the world cup. His substitution changed everything for Argentina. This guy is the epitome of mediocrity. Can't pass, can't run, can't interpret space.

I think he's coming in as a backup for the real pivot. I personally wouldn't mind another pivot from lamasia because this guy nah confam waste of space!

ThierryJay:
Touché. Make e no be say we dey give a rival free PR. But I get why Carlo is always underrated.

He's like that student that always seems unserious or doesn't read much but comes out tops at the term end. People then wonder how he did it and doubt his credentials.

You just described his coaching style hahaha 🤣🤣🤣

It's not free PR though it's just facts. We have seen rival fans saying Pep is the goat manager.

Before Pep, we had rivals talking about how great Sachi was, Fergie, Hysknes, Trapantoni. I'm just appreciating greatness lol!

I've finally rested 👏👏👏

andrewbaba44:
I always don’t agree with people saying klopp haven’t spent a lot

I respect your opinion about ancelotti ,But I think klopp is better (my opinion )

Klopp has revolutionised the modern game. He's the reason why the buzz word "pressing" is everywhere.

I think he's great and the modern game fits what he does but he hasn't won enough to be considered better than Carlo. May be he's better but it's a very close call based on what's happening right now in the modern game.

Result wise, trophies, award, Carlo is very clear!


....and yes, Klopp sef don spend 😂😂😂

ThierryJay:
Yet Carlo's Madrid convincingly wiped this same Klopp's Liverpool home and away and in final.

Klopp does not have anything on Carlo.

Facts only.

Don Carlo is top class. He knows how to set his team up so well. He adapts to every opponent. If your team is better, he knows and will try to be conservative. If his team is better he knows and they'll wipe you well. He's not without fault though but his record in knockouts is really good. Tuchel does this too and is learning well enough.

I started paying serious homage to that guy in 2003 season. Forget, that man Knows exactly what he's doing.

Klopp goes toe to toe with everyone even when his team is weaker may be through injuries or suspension, poor form or lack of squad depth. Pep does this too but at least he has 3ucl to his name and more than enough league titles to show for his troubles.

mostob:
Klopp is better than Carlo abeg.... Pep's dominance is why Liverpool only won one league title in the last nine years.

Klopp in La liga with the current Barca team will win titles.

It's a very close call but I personally don't think he's better. I speak facts and results not based on heavy metal football.

Carlo is incredibly underated. He'll beat Klopp 7 times if they meet 10 times. Evidence suggests this....When Carlo joined Chelsea, I always felt he'll have no problems wrestling the title from Fergie. I tell you the truth, if he was in England with a team capable of spending like United and Liverpool, Pep won't dominate this much.

Although he's not as negative as Mourinho, Carlo is a beast coach that doesn't really care about attractive football but results.

UCL semis, he flogged Klopp, UCL final, e flog Klopp. He's not attractive but result oriented and football is all about results.

Right now I'll take him over Klopp, yes!!! because what we need now is results not attractive football. May be in future I'll now consider Klopp since his team knows how to run around and press.

Jodera:
Lmaooo...
Why you dey carry bulldozer for knife fight na. Must you rub salt to injury with that picture?

Anyways, it's your opinion but Klopp is better than Carlo presently.

Give Klopp and Carlo two very good teams and Klopp will always come out tops in a league run.

But like I said, it's your opinion.

Make I no talk pass like this before you go carry another grenade launcher picture come fight

May be Klopp is better but not by much...

Jodera:
While I get your point but the thing is that this Tebas stuff is allegedly overblown and that's because you guys are comparatively weaker wrt to your team of old

Tebas was appointed in was it 2014 or so and you guys have been dominating the league without issues of "Tebas this, Tebas that", but when Bartomeu started doing wonders in mismanaging your clubs, that's when all these kasala started. Bartomeu is the real villian not Tebas at all.

Klopp would have done wonders, probably he won't stay up to 9 years but he would have stayed for long and you guys would have been very very successful.

Even with Tebas, you guys won league last season with Rookie Xavi remember. Now, Imagine if it was Klopp Post Messi.

I don't have time for Tebas. Barca must sit up and do things for themselves. I've never and will never comment on issues concerning refs and Tebas because it adds nothing.

Barca must focus on themselves and improve, period!

That said, this your post get too many "IF" why nah?? 😂 😂

Okay. If Almunia was Lehman, Arsenal would've won the UCL in 2006!

Jodera:
You think Klopp would win one league title in 9years if he was at Barca especially when him get Messi of 2016?
No coach in la Liga is better than Klopp especially if he came around that time he entered Liverpool.

Stop using Pep dominance to undermine Klopp when he even actively competed with Pep with lesser squad depth, quality and finance

I don't think Klopp is that better than Carlo. But alot of people including you will say Klopp is clear but he's not. Klopp will have issues beating Anceloti in Laliga. Anceloti's team play like they don't know what they're doing but eventually they hurt you bad. I've known Carlo since when he was at Parma. He knows how to adapt to situations so well. I think he's better than Klopp. Yes I really think so and his records suggest so.

Carlo is so damm underated sha lol.....

Klopp has spent alot too. He's among the goat coaches but that's not an excuse to win 1 league title in 9 years. It's not just about spending more money, Pep is just clearly better than him. If it's by spending, Chelsea would've been on top of the league. United are the biggest spenders in England yet absolutely nothing show!

Pep>Carlo>Klopp...but marginally though....

my personal opinion. So, to each, their own!

andrewbaba44:
He is actually the e first arsenal fan I have seen saying such about arteta

I been think say na joke

He's actually not the first. Even on nairaland them choke especially live match front page thread. In fact arsenal fan thread get them plenty there too!

He's not the first but may be the first you've seen 😂

KingTom:
Bros no mind me, walahi even the basic garri na cocaine now. I hope say you beat shege comot the werey dispatch body even ordinary plastic imitation backlights now are so freaking expensive

Hahaha 🤣🤣🤣🤣

patrickmuf:
Remember my response to you about De Zerbi?

He is much like Van Gaal, they care more about keeping the ball than scoring.

Abeg nah 🙏

I know you said he's much like and I get you. Van Gaal really love the possession thingy but there are results to back them up.

Biko 🙏 🙏 🙏 don't mention Don Gaal with Dezerbo. They're not same. If I can remember correctly, Van Gaal has played in 3 UCL final winning 1 in addition to his multiple league titles in top leagues.

Dezerbo is more like Pochetino, mumu coach both of them.

KingTom:
Your girlfriend giving you boxers is no news your girlfriend gifting you Toyota Brakepads is news

Lol, my point is everything is quite expensive. A dispatch rider finished my side mirror, when I was told the price of new one, e shock me.

Yeah, boxer and brakepads no be same but everything cost including PMS!

BlueRayDick:
He will just take us back to the days of Good Ebening when we play Loserpool and all they need do is press us from the back while we release the ball to the waiting legs of their attackers who will load us with enough goals.

As we dey Knack Loserpool and other big teams apako now no sweet enough

You seem a very happy man. Other big teams in England can only wish they're in shoes right now.

Continue knackin em!.....

KingTom:
Omo if una know how much tyre cost now ehn, ah una go appreciate that gift

It's not news. Almost everything is expensive in Nigeria including tyres

Even Toyota brake pads is over 50k now so it's no news!

OkpaNsukkaisBae:
Doing well ke?

Person just go trophy less after all the economic levers dey sold so he can buy players u dey tell me say he's doing well

Go and read doing well again. I emboldened Raphinha so I was talking about Raph not Chabi