₦airaland Forum

Raskimonojendor:
The idiot that said Lagos is not a Yoruba city is the one you are trying to reason with. 🤣
I guess it is a Fulani city.

my brother it is not, it was capital for 85 years. Federal capital for that matter . That’s three generations. It is a national project. Die if you want to

phemray:
How long was calabar as Capital. I know it was capital b4 lagos

thank you for asking, it was capital for seven years my brother

SonOfDSoil01:
na your papa won die for my papa land now at least I am not living in anambala but by home state Lagos. I know it hurt know it’s Yoruba land governed by the Yorubas😂I can’t you be proud of Anambala aleast I am not claiming to come from there

there is no anambra anywhere, die if you want to , Lagos is not Yoruba land

Goodvibes007:
You are right. I just went through his post history. He is impersonating Edo people.

that is my Edo brother you fool go through my post it is filled with Edo, i defend Edo with my life

Raskimonojendor:
It took you a while but you finally figured that they are the same person posting with 2 Monikas. And he is indeed Ibo aka Omo nna. They are the ones that burst nerves anytime there are good news about Yorubas 🤣

there is nothing like Omo nna, write any Edo for me i will interpret for you using five monikers to chat is your trade and craft, I will have no issue with you if you don’t include Edo into your narrative, If not that the first fool included Benin in his write up on the front page i would not be here. You can go through my previous comments, i have close to four hundred of them, i defend Edo with my life

SonOfDSoil01:
i guess that was what your hateful ancestors told you , it really must hurt to be ibo, I can understand your pains.as a Yoruba of Lagos origin, this is my home and my ancestral land, and one low life inferior savage, who migrated across the Niger won’t be the one to tell me my history. You can keep feeding your group of idiots with that if it make you happy🤣 now take a back sit….ode oshi

my brother Lagos is not Yoruba land, die if you want to

Goodvibes007:
We are talking about Edo, don't try to drag other SS states into your mess.

I now believe that you are the same person and even Ibo boys.

that was his initial statement you fool, there’s no Yoruba state that is better than Edo except Lagos which is a national project

ThatFairGuy1:
Balderdash.

Akoko Edo no be Yoruba?

I doubt you're ALSO not Igbo sev

not be Yoruba ozour, it’s an Edo enclave where are from in Akoko Edo. I want to educate you it is not Yoruba, where are you from In Akoko Edo ?

SonOfDSoil01:
what an idiot you are what is Nigeria without the Yorubas? The major recognised city in Nigeria is Lagos and in Yoruba land, and also the economic capital of the country where other ethnic nationalities run to for survival. Pls give us a place or city worthy of note or recognised in your backward enclave? I guess none, even the only good thing from Nigeria being exported which is our music is controlled by the Yorubas and give Nigeria more recognition worldwide. There is no Nigeria without the Yoruba so you can either choke on your hate or take a dive into the lagoon…Arindin😂

lagos is not a Yoruba city, it is a national project, a place that was capital of Nigeria for 85 years cannot be called a Yoruba city. It is just like gwari people say Abuja is gwari land it is a national project

ThatFairGuy1:
Igbo man, rest.
Stop mumuing

there is no Igbo anywhere he is an Edo through and through stick with your useless osun state. Omobude is an Edo name tested and trusted

Goodvibes007:
Ignorance at its peak. Ondo has more oil than Edo.

it also has more oil than delta and rivers ozour he is trying to tell you that Lagos is Nigeria’s project, it was developed with south south oil money

ThatFairGuy1:
Nah your papa u dey refer to as that not me

Akoko Edo nah Igbo?

Ogbeni shut up Akoko Edo na Edo, where for Akoko Edo you for come ?

ThatFairGuy1:
A Yoruba man from Edo State

there is nothing like Yoruba man from Edo state Ode where are you from?

Goodvibes007:
Then why are you on this thread when e not concern you. Why are you taking paracetamol over a thread where the yorubas are celebrating themselves 🎊

i am on here because one fool wrote on the first page that if he is not Edo he will be Yoruba, and the old Yoruba fool registered Yesterday, my brother attacked his post and he was attacked so i am here to defend my place and people lest our history and identity be harvested

Raskimonojendor:
Then take your hatred and bitterness away from this thread. Don't kill yourself over other tribes matter. 🤣

then stop using strange monikers to claim us useless people. The guy who wrote that on the front page, his moniker was created yesterday. He is an old Yoruba fool who was not confident enough to use his original moniker

Raskimonojendor:
God forbid bad thing. Na Edo and Kebbi state suppose dey compete.

shut up Lagos is not your project, it is Nigeria’s project. The rest of Yoruba states are just dead places

ThatFairGuy1:
This Igbo man, we no go kill u if you identify as Igbo u are.

he is not Igbo, i can interpret his moniker in Benin, who are you

Raskimonojendor:
Minority sef dey chook mouth

minority want to be left alone you useless fool

ThatFairGuy1:
Thesame Benin, Ile-ibinu => Ubini => Benin Yoruba anex land?

Ile ibinu is just the theory propagated by the Yoruba people to claim the Benin civilization.

You cannot find it anywhere that Ubini was gotten from Ile~ibinu, in fact if you find it, i will give you a sum of fifty thousand naira

There is even another theory that the Portuguese named Benin Benyn meaning kindness because of how they were treated when they came around

BentizilL0:
If I'm not Edo, I'm definitely a Yoruba

you are not Edo, you mad man, your account was created yesterday

Treasure17:

The name osagie is from the word orisa(gods) in yoruba land.

cure your Amala infested coneheaded ignorance, Osagie is a native Edo (Bini) word for God sent me. OSA is the Core word for God in Bini and the entire Edoid tribe. It is certainly a cognate from the YEAI stock that gained more popularity and cognizance among the Edoid tribe. That is why you will find a million OSAS in (Bini) Edo. E.g Osabuohien, Osaretin, Osaigbokan,Osagie, Osayande, Osamudiamen, Osagbovo, Osamede,Osazuwa,Osaze,Osarenoma,Osaivbie,Osare-winda etc, it was not borrowed my brother. We have no other word for God in Edo.


Igbos have theirs too .e.g Olisameka,Olisachukwu, etc

christejames:
Igbos and South South are just the best...


Take that to the bank.

Igbo and Edo (Bini) be more specific, there is nothing like Igbo and south south, south south is a political creation not a tribe

Treasure17:
Yoruba amaka making us proud.

there is no Yoruba there ode

pascal558:
how many black Americans today still follow African culture? But they all still say the word WE ARE FROM AFRICA... Usen people still practice Benin customs today because they still live within Benin territory, same can't be said for ikwerre people as same as African Americans.... Make we rest the matter say, no award will be given. Have a nice Sunday my man and please edit your insult to other tribes, we Benin people are not known to abuse other tribes without a fair reason.

practice Benin custom and speak the Benin language. Very essential, your writings must be expressly expressed

pascal558:
First of all nor try mention me for your life again if you nor Sabi talk... Second of all I don't talk with babies who use the word CAP, thirdly I don't see any difference between what you typed and what I just said outside the insult you added.

All these Yoruba illiterate’s coming to speak for Benin because of their selfish interests

Tell me how this is the same with what I wrote up there. I know how to abase and abound in pidgin and English excellently because I am a Benin boy. To cap means to talk, there are no rules in pidgin English. It is not only used by kids, it cuts across all ages in Benin City, I am from Benin City the pidgin capital.

If you don’t want me to quote you, please represent my tribe properly, I will defend my place with my life and in truth. Aside what you wrote that does not represent my tribe properly, your existence does not matter to me.

And lastly addressing the discuss at hand, you were comparing Ikwerre in the same breadth with Usen. Saying that Usen speak Yoruba and they are purely Benin. How do you expect the reader to know on what basis they are purely Benin when you did not state that they are bilinguals?You expect them to assume especially for those that are not familiar with these territories at all? You were clearly equating ikwerre with Usen insinuating that are on the same pedestal, owing to their mere claim of origin to Benin being speakers of different languages and i interjected educating the public that Usen has a deep relationship with Benin speaking Benin and Observing Benin customs and culture alongside their Yoruboid language therefore lies the basis why we consider them to be part of the Benin ethnicity.

Even if Ikwerre, their traditions of origin might be correct, they are now part and parcel of the Igboid people and race as they are singular in tongue speaking the Igbo language alone. It is not on the same pedestal at all, i wanted the public to know, i wanted to correct that notion deeply

jacobnel:
UYO and Asaba,Warri is ahead of Benin and Calabar in terms of major cities. Benin and Calabar are ancient City now,no new development

it is population he is talking about, the present Benin City would swallow Asaba, Warri, Sapele, Agbor, numerically, there would still be space. Benin City is a major city not only in the south south but in the entire Nigeria. It was reckoned according to the 2006 census to be the 4th largest city in Nigeria only surbordinates to Lagos, Kano and Ibadan in that order respectively. It was counted to be about 780,000 in the 1991 census and rose to 1,346,703 in the 2006 census. That is the last official census we’ve had. It has grown significantly larger than that since 2006.

“Assessing Resident Satisfaction with Planning and Neighborhood facilities of Some Public Housing Estates in Benin city, Nigeria

Journal of Educational and Social Research

By Kingsley Okechukwu Dimuna
Department of Architecture
Ambrose Alli University
Ekpoma, Nigeria

And Abiodun Olukayodeh Olotuah
Department of Architecture
Federal University of Technology
Akure, Nigeria

Page 23.

It was stated that in the 2006 census, Benin city’s population was 1,346,703 but what is on Wikipedia is about 25% lesser than the actual population of Bini city in 2006 worst still with no source whatsoever.

This is a link where you can download the write up

https://www.google.com/url?q=https://www.researchgate.net/publication/330876121_Assessing_Residents

pascal558:
Here in Benin we have Usen people, they speak Yoruba but are purely Benin. One thing that happened in the era of conquest were people migrating and been influenced by external culture of the surrounding where they found themselves

make una nor dae cap nonsense for here, all these Yorubas wey dae pretend. Usen is bilingual, speaking Benin and a Yoruboid language. It is on the basis of the fact that they speak Benin and observe Benin culture alongside with their Yoruboid language that is why we consider them Benin.

Okada691:
aside this Yoruba historian who noted now that the Binis invaded and instituted the monarchy, other historians of note also wrote in support of the idea that the Binis instituted the monarchy. From Bradbury to Ryder all supported the theory that the Oba of Lagos is a direct offshoot of the Oba of Benin. As with conquest and Invasion, there are usually renaming of towns, that is why they started renaming quarters with the Edo language he is used to.

Idumota ~ota people’s district, Idunsagbe, Iduntafa, idunmagbon and so on even the town, he renamed it Eko. Which directly translates to War camp.

Even the Oba of Lagos once said that he is a direct descendant of the Oba of Benin

not only that it is settled in colonial documents my brother, bodies of late kings in Lagos were taken to Benin. Those of Bradbury and Ryder built up on what the Europeans had settled.

The Oba of Lagos after he said that he was an offshoot of Benin, they nearly came for his head but he knew what he was saying. His fathers before him in the 1850stold the colonial masters that the Oba of Benin was the owner of Lagos.

Ryder noted that emblems of authority which signifies confirmation of stools were always sent from Benin. And tributary payments was annually sent from Lagos to Benin.

I think this material from a Yoruba historian settles it, he is a realist and does not want to delude himself. He obviously knew where it came from. He knew that these are vestiges of the Edo language.

Okada691:
my brother that Yoruba account is not in tandem with reality, how can you go borrow a king from someone you barely know.

that was a stretch my brother, I just wanted to let him know that either way he is bleeped, when you compare my points to his.

“ i wantto add that not only that the language Edo exists, it was also the language of the palace of the Oba of Benin. And there are plethora of evidence to prove such.

You must have heard of the edo’nekhue dialect that evolved out of the relationship between the royal family and the eastern Yoruba people. The dialect was spoken by eastern Yoruba people who had affinity with the Oba of Benin.

Even the Yoruba account accented to the fact that the Oba is maternally Edo ancestrally.

The names of past Obas of Benin. Both their birth names and their ascension names are all Bini names.

Stools and places affiliated to Benin had one or two Edo relic to buttress the fact that Edo was the palace language. The traditional title of the Olu of Itsekiri was and is still Ogiame which directly translates to King of the riverine area .

Go and check the Obi of Agbor and Isele-uku king lists, you are sure to find several Edo names that can be interpreted today.

Even places in Lagos island is replete with Edo naming pattern-Idumagbo, idumota, iduntafa, idunsagbe and so on. What about the name Eko. These are names and places that can be interpreted by Edo and supported by historical account from a Yoruba historian that it came from Edo like the one i quoted above.

There are plethora and plethora of evidence to support the fact that Edo was spoken in the palace “

This is a research work by their Yoruba brother, i don’t think i need to say too much

title of this book is “which Lagos, whose history, by ayodeji olukoju, department of history and strategic studies,university of Lagos, Nigeria

absoluteSuccess:
@Ologbo147,

I see.

i saw your write up above my quoted mention

I want to add that not only that the language Edo exists, it was also the language of the palace of the Oba of Benin. And there are plethora of evidence to prove such.

You must have heard of the edo’nekhue dialect that evolved out of the relationship between the royal family and the eastern Yoruba people. The dialect was spoken by eastern Yoruba people who had affinity with the Oba of Benin.

Even the Yoruba account accented to the fact that the Oba is maternally Edo ancestrally.

The names of past Obas of Benin. Both their birth names and their ascension names are all Bini names.

Stools and places affiliated to Benin had one or two Edo relic to buttress the fact that Edo was the palace language. The traditional title of the Olu of Itsekiri was and is still Ogiame which directly translates to King of the riverine area .

Go and check the Obi of Agbor and Isele-uku king lists, you are sure to find several Edo names that can be interpreted today.

Even places in Lagos island is replete with Edo naming pattern-Idumagbo, idumota, iduntafa, idunsagbe and so on. What about the name Eko. These are names and places that can be interpreted by Edo and supported by historical account from a Yoruba historian that it came from Edo like the one i quoted above.

There are plethora and plethora of evidence to support the fact that Edo was spoken in the palace


Absolutesuccess i saw your comment and I would like to reply in my comment below

absoluteSuccess:
I understand what you are trying to say, the point is, if the claims made can be established by the veracity of this place names, then it means that this place names are tenable proof of fact. As such, their etymology have to be done for historical purposes.

gbam


Idun and Idu stand for very different things.

While Idu is the name of the Edo ancestor and is not connected to this discuss at all, Idun on the other hand is what is related to this discuss.

Idun means a quarter in a settlement, when the word is placed beside some words, the n might then become silent just as in the case of idumota but the n was retained in the case of Iduntafa, Idunsagbe, and Idunmagbo
I am not making this up,

This is a research work by your Yoruba brother, Ayodeji Olukoju from Oka Akoko

tonychristopher:
Eko is benin
Idumagbon is benin
Idumota is benin
Benin ruled Lagos and still because oba heritage

you are in tune with history, the Edo people have a great stake in Lagos, the influence of Edo in Lagos is overwhelming. It is supported by several scholars from Bradbury to Ryder, even to local Yoruba historians like the one i cited above

efepro:
I think it's a bini name. cos historically, the yorubas originated from Edo..
Few weeks ago, our training(Edo) manager was sharing with us, a brief history of Edo/yoruba origin. He said Akpogbon I.e the bus-stop before CMS is a Bini name.

not only Akpogbon, even the name of the place “Eko”is Edo derived. It means war camp, it was recorded in history books, that the Oba of Lagos stool was founded by Oba orhogbua’son.

Even district such as idumota reeks Edo, it directly translates to Ota’peoples quarter. The influence of Edo on Lagos is innumerable to say the least. Iduntafa, idumagbo, idunsagbe etc are all Edo derived. It is only the Edo people that use idu as a prefix of a place to mean quarter.

Iduntafa-means Tafa’s quarter


Absolutesuccess i saw your comment.

The title of this book is “which Lagos, whose history, by ayodeji olukoju, department of history and strategic studies,university of Lagos, Nigeria