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Simbrixton:
we are kinfolk

I am from ilara quarters

Today you are from Okere, next day you are from Ilara qtrs, Ile-Ife

Simbrixton
Dsimmer
Doptical
Olu
Lawani
Lexy2014
Etc. one can only pick one or two actual humans from these six monikers, the same low iq resonates across

Efewestern:
Edoid - A group of people who speak variants of the Edo language and share common ancestry (most) and culture.

Bini - A tribe belonging to the Edoid group.

Edo State - A place many believe is the origin of the Edoid people.

So all groups I mentioned fall into the Edoid group. Same way you lump Itsekiri and Ilaje as Yoruboid or Ika & Ikwerre as Igboid... It's the same way groups who speak similar variants of the Edo language are called Edoid groups and they are found mostly in Delta, Edo and Bayelsa (Minority).

Please note, Bini is not the same as Edoid. They are a branch of the family, same as Esan, Isoko etc. So don't get confused.

pay no heed to those ones who are not educated enough to know that Urhobo and Isoko are Edoid groups, even Degema, Engenni , Epie-atissa are all Edoid groups even linguistically even if the last three identify as Ijaw.


Avoid the last one call Beninrefugee, he is empty, seem like one that will never learn or take correction and is out to derail the thread

Efewestern:
Or even less. But these minute population are consistently mentioned to push falsehood and swell population numbers.

The 5% non-Edoid population in Edo state is shared between these iJo, Yoruba, Itsekiri and Ika. Very insignificant.

and also Igarra,

Akoko Edo as big as it is comprise of just five percent of the population of Edo state.

Okpamheri as an Edo group comprise of 23 villages and its population was over 30 thousand minus Ososo in 1952 and all these communities are in Akoko Edo.

I do not think the insignificant population of Itsekiri in Ologbo that is even a shared community coupled with those sparsely Ijaw settlements in the two Ovia alongside with the population of Igbanke can go beyond 60% of Akoko Edo. Who are Yorubas in Edo state

Efewestern:
I ignored the significant Urhobo population in iJo territories in Delta state. There is no single group that can even argue numbers with Edo in the whole of SS aside Efik/Ibibio. Funny how some falsehood can become a fact if repeated continuously.

Igboid in Edo state are not up to two percent, maybe Edo south not the entire Edo state, when you pitch the population of Igbanke against the population of Edo state indigenes, it cannot go beyond 1.1 percent

Efewestern:
Unlike you, I debate with fact. The Edoid completely cancelled Igboid group in Delta. In Edo, the Edoid reign supreme. As at 1967, Edoid had a population of 1+ million in Edo. What's the Igboid population in Rivers, and how many of these population belongs to the Igboid group?

Edoid in delta is up to about 45 percent of the population of Delta state. Put it in plain terms, the Urhobos alone minus the Isoko totally cancels the Igboid group in Delta state and also Igbanke in Edo state.


When you add Isoko to the prevalent population of Edoid groups in Edo state, it will be two times and half the population of Igboid groups in Rivers state. Outside Delta and Rivers, you find Igboid groups in Minute quantity in Bayelsa and Akwa ibom

Igboid:
What are you blabbing about?
Igbos/Igboids of SS are the single largest ethnic group in SS.
This is my point and facts back this up..
Rema is from Igbanke likewise Boyspyce, this is a well known fact, if you want proof, just ask or you can simply use the Internet search button.

I am not concerned about the Igbos being the largest group in the SS

It is proof that Rema and Boyspyce are from Igbanke, that is what i ever asked for , if you think i did not check the internet after seeing your post, you are a clown. If you had it, you would have posted it and not elongate the argument any further, but Obviously you are a big clown as you lots are here

Igboid:
They are the biggest.

Anioma is 1/3 of Delta.
Igbanke is Igboid and is in Edo state, Boy Spyce and Rema are from Igbanke.
Ikwerre, Etche, ONELGA, Omuma, Ekpeye, Ofigbo, Opobo and Bonny form more than 60% of Rivers State!
Few Ukwuani speaking villages in Bayelsa state, Ohaobu village on Akwa Ibom, Isobo clan in Cross River.
No other ethnic grouping in SS comes close.

I use to think you are one of the few sensible Igbo boys on here, but with this claim of Boyspyce and Rema being from Igbanke without proof, you are very dull and a very dense Igbo


The highest i have seen in documents about igbanke is that igbanke is just at most17-18% of Orhiowmon local government’s population. When you do the comparison of small igbanke to the entire Bini tribe in Edo south. Igbanke will not be more than 2% of the population of Binis in Edo south. Why the perpetual penchant to tie every famous Bini to Igbanke? is it inferiority complex or what? Why is it that most times it is you guys that are always dubiously aware of this negative information.


In a local government where there is Urhonigbe and Oza that are both individually bigger than Igbanke in Orhiowmon. If not that Igbinedion is from the western Benin and attributing him to Igbanke again would make you guys look like desperados and clowns, you would have done so. You guys should come off it , it is not the best

lexy2014:
off point.

1. are you aware that all your emotional outbursts have not answered the simple questions?

2. why do you sound so hurt? do you need a hug?

its now "officially"?

you claimed that



3. if "there is nothing like Bazuaye", how do you explain this screenshot?

ok

lexy2014:
are you aware that all your emotional outbursts have not answered the simple questions?

why do you sound so hurt? do you need a hug?

its now "officially"?

you claimed that



if "there is nothing like Bazuaye", how do you explain this screenshot?

I have done that some light year’s ago with this explanation below but you seem to be too mentally deranged to notice, or you have serious dearth of comprehension skills, probably a failed Ogbomosho 100level diploma drop out who comes online with the aid of opera 100 mb.


“There is a name like Enomayo. Many persons render it as nomayo. Two clans of the same family can be rendering it as Enomayo and nomayo and it is actually the same thing”.


I am not the one that should be hiding my face, I made a claim there is nothing like Bazuaye and i went on to prove it in official linguistic document. It is a fancy way of saying OBazuaye. And i have proven it . Not on those non-opaque site that were written by some Edos supervised by some Yorubas with Edo heading title and with meanings one cannot relate with.


Obazuaye is a chief, just one of its kind in the palace. And i have proven that you cannot find yours in official linguistic document and i was right. Not a site written with mischievous and malicious intent with meanings a proper Edo brought up cannot relate with.

For the idiot asking me if my screenshot says Obazuaye is a Bini name. It is and it is the proper rendition of the name.




You are free to ransack that dictionary and hope in futility that yours come out to help your case.
I am not the cause of your frustration. I am not to blame for the fact that your claim was turn in shreds by me. I am sorry for destroying your “evidence” that can only be found on gbajue site monitored by some bastard mischievious Yorubas

lexy2014:
why do you sound so hurt? do you need a hug?

its now "officially"?

you claimed that



if "there is nothing like Bazuaye", how do you explain this screenshot?

The answers are all in my write up, the answers are there, you are a failure and a loser offline i know and i am so certain of it. Go and play with your mate offline, i am not your mate. If you are tired of life, you can as well commit suicide, nobody will miss you

lexy2014:
its now "officially"?

you claimed that



if "there is nothing like Bazuaye", how do you explain this screenshot?

Dont change your goal post, you slowpoke in life, you were projecting your frustrations and ignorance on Bini like you were so sure of it.


There is a name like Enomayo. Many persons render it as nomayo. Two clans of the same family can be rendering it as Enomayo and nomayo and it is actually the same thing.

Officially there is nothing like Bazuaye in Bini which of us is right. Not what they put online, check the dictionary and see if it will come out

I nor be your mate, if i tell you something you go take


The joke and the failure is on you. I clearly gave examples why it can happen that way. You are suppose to be eating your words like the failure and the loser that you are. These rubbish goats online that don’t get attention offline but wants to come and be forming king online with their Lilliputian ignorant self

What about the contrary claims you made that was set up in Flames with Hard dictionary evidence with meanings. There is no word with a meaning such as Bazuaye in Benin and i have proven it, Bazuaye is a corrupt or short form of it. And i have proven it, you can go check up official linguistic document about Benin, you will not find one rendition of Bazuaye/Bazuyi/Bazuye as opined by you and your friends not the online website you manipulate. This is an official document of the proper names of those chiefs in Benin you inconsequential nitwit.

I can actually recommend dictionaries for you

Edo English dictionary by RN Agheyisi 1986


A Bini dictionary by Hans Melzian 1937

lexy2014:
its now "officially"?

you claimed that



but yet...

Dont change your goal post, you slowpoke in life, you were projecting your frustrations and ignorance on Bini like you were so sure of it.


There is a name like Enomayo. Many persons render it as nomayo. Two clans of the same family can be rendering it as Enomayo and nomayo and it is actually the same thing.

Officially there is nothing like Bazuaye in Bini which of us is right. Not what they put online, check the dictionary and see if it will come out

I nor be your mate, if i tell you something you go take


The joke and the failure is on you. I clearly gave examples why it can happen that way. You are suppose to be eating your words like the failure and the loser that you are. These rubbish goats online that don’t get attention offline but wants to come and be forming king online with their Lilliputian ignorant self

What about the contrary claims you made that was set up in Flames with Hard dictionary evidence with meanings. There is no word with a meaning such as Bazuaye in Benin and i have proven it, Bazuaye is a corrupt or short form of it. And i have proven it, you can go check up official linguistic document about Benin, you will not find one rendition of Bazuaye/Bazuyi/Bazuye as opined by you and your friends not the online website you manipulate. This is an official document of the proper names of those chiefs in Benin you inconsequential nitwit.

I can actually recommend dictionaries for you

Edo English dictionary by RN Agheyisi 1986


A Bini dictionary by Hans Melzian 1937

lexy2014:
its now "officially"?



but yet...

Dont change your goal post, you slowpoke in life, you were projecting your frustrations and ignorance on Bini like you were so sure of it.


There is a name like Enomayo. Many persons render it as nomayo. Two clans of the same family can be rendering it as Enomayo and nomayo and it is actually the same thing.

Officially there is nothing like Bazuaye in Bini which of us is right. Not what they put online, check the dictionary and see if it will come out

I nor be your mate, if i tell you something you go take


The joke and the failure is on you. I clearly gave examples why it can happen that way. You are suppose to be eating your words like the failure and the loser that you are. These rubbish goats online that don’t get attention wants to come and be forming king online with their Lilliputian ignorant self

lexy2014:
that not what I asked. this gentleman claimed that




1. when was Bazuaye once pronounced as Obazuaye?

2. when was it then changed from Obazuaye to Bazuaye?

3. who effected the change?

Dont change your goal post, you slowpoke in life, you were projecting your frustrations and ignorance on Bini like you were so sure of it.


There is a name like Enomayo. Many persons render it as nomayo. Two clans of the same family can be rendering it as Enomayo and nomayo and it is actually the same thing.

Officially there is nothing like Bazuaye in Bini which of us is right. Not what they put online, check the dictionary and see if it will come out

I nor be your mate, if i tell you something you go take

lexy2014:
that not what I asked you. you claimed that




when was Bazuaye once pronounced as Obazuaye?

when was it then changed from Obazuaye to Bazuaye?

who effected the change?

don’t be a slowpoke, this is a Bini dictionary by Hans melzian that was written in 1937

Your moronic end is here. There is nothing like Bazuaye, you will not find it in the dictionary or any other Bini dictionary OVB123

One slowpoke wey never grow hair for prick go come online come dae follow he papa mate, i nor blame una the internet is a leveler. One ignorant slowpoke that is not taken seriously in real life instead of you to sit down and learn. You buy 100 data, come online and start arguing with your father’s mate with your ignorant self

Dsimmer:
So What's the meaning of Oshinmole in Bini? That's a conc Yoruba word as a matter of fact. Or you don't know that Bini have Ogun as deity? Or the fact that the Oba of Bini is from the ancestry of Oranmiyan, the Yoruba king of Ife and Oyo?

don’t be a dense fool, Etsako language is different from Bini, and in Etsako language, the name means God’s property

OVB123:
You right. It is fancy way of calling Obazuaye. One thing we must know is that bini language is gradually going into extinction except something is done about it urgently. Names such Enomayo is now Nomayo, Osemwota now Asemota, Osaruese now Osawese etc.

the Enomayo you gave as an example is a perfect example. Someone will come on here and say there is no word like Enomayo in Bini, that it is Nomayo because they want to push down their mischievous agenda albeit ignorantly.

The Enomayo example you gave means you know what you are doing. An ignorant fool who comes to Bini today and see Nomayo being used prevalently will say there is no word like Enomayo in Benin when that is the official rendition of the word and will ignorantly and arrogantly pass off one word that looks similar in Yoruba and try to force it down on us even when it is against rationality


Look at the break down of the name on google even it totally align with my breakdown of the name


Oba-zuaye, it is the same thing with Obazagbon

[quote author=NaMe4 post=128885563]corroborate what you said with a name on google, because it is there does not mean if it is not correct, you cannot fault it, google it and see, you should be able to get one name online

Stephen0mozzy:
Is this an attempt at translating the Benin Word "Bazuaye"? Or looking for a Yoruba word that rhymes?

Yoruba is not a Thesaurus for the Benin Language.

Leave this guys, who try to attribute every word that appears in the YEAI group of languages to the Yoruba, OSA which is a general word for God among all YEAI group of languages is attributed to Yoruba. What any sane mind would appropriate as a proper cognate within the YEAI group of languages is given to the Yoruba because of ignorance.


No matter what they do, Edo is not a dialect of Yoruba, it is not even a Yoruboid language, it is a standard branch in the YEAI group of languages

OVB123:
What you now know as Bazuaye, was once pronounced Obazuaye. Ologbo is right on this one. There are from the popular EMEHI family of Benin kingdom and they from Oghoton village. The family comprises of 3 different families namelly, Bazuaye (Obazuaye), Oloton and Iyomahan.

it is not that it was once pronounced as Obazuaye, it is still the pronunciation, it is like a fancy way of saying Obazuaye, saying it in a fancy way, you usually exclude the o

NaMe4:
From the website of that screenshot you posted earlier to show the meaning of 'Iyamu', check for Bazuaye and its meaning. Also check if you'd find Obazuye and Obazuaye.

go and check for the meaning yourself on Google, you google Obazuye or Obazuyi, if anything will come up, instead of you to be humble and learn from those better than you, you are projecting your ignorance everywhere

Bazuaye is a fancy way of pronouncing the correct one Obazuaye. O

NaMe4:
Obasuyi is a totally different name and means 'King is worthy of praises and respect'.


Bazuaye is a prominent name eg Hon Justice Irene Bazuaye. Some clans or families use Obazuye which has same meaning.

this is what you wrote, some clans of the family use Bazuaye, others use Obazuaye. But it is the same thing. Which means the Oba brings life.


You wrote Obazuye or Obazuyi, you will not find families with any of these names, i dare you, it is Obazuaye or Bazuaye which is a short form of it. At least i brought mine out from google

lexy2014:
what then is the meaning of Ize-Iyamu?

i have myself to blame for answering you up to this point.

This is the breakdown i gave, she is not Benin, she is ijebu

lexy2014:
which takes us back the question I asked:

did your screenshot say "Obazuaye" is a Bini name or you didnt read before you started screenshotting?

pls read again....

there is nothing like "obazuaye" in Bini . it is "Bazuaye"

I didnt ask whether its the family that descended or didnt descend.

I didnt ask you whether Obasohan is the name of a big chief or not.

what do Obasohan, Bazuaye, and Ize-Iyamu mean?

NB : pls where above did you give the meanings of Ize-Iyamu and Bazuaye?

Osuyi as a name can also be called suyi. Is a short form of it.


The proper rendition of the name is Obazuaye meaning the Oba brings life


Obasohan- The Oba is above fear


Ize iyamu- ize meaning i chose, iyamu- what i hold firmly

lexy2014:
and if I do, what will happen?

that is not what I asked you.

did your screenshot say "Obazuaye" is a Bini name or you didnt read before you started screenshotting?

pls read again....

there is nothing like "obazuaye" in Bini . it is "Bazuaye"

I didnt ask whether its the family that descended or didnt descend.

I didnt ask you whether Obasohan is the name of a big chief or not.

what do Obasohan, Bazuaye, and Ize-Iyamu mean?

NB: pls where above did you give the meanings of Ize-Iyamu and Bazuaye?

Osuyi as a name can also be called suyi. Is a short form of it.


The proper rendition of the name is Obazuaye meaning the Oba brings life


Obasohan- The Oba is above fear


Ize iyamu- ize meaning i chose, iyamu- what i hold firmly

lexy2014:
that is not what I asked you.

did your screenshot say "Obazuaye" is a Bini name or you didnt read before you started screenshotting?

pls read again....

there is nothing like "obazuaye" in Bini . it is "Bazuaye"

I didnt ask whether its the family that descended or didnt descend.

I didnt ask you whether Obasohan is the name of a big chief or not.

what do Obasohan, Bazuaye, and Ize-Iyamu mean?

NB: pls where above did you give the meanings of Ize-Iyamu and Bazuaye?

pls don’t quote me anymore

NaMe4:
Bazuaye is a prominent name in Benin and can be interchanged with Obazuye (Some may pronounce Obazuyi).

Meaning - The King had chosen the Earth

there is nothing like Obazuye. It is Obasuyi and Obasuyi means The Oba is worthy of respect

lexy2014:
did your screenshot say "Obazuaye" is a Bini name or you didnt read before you started screenshotting?

pls read again....

there is nothing like "obazuaye" in Bini . it is "Bazuaye"

I didnt ask whether its the family that descended or didnt descend.

I didnt ask you whether Obasohan is the name of a big chief or not.

what do Obasohan, Bazuaye, and Ize-Iyamu mean?

don’t be a fool, Obazuaye is a Bini name, majority of those who bear it are from Benin with some others who migrated from Benin, moved to Ondo and Lagos.


The one in Benin is Obazuaye, learn do t be a goat, you sound so entitled. If you need to be educated, you ask politely. I have given the meanings of Obazuaye, Obasohan and ize-iyamu above, if you care so much about knowledge go back previous pages and check

Efewestern:
Okay, sorry for the mix-up. I now get your point.

No wahala

lexy2014:
there is nothing like "obazuaye" in Bini. it is "Bazuaye"

I didnt ask whether its the family that descended or didnt descend.

I didnt ask you whether Obasohan is the name of a big chief or not.

what do Obasohan, Bazuaye, and Ize-Iyamu mean?

and you were so blind to see my interpretation of Obasohan there, you are asking like you paid for answers, there is nothing like Bazuaye, i am telling you the correct and full pronunciation is Obazuaye. Learn and grow

Efewestern:
Usen - Speaks more of Yoruba than Edo (Yoruba is the first language spoken by the people)

Orogun - Speaks Urhobo and only a very minute quarters speak Kwale.

Summary: Your analogy of Usen and Orogun is not totally correct.

I did not use Orogun anymore, i only added Orogun in the first place because of an excerpt i read that talked about Orogun descending maternally from Igbo.


Orogun is no longer the point in discuss, i gave you another perfect analogy which was there from my first comment you quoted.

Alisor/Alilehan speak Edo/Bini language as a first language, migrated into Ika, speak Ika as a second language today and identify as such. It it the exact same scenario as Usen . That is what i asked in my first write up to you

Efewestern:
I believe the Orogun case and that of Usen are far different. Only a few quarters of Orogun speak kwale and it isn't the lingual-franca of the people. The language spoken everywhere is Urhobo and a majority of them don't Understand kwale unless some very few who reside in some quarters. We also have this case in Kiagbodo between the Ijaws and the Urhobos. And surprisingly, the Ijaws in Kiagbodo people are the ancestors to some Urhobo/Isoko clans but they somehow where able to get influenced by the language.

Usen case is different. They speak Yoruba as the lingual Franca.

They don’t speak it as a lingua franca, lingua franca is like an official language that is used for communication by strange groups or related groups whose languages are deemed not to be so intelligible.


They speak it as a first language, they speak Edo too, i added very similar example of Alilehan and Alisor with Edo first languages who migrated to Agbor, speak Agbor as a second language today and identify as such, you did not reply to that, there is a video evidence there, it is exactly the same scenario with Usen