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NgeneUkwenu: Thanks my baby! Mynd44 sent me away to pacify the cankerworms. Though I was around through other means

That overzealous mynd44!
Welcome back, still.

Have you heard from obiagelli?

NgeneUkwenu: ,

Welcome back!

Just why is this thread still standing?

Freest: Omerta i get your point and you are right. I think inasmuch as C.A.N shouldn't be party oriented cos i dont advice that either, but it should be neutral in its mission to government. In its decisions, and sense of judgement. They should have a voice, even though not in accordance with any party. Atleast they should be a determining factor in politics, policies, and developments for the citizens (Not just Christian)

I agree with you also! In life, moderation is key...

Freest: Oristejafor without the church or can is just any other citizen. And my point is, we need the church/can as a body that has a say in Nigeria politics. The point is not Oristejafor but can. The Christian body!!!

C.A.N was influential and can still be, but not by romancing with polithiefcians. Let's agree with you; C.A.N should support Jonathan now. But what would its fate after Jonathan leaves office? Look for another government to ally with? Get relegated to background? What?

bossmini84: Who said meddling with polictics is bad
www.nairaland.com/1908683/pope-francis-good-catholic-meddles

You don't get it, do you?
No one asked Oritsejafor not to participate in politics. Of course, he is free to. But not in the capacity as C.A.N president. Not by releasing personal attacks in disguise of a press statement under the umbrella of C.A.N. Oritsejafor should separate his political self from the Church, and not insult the institution... Grab?

berem: Just imagine that huge sum of money being freezed by SA government at a time they lost 67 of their countrymen to building collapse in Nigeria.
I just dey observe!

Abi o!

@topic: Jonathan together with that thieving Warri boy should "continu" their deception. They should "continu" dividing this already fragile nation. One day, kuluya go burst!

berem: babe read this!
[b] Seized $9.3 million: Nigerian government’s
explanations flawed – South Africa
Nicholas Ibekwe - 13 mins agoHEADLINE
Investigators in South Africa have dismissed
Nigerian government’s explanations of the
purpose of the $9.3 million cash seized from
two Nigerians and an Israeli as “flawed and
riddled with discrepancies”.
The suspects told South African authorities that
the money was meant for the procurement of
arms for Nigerian intelligence agencies.
The jet used to ferry the money is owned by
Ayo Oritsejafor, who heads the Christian
Association of Nigeria, CAN.
Mr. Oritsejafor, a cleric, said he is not aware of
the arms deal. He said although he owns the
aircraft, it was managed by another company,
Eagle Air Company, which in turn, leased the jet
to a third party, Green Coast Produce Limited.
The Nigerian government in an unsigned
statement, Tuesday, said it has provided South
African authorities with documents and receipts
to prove that the transaction was “legitimate.”
Nigerian security officials also said that it was
normal practice to procure arms with cash.
“The Federal Government has submitted
relevant data and documents on the
transaction to South Africa and insisted that the
transaction was legitimate. It also clarified that
the funds were not laundered or smuggled for
any covert manoeuvres. No launderer will be
audacious to fly into a country in a chartered jet
with such a huge cash,” a
statement by PRNigeria, an agency that
regularly disseminates media statements for the
military, police and other security agencies in
Nigeria explained.
The statement tallies with what top security
officials told PREMIUM TIMES in confidence that
the money was legit as the government
decided to buy the arms secretly; because the
U.S. government had allegedly blocked its
efforts to buy arms openly.
However, the government’s explanation does
not seem to be gaining traction with South
African investigators as the Asset Forfeiture
Unit, AFU, of the National Prosecuting Authority
of South Africa, NPA, has obtained a court order
to freeze the money.
The NPA, in a statement sent to PREMIUM
TIMES Wednesday said that the manner which
the money was brought into the
country breached the country’s laws that deal
with the transfer of foreign exchange of such
proportion.
“The money was initially detained by the South
African Revenue Service (SARS) as it was not
disclosed or declared at customs, and was
above the prescribed legal limit for the amount
of cash that may be brought into the country,”
it said in a statement.
Investigators also cast serious doubt on the
Nigerian government’s explanation that the
money was meant for the procurement of arms
and that it has provided documents and receipt
to back its legitimacy, raising serious concern
that suspects might have been in the process
of laundering the money before it was
intercepted.
The NPA said its investigation shows that Tier
One Services Group, the firm Nigerian
government claimed it wanted to procure the
arms from, is not authorised to sell or rent
military hardware.
“In court papers, the NPA submitted evidence
that Tier One is not registered with the National
Conventional Arms Control Committee and is
thus not authorised to enter into any
agreements regarding the sale and/or rental of
military equipment,” the statement read.
Tier One has apparently issued an invoice to a
Cyprus based company, ESD International
Group Ltd, ESD, in respect of the procurement
of armaments and helicopters to be delivered to
Nigeria. However, South African investigators
said the time when the invoice was prepared
and the time the money was brought in threw
up some serious issues of its true intent.
The money was ferried to South Africa less than
a week from the date the invoice was prepared
(September 8, 2014).
The involvement of a Cyprus based company
also heightens the suspicion that this may be a
case of classical money laundering. Cyprus is
notorious for its secretive banking system,
which attracts shady characters and corrupt
politicians looking to dry-clean ill-gotten funds.
The NPA added that the transaction did not
follow normal procedure in the procurement of
the kind of equipment it was alleged to have
been meant for.
Source: Premium Times [/b]

I have o. And I made sure I tagged shewun.

Thank God the source is Ifeanyi's Premium times!

Seun, front page.

berem: Ifeanyichukwu couldn't defend his paymaster he had to run to S.eun to yank off the thread from front page? What a sissie!

Even bigger a sissie is the one that takes orders from a sycophantic sissie like ifeanyi!

1United1: No Longer on the Front Page! Yanked off!
Cc: Berem

I knew Seun was going to yank it off FP. Let's guess the excuse he'll give...

berem: who cares what rule it is? A damn I giveth not!
Nothing dey happen!

Nothing o!

berem: it will never be yanked off! Not when I am still a nairalander.

Careful. "They" can accuse you of planning a coup. An offence punishable by rule 22.

berem: You have been mute ever since the illegal arms deal by Jonathan and Ayatollah bin Oritsejafor started. What do you have tonsay in this matter?

Clearly, he has nothing to say. Wonder why he included Seun's name in his post? To make him yank it off FP, I guess.

Amandbob: Its seem 2 me dat d Roman catholic church would prefer a quiet leader who as was d case wen dey we're in charge wil summit 2d muslims. Dey can as well pull out of christianity who cares

Now that Oritsehafor has been outspoken, have they stopped killing Christians? Have they stopped attacking Christian communities?
Has BH reduced their attacks?

And no, the Catholic church WILL not pull out of Christianity. It is the progenitor of Christianity Can a man pull out his own head?

berem: Are you actually who I am thinking she is? If yes,I missed you!

Yes. .

berem: I dunno o! Honestly I don't why they are MIA.

Hian. I hope thay weren't banned sha. Good night morning!

saytan: Are you sure this sunny oibe is a Christian, he sure speaks like a satanist!

He and Oritsejafor have jointly divided C.A.N. He was the one that signed the so called "press release".

berem: Yes he's the new Bishop of Sokoto diocese. I used to know him way back when he was a visiting priest at Holy Family Catholic Church Festac Town until he was transfered to Abuja before he was ordained a Bishop lately.
Funny and intelligent man I must confess.

Very true.

Have you seen/heard from ngeneukwenu and obiagelli? Tbey've been MIA.

berem: That is why I so much respect Bishop Mathew Hassan Kukah! A clergy who knows so much about politics unbiasely. You can never hear him speak to favour any party. You need to watch that summit he anchored which he had discussions with Fashola and Sule Lamido.

Bishop of diocese of Sokoto, right? Intelligent man. Never watched the submit sha, I'll try searching for it on YouTube.

I see the thing missed out in getting a good education. I bet Catholic missionaries didn't reach your town early enough to liberate you from your perpetual illiteracy.
Divisive hediot!

kokoA: You can never compare the respect these bishops command worldwide with what you pastor gets in Nigeria.. Can El'rufai, GEJ or anybody in Nigeria address bishop Onaiyekan, Cardinal Okogie, bishop Akinola, bishop mba, etc like the way they address this current CAN president? No! This is because these men respect themselves and stay out of politics as much as possible, they only offer their words of advice when necessary and everybody (irrespective of religion) respect them. Unlike the current president who shamelessly announce to the whole world that he supports GEJ/PDP.. I'm a christian but I will speak my mind when I see wrong.

Kindly ignore the pastor-worshipping 21st century Christian. The Catholic church has refused to take sides with any political party, a stand he and his masters have found extremely hard to digest!

atlwireles: We copied from your Islamist movements in Nigeria. CAN has perfected the formula, all hail Pastor Ayo.

If not romancing with thieves would make THE CHURCH that, then so be it! The CHURCH would forever remain undefiled for not associating with thieves in power. Now, shove your unbridled allegations up your excretory opening. Insufferable fawner!

atlwireles: CAN is more vibrant today, than any time, I can remember. We will never again return to days of Catholics leading CAN. As you can see, you have not been missed. You and your Bishops can keep on breaking fast with your sultan leader, just count Pastor Ayo out.

Yeah, vibrant as a political arm.

atlwireles: John Onaiyekan, the favorite CAN spokes person of the islamist. There lies the problem.

The Catholic church has long since pulled out of C.A.N, a semi dead association. The Anglican, Methodist and Baptist churches are the only churches keeping C.A.N. Without them, it is DEAD!

goodslayer: front page oooooooo
cc seun
mukina2
mynd44
obinoscopy
and who have the powers to grant my request.

Quoted to prevent the "I didn't see it excuse".

@topic: C.A.N has never had it this bad. Imagine the bling-bling wearing Donjazzy prototype, Oritsejafor hiding under the church to defend his sinful actions?! How can any sane creature compare this omi Iwere buruku to John Onaiyekan?!

It's Donjafor again

How can this _retard compare pyrate confraternity, aka "The magnificent seven", a group formed to end social and ethnic discrimination in the then University College Ibadan to Boko haram, a group of savages he sponsors?

Dear Ali modu Sheriff, go and face your inquiry (ies), and stop your unreasonable and baseless comparisons. _Foolish murderer!

brownlord: And the jet?

Highly unlikely. Actually, both are, but the pilots are more important. . .

It is most unfortunate. I pray the pilots are found alive.