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swashbuckler84:
What gold standard? Every Bible is a translation of the original ancient Hebrew. The only thing special about the King James version is that it was the version used to colonize us.

It was written in that era's English so that the people of that time could understand their Bibles. They didn't also keep a copy of the previous era's translations so they could do literary analysis.

That's why I deliberately put 'gold' in inverted comas. Thank God for the version because it seems to convey some power or force or spirituality that many relatively modern versions don't seem to have. My personal experience and the experience of many that I know. Reading the version resonates more with the Spirit of God in us.

swashbuckler84:
I advise Nigerians to stop reading the King James translation of the Bible and read a translation they can understand. Before some illiterate so called pastor comes along to misinterpret verses for you in the name of "reading with the spirit."

Not stop but read other versions too.

The KJV is the 'gold' standard. We shouldn't jettison it.

A vitally important question!

Reasons people don't read the Bible:
1) No interest at all. These are mostly non-Christians
2) Mere church goers not 'Christian' by New Testament definition. They are not born again.
3) Christians who are just too busy.
4) Christians who are just too lazy.
5) Motivational teachings and such have diluted the word of God.
6) Some Christians are contented with prophetic declarations.
7) People are preoccupied with miracles, signs and wonders. They seek short cuts to solutions.
A sign of the end times:

2 Timothy

4:1 I charge thee therefore before God, and the Lord Jesus Christ, who shall judge the quick and the dead at his appearing and his kingdom;

4:2 Preach the word; be instant in season, out of season; reprove, rebuke, exhort with all longsuffering and doctrine.

4:3 For the time will come when they will not endure sound doctrine; but after their own lusts shall they heap to themselves teachers, having itching ears;

4:4 And they shall turn away their ears from the truth, and shall be turned unto fables.

Finally, it goes beyond mere reading of the Bible but studying, memorization, meditation, declaration and obedience to it.

AI is a door for demonic operations through its fuzzy logic platform.

Sex with sex dolls opens doors to demonic capture of participating souls. Also another satanic way to ridicule God and desecrate / debase the 'image' of God through foolish and ignorant men and women.

End times are on. More wicked, unholy and ungodly things to come.

Good. Gender equality!!

This message is antichrist.

jeff1607:
I guess when teaching an issue or topic it brings about the discussion of other topics


If issues concerning the family are been discussed definitely salvation would be talked about, when I was little when issues concerning family is discussed, they also talk about Armageddon and we the little ones with our little mind would hope an pray we all goto heaven together with our parents and sibling, so we would behave well so we would make heaven . Preaching the word,sharing no matter how little, helping the needy etc all boils down to act or walk the way Jesus christ did.



As a child if you had a mental picture of how rapture would be eh, you go behave

I COMPLETELY AGREE WITH YOU. A LARGE SECTION OF THE CHURCH ESPECIALLY IN THIS PART OF THE WORLD IS PREOCCUPIED WITH PROGRAMS & PROJECTS RATHER THAN PEOPLE AS INDIVIDUALS AND FAMILIES.

THE CHURCH STARTED IN PEOPLE'S HOMES AND I BELIEVE WILL END THAT WAY BEFORE CHRIST RETURNS.

THE NARRATIVE THEN WAS :

Acts 11:14

Who shall tell thee words, whereby thou and ALL THY HOUSE shall be saved.

jeff1607:
We hear of prosperity and the likes, gone are they days when a Sunday would be set aside to talk about issues concerning family values, how parents should handle a situation in the home and marriage , especially for young intending couples.

What about teaching and preaching about the end times?

Very useful. Thanks.

doctokwus:
Nigerians who think the coming of Dangote refinery and these other private refineries would automatically bring an end to periodic scarcity,and most importantly that the prices would be cheaper or at least less than N145 are in for a shocker.

Possible. But it's a step forward. Let's keep hope alive.

Good. Very good. May it continue to rise.

Apocalypse loading!

To God be the glory!

WHEN AND HOW DID JERUSALEM BECOME THE CAPITAL OF PALESTINE?

HOW DID THE NAME PALESTINE COME TO BE?

ANYWAY HEAR THE WORD OF THE LORD GOD OF ISRAEL:

Zechariah

12:1 The burden of the word of the LORD for Israel, saith the LORD, which stretcheth forth the heavens, and layeth the foundation of the earth, and formeth the spirit of man within him.

12:2 Behold, I will make Jerusalem a cup of trembling unto all the people round about, when they shall be in the siege both against Judah and against Jerusalem.

12:3 And in that day WILL I MAKE JERUSALEM A BURDENSOME STONE FOR ALL PEOPLE: ALL THAT BURDEN THEMSELVES WITH IT SHALL BE CUT IN PIECES, THOUGH ALL THE PEOPLE OF THE EARTH BE GATHERED TOGETHER AGAINST IT.

12:4 In that day, saith the LORD, I will smite every horse with astonishment, and his rider with madness: and I will open mine eyes upon the house of Judah, and will smite every horse of the people with blindness.

12:5 And the governors of Judah shall say in their heart, The inhabitants of Jerusalem shall be my strength in the LORD of hosts their God.

12:6 In that day will I make the governors of Judah like an hearth of fire among the wood, and like a torch of fire in a sheaf; and they shall devour all the people round about, on the right hand and on the left: and Jerusalem shall be inhabited again in her own place, even in Jerusalem.

12:7 The LORD also shall save the tents of Judah first, that the glory of the house of David and the glory of the inhabitants of Jerusalem do not magnify themselves against Judah.

12:8 In that day shall the LORD defend the inhabitants of Jerusalem; and he that is feeble among them at that day shall be as David; and the house of David shall be as God, as the angel of the LORD before them.

12:9 And it shall come to pass in that day, that I WILL SEEK TO DESTROY ALL THE NATIONS THAT COME AGAINST JERUSALEM.

Zechariah

12:1 The burden of the word of the LORD for Israel, saith the LORD, which stretcheth forth the heavens, and layeth the foundation of the earth, and formeth the spirit of man within him.

12:2 Behold, I will make Jerusalem a cup of trembling unto all the people round about, when they shall be in the siege both against Judah and against Jerusalem.

12:3 And in that day WILL I MAKE JERUSALEM A BURDENSOME STONE FOR ALL PEOPLE: ALL THAT BURDEN THEMSELVES WITH IT SHALL BE CUT IN PIECES, THOUGH ALL THE PEOPLE OF THE EARTH BE GATHERED TOGETHER AGAINST IT.

12:4 In that day, saith the LORD, I will smite every horse with astonishment, and his rider with madness: and I will open mine eyes upon the house of Judah, and will smite every horse of the people with blindness.

12:5 And the governors of Judah shall say in their heart, The inhabitants of Jerusalem shall be my strength in the LORD of hosts their God.

12:6 In that day will I make the governors of Judah like an hearth of fire among the wood, and like a torch of fire in a sheaf; and they shall devour all the people round about, on the right hand and on the left: and Jerusalem shall be inhabited again in her own place, even in Jerusalem.

12:7 The LORD also shall save the tents of Judah first, that the glory of the house of David and the glory of the inhabitants of Jerusalem do not magnify themselves against Judah.

12:8 In that day shall the LORD defend the inhabitants of Jerusalem; and he that is feeble among them at that day shall be as David; and the house of David shall be as God, as the angel of the LORD before them.

12:9 And it shall come to pass in that day, that I WILL SEEK TO DESTROY ALL THE NATIONS THAT COME AGAINST JERUSALEM.

Zechariah

12:1 The burden of the word of the LORD for Israel, saith the LORD, which stretcheth forth the heavens, and layeth the foundation of the earth, and formeth the spirit of man within him.

12:2 Behold, I will make Jerusalem a cup of trembling unto all the people round about, when they shall be in the siege both against Judah and against Jerusalem.

12:3 And in that day will I make Jerusalem a burdensome stone for all people: all that burden themselves with it shall be cut in pieces, though all the people of the earth be gathered together against it.

12:4 In that day, saith the LORD, I will smite every horse with astonishment, and his rider with madness: and I will open mine eyes upon the house of Judah, and will smite every horse of the people with blindness.

12:5 And the governors of Judah shall say in their heart, The inhabitants of Jerusalem shall be my strength in the LORD of hosts their God.

12:6 In that day will I make the governors of Judah like an hearth of fire among the wood, and like a torch of fire in a sheaf; and they shall devour all the people round about, on the right hand and on the left: and Jerusalem shall be inhabited again in her own place, even in Jerusalem.

12:7 The LORD also shall save the tents of Judah first, that the glory of the house of David and the glory of the inhabitants of Jerusalem do not magnify themselves against Judah.

12:8 In that day shall the LORD defend the inhabitants of Jerusalem; and he that is feeble among them at that day shall be as David; and the house of David shall be as God, as the angel of the LORD before them.

12:9 And it shall come to pass in that day, that I will seek to destroy all the nations that come against Jerusalem.

Unfortunate statement especially coming from a woman!

God designed both sexes to have orgasm but culture and religion destroyed that for the woman.

Removing the clito.ri.s is a wicked gender action but women can still have orgasm without it in the hand of a loving husband who knows the tricks.

.....nor did He ask us to celebrate His birthday!

Pagans hijacked Christianity and gave the world Xmas.

We get preoccupied with what we were not asked to do and leave undone what we were commanded to do. Where is Father Xmas and all the occult paraphenelia of the festival in the Bible?

Marriage is a choice.

Good but the jeans!

Actually its a youth thing. In time he most likely will outgrow it and when he looks back at this picture in future he may wonder what made him do it!

ibietela2:
What is their problem with pre-marital sex? instead of educating the kids on how to use protection or preach both using protection and pre-marital sex.

what kinda of country is this filled with hypocrites?

The problem with pre-marital sex: sin against God, humanity and self.

Whether or not you believe in the God who created sex to be engaged in as adults in love and life commitment. Whether or not this truth is a present reality.

HumbleGee:
An average jss3 student already knows about sex without being taught in the school..sex education is something parents should teach their children..unfortunately most parents are either to busy or dont have the courage to bring up the matter

Actually many parents also lack reproductive health knowledge. They need to seek the knowledge too or go for training too.

Depends on content taught.

It is good to have knowledge about human reproduction, how to prevent conception and what to do when pregnant. But not to promote abstinence for the young, man-woman marriage and faithfulness in such marital norm will be anti-God and anti-humanity.

More chop money for them!

How many people driving have 100k?

I'm amazed. How can people blame Buhari for this? Did he make any of the cakes?

Whoever made the 'Nigeria' cake must have been an amateur.

Was Buhari voted in because of cake making?

What's their business? Who defines what decent or indecent dressing is? Bunch of hypocrites!

charlesotk:
I will but not today... Pls bear with me... Thanks

Will remind you if you forget.

charlesotk:
Instead I think your Bible knowledge needs realignment. You are almost there cos some of your statements are correct.

Please realign it on the subject.

SalamRushdie:
So she intentionally set out to go the bar ceremony to cause problems being the the Adherent of the religion of peace she is ..I maintain this silly girl is being sponsored for Bigger agenda by people within the NBA and the govt who in coming months will make Hijab wearing okay for female muslim lawyers and Judges in our common law courts...just watch and see

She's following a script!

ChristianFreedo:
DOES SCRIPTURE TEACH THAT THE “GREAT CROWD” WILL LIVE FOREVER ON EARTH?

We have already mentioned that the Bible NEVER claims that the “New Covenant” privileges of eternal life in Heaven exclude everyone but the people in a select group of 144,000. On the contrary, Scripture proclaims:

- There is only “one hope”—not “two hopes” (an earthly and a heavenly hope) (Ephesians 4:4).
- Many Old Testament believers will be in Heaven (Matthew 8:11; Luke 13:28; Hebrews 11:10, 16).
- All people must be “born again” to see God’s Kingdom (John 3:3, 5).
- “ Everyone believing that Jesus is the Christ has been born from God” (1 John 5:1).
- Spiritual adoption is for “all” who are led by God’s Spirit (Romans 8:14-16).
- Jesus Christ is the “mediator” between all “mankind” (1 Timothy 2:5).
- Followers of Jesus must “eat the flesh of the Son of man and drink his blood” by partaking in the symbolic Lord’s Evening meal in order to have everlasting life (John 6:53).
- The “Great Crowd” will be “before the throne” and serving God “day and night” in His temple in Heaven when Armageddon breaks out (Revelation 7:9, 15; 16:16-17).
- “After these things I heard what was as a loud voice of a great crowd in heaven ” (Revelation 19:1).

Notice that NO condition in these passages assigns the terms “all” and “everyone” to a select group of only 144,000 believers. Rather these promises are open to “everyone” who believes. Furthermore, if the 144,000 are to be “sealed” (protected) from the tribulation wrath of God that has yet to send upon the earth as Revelation 7:3 clearly describes, how could this group have been living in the first century when these New Covenant promises were given to Jesus’ followers? Thus, when the entire context of Scripture is considered, the Jehovah’s Witness two-class belief system is clearly impossible to sustain from the text of Scripture.

WHY DO JEHOVAH’S WITNESSES FEAR ARMAGEDDON?

As if the Watchtower Society’s denial of basic Christian New Covenant privileges wasn’t enough, the Society goes a step further to instill a deep fear of the wrath of God that will be poured out upon wicked mankind during the Great Tribulation and the Battle of Armageddon described in Revelation chapter 16.

Although 1 Thessalonians 5:9 promises Christians that: “…God assigned us, not to wrath, but to the acquiring of salvation through our Lord Jesus Christ,” Jehovah’s Witnesses believe that Jehovah God will test their loyalty by having them endure His wrath throughout the entire Tribulation period and the Battle of Armageddon. The only way Jehovah’s Witnesses are told that they will have a chance at surviving this terrible “end” of world governments is to serve the Watchtower organization faithfully in hopes that Jehovah will spare their lives when He brings His judgment.

These fears are totally unfounded because not only are the 144,000 “sealed” from God’s wrath at Revelation 7:3, but the “Great Crowd” is protected as well because the “Son of Man” (Jesus) will send forth His angels to gather His followers to Heaven before His final judgment hits the earth.

“…they will see the Son of man coming on the clouds of heaven with power and great glory. And he will send forth his angels with a great trumpet sound, and they will gather his chosen ones together from the four winds, from one extremity of the heavens to their other extremity.”—Matthew 24:30-31

Thus, immediately following the “sealing” of the 144,000 in Revelation 7:4-8, we read of the position of the “Great Crowd” being “before the throne” of God in Heaven:

“After these things I saw, and, look! a great crowd, which no man was able to number, out of all nations and tribes and peoples and tongues, standing before the throne and before the Lamb, dressed in white robes; and there were palm branches in their hands.”—Revelation 7:9

Verse 11 of Revelation 7 elaborates on the location of this “great crowd” when it speaks of “all the angels” who, like the “great crowd,” are worshiping “before the throne.” Furthermore, the “great crowd” is identified at verse 14 as being “the ones that come out of the great tribulation,” all of which occurs BEFORE Armageddon in Revelation 16. Likewise, Revelation 7:15 boldly proclaims:

“That is why they are before the throne of God; and they are rendering him sacred service day and night in his temple; and the One seated on the throne will spread his tent over them.”

This “temple” is indeed “in Heaven” as Revelation 11:19 explains:

“And the temple [sanctuary] of God that is in heaven was opened, and the ark of his covenant was seen in his temple [sanctuary]. And there occurred lightings and voices and thunders and an earthquake and a great hail.”

As a result, members of “great crowd” of Revelation 19:1 have a reason to rejoice “in heaven”!

“After these things I heard what was as a loud voice of a great crowd in heaven. They said: ‘Praise Jah, YOU people! The salvation and the glory and the power belong to our God.’ ”

Attempting to avoid the clear implications of the “great crowd in heaven” phrase of Revelation 19:1, some Jehovah’s Witnesses argue that this “great crowd” must be a crowd of “angels” instead of humans. However, it is noteworthy that this “great crowd in heaven” is singing of the “salvation” of “our God.” We ask, how these angels could possibly be singing of their “salvation” when humans are the only creatures that God saves? Since angels in Heaven have no redemption or “salvation” to sing about because they never sinned and “fallen angels” are not offered “redemption” whatsoever, Jehovah’s Witness arguments again fail the test of Scripture. With the “great crowd” being “in heaven,” serving “day and night” in God’s “temple,” and singing of the “salvation” of “our God,” we see that the Watchtower fear of Armageddon is completely baseless.

WATCHTOWER ARGUMENTS AGAINST REVELATION 7:15 EXPOSED:

The Watchtower has consistently offered several arguments to try to reconcile their conflicting beliefs with the Biblical text of Revelation 7:15. The May 1, 2002 issue of The Watchtower, admitted that one of the arguments the Society has given over the years was the idea “that the great crowd worships Jehovah in one of the earthly courtyards of his great spiritual temple, specifically the one that corresponds with the outer courtyard of Solomon’s temple.” This article went on to provide several points of new light that disproved their earlier claims about the temple being somehow “one of the earthly courtyards” or the “Court of the Gentiles.” They noted that:



On the surface, it would appear that the Watchtower Society has finally admitted the error of their reasoning against the “great crowd” serving in the inner courtyard of the Heavenly temple, and admitted that their arguments cannot be reconciled with the Biblical text of Revelation 7:15. Yet, regardless of the evidence they provide for the Greek word (na-os’)translated “temple” at Revelation 7:15 meaning the “sanctuary” or “the Holy of Holies” (which could only refer to the innermost portion of the Temple and therefore must be in Heaven), they refuse to accept this evidence and stubbornly stick to their faulty claim that:



Yet, not only do we see in Revelation 7:15 that the “great crowd” is serving Jehovah “day and night” in the “Holy of Holies” of God’s temple “in Heaven”, but we read that their standing “before the throne and before the Lamb” (Revelation 7:9) is the same as the angels’ worship “before the throne” (Revelation 7:11). Therefore, we can only conclude the “great crowd” is “in Heaven” by the point when we read all the terrible things that will happen to those who refuse God’s plan of salvation in Christ Jesus. Indeed, this is what Revelation 7:15-17 says about the pleasures that the “great crowd” will enjoy as they are “in Heaven” while Armageddon breaks out upon the earth:

“That is why they are before the throne of God; and they are rendering him sacred service day and night in his temple; and the One seated on the throne will spread his tent over them. They will hunger no more nor thirst anymore, neither will the sun beat down upon them nor any scorching heat, because the Lamb, who is in the midst of the throne, will shepherd them, and will guide them to fountains of waters of life. And God will wipe out every tear from their eyes.”—Revelation 7:15-17

Jehovah Witnesses are wrong, dead Wrong!

144,000 are Jews

The Great Crowd are people from all nations IN CHRIST including Jews who have become converted.

They're raptured and are in heaven before Armegedon the last war before the 1000 yr rule of Christ.

2horsePOWER:
Are there any religious backing?
is it even right?
why spend so much money?
Yes, it is certain everybody will die, death is sure
but is death really worth celebrating
Lately,I have been thinking if thr's really the need for it.
Why not just drop the dead 6ft underground and thats it! everybody leave for their home.
Instead of disturbing the dead with so much noise.

What are your views?

Wrong. Very wrong.