₦airaland Forum

Afam4eva: WOW! They say wonders shall never end. is Obasanjo not an integral part of the cabal that the opposition parties have been fighting. All of a sudden they're hobnobbing the same person they called satan just a few years back.

Some of you do not know the pitiable state Nigeria is that is why you are still thinking it is business as usual. Nigeria is at a very critical juncture and all hands needs to be on deck to prevent Her from sliding down into abyss.

Jonathan is like a drunkard with a machine gun packed full with bullets, rather using it to kill enemies of the state on the battle ground, He is killing the forces of the state instead. You cannot let such a man live long on the battle ground! You decimate Him very quickly and that is what these meetings are all about

The Storm is only just beginning to gather, wait until 2014, like Ahaz, so is GEJ and We all know how Ahaz ended

shymexx: I just watched the video again. And there's absolutely nothing disrespectful in what the guy did. He was being assertive and that's what you need in a question and answer section, when people are being grilled. They're both public officers and you can never allow yourself to be timid, or weak, when trying to get answers off someone. The guy isn't a journalist, for crying out loud.

I honestly don't understand Nigerians and their inane mentality. Not everyone gives a darn about your "status" or "qualifications." When you're a public servant and in the field, expect to be the grilled.

If you want to know what being blatantly disrespectful is - go watch the exchanges between Gordon Brown (when he was PM) vs. David Cameron (leader of the opposition), in the UK parliament. Cameron called the PM, "a phony" - but no one cried about it. It's part of the game.

My brother these ones are still suffering and smiling as usual! Imagine if PM&Q was to be held in Nigeria every week, only God knows what these lackeys would be screaming.

The Minister lied, brought no proof that she was sick, no Doctors letter, nothing, yet even though the committee chairman was being lenient with Her, She had the guts to still open Her mouth.

Ngwakwe: Probably you lack the exposure and haven't been opportuned to work in such an environment where civility and character are more important than the office you occupy or your level of interaction and knowledge of work ethics is appalling hence you blindness to egocentric display and rudeness in Mr Chairman's response and replies.

I am sorry you seems to lack an understanding of what work ethics means! Do you know the operational code of conduct of the House Reps for you to call the committee chairman's response appalling?

The mere fact Nnogzi lied to the HOR committee members should demand a reprimand and I think the committee chairman was even kind to her. Else, I would have addressed Her to the extent she would learn how not to take institutions for a ride.

taharqa: STOP trying so hard guy to remove every doubt that you think like an IJIOT from d minds of those persons that do not yet know you. Let only those of us who know both you and extent of yr fooolishness, be d ones that wud keep d thoughts. Plz, I am begging you; from one human to another....

I have told you before, you are by far less clever than my neighbour's pet lobster! To imagine these thoughts exist in the head of a human being is really pathetic.

Sane posters on here knows your handle as one of a pathological liar with snared devilish heart that praise sing darkness. A pathetic soul.

publisher: [size=13pt]You are a dirty liar! Of course we had a handful of musicians doing well back in the 60s/70s but how wide spread was it? How many small boyz and girls of those days became millionaires after just ONE HIT SINGLE

Use ur head abeg!

Which one be 'local domestic liberalisation' and 'hard working governors'? So,in other words, FASHOLA had something to do with Psquare's or Dbanj's success? He is the one that pays to buy their albums,and pays people to attend their concerts? Abi na 'Hard working governors' they offer them brand endorsements?

Which hardworking governor is responsible FLAVOUR'S popularity in Kenya,Cameroon and Gabon?

Oh boy.....you need help and prayers.

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Is it any surprise that you know next to nothing about how how wealthy most Nigerian musicians of the 60s and 80s were? Goes to show you were born yesterday and only just had a glimpse of wealth.

Unlike the musicians of the 60s or 80s who had their companies based in nigeria, promoters based in Nigeria and the wealth they created overseas were repatriated to Nigeria, most of these new generation artist work from abroad, with companies who pay taxes abroad, do promos abroad and the Nigeria economy does not really benefit directly from their activities.

This year alone in London O2 AREANA, several nigeria based artist have come down to do performance, with companies based in the UK promoting the show. For every £1 spent by people going to the show, nigeria benefits less than 0.35p in direct remission back to the economy. Even when it comes to endorsement, most of the promoters who get these artist endorsed by big companies in Nigeria or West Africa are not based in Nigeria and do not pay taxes to the Nigeria government.

This is why the Nollywood industry is completely different and have direct and traceable link in terms of foreign earnings that accrue to the nigeria state because most of the promoters, distributors, producers are based or have their company based in Nigeria and what they sell abroad, vast majority come back home.

taharqa: Another booth of Arrant NONSENSE again....

Hehe... I am sorry to inform you that your puppet and corrupt master is a sour in the flesh of nigeria and Nigerians and He should get out of the way so nigeria can grow.

I am sure your saw in that report that the real growth since 2010 may well be below 6%! Meaning your criminal pay master has being dragging nation backward with His criminal and self centred voodoo economic policies.

publisher: [size=13pt]You are a dirty liar! Of course we had a handful of musicians doing well back in the 60s/70s but how wide spread was it? How many small boyz and girls of those days became millionaires after just ONE HIT SINGLE

Use ur head abeg!

Which one be 'local domestic liberalisation' and 'hard working governors'? So,in other words, FASHOLA had something to do with Psquare's or Dbanj's success? He is the one that pays to buy their albums,and pays people to attend their concerts? Abi na 'Hard working governors' they offer them brand endorsements?

Which hardworking governor is responsible FLAVOUR'S popularity in Kenya,Cameroon and Gabon?

Oh boy.....you need help and prayers.
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Is it surprising that you cannot connect the dotted lines and know where the growth Nigeria is currently witnessing comes from? Let me educate you a little. Most of those musicians you mentioned barely contribute to the Nigeria local economy.the shows you made reference to are they promoted by Nigeria based companies who pay taxes to the nigeria coffers? The tours by flavour and co, are they organised by Nigeria based companies who does business in Nigeria and pay taxes in Nigeria?

As for my statement about local domestic liberalisation of the towns, villages and pseudo urban towns visit a viz the hard working governors. Any keen observe in Nigeria would notice how villages hitherto locked away from the big Burbank cities are gradually being opened up by rural projects e.g roads, being executed by some governors. This for example , has resulted in most rural dwellers having access to bigger markets to sell and buys goods more than before and most urban dwellers now are able to penetrate these rural areas and also increase their market reach. I know most of you do not understand how these impact of the economy hence the reason you sing praises of governors or ministers who buy bullet proof cars.

A good case study I will use which I know very well is in Edo State. Over the past four years, several villages hitherto locked out of Benin City due to bad roads, lack of schools etc are now coming back to life since the governor started building roads to connect this villages. In Edo central, there is village close to Ugboha that used to have nearly 80% of their agricultural produce destroyed, with people paying twice for some commodities because those who brought them priced the commodity exorbitantly because they know these villagers could not afford to bring these commodities in themselves. With the government constructing a new road to link the village, transporters from Benin now ply that village route and the people hare able to access the bigger market in a Benin City and elsewhere.

These are the sorts of things some hard working governors are doing that is the bone of the growth you are seeing in the Nigerian economy. Hence the real reason many of us are clamouring to devour power from centre and strength the local councils as they will be the ones to unlock that true growth and development potential of the rural dwellers.

I can go on and explain further to let confused minds like you know that GEJ's government has contributed very little to the growth we are witnessing and I fact He is like a salt in a soured flesh

musiwa112: I dont think Jonathan can win in 2015.. This is my honest opinion, if the election was free and fair.

I hate to deceive people. Look Jonathan can not win western Nigeria. He cant win northern nigeria. The only place he is sure of winning is eastern Nigeria. Which is very small.

Most people, I believe want change.

Like I said before. it is better they break it up to protect the people.


because people are voting against jonathan, does not mean, they will vote for the APC. after the cross over by PDP members,, people see APC as PDP.

people are not against jonathan because he is a minority. been a minority is not the reason why people are against. they are against him because of satellite picture. nobody want to die. so breaking nigeria is the solution.. i bet my life on it.

Just when you think musiwa was making sense for the first time on NL, He proves you wrong with the bold part of His post! GEJ don enter one chance....

[quote author=gboye_1999]Not in all cases as he has quoted...

I just paid a mason man 3,500NGN as day wage yesterday.
I paid a labor or field hand 2,500NGN as a day wage....
The security guy in my compound earns 18,000NGN a month..... Not much but beats the 1 dollar a day toga...

My wife patronizes a tomato/pepper/vegetable seller who is building her own house somewhere in the southwest.
My mechanic bills 3,000 for servicing my car: oil change, brake pads, etc ( a job he probably does attending to at least 2 other cars simultaneously) has his kid studying Mech. Engineering in Unilorin and told me he is saving towards sending him for his masters outside the country

What we need to realize is that this guys actually earn more than what we imagine....[/quote]This is the more reason we need to tell the story ourselves rather than rely on others to do it for us. When I hear that stupid statement of less than $1 a day, I ask myself, how can the supposedly educated economist from the West not realise that a plate of rice with two giant black cat fish and stew with Spaghetti on the side, and two toppings of salad is worth more than N70 on the down scale, not to talk of the drinks that follow. The average low income earner eats this at least twice a day.

It amazes me how the western press keep spewing that rubbish one line sentence, especially the stupid Shola Odunfa of the BBC Africa Service who come across as half baked journalist that can't event put in a proper reportage of news event of a state visit.

publisher: [size=13pt]God will save some negative Nigerians o.....

Okay,let's ask ourselves,about 10/15 years ago,how much did Nigerian entertainers earn? Did we have millionaire musicians,comedians,actor,actresses,DANCERS,Producers, Directors,Radio/TV presenters, Bloggers,Events organizer Wouldn't all these people have been part of our poor masses if Nigeria's economy had not grown big enough to accommodate a vibrant entertainment industry?

I've not even mentioned the cell fone/recharge card vendors,cashiers at shopping malls,online retailers,Tellers at banks,Tricycle operators,technicians and of late FARMERS.

Some people here will only agree that Nigeria is improving when government knocks on every Nigerians' door daily and offer them pocket money.

Truth is Nigeria's economy has improved greatly and with the successful privatization of PHCN,things can only get better on the longrun. Some improvements have already started,at least if you visit any former PHCN office today,you'ld notice a more organised set up.

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I am sure ten years ago, you were still roaming the streets in your village, hence the reason you did not know that Nigeria musicians right from the 60s were mega rich taking into account the Naira value!

The earning power of most Nigerians have not changed considerably in the last ten years, rather what have changed is the population of those earning decent wages have upscaled, that is why nigeria is now regarded as a middle income earning country.

Stop attributing the growth Nigeria has witness in her economy to one inept puppet in Aso rock. Even though I have so much to say against Obasanjo, however, to His credit, several bold reforms He initiated is still one of the reasons the country is standing today even in the face of the blatant looting of the highest proportion by the present corrupt and visionless government.

If anything, I would attribute the meagre growth in the economy to the local domestic liberalisation of the towns and pseudo urban towns by some hard working governors as the main contributing factors rather than any bold policy of growth by the government in centre. Facts abound to buttress my conclusion further.

Emusan, may the Spirit of Wisdom and Understanding strengthen you and May Gods hand be strong upon you. Through you God has demonstrated His might by destroying the falsehood this OP conjured up here with a simple truth!

@OP..."hear Now oh yea House of David" !

You need to be born again before you can receive insight into Gods word. Flesh and blood will not reveal the deep secrets of the scriptures to you.

May Gods Spirit open your eyes and fill you with a triple passion for good more than satan has filled you will a venom of hatred and falsehood.

tosan200: That's the problem with you people , you are just exhibit king your ignorance on this forum. You made a mistake, just accept it and move on.

My brother, He has nothing to contribute to intelligent discuss such as this thread. Just go check His postings, you would notice whenever threads of intellectual discuss prop up, He resorts to falsehood and can barely contribute other than seek to derail it. Many of us who have been here for long know His type and the darkness they represent on NL.

toluene12: Its too early to say nigeria now has the largest economy in africa. As at 2011 SA has a gdp of around $400 billion and at a growth rate of 3%, they should be above 405 billion. Their last estimate pegged it at $411 billion. Lets wait for the official report b4 we conclude.

Just do the maths in excel, if the country GDP as at 2010 was ESTIMATED to be $411bn and since then has seen a growth rate of less than 1%, with a revised figure of 0.7% for 2013, what do you think the current GDP figure will be?

all4naija: Where are my South African Zulu brothers to contest the validity of this re-base information?

My brother, I think we should be more interested in the breakdown of the sectors that have shown appreciable growth and seek how we can best improve upon them than worrying about those SA and their innate hatred for Nigeria and Nigerians.

Analyst since 2005 have always predicted that by 2014 or 2018, Nigeria will over take SA has the biggest economy in Africa and will continue to grow aleast minimum 6% GDP year on year, but for us to have real development impact by growth, we would need to have a GDP year on year growth figure of 12%.

manny4life: Let me guess, it's you who has the intellectual capacity to understand the topic? Don't hate the player, hate the game. What I don't understand is why you're bent on making a foool of yourself, when someone is intellectually bereft, what do you do? Exit immediately, but you're doing the opposite, that speaks much of your intelligence. Your brain haven't interpreted so far that I'm making a foolll of you, when relevant posters arrive, I will contribute but for now, you're irrelevant, and I don't have time for you because you're blowing hot air, and nothing else.

Hehe.. this one is on the road to suicide before December 25th! Stick to thread and stop spreading falsehood then you would not have people like me blowing you the truth right in your face!

[quote author=Red-Light]botsawana

*rushes to google to check their gdp*

WTF Botswana GDP - 14.41 billion

damn! even dangote could buy that freaking nation
botsawana also wants to show muscle [/quote]You believe that one is from Botswana? If you knew any black South African, then you would know by her letters that shes not a botswana!

Chio! Some people will die of high blood pressure seeing that pikture

Not sure Sambo who happen to be the second worst VP Nigeria has ever had ( with GEJ been the first) would want to compare Himself with EL Rufai's achievement in governance and public service.

What can Sambo point to as His contribution that is evident either in today's Kaduna or in other parts of Nigeria at large

donphilopus: Although, I wasn't yet a Nairalander in 2011, but from what I've gathered, I believe it won't repeat itself.

Oh well it will repeat itself. I can assure you that. A camelon would never change its self! I used to have some regards for Seun, thinking He was a man that can be trusted, but since that election period, that regards went flying and I put Him on the same pedestal as Abati.

manny4life: Lmao.... Talk about delusion from a crowned prince of NL fucktards, nah dude, it's you who has surpassed the height of stupidity. Now bruh, wear your crown aight, and seat \_______ tight...

It is obvious you have nothing to contribute to this thread and lack the intellectual sagacity to counter the damning evidence that prove otherwise the falsehood you attempted to spread about your puppet and corrupt GEJ and His backward government.

ISpiksDaTroof: Anybody that attributes this report to GEJ is not only being insincere but is very much an unrepentable bigot!

Notice in the OP that they said even during the Military Era, Nigeria's true financial worth was seriously underreported: theres been no proper collation of figures since 1990!!!!

Nigeria has always been rich, the leaders have just always been mentally poor. If wealth was based on IQ, GEJ would be a street urchin.

I like to recognize and give credit to whom it is due. GEJ has played His part, however, His contribution is not worth the propaganda His praise singers engage to force down the throat of people, hence the reason He always counter their falsehood on NL. With the high price of oil, you would expect that GEJ's government would use this window of opportunity to massive revamp the economy with far reaching reforms especially in government agencies so they can better manage the economy. The major sectors of the economy have suffered relapse under Him and that has affected our very steep upward GDP growth.

manny4life: I warned you, stay the hell out of my lane. Tilapia brains abi? I'm trying to be cordial, when I unleash my venom on you, na you go tire o...

Hehe.. showing your off your social slackness as usual? Warning over the Internet is the height of st.upidity!

[quote author=ekt_bear]Real life, job, etc means no more time for this site.


The story of the black man, nothing to do with SA specifically We like to pull each other down[/quote]I understand how you mean. I had to avoid this site for much of this year and only started posting few weeks back just to feel the pulses! I understand how you mean about black man in general. I find it difficult to believe why man have such a mind set! The black SA I find struggle to unlock themselves from the years of mental and physical slavery. I have two of them in one of my teams and they exhibit this attitude. They can't comprehend how a Nigerian can be dictating what the size of their take home pay will be yearly. Unfortunately for them, this is the UK, and not their SA country.

manny4life: Yes bro, you're making me relevant,



Make me irrelevant QUIT QUOTING ME, geez dude, how hard is that?

I told you, I don't give two fuckss about anything you got to say...Stay the hell out of my lane

Hehe... tilapia brains init So long as serial liars like you continue to perpetuate falsehood on here... be prepared for folks like me to quote you and burst your bubble!

[quote author=ekt_bear]Good development. However for those using this to bash South Africa, keep in mind that their GDP/capita >>> Nigeria's[/quote]Where did you crawl out from? Did you disappear like most of us did for much of this year? As for the thread, no one is bashing SA, what I find unacceptable is, they are never comfortable whenever any good news is said about Nigeria, or other countries in Africa making good progress.

manny4life: Your problem is you're retarded, your own has no limit, you know I'm intellectually bereft and shallow, yet you seek my attention, who's the shallow and idiotic person?

Dude, seat down \___________ and STFU.... aight

Seek your attention? Hehe.. someone thinks He is relevant! Oh dear

BluIvy: Ok Mr, I thought you had an iota of brain in your had. If you knew I have been on this forum for a while people know I am a proud Batswana girl. Now coming to what you have said. You are trully deluded if you think you will ignore the world on your economics. Sorry wrong olodo! Continue to decieve yourself with pleasure. I know you were claiming that any person was working below you. Maybe a sweeper lol. Goodbye mr UK OGA on the top! What a joke!

You are not Botswana, you black South Africans always hide under the identity of other black nation due to your inferiority complex. I have supervised Botswana PhD students and the way you write gives you away as a very unlettered black South African.

Be proud of where God has destined you to hail from bodily and stop claiming to be some elsewhere. Every where in the world I have been, I represent Nigeria and I show them what Nigeria ought to be like if we had true and purposeful leadership.

manny4life: Haha, masking behind ndu_chuks comments, lol

Classic case of a retardedd person

It does not take anyone who have come across your comments on NL to know you are too intellectually bereft and shallow in so much areas, hence the reason you praise sing with the local crowds.

manny4life: This is my last response to you, you can blab all you want bro, that's your problem, not mine...

Hehe... speak the truth and stand by it! Stop spreading falsehood and praise singing mediocrity. You can start today by refusing to be a symbol of darkness to representing the truth. Else, folks like me on here are prepared to expose your falsehood with truth backed with facts!

[quote author=ndu_chucks]You come across as someone who needs additional education on this matter. Your question is quite elementary.[/quote]He is tool intellectually bereft to comprehend things like this. That is why He sing the praises of the mediocre and His puppet Master and His corruption ridden government.

scipher: blame ANC lol

it is not only ANC, surely it must be ACN

manny4life: Dude, what part of "Manny doesn't give two fuccks about anything you gat to say", truth or lies, I DON'T CARE. Stick this message in your head... I DON'T CARE.

Hehe.. as usual.. the bubble don burst! Truth is light, it will penetrate any darkness.