₦airaland Forum

redsun: So can a church send somebody to jail for stealing?Where is the forgiveness they are preaching? Hypocrites.

Maybe when a man claims to be a Christian, then goes about to ALUU you, such a man should also be set free

gregg2: Just to give him a soft landing, I guess.
The corrupt man should gladly accept it or . . .

ACN will be weeping.
This is an even bigger loss than Ondo elections.

To show your level of foolishness, the other courts that have also given ACN candidates their mandates are headed by Salami? It is known the world all over that GEJ is not a principled man and can not abide by civil rules, not for a man raised in the creeks anyway.

What people do not understand is, it does not matter today why party benefited from Salami's judgement, the tenants of Nigeria judiciary must be respected and protected by the FG by putting aside political inclination and making sure that corrupt judges are not only removed but prosecuted to serve as a deterrent to others. But has GEJ done this in Salami's case and why not?

From the same Tribune that told us FG will be filing the papers for the review of the ICJ decision on Bakassi? Any body that post news from Tribune is already half brain dead By the way, Salami's case will forever remain GEJ's June 12. Even if Salami was corrupt, why not get Him arrested and prosecute Him for the alleged corruption? This tells me GEJ is not sincere with Himself and Nigeria.

@ OP, every born again child of God lives in the spirit always. Bible says for they that are led of the spirit are the sons of God. I guess what you are trying to measure up with is being full of the Holy Ghost, which is something you can do at any time by singing in hymns, songs, making melody in your hearts to the Lord as the bible instructed us to do.

This OP fail to understand that Life is Spiritual! Large part of the West today are living under the grace of the Spiritual edge generations before them sort with God. Those that think Nigerians are lazy for turning to God when they face challenging situations, may Gods grace not depart from your abode. God himself asked us to call on Him in the days of adversity and He will answer.

Though sad but not a surprise many of you have no clue the purpose of Nigeria is God's plan, hence you talk the way you do about the country. And when the Lord remembers us, just like they that were cut off from the House hold of Israel, so shall it be upon your lots, you who despise we who call on the name of the Lord. While the country dwell in safety, your household shall run of they which are chased of the chariots of evils.

God is never slow to His works, we will turn and keep our face on Him concerning Nigeria, and God has heard us and He has answered!

222Martins: Pastors are no longer in the business of preaching salvation because it's a poor product. They prefer to sell hope and a promise of riches without work. Only the gullible ones will fall for these cheap scams. I reserve my comment.

What stops you from preaching the message of salvation yourself? Was the instructions not given to everyone to go in the world and preach the gospel? When your faith is shallow, you reason like men without hope.

Logicboy03: MOG defender has arrived.


The guy will be finished in the UK soon, dont worry.

I laugh in tongues . Did you people not say much about KICC ? What happened Your father the devil has fallen, there's no room for you, unless God be merciful to save your soul!

berem: My neighbour who have been blindfolded by the teachings of Oledepo must hear this!
Who says I must go to church to make heaven? What's the difference between worshipping God at home and going to church when I know that God have been so good to me?

To hell with all these churches who preach prosperity instead of salvation!

Its no surprising reading some of your comments on Nairaland. If you deny Gods word that says we should not abandon the congregation of the Brethren in prayer and in fellowship then you already know where you are heading!

Ilekokonit: Bishop Oyedepo's wikipedia page states the following well known mantra "Bishop David received a mandate from God through an 18 hour long vision in May 1981 to liberate the world from all oppression of the devil through the preaching of the word of faith. Two years after, on 17 September 1983, Pastor Enoch Adeboye, General Overseer of the Redeemed Christian Church of God, ordained David and his wife, Florence Abiola Akano (now known as Faith Abiola Oyedepo) to become pastors also officially commissioned the newly started church of Oyedepo. Five years after, Oyedepo was ordained a Bishop.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/David_Oyedepo

The quote in blue above is also a well known statement by Bishop Oyedepo.

My point is that instead of regurgitating what Bishop Oyedepo said God told him why can't his followers ask themselves the same question Oyedepo asks in his mind about people who say God called them. Were you there when God called him?

Lets stop repeating what so called men of God tell us about themselves. Lets use our own God given brain [/b]for once and like Oyedepo "used to state", [b]No one has a monopoly of wisdom.

Like the devil will some day tell you to stop regurgitating what God says in the bible! Some of you better be careful where you are leading your Spirit.

Lucasbalo: This so called pastors are nothing but high class 419 ( Fraudsters). Their gullible followers are so entranced and they cannot reasoned rationally . That is why Nigeria is in a big mess . You do not need any advocates between u and your God. And this is coming from a bible believing Christian . Wise up people and don't give ur hard earned money to these charlatans and fraudsters calling themselves pastors.

My friend keep your mouth shut and cover your head in shame! Why? read this the part below and see how your ignorance in bold above is exposed by Gods word.

Ephesians 4 : 11-13 "
11It was he who gave some to be apostles, some to be prophets, some to be evangelists, and some to be pastors and teachers, 12to prepare God’s people for works of service, so that the body of Christ may be built up 13until we all reach unity in the faith and in the knowledge of the Son of God and become mature, attaining to the whole measure of the fullness of Christ."

ijawkid: I'm awe struck..!!!!!!!......

MOG driving in a phantom with siren blaring envoys and escorts??....

Which kin nonsense be this....

Can nigerians please wake up to reality.......

SMH!!!!!.......

And why must the church branch in london be controlled by his son??

Na family business??....

I'm tired of this whole rubbish!!!!!!.....

Nigerians in Nigeria know better. How many times have you seen Oyedepo in Nigeria blaring sirens Beside those of us in the UK knows daily in the least of any national daily (if any at all to be taken serious) that you would want to give a face.

torkaka: 5pages and no living faith follower has succeded in answering my question! so i ask again;

"if Jesus was around, will he live like oyedepo or will he live like mother THeresa?"

it's important i get this answer from followers of the preacherneurs in nigeria!

1 Peter 1: 11 "seeking to know what person or time the Spirit of Christ within them was indicating as He predicted the sufferings of Christ and the glories to follow"

Logicboy03: lol...The beginning of the end. Once the British media and the govt get a hold of your atrocities, it can only get worse.

Time will tell if this tithe fraud will last.


Warning to any Winners Sheep; Dont waste your time threatening me with hell for telling the truth about your thieving pastor!

Shut up there! Where were you when they did the same thing to KICC? People like you spewed rubbish then but At the end didn't Met Police recommend that Matthew Ashimolowo be paid more as He was being under paid in His capacity as church head pastor (aka CEO).In fact the ministry grew even more throughout that period of travail.

Christ Embassy has been under the spot light of the UK authorities, until they hosted the largest ever Christian gathering London has witnessed and they back-pedalled. God's chosen people can not be subjected to men's earthly rule and wisdom.

Winners Chapel will go through the same fire and be refined, purer than gold and the authorities will recommend that the ministry deserve even more! People like you do not understand these things 'cos your heart is snared.Leave it to us who do, and we will rightly teach you by God's grace when you finally open your hearts.

FreeGlobe: rubbish post.. Nigeria music is crap anyway. overrated by nigerians.. This article belongs to the dustbin. Why not go to mtv or bet and ask them to ditch American songs and start playing nigeria crap music. you put your mouth where your money is. crap article.

Your post reveal your level of muturity. #babybrain

[quote author=black_beau]very incisive report.well written.truth is lagos isnt so hot.its just a normal place and is overrated[/quote]quiet there, where is your home town

texazzpete: For all those who say Shamesung aren't shameless copycats

Samsung's latest ARM powered Chromebook...a shameless ripoff of the Apple Macbook Air

https://i.imgur.com/q2oiY.png

This OP is obviously suffering from Apple infections! My quick view of both laptops clearly reveal to me that they are both different. 1. Keyboard layout 2.The Screen 3. The Mouse Pad. 4. The way the screens are hinged 5. The Screen aspect ratio. These are just hardware differences, I am sure when you dig deep into the software/hardware interface, there would lots of differences.

I am tired of apple or their slaved fans claiming others copied them as though Apple invented shapes!

sconsults: Life[size=18pt]Life is good. Made 2billion naira on a 1 million naira investment within 11 months ,thats why i love this country[/size]

What Ds like you do not know is that those in money do not talk much, why? their money speaks... so go back to your plate of garri with kano groundnut

[quote author=PROUD-IGBO]^^^Not being funny, but if you get the likes of Bi-Courtney (again) to spend that $10 Billion....with that kind of money you should expect something of the quality of Heathrow T5, but -knowing Nigerian contractors- you'll probably get another MMA2; and to add insult to injury they'll come and tell you say the money no do.[/quote]Bi-Courtney is a fraud so don't even talk about them! Beside I was only being economical with the scale of investment the FG can make into out airports and make very quick returns. Each time I travel through Paris or I am in Paris, I trip for CDG Airport. I was there in 2007 when Terminal 3 was like a military field, then used it in 2008, 2010, 2011, and several times this year, the transformation is REAL! over head Mono-Rail, dedicated Airport Shuttle lanes, Emergency lanes, Short corridors for Business passengers like me, I just kept saying to myself, Nigeria can afford this, We have the money, the personnel, so why ain't we doing something like this in either Lagos, Abuja, or P/H

The OP is a joke! I was in Nigeria during Yar'dua's time, stay in Lagos, Benin, Abuja, Warri, Effurun. In lagos, in some places, Lekki, Ikeja (some areas) there was electricity for 24hrs, other places like Egbeda, Iyana-wetin electricity was only available for 12 to 16hrs. In Benin City, in the GRA areas, electricity was available for 20hrs a day. In Warri, it was generator all the way! Same with Effurun the kidnap Headquaters. In Abuja, same experience as in Lagos. I was down there last year, my heart was broken! It was like everything has gone backwards

Yes, there is alot ongoing in terms of power, as one can even see new High Tension KVA lines being constructed when travelling to Abuja but these are nothing to celebrate as GEJ's transformation.

Dem try but this is what Nigeria should have done in 1984 , Abeg, has some one used CDG in Paris recently? Terminal 3 which is the equivalent of our GAT is like MMIA. Was in Pearson International Airport,Toronto, CAD, few weeks back, their GAT x2 of MMIA.

Please, lets not waste our time cutting any tape, I need to see the complete redesign (not remodelling) of Lagos, P/H, Kano, Benin, Abuja Airports. Nigeria government has $10bn she can invest in these airports and with responsible management, that money can be recouped in just 5years!

Shouldn't an investment of this magnitude be channelled through the Federal Government? I mean, you would expect that this information would be coming from the Ministry of Power and Energy at both the state and Federal level to give the news any credibility.

Me I no believe this one... phony deal

blink182: The cars are definitely there but that's not †☺ say we have an economic boom, Chief Tom Ikimi has over 200 cars with most the cars here in his fleet Ǎ̜̣̍Ϟd he's not even the current government. I hope you get the point.

That tells us there a boom boom amongst the rich but no prosperity in Nigeria. But then, let us not give up hope, we all need to keep fighting the wicked leadership in the land and Nigeria will rise out of the waters, not like a dolphins of the West, nope but like the Saudis and Qataris of the middle east.

okpara ugo: Have you seen a bentley close range? Its as good as a Rolls Royce and sexier.

The one owned by L'oreal. She was so close that I had believe it was the woman. Aparently, she has not even a single body guard, unlike Nigeria, where dangote would have body guards ready to shoot any mosquito that dares to suck on oga

La Parisienne: Can someone Please lend me the McLaren SLR for just a day? I aint greedy ya know

No sweetie, I would 'dash' you the Supersonic Thrusters -ST-, the race to Heaven just got sweeter

engineerd: Based on what Faith without works?

If you knew what that poster did with those words, you would be forever be thankful to the poster.

Whitehorse: The other party sees it as fair because it benefits him. Lets not play ostrich here. If the East gets another state, that state will have to be funded from the federation, leading to less income for the other states. Its not rocket science.

Many Nigerians are concerned about constituional imbalance because they believe thats the only way they can get the basic amenities you talked about. Nigerians are not fools, we know resources are shared based on number of local governements and states.
People do not develop a parculiar mindest out of the blue, something must have made them think in a certain way.

If we have financial and resource autonomy for each and every state or region, i can guarantee you that the noise for more states will die.

The bottom line is people feel they are being cheated financially in this country, and that has to be addressed. Any other thing is secondary.

I think this is where you get it all wrong! The creation of more state in a region would not amount to reduction in the Federal allocation in the other regions, again I use the creation of Edo and Delta States as an example. Instead what you would have is that the allocation for that region will be spread amongst the states especially when issue of derivation fund is involved. So drop the idea that Lagos or Kano would suddenly get less Federal allocation because Enugu is carved into two.

I am not bashing any region, since you have made mention of the issue of perceived financial injustice, I would like you to tell us the percentage of revenue generated in the South East, ( and by this I am not referring to Igbos- no ethnic bashing please).

Sky Blue: I think you are missing his point. If clamouring for state is not the solution then why don't we reduce states all across the board? What he is talking about is EQUITY.

I agree with the statement in bold and honestly spaeking, that is the issue. If we reform Nigeria then we reform Nigeria and all is well and good. But if things are to continue the way they are going, at least make things fairer. If we are saying we want a strong nation built on a more efficient sytem bla bla bla, then GOOD. But if we are going to continue supporting a corrupt system focused on stealing from the people and giving nothing back, AT LEAST make all thieves equal. It sounds messed up but it is Nigeria, and it should be a rhetorical proposition because then hopefully people would want the first option of genuine reform. But you can't have two different moral standards whereby, state creation for a group is seen as greed, but for another it is rationalised.

This is what I do not get with the SE governors! Does more state mean improved development? I mean, Edo, Delta is a good case study. And why don't we hear these governors also clamouring rights of the girl child in SE, the need to remove immunity clause, and so many other anomalies that ordinary Nigerians on the street would want to see amended in the Constitution? Why is it all about state creation which in my view they see as more money?

Whitehorse: I cant believe people can be this civil on NL. I'd decided to reduce my visit and posting to this forum because of the vile and hatred people spew here.
That being said, the topic at hand is a catch 22 scenerio. Do we work on reforming attitudes when a segment of the society feels cheated, or do we work on correcting the percieved injustice first
If the thruth must be told, our present constitution is a fraud, commissioned by those that had instituted and cultivated the moral and ethical decline Fashola was postulating we correct. Nigerians have to sit down and dicuss how or if we want live as nation.
Fashola's social engineering postulation will take a decades to see the fruits. Do keep going as we are while waiting?
In conclusion, both govs are right, and i do not see why we cant have both suggestions running concurrently.

How do you correct what you perceive as injustice when the other party sees it as fair share? Again, do you really think Nigerians will be so concerned about constitutional imbalance in terms of state creation if the very basic amenities were available to them to carry out their business day to day? The issue really is not the document, rather it is the mind set of the people and thats what need changing.

Elueme: Reinstate who? That will spell dome for the judiciary if they make that mistake. How do you reinstate a man who was parochial and biased with his leadership, you don't mk such mistake, not in the face of evidences which keep emanating that salami indeed had a part with the ACN. In some civilized societies, Salami should have been on trial for complicities.

May upright standings never elude those who may have to make decisions that will determine your fate.

Ogaga87: Even if they grow by 0.0 percent our 7.6 can't match theirs, what a shame.

Did you actually reason this out of your educated mind

Awake9ja: Omo tier,

I know following you gently will reveal your intention.
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So it's clear to us that you are seeing other minorities and region marginalization and injustice mated out against them as fairness and equity.
That's the reason you are putting up those deceptive logics .

Do you have feelins at all.
Do you decide on a level of occasion (party )first before the type of cloth that suits it or do you talk about the cloth first before the type of occasion ?

Why are you guys doing things on the opposite. I hope fashola intent and yours are not same because if it is, i will conclude that sanusi was right when he say that you guys cannot rise above tribal politics.
In a country where minorities are crying by the day why are they treated as second class in a country they call theirs.

I guess you understand how to read in context. I rightly said, that what others might perceive to be injustice, some others may see it as fairness IF their mind set in morally obsolete. Please leave ethnic mind set out of this discussion. Fashola's thinking is in-line with what any sane Nigerian (who understand what truly is going on in the land right now) would think.

cheddarking: You are being very Idealistic bruv.

In a Normal Society, where all Citizens are sane, then your statments hold water...

Not in Nigeria.

We've had 52 years to get it right, and conditions back then that were more favourable to Economic growth...and we fuccked up Royally.

Now things are bad, the security situation is appaling, power generation is still not high enough to drive industrialisation, rife corruption ingrained in our little ones...and this is the Economy they tell you is GROWING?


A Country so devoid of jobs, TRUCK DRIVERS need to have a BSC! And this 'Economy' is GROWING?

In the GSM sector you mentioned, 3 of the 4 major Service Providers are FOREIGN, and the ECONOMY is GROWING?

Forgive me if I disagree Sir!

I get what you are driving at, however my point is this, if we do not see where we need to be and how we need to get there as a nation, then we will remain the modern day Israel who were less than 4 days closer to the promise land but ended up arriving there 400 years late.

As for your BSC holders driving trucks, I think that reasoning is part of what needs eradicating in Nigeria. Here in the UK, you see a man driving taxi, has a degree but you know what, He also has two other small business He runs. It is now about the degree you hold that matters, it is what you do with it. Those BSC holders can do the truck driving for three years, and there after get the financial stability to start up the right company and become employers of labour.