₦airaland Forum

blacksta:
I suspected as well that guy i_sad was either a family member of a corrupt offical or benecfactor of illegal practices. Damn them all. Punishment will disbursed in due course by the Grace of God.

or even a convoy driver browsing with a gprs enabled phone.

I support Richy, as soon as we hear any more parents insult from that laugher guy who is obviously a political sychophant (otimkpu), I expect Richy to send him back to the National assembly gates where he belongs.

Fool.

udezue:
Igbo kwenu!!!!!

Yaaaaaaaaaaaaaa!!!!

Becomrrich:
I once had a  dream  about yar adua, and in the dream I was told the alternative if yar adua do not want the yorubas to go. let me tell you first about the dream, i saw a man with a sacrifice(ebo) in the dream  and i heard someone says ebo ti gba, ( it is accepted)  and in the dream they said the only only solution is either he let the yoruba go or the saw man who brought the ebo should bring another ebo or Turai and yar adua first child should bring two ebo and take it to ibadan at 1 pm. and  there should not be a coffin they have to take the ebo nake thru the street of ibadan. and from the first point street they start they should start counting from 1 to 100 street. When they get to the 100th street, they would meet a three junction street. orita meta. And leave  the ebo there.

I have had to discuss this dream with some people.

So if he does not want the yorubas to go, they should go look for the man that carry the ebo. Like I said, it was a dream, i once had about yar adua sickness.

i know many people have been thinking that this guy is just a nuisance, now hes confirmed he is seeing things too.

lucabrasi:
wow dude,cant you make comments without abuse?neway i stand by my comments, considering the egyptians are igbo,jews are igbo,pyramids first made by igbos,im sure tower of babel was by igbos as well,forest whittaker igbo, like one of your ppl said most african american, u guessed it igbo so it follows by reason of deduction,she has to be igbo lol

Why must you people cease every little opportunity you get at dissing igbo tribe. Does it make you people feel more Nigerian or something?

like romeo said the next thing we will hear from you is: "im no tribalist, my grandfather's elder brother's wife  has an aunt that is married to igbo and 99% of friends are igbo so im no tribalist"

We hear this all the time and you will be the first to accuse any igbo guy here who raises an eyebrow of being a MASSOB activist.

Becomrich listen now:
it is: I can't be stopped and NOT

i cant be stop

again, stop making fun of yourself here, its becoming not funny and irritating!

this guy cannot stop, can he?

Cant somebody stop him!!

grrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr

Kobojunkie:
kai!! the things we allow in that country never ceizes to amaze me oo!!! roflmao!!

At least this one was not allowed.

He is being detained and that to me is good news.

otokx:
Please becomrrich is entitled to his opinions so let some people allow him be; i actually laugh each time i read his posts.

I used to laugh too but, come on, this guy is sick.
Cant we just help him somehow?

this guy is stark raving mad and i cant believe I'm responding to his ranting.

Now, he is a preacher

Cant Seun or Richyblack do something about this weirdo?

So even yoruba people traffic too, I think we sell and they keep while aboki uses?

if anybody needs prayers, it is Becomrich.

That guy is a psycho, a retard and possibly, a yoruba almajiri all put together prowling the internet.

You people have heard (from him) that Yaradua will be Ok if he let yoruba and bendel people go, very very soon, he will tell us again that reading satellite images from him will make everyone see tommorrow.

This guy really really needs help.

nues aweso:
I still hate Ojukwu anyway for killing millions of Igbos during the war

if you wish to take us back to, 'no ojukwu did not kill millions of igbos, hausa and yorubas did' then I think you are not too intelligent, why not put a statement that is backed up with simple logic.

if not, then, like i said before, you are a dullard.

naijaking1:
@Ono
Let it out

He is finding it very hard to do now.

ono:
Ejoor's ''side'' of the Biafran War story may not be ''completely true''. But there sure is some elements of truth in this interview - a five star eye opener that will definitely send historians back to the bookshelves as claimed by the interviewer. One thing I can glean from the interview though is that the Baifran war was already in the making even before it became a battle field affair.

Now, I'm surely not in the mood to engage the likes of Richyblack, naijaking, Osisi and their Igbo brothers and sisters in another war of words over this Biafra matter. We had one some time ago and I can't forget that experience quickly. But I know that in their heart of hearts, they know the truth.

I doubt that you are not in the mood to argue over this because you wouldnt post here if you weren't.

Why cant you point out those 'incompletely true' or 'elements of truth' in his side of story and lets see if you are saying the same thing with us when we said he's lying or again, whether the 'elements of truth' is a truth that voids what others in his league have said or just a common truth everyone knows.
just point them out.

Again, every war will at some point be on the making before it becomes a battle affair. People cant just wake up one morning and start shooting at each other.

Try and make sense, you haven't made any sense at all.

texazzpete:
Or perhaps it's down to you two being unimaginative enough to make this daft assumption.
FYI, i've spent more time in an Igbo village than any other village in Nigeria (1 year NYSC in Ohafia, Abia state). I know more Igbo words than my native language. My only sister is happily married to an Igbo man and my only Nephew is named Chukwudi . It's therefore absurd to postulate i'm an anti-Igbo tribalist.

Even the notorious anti-igbo Becomerich on nairaland said he have igbo friends and inlaws. the difference btw you guys is that he is no closet tribalist and people dont make big deal out of his anti igbo statements because he doesnt pretend to like igbos.

texazzpete:
This much i know; it seems there's a generally accepted notion/point of view on the events leading up to the Biafran war by certain group of Igbos. Any attempt to proffer a different opinion (no matter how slight the difference may be) and you get labelled as an Igbo-hater or a tribalist. That's lame IMHO.

If the opinion you are referring is the one corroborated by Ademoyegan (who is not Igbo) and other active participants of the war then Ejoor and people like you should be fair enough to understand when people label you anti-igbo.

I never knew Fela said anything about the war.

RichyBlacK:
Okay, I see your point. It is likely that the pre-1966 resentment of Igbos was due to:
1. Igbo businessmen being successful in the North.
2. Igbos being practically 100% Christian and living among Northerners who are predominantly Muslim.

So, this pre-1966 resentment exploded into large-scale mayhem and a government-backed pogrom when the January 1966 coup was tagged "an Igbo coup".

Your views seem coherent, but what I don't get is why the federal government refused to protect Igbos. If we blame the mass murder on illiterate hooligans on the streets of Northern Nigeria and their backers hiding behind the scene:

1. Why did Gowon refuse to deploy the so-called "federal might" to protect Igbos from the marauding murderers scattered all over Northern Nigeria?
2. Was Gowon afraid?
3. Did he support the massacre because he also felt threatened by the said successes of the Igbos in pre-1966 Nigeria?
4. Was he just incompetent in ensuring that his orders to protect Igbos were carried out?
5. Was he prevented by his subordinates, e.g., Murtala Mohammed and Ibrahim Haruna, from protecting Igbos because those subordinates felt the mass murder of thousands of Igbos was necessary to appease the angry "Northern streets"?

the answer to your question is: all of the above.

asha 80:
Always the way peeps that want to assume neutrality end their statements.

Wasnt it you who has the right name for such people -- closet tribalists.

I think thats the best name for them, thats what they all are.

texazzpete:
I have had little or no interest in that portion of Nigeria's history, so i'd have to choose the former. There's no shame in not knowing something  .  How's that for honesty?
Funny how i could recreate all the Napoleonic battles in my teens, yet knew nothing much about the Biafran war until i read Forsyth's Biafra novel (which in itself was heavily biased).

I'm probably the least tribalistic person you can find in Nigeria, so please don't even go there.

You have no interest in that portion of Nigeria's history yet you are going all over the thread blaming coup plotters for being responsible for the war and pogrom.

Again if you say that 'there was peace in the country until the coup plotters came and destroyed the ideal' I will then have to agree in totality with you that you do not know a thing about that portion of history. Why did they strike?
Ejoor (who knew nothing about the coup) has told you guys that it was because igbo people wanted power at all cost.

However, Ademoyegan (hope i wrote it right) has the answer for you! Not Nzeogwu, Gbulie or others you will find it harder to believe any of the igbo version of the reason for that coup.

texazzpete:
Don't be silly. Where did i make that assertion? Have i ever tried to shift blame from the killers?

You don't need the killers to be organized, informed people. All you need is for the instigators, the controllers to be informed. As seen in many cases of religious violence in Nigeria these days, most of the killing is done by illiterate almajiris whipped into a frenzy by an Iman or a minor Sultan.

You seem to be making too many assertions on this topic to remember what you mean again.

shifting blame from the coup plotters or laying it on them did not and should not excuse the pogrom and later the war.

Why is it hard for you and Ejoor and all other non igbos to admit that the war was caused by the unabated pogrom and not the coup.

if you believe its just the 1st coup, hausa people got their own counter coup, why werent you or Ejoor saying anything about the counter coup which is also tribalistic and their revenge which should have made things even.

But your hausa people cant stop even after their counter coup -- they needed to take over Nigeria by eliminating the igbo tribe which is the only one that can stop them.

this is very very very very funnnny.

So my people de buy, ndi ofe mmanu go keep and then aboki go use.

Does it say anything about who is more intelligent in this country.

Some efulefu Yoruba people will come to this thread to tell me that igbo is bad and this and that whereas they are as guilty.

Are the trafficker and the keeper not guilty of the same offence?

Na only aboki I de pity in all these things

this funmi gal is always full of hatred!

If you are looking for christian sympathy by mentioning that no mosques are being demolished, its obvious to you now that you are not getting it?

The topic even says RCCG even though the other churches are involved in the suit.

What a gal!

@Dede1,
I tend to always agree with you.

sleek_p:
Something to ponder for those who refused to accept the tribalistic nature of the 1966 coup plot.
Why are the major players in the coup largely Igbo and why was no notable Igbo leader killed.  Haba were the plotters unable to find the likes of Okpara, Azikiwe, Ironsi etc. To argue that the 1966 coup was not an Igbo coup or that the northerners should not have reacted flies in the face of rational thinking.

texazzpete:
Your Analogies are clearly not apt in this situation. There may have been many more people involved in the planning an execution of the coup, but the frontmen just happened to be Igbo. And the Northern military and political elite bore the brunt of the killings that night. It matters not if there was a token Yoruba man in their ranks; the general perception was that it was an Igbo coup designed to kill Northerners.

Let us assume that there is even no non igbo among the coup plotters.
So you guys are now saying that retaliatory act of killing thousands of igbo civillians because of tribalistic act of few should be blamed on the coup plotters and not the perpetrators of the pogrom.

So IBB should have killed thousands of Orkar's kinsmen because Orkar wanted to usurp power from the Northerners by removing IBB.

We are talking about thousands of igbo officers and civillians  killed by fellow hausa soldiers and civillians. It is not 'uninformed rabble' as you guys are claiming this time. It was an organized mass killing.

texazzpete:
But that's precisely what happened. Do you think the people who killed Igbos in the North were Professors and scholars. Nay, more like paranoid dummies

They killed Igbos en masse because 'they (igbos) killed their brothers' not just a few igbo people that they saw as a threat.

Nzeogwu and co did not kill thousands of hausas or yorubas, they only killed few people who needed to be out of the way for them to achieve their aim.

And no igbo person has come out before to support their actions.

ikeyman00:
becomerich is such a y^^^^^^ tribalistic slowpoke

if only hes just tribalistic, i think hes some kind of a psycho.

just wait till he comes back with his satellite images.

When will this Becomrich guy learn enough english to be proud to post on the internet, we are not talking about logic yet.


and i also wonder if everything is yoruba to him?

Ibime:
My point and yours are exactly the same. . . . Ironsi did not know about the coup, just like I said. . . . however, Ejoor is probably right when he says that Igbo soldiers had been planning a military putsch since Independence. . . whether Ojukwu and Ironsi were roped into their plot is of no consequence, but it is hard to fathom that Ojukwu never recieved wind of it. . . . . I do not for a second buy the excuse that the coup plotters gave. . . . they had always had intentions of seizing power. . . the act itself is evidence of the intention. . . . . the fact that they killed Akintola, Bello and Sardauna but spared Igbo sons in power only paints the coup as a 'tribal' one. . . .

@Ibime,
Its strange how you have found it hard to deduce that Ironsi and Ojukwu being involved in the coup is of no consequence to the claim that Igbos have been planning coup since independence.

That story is not his own Biafra war account rather he is trying to prove that igbos have been planning coup since independence.

All over that write up, the man spent a lot of energy trying to link Ojukwu and Ironsi with that coup and yet you think he's doing it for no reason? These two people played the most important roles before and after the coup therefore linking them with the coup is simply an attempt by Ejoor to drive home his point, but he obviously wasnt very smart about it.
Just too many holes in that story.

For those claiming we are not born then,
We do not have to be born then to know when he is out of line. Thats why theres HISTORY. His view differs so much from what his colleagues of that era who are not even igbos wrote.

It reminds of one very old man in my village that lies to young people about world war 2 which he claims to be a veteran. He told us all sorts lies about his actions at the war front but when i grew up enough and got to start reading, i realized that the man did not even leave the shores of Nigeria during WW2. As a matter of fact the people conscripted from Nigeria to fight in the war did not get there before ww2 ended.

Will I be wrong if I call this very old man a liar?