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mrchineke:
CRY US A RIVER.......IGBO PLANTED MAIZE BUT THEY WANT TO HARVEST YAM..abi?

keep crying.....!!!! And I hope Immhotep and his side kick LZAA join you.

Awon apoda!!!

All these secondary school students who post here. What I wrote was void of tribal sentiments but common sense.

Let me say what I said in a way a person like you might understand. A facially deformed man who finds it difficult to find women who'd sleep with sleep him for free went and picked up an ashawo and as per normal the ashawo asked for her 5k upfront cash. The guy paid. When they got to the bedroom, time to enter, the guys penis refused to stand, and after several minutes of trying to come up an erection, the guy got mad and stormed out of the room. When he got home he was so mad, he grabbed a knife and cut off his penis, after which he told the already cut off penis to cry him a river, I guess we can all imagine what happened 30 mins after the guy cut off his penis.

The facially deformed man is nigeria, the ashawo is the election, the penis is a majority tribe in the country. Put 2 and 2 together hope say you get my point now.

Cutting off a Majority tribe in Nigeria from Governance because they didnt vote for your party and trolling them about it is a STUPID and DANGEROUS thing to do in a country like nigeria whose togetherness is on murky waters, a country already awash with insane levels of poverty and insecurity.

The right thing the APC party should be asking is what can we do to bring the IGBOS on board this our party, why are they not voting for us? How can we entrap them to believe in this party the way they believe in PDP. How can we make our Party a true Nigerian Party that all tribes have no problem identifying with?

[quote author= post=79196359]God bless Nigeria.[/quote]Bros, I've seen you post many negative things against Igbos, why claim igbo now? Anyways some people could have read what you wrote and walked away thinking igbo people are now cowering and falling for that STUPID horseshxt you wrote. But you're only fooling yourself.

First of all, you have to remember and tell who ever sent you to write that crap that the people we are talking about here are igbo people oh? Not people from Gabon or Senegal, Igbo people question/check leadership, that's why there were barely any kings in the multitudes of igbo clans spread across nigeria, This is a genetical trait, advantage or disadvantage, you decide. Even if Jesus came here to contest Election, the vast majority of Igbos would still vote for him or against him based on what he says or doesnt say and how they feel about him. If Buhari or Tinubu or Oshiomole think they can bully the igbo populace into voting for a person who they despise in the name collecting juicy appointment, then tell them that they need to read African History 101.

Here is the otherside of that argument, the igboic speaking people of nigeria make up over one quarter of the population, if the ruling party of the country is trying to troll them by making these statements, then that is a very unintelligent and dangerous thing to do. Here is why...read carefully!

1. Nigeria is currently a country with endemic poverty right? so that means that there are very frustrated poor people in every tribe. So lets say for example that since the extremely poor people of nigeria are split 50/50 with the non extremely poor, it means every tribe for sake of easy maths has 50 percent extremely poor people. That means igboic people have about 20 million extremely poor people. 10 percent of that population (poor people who have given up on life and decided that they have nothing to lose) is enough to make this country unlivable for everyone else.

All of you are probably thinking of a conventional war we had in the 1960s, but thats possibly the last thing that would happen as no one here is ready for war. But what about a bokoharam like situation rising up in the east, to make matters worse image a faceless one without a leader, just frustrated people taking out their frustration on the populace. That would be a very complicated situation to deal with. A situation where poor and frustrated people rather than take their own life choose to die with a large number of population,using easy to make pressure bombs et al. The nigerian government and miltary is currently worn out by the little bokoharam situation that we have our selves in, and the Hausas are the ones ruling, if the frustrated poor people of majority disenfranchised tribe starts doing the same thing thing in places with big populations like lagos or abuja, we all lose!

I know this sounds far fetched but the Nigeria I grew up in is now a very different one from what it is today. As a child we used to hear jokes about nigerians loving life too much and being unable to kill theirselves, jokes about how malams with no arms or legs are so happy. If you are old enough to remember that nigeria can you believe the amount of suicide bombing that has been happening in the north? Can you believe that an average young nigerian would kill himself for not passing exams? Times are changing and the internet and education means the populace understand poverty and life from a whole new dimension.

The last thing any responsible government that means well for it's people should do is troll/mock it's own people. This is not a nusery school dancing chair competition. If they want to continue to fool nigerians then the smartest thing to do would have been to use one of the igboid people within their party to continue to make everyone believe they are serious with their "we are one" charade, and even if they dont intend on giving igbo people leadership roles being quiet about it or continue giving reasonable excuses would be smarter than mocking the populace.

If you care about these country then you would understand that a federal system of carrying atleast every major tribe and religion along is way to go. What this guys are doing is a threat to the unity of this country, because again, if a tiny fraction of poor people of that majority igbo tribe that they are mocking gets trolled into being radicalised, nobody would be able to live in this country. #Fact

HarryDuce:
Ngwa people kwa. These are lies and unverifiable opinion.

My guy I have no energy to argue. Don't get lazy, the entire information is on the web, as said by King Jubogha himself. Please search and acquaint yourself with the needful. The words I have written here are not just out of what's available as information on the web but also what was told to me by very own grandfather. I'm not writing this to castigate or belittle anyone but rather to set the record straight. Thank you!

amabipi:
There is a political cabal ravaging Rivers State – the Igboid Mafia.

The Igboid Mafia of Rivers State is widely believed to have emanated from a political dynasty traceable to former Governor Peter Odili. The sole purpose of the Mafia is to ensure that only the Igbo-speaking ethnic groups in Rivers State control political and economic power. This should however exclude the bilingual (Ibo-speaking) Ijaw people of Bonny, Opobo and parts of Okrika.

Membership of the Igboid Mafia are mostly politicians from Ikwerre, Etche, Ndoni, Ogba and Ndoki areas of Rivers State with some Ijoid and Ogoni cronies. These politicians masquerade and camouflage as persons representing the interest of their respective ethnic groups whereas their pursuit is purely personal and selfish. They do not have the mandate of their people to act as they do.
The father figure of the Igboid Mafia is said to be former Governor Peter Odili, a medical doctor turned politician from Ndoni town whose election in 1999 sowed the seed that became the Igboid political Cabal. His election was innocently spearheaded by prominent Ijoid (Rivers Ijaw) leaders.

Many reasons have been proffered for the emergence of the Igboid Mafia. Some say that Odili created it to protect his government against attacks from the dominant Ijoid group at the time. Others say that it was a product of Odili’s sad experiences during the Nigerian Civil War. Whatever the reason was, the Igboid Mafia has come to stay as the dominant factor in Rivers politics.

To make room for the nascent Igboid Mafia, the hitherto dominant Ijoid political structure was forcefully dismantled. The political fortunes of prominent Rivers Ijaw leaders like Alabo T.O. Graham-Douglas and Dr. Ombo Isokrari suffered drastic reversal and Dr. Marshall Harry and Chief A.K. Dikibo were murdered in very mysterious circumstances.
The Igboid mafia is said to have eminent Ikwerre persons that include the incumbent Governor Nyesom Wike, former Governor Omehia, former Deputy Speaker of the House of Reps, Hon. Austin Okpara, O.C.J. Okocha SAN and a veteran politician, Chief Sergeant Awuse.

Prince Emma Anyanwu and Hon. Desmond Akawor are said to be converts from Etche and Ndoki respectively while Bro Felix Obuah and one Shederack Akalokwu are believed to be the arrowheads from Ogba/Egbema axis.

The Igboid Mafia is alleged to include some Rivers Ijaw opportunists like Dame Patience Jonathan (said to be Igbo by birth), Chief Feddy Alabraba, Prince Uche Secondus, Senator George Sekibo and Dr. Abiye Sekibo. There are also a handful of Ogoni cronies said to be led by the serving Secretary to the State Government, Kenneth Kobani.

Members of the cabal are driven by the sole desire to control the coffers of Rivers State and are united by the selfish aspiration to share political and economic power among themselves.

The Rivers Ijaw and Ogoni elements in the Mafia further conceal the real mission of the cabal, which is to enforce Igboid rule over Rivers State for 60 years in total exclusion of the Ijoid and the Ogoni nations.

Political Exploits of the Igboid Mafia

On inception in 1999, the budding Igboid Mafia confiscated the ruling Peoples Democratic Party (PDP) and sidelined the founding members of the party in Rivers State, including BOT members.
Former Governor Rufus Ada-George was chased into exile, Alabo T.O. Graham-Douglas sacked as Federal Minister, Marshall Harry and A.K. Dikibo are killed. The Mafia rendered the Rivers State House of Assembly ineffective and manipulated the appointment of the Chief Judge of the State. The Swift Operations Squad (SOS) of the Nigerian Police was used to coordinate militants against perceived political opponents.

The act of unleashing violence on opponents was the trademark of the cabal which increased or reduced in intensity depending on the level of desperation of the leadership. The cabal appointed well-known cult leaders as members of the State Executive Council and made them leaders of the party in their respective local government areas. The leadership of the Mafia grabbed and manipulated local government administration and nominated stooges into the state electoral body and into INEC as Resident Electoral Commissioners.

The dislodging of the political order that existed before 1999, required that the new power bloc was installed by force of violence and Rivers State has known no peace thence. Cultists and cult leaders emerged as candidates to local government councils and to State and National Assemblies.
Since 2003, the Igboid Mafia has never depended on actual votes to win elections; they seize the electoral process by force. However, in order to psychologically intimidate the Ijoid and the Ogoni groups, the Igboid Mafia has ensured massive falsification of population and voters registration figures in their domains – figures that can’t stand the test of one-man-one-vote.

The Igboid Mafia and its allies have emasculated Rivers people who watched helplessly as the cabal handpicked and installed their cronies into elective offices. This act of impunity was always backed by the presidency and enforced by state security agencies, cultists and militants.

In the midst of these devious political exploits by the Igboid Mafia, many Rivers people suffer impoverishment and dehumanization. Many people are killed and several communities are destroyed in orchestrated communal crises. The sanctity of the traditional institution is desecrated and societal values are upturned as the cabal ensures that the political and economic fortunes of genuine leaders are reversed by force. The Igboid Mafia of Rivers State has come to stay and it reigns supreme.
Nyesom Wike outsmarts the Mafia
The Igboid Mafia was originally designed to monopolize political power in trust for the Igbo-speaking areas of Ndoni, Ikwerre, Ndoki, Etche, Omuma, Ogba, Egbema and Ekpeye. Accordingly, Odili was said to have insisted on Ikwerre candidates to succeed him in 2007 against stiff opposition from the Rivers Ijaw leadership. The hidden plan of the Mafia was that after Ikwerre, the governorship would move to Ndoki with Desmond Akawor waiting in the wings. But amidst the confusion that attended the Rotimi Amaechi’s internal revolt against the Mafia, Nyesom Wike outsmarted the rest of the cabal.

Leading the Ikwerre wing of the Mafia, Nyesom Wike formulated the doctrine of Ikwerre North, Ikwerre South, Ikwerre West and Ikwerre East. His group insisted that Ikwerre alone has 1.1 million of the 2.5 million Rivers votes and can retain the governorship in perpetuity if they chose.

Many had thought that Wike was merely joking at the time, but the events of 2015 elections have further enshrined this perception. Currently, there are rumours that Hon. Austin Okpara or Emeka Woke has been earmarked to succeed Nyesom Wike in 2023.
The Ikwerre scheme to rule Rivers State for 24 years include:
· The re-drawing of the demography/political map.
· Domination by the Igboid group over the Ijoid and Ogoni.
· The economic empowerment of Ikwerre.
· Spending the entire state budget on Ikwerre land (PH & Obio/Akpor).
· Using renegade Ijaws, especially discredited politicians and militants from Kalabari and Okrika to execute Ikwerre agenda.
Non-Ikwerre members of the Mafia have maintained that it is sheer travesty for Ikwerre members of the cabal to change the rule and sit tight. They are reminding their Ikwerre colleagues to look back and remember the sorry state of Ikwerre before Odili rescued them in 2007. Until then, no Ikwerre man smelt the Government house; not because Ikwerre had no qualified candidates but because of the type of hegemonic politics now being emulated and adopted by the Ikwerre faction in the Mafia.
Other members of cabal are grumbling that Ikwerre that was pulled out overnight from the ashes of nothingness and made the lords of the Rivers State Government House are forgetting that Ikwerre governors did not emerge through a free-for-all contest. They argue that Wike must not seek a second term in office as his was a child of circumstance that has since lapsed.
Rotimi Amaechi: the righteous rebel
One ex-beneficiary of the activities of the Igboid Mafia was former Governor Rotimi Chibuike Amaechi who was singlehandedly anointed governor by Odili in 2007 but who had since parted ways with the cabal.

Rt. Hon. Rotimi Amaechi had disagreed with the fundamental objectives of the cabal and declared that for equity and fairness to reign, power must rotate among the ethnic groups in Rivers State – a position that negates the goals of the Mafia.

During the 2015 governorship campaigns, Amaechi argued that the contest should be open to every ethnic group in the state other than Ikwerre. He cautioned that if an Ikwerre man is allowed to succeeds him in office after he (Amaechi) had served for eight years, then other ethnic groups will never again get a chance to be governor.
Amaechi warned that if Wike was allowed to be governor in 2015, it will encourage other selfish Ikwerre politicians to think that “only Ikwerre people can come together and elect themselves as governors” He called on all Ikwerre patriots to rise against Wike and vote for a candidate from another ethnic group.
To the rest of Rivers people, Amaechi said “If you people allow him (Wike) to succeed, then forget your children, they will never be governors again because all it will take is when he finishes, another Ikwerre man will tell Ikwerre people: ‘I’m your son’ and Ikwerre will support him”.
“We must show justice and ensure that political power is equitably distributed. Even if you are an ethnic group of 20,000 persons, you have a right to the governorship of the state” Amaechi said.

http://riversijawvoice.com.ng/2017/10/15/exposed-igboid-mafia-to-rule-rivers-state-for-56-years

Sorry to the OP but Opobo people are NOT Ijaws, We prefer to be called Opobo people and we are not to be confused with the Bonny People. Our forebear king Juboha fought literal wars with the Bonny Rulers/people to create a separate identity and bought over the place now called Opobo, He then moved in with his wives, servants, slaves and Chiefs who were majorly Ngwa People. No Ibani natives wanted anything to do with him at the time, as they thought him a traitor. These are all verifiable history online written by King Jaja himself. While we enjoy an Amazing relationship with other riverine communities in the area and we respect everyone and consider all our brothers, calling us Ijaws is quite mischievous and an attempt to twist our history.

Ekinematics:
As someone who have lived in both states, Uyo is an upcoming star, but still not up to the level of PH.
There's nothing special currently in Uyo besides good roads.
You hardly hear or see people go to AKS/Uyo to search for greener pastures as compared to PH.

Yes Uyo is developing but still not at the level of ph.
Because Singapore is new and sparkling does not mean it's better than London. Just that as Nigerians most of us have a layman's reasoning.

I'm not gonna get involved in the topic but I've lived in London and in Singapore and I can tell you right now. London is NO match in anyway to Singapore! Believe That!

Just had to add that!

nengibo:
Note dat I said communicate effectively

Nengi, the difference between your comparison and the situation in Bayelsa state is that. All igboic subgroups can actually communicate using their native dialect with each other, with lowest comprehension levels at somewhere between 30% to 40% because they really are merely speaking igbo language with a weirder tone and maybe more slangs whereas when some of the communities that call theirselves ijaw today speak, to some other ijaws, they might have been speaking arabic or chinese as NOTHING IS INTELLIGIBLE> That's what he's saying.

The best way to solve this would be to pick one of the ijoid languages as the central one and then force everyother community that claims to be ijoid to teach it in school and require it as a requirement for getting any job in ijaw land. But I don't think that would be possible, because the New Ijaw today is a political union...most of the people within that umbrella would never accept that their core identity be thrown away for another man's.

Most of the people claiming ijaw are doing it so as not to make their community a minority in nigeria, and some would prefer to say that they are ijaw so the northeners and westerners don't accuse them of being igbo. Ijaw is now the fastest growing tribe in Nigeria, and it's not because the Izon women are delivering 20babies per family. In 1999, Ijaw tribe was about the same as the Isoko tribe. Today, those claiming Ijaws are now over 10 times the isoko and will continue to grow. We are waiting for the Ogoni people to declare that they are ijaws too and possible Isoko too, maybe one day the benin people and most other south-south. Slowly Ijaw will be the biggest Nigerian tribe. But atleast we all understand what lies underneath it all.

Binikingdowm:
same with me but dad from Benin, mum from agbor(ika)

WOW, WOW WOW!

So your mother is an ika Igbo Woman MY GOD! MY GOD! WHAT WERE YOU DOING WHEN YOU CHOSE TO CREATE US NIGERIANS, WHY DID YOU MAKE US LIKE THIS? EH GOD WHY?

So all these negative things this guy has been saying against igbo people on this nairaland, most of them non provoked and out of the blue, his mom is an igbo woman? Blood of Jesus - This country can never go foward that is truth that we are unable to tell our selves, because the problem is really not the leaders but the citizenry.

My brother I hope you're lying but even if you are, that reality is not an isolated one. The shocking level of stupidity that prevails in this country or even continent is at an unprecedented level. I am a very light skin guy who left the country for almost 20 years ago, married a European, my kids look Caucasian, my parents are dead, my only connection to nigeria now is purely an emotional one. Asides my immediate family members, my only easy chance to interact with common nigerians is Nairaland. And everytime I come here and read comments that shockingly defy common sense - I ask myself when am I going to let go of this country and move on.

To the other Edo state guys that are falling for a bait to insult igbo people and are on the other hand praising a Bendel Development Commission as welcome development, did you guys forget that about a third of Delta State is made up of igbo people, and the current gov of delta state is an igbo guy. You want Edo and Delta to co-operate while on the other hand you're insulting the gov's tribe and a good chunk of bendelites based on their tribe, and yet want them to come and co-operate with you. How do you think the gov will feel if he came here to read comments just to see how people are feeling about the issue, and only to see you guys insulting his tribe. Na wa for nigerians.

NwaEzefuNaMba:
Clear which ignorance?
That I am Akassa man from Sangana but neither speak nor understand Ijaw language; which ignorance are you talking about clearing here?

Considering your previous post, it's hard to swallow that you're an Akassa guy. This could be a very informative thread for those trying to know about tribes in bayelsa, there's really no need to mislead anyone here.

Daniwak:
OGA GEJ only adopted DAT name Azikiwe. It not his real name.. As regards Ogbia ppl answering Igbo names, it is because most Ogbia men got married to Igbo women in d olden days even now some still do. And wen they marry these women , some of dem do name their kids Igbo names.. My dad is an example.. In as much as i love d Igbos, i have to tell u there is nothing Igbotic in Ogbia. GEJ's name is Goodluck Ebele Jonathan, Azikiwe was just an adopted name. U saying some Ogbia has igbo names as last name is a lie

My brother your arguement tire person oh, so you're agreeing with me from one side of your mouth and on the other side disagreeing. So you are agreeing that they answer igbo names and saying their is nothing igbotic about them. Is the igbo name not an igbotic trait? Wont that confuse the northerners or yorubas that the person is an Igbo guy before even hearing from the person, like the way they are treating uche secondus from andoni. And Yes, they do bear igbo surnames, In the Late 80s as a child I visited olobiri for a contract my dad was trying to get to build a classroom block, i talked about it in another thread. My dad's step brother befriended a local carpenter and the guys name was Augustine Nwokoma.

Whether the ogbia people are an igbo community or not is not what we are talking about here, after all the ogbia people identify as an ijoid group and that is case closed. This thread was about the fact that a guy with a full igbo name was being praised as a true bayelsan by dickson and people jumped in to say there's no one community with igbo names in Bayelsa forgetting that you have the Ogba people who are an igbo subgroup who answer full igbo names and the Ogbia people who sometimes name their kids with igbo names.

Since you and I are both saying the same thing, let us allow other people to contribute to the thread.

Daniwak:
there is nothing Igboish in Ogbia kingdom..

What's the benefit of arguing such an open fact. Most of us contributing on this topic are from the south-south, what's the gain disputing an easy verifiable fact my brother. Some people from Ogbia bear igboic names either first or last or middle name or some full entire igboic name. Some straight up only English names. Former president Goodluck Jonathan is classic example, His middle Names were Ebele and Azikiwe.

Chill man!

nengibo:
Even I from Rivers understand Nembe very well, what we Izon apu don't have is a central language like the Wazobia tribes, would an Igbo man from Izzi be able to communicate with an Abriba man in their dialects effectively without central Igbo?

Would an igbo man from izzi understand an abariba man in their dialects without central igbo?

Answer is yes about 40 to 50%, because what most igboic tribes are speaking is a dialect, meaning the words are mispronounced.with few slangs sprinkled around Like the english says God and americans say Gaad, and scotts say Gut. You just need to pay attention to understand. Whereas the communities that you have listed are speaking a language that is not intelligible with each other with practically different sentence structure, and lexicon that is very very far apart. Yes, you can point a few words are similar but it's dishonest to claim that the languages are intelligible.

Point again to note, the Ogba people are also indigenous to bayelsa state, they are an igbo sub -group found in rivers and imo state. They bear full igbo names.

Lastly some people from Ogbia actually have Igbo first and/or last names, although I have to state that I dont know where that SSG is from.

The reason why you can understand nembe might probably be bacause you're from Kalabari or okrika , and nembe and kalabari are intelligible languages, But I guess you dont understand Ogbia or people from Brass. So yes Bayelsa state is not homogeneously Ijaw

What is now called Ijaw is more of a political tribe and that's what Gov dickson has been saying about core and non core ijaw. Because the people who are correctly Ijaw are the people who speak Izon, and it's unfair to them if we keep using Ijaw to the point that they cant talk about their own kin without causing confusion,

It's okay to say that new Ijaw tribe is more of a political union. Now that doesnt make it any weaker, because it;s the people within saying that they are one people. I think it actually better to have a political tribe where different tribes speaking the different languages but come to together and are saying they are the same people than to a have a tribe of many communities speaking the same language wit ah dialect but always arguing that they are different people. I'm talking about the igbo tribe here. You get?

distributeinc:
This is the reason people dislike Iboes,even when you guys are wrong you still keep arguing, it's really dumb. Iboes are neither originators or progenitors of that region...you people can keep deceiving yourselves within your region, don't bring nonsense dumb facts to a public forum. Am telling that region has been explored for more than 1000years, by European traders and explorers, the prominent locals in this region then are Ijaw fishermen, Benin and local merchants, who come to deal with these Europeans...Iboes only came there later to run away from their harsh regions...you guys came to settle there, you ain't originators, please go and learn English.
The Ijaw ethnic group consists of 50 loosely affiliated clans. These clans are based along kinship lines under the Benin Empire. Shared cultural and religious traditions.

Name State Alternate Names
Akassa Bayelsa Akaha, Akasa
Andoni Rivers/Akwa Ibom Obolo
Apoi (Eastern) Bayelsa
Apoi (Western) Ondo
Arogbo Ondo
Bassan Bayelsa Basan
Bille Rivers Bile, Bili
Bumo Bayelsa Boma, Bomo
Bonny Rivers Ibani, Uban
Buseni Bayelsa Biseni
Egbema Delta/Edo
Operemor Delta/Bayelsa Operemor, Ekeremo,Ojobo
Ekpetiama Bayelsa
Engenni Rivers Ngeni
Epie-Atissa Bayelsa
Furupagha Edo/ Ondo
Gbaranmatu Delta Gbaranmatu
Gbaran Bayelsa Gbarain
Iduwini Bayelsa/Delta
Isaba Delta
Kabo Delta Kabowei, Kabou
Kalabari Rivers
Kolokuma Bayelsa
Kou Bayelsa
Kula Rivers
Kumbo Delta Kumbowei
Mein Delta/Bayelsa
Nembe Bayelsa
Nkoro Rivers Kala Kirika
Obotebe Delta
Odimodi Delta
Ogbe Delta Ogbe-Ijoh
Ogbia Bayelsa
Ogboin Bayelsa
Ogulagha Delta Ogula
Okordia Bayelsa Okodia, Akita
Okrika Rivers Wakirike
Olodiama (East) Bayelsa
Olodiama (West) Edo
Opobo Rivers
Opokuma Bayelsa
Oporoma Bayelsa Oporomo
Oruma Bayelsa Tugbene
Oyakiri Bayelsa Beni
Seimbiri Delta
Tarakiri (East) Bayelsa
Tarakiri (West) Delta
Tungbo Bayelsa
Tuomo Delta / Bayelsa
T.T Clan

Ukomu Edo

Wow interesting you have called me names without reading or trying to understand what I wrote. And then you put a list of names of different nigerdelta communities of which most have no linguistic or cultural ties and you re calling them Ijaw. So I think I understand what you're up to. you've considered yourself the defender of Ijaw territory regardless of whatever facts or fiction are put together. I don't know how you've gotten away with doing this, but today you made a mistake, you've added my community in there. I'm from Opobo and we are not ijaw people, we don't speak Izon neither do we practice it. all we have is the water festival which is copied from Kalabari people, and we only send representative to the IYC as we do also send reps to other regional tribal meetings. Our history unlike most other communities in nigeria is written and is recent. Also the Andoni just like us speak a language which is a mash up of Akwaibom, igbo and a little ibani and you have also listed them as an Ijaw community, so many of the communities are just riverine or nigerdelta communities and i guess for you that is synonymous with Ijaw, why didnt you list Ogoni now. My guy na wa for you oh! I thought you were genuinely trying to talk history rather you're clearly trying to armtwist reality to prove your point. Goodluck!

distributeinc:
500years is recent history...am talking about originators, origins of the region, don't jump into an argument you don't know how it began...trading has been on in that region for more than a thousand years... and your fellow was claiming Iboes to be Progenitors of Ijaw, for record sake, I had to save young ones from being misled on here...am sure you know what the word Progenitors means...this is a fallacy.

The word progenitors means fore fathers, and should not be confused with originators. Saying the progenitors of ijaws is igbos is misleading, but saying some of the progenitors of ijaws are igbos us factual information. The same is also correct for igboic tribes that reside around boundaries with ijaws, most would have ijaw forefathers. 500 years is enough time to create 1500 generations, that's a long time.

I am from the south - south, rivers state in particular. If your intent is to educate or contribute, let's not arm twist history in other to win an argument or prove a point. Nobody benefits from that.

Have a Great Day!

BackToLife:
Wow! This guy said some hard truth.

mainman7:
Did you notice that even his last win didn't get much attention like this his one loss? Moral: many would pretend not to see you achieving, and go all gleeful when you lose.

No matter how we pretend, the truth is the truth, and always too glaring. The demoralizing hate comments against Olufemi Anthony Joshua has been from Igbos and some very very few gullible senseless Yorubas that follows anything Igbos say. What hurts Igbos most in this life is to see Yorubas shine. With perfect hatered, they hate to see Yorubas shine. They are subconsciously green with incurable envy of Yorubas, so, they tell other tribes very slanderous derogatory things about the Yorubas They never say a single good thing about Yorubas even though they are far more evil, less intelligent and greedy than the Yorubas. Igbos should naturally accept that God created Yorubas to be superior to them. They should just bow to us so that Nigeria can move forward.

Igbos are the most selfish shallow-minded sad Souls on Earth. Igbos still don't realize that Yorubas are not ordinary beings.

Intelligent Yorubas have now understand why Igbos are forever pained. The pathological hatred that Igbos have towards Yorubas is unconsciously because Yorubas have naturally first achieved and still achieving every Greatness that Igbos hope to achieve in this Life: they stigmatized and spread lies that Yorubas are cowards, yet we gallantly won the 1635 Oshogo War against the Fulanis (something that Igbos can never achieve). They said we are not strong to fight yet we've produced the likes of Anthony Joshua the Strongest Man in the World for a while now, something no Igbo has ever and shall never achieve. Imagine if Olufemi was Igbo, we won't have rest from their shout of "Igbo Amaka" since all his winnings. Igbos started businesses hoping to produce the richest man and woman, yet non of them is as rich as Adenuga or Alakija. They started Churches, yes non of theirs could ever be as Great as that of Oyedepo or Adeboye. Igbos tried to top the Education sector and had to abandon that dream because Yorubas are the ones intelligent enough not only to lead that but lecture as numerous Professors in USA Universities and all over Europe Universities. Nigerian Ecommerce Crown belongs to Sola Akinlade of PayStack, Biggest Nigerian Forum owned by my Guy grin the great Yoruba son of Oshewa. Igbos started Arochukwu Cult, yet non of them could ever be as International as Ogboni. I don't know a single Yoruba man that belong to Arochukwu, but Igbos have no option than to bow to Yoruba superiority as many of them have joined Yoruba Ogboni Fraternity.


Igbos are the worst satanic ingrates in the World, they are never grateful for accommodating or showing them love. Yorubas should know that the only way they'll get their well deserved respect from Igbos is not by showing them love, but by treating them like Northerners do. The more you show Igbos love the more they'll disrespect and hate you. The only language they understand is to kill them and treat them without iota of mercy. Unlike HausaFulani that regularly slaughter them like chickens, we Yorubas accommodate them on our Lands as brothers but they are always enviously plotting evil against us and spreading slanderous derogatory lies about us.
Some intelligent NLander Yoruba guys and I were discussing Igbo/Yoruba observed stuffs and we came to one conclusion that some igbos were applying 48 Laws Power rules to brainwash gullible Yorubas here. Last year, they started derogatorily calling and generalizing all Yorubas as Afonjas when we were known as Awoists since my earliest times on NairaLand. They know you soon take on the Character of the name you accept. Before this igbos started this nonsense, we on NL know purselves to be Awoists portraying the great Awolowo values. Just like the igbos planned and hoped, now some gullible easily brainwashed Yorubas go like "we Afonjas are the best" .... Afonja was the greatest Enemy of Yorubas while Awolowo brought innumerable great pace-setting Achievements to Yoruba Land and to Nigeria as a whole. Awolowo is Nigeria's Greatest Generallissimo whose millitary intelligence and strategy quickly ended long-fought Civil war. igbos fabricated and perpetuated a lie that Awo ate poison when it was medically confirmed that Awolowo died from cardiac issues at ripe old age of 78 years old (how many of them spreading lies against us would even reach 70), which must have resulted from restlessly patriotically carrying the burden of efforts to make Nigeria great. Even Great Britain said Awolowo is the best President Nigeria never had. Some brainwashed Yorubas may try to point out Awo's faults, forgetting that NO humanbeing can be perfect. Ojuckwu cowardly ran away, yet igbos celebrate him till date. If he was to be Yoruba, he would have been skinned alive when he returned. Infact, his family would have been made to forever bury their head in shame. If you have NEVER achieved 10% of what Awo achieved for Yorubas and you crucify Awo... Any igbo that calls we Yorubas afonja again instead of Awoists shall soon die a painful death!

Next time you see a Yoruba, duff your hat and bow!

Wow the hatred in that post had me shook, knowing the kind of person that AJ is, he would definitely DESPISE your type.

Listen friend, you've said a lot of incorrect things in that post but I felt compelled to respond to one otherwise I would be doing a disservice to Humanity especially since this is a conversation about boxing.

One of the first black boxing heavy weight champs way way before mohammed Ali, was an Igbo guy by the name of Dick Tiger - started fighting in the 50's. He was born and raised in Nigeria, was spotted in Nigeria and brought back a lot of the fights here.

Really sad that you don't know, but then again from your comments I can you tell you're not only very young but also very lost. Get Better friend.

distributeinc:
Of course the Europeans have trawlers, and vessels, and have some advanced tools that they came with, am disputing the part you mentioned the Iboes, they were not part of the early dwellers, fishermen, business men, or explorers of that region at those times.do you just believe everything you hear from your folks or Elders from your village...lol, do proper research, don't state folklores on public forums.

Sadly many young nigerians do not know their origin or lineage. The majority of what you call Ijaw if checked for DNA would have a huge percentage of iGBO matches. The Ijaws were massively trading and intermarrying with igbos for over 500 years, thats why a lot of the words in most ijoid languages are the same meaning in igbo. Please read about the Aro Confederacy, Nigerian government would never let the citizens know their proper origin otherwise the balance of things in the country might change.

Here is one fact you should know. Within the old Eastern Nigeria - A lot of the tribes within are displaced and are speaking a language that is not originally theirs or have moved from an original territory and is now occupying a territory absolutely far away from their origin.

Hundreds of years before the name Britain was ever imagined the Aro confederacy existed with Kings And Armies from many tribes of the old east coming together to form a powerful pact, what we are now calling Ijaws (Which is a very broad term) was one of those tribes and the language of communication was actually a written one called nsidibi. Please read about this tell anyone else who doesnt know.

grandstar:
This is utter nonsense.

He forgot to mention the Hutus in Rwanda constituted 90% of the population. I doubt the Fulani are more than 5% of the population. Also, the Hutus dominated the armed forces. They were the majority. The Fulani are a minority here. There are far more dissimilarities than there are similarities.

FFK is just trying to heat up the polity by crude exaggerations of the rise of Fulani banditry and the herdsmen menace.

Interestingly and on the contrary, what you have said actually helps FFK's rant. If you take out the word fulani in your comment and replace it with Herdsmen, you'll see the similarity in historical pattern as FFK was saying. Herdsmen are Hausa's and Fulani's combined (possibly have some foreigners too), but the hausa's and fulani control the entire security apparatus in the country right now even on regional levels and they combined make up over 80% of the entire population of northern nigeria (Yes, northern nigeria is at play here). Another point to note is that, a genocide is when over 100k people or more are slaughtered in a civil crisis. While I agree and believe that majority of Hausa and Fulani people are people who just want to go about their lives and live it peacefully, the herdsman on the other hand is an armed militia/business men, with the legal license to carry automatic assault rifles. Keywords "herdsmen" "northern nigeria" "genocide"


Now, I that have re-imagined the similarity for you, here is the what FFK was saying, he's worried that the with way the herdsmen are sort of being protected by this administration, they could be emboldened to carry out a genocide. Do you agree? For me, I think it's a very realistic threat. Here my own picture

First of all I agree that the AM radio station targeting only fulani herdsmen could be an effective tool to reduce illiteracy within the group and possible soften them, it could also be a fantastic tool to easily mobilize this group that is already armed to spring an attack. So the success of the radio depends on the actually genuine intentions of those creating it. Buhari might be doing it with genuine intentions but those he sends to run/manage it might not.

With a poorly managed radio station, the currently somewhat psychological support the herdsmen are getting from the current government and little spark of a small community clash, the herdsmen could easily strike a location very much closer to them in the thousands and then boom genocide.

Let me say this in another way, imagine that a community clash causes a TIV community in Benue state to kill maybe 3 herdsmen, and now thanks to the radio station a commentator on the radio cries about how the herdsmen are being killed like chicken that they should rise and defend theirselves, thanks to now dedicated radio station now reaching a much bigger audience , 5 thousand ill advised herdsmen could easily be mobilised to Benue state and before a large contingent of the Nigerian Army gets there, that 5,000 armed with assault rifles could easily kill over 200,000 people. The herdsmen are already very good at springing surprise attacks. That's how easy it is.

And trust me in that scenerio nothing go happen. some scape goats will be arrested and put on trial for decades but the status quo would still remain thesame, politicians would come out and sing kumbaya together, the state will be declared a state of emergency, military would fully occupy the state, and surviving TIV would accept their fate that "this is nigeria". Take the TIV tribe and replace it with any other minority tribe within easy access reach of a large amount of herdsmen and it's the same and nothing will happen. This could also happen in either igbo or yoruba land, but saying nothing will happen is unlikely as an event like that would increase thirst of blood from the retaliating big tribe that can lead us back to a civil war. The polity is very heated, FFK's words are as realistic as it gets.

I worry that a genocide by the herdsmen is something of when not if...because all those parameters needed for it to happen has already been placed and as I stated expect the status quo to remain the same if the tribe attacked is a small tribe, the country would continue to exist unabated.

interestingly not a single person has asked about this mans state of origin. The name Ifeanyi Oparaji could be a person from Kogi, Benue, Rivers, Edo, Akwaibom etc. While everyone is placing the heat on the entire igbo tribe without asking questions, one would expect thesame would be done if this was a positive news.

Anyways this goes to show everyone outside the south east who is of an igboid speaking tribe, that other nigerians do not see you as anything more or less than which you obviously are, regardless of how you try to creatively re-imagine your origin. A really good case study/ food for thought.

Wow a very very insulting article,

Which mod edited this article to look like this,- Ohanaeze Begs Kanu to reconcile with Asari -, however the content states that it's some other organization that claims to be a youth arm of Ohanaeze. Why not say in the heading that it's a youth ohanaeze.

This whole article and organization appears to be created to insult igbo people. Why would a group bearing the name of Ohanaeze be asking Asari to settle for peace between SS and SE. Is Asari the King of SS, what relevance is Asari in the SS. Does the Obong of Calabar answer to Asari? Does Oba of Benin Answer to Asari. What type of insult is this to the South South People. After Asari left his problem with Kanu and started insulting all igbo people who represent over 20% of the people residing in the south south, they still expect asari to be apologized to. Ir means obviously this article was paid for by asari.

And those of you who are looking for who to insult, please stop using "Ijaw", Asari is actually an Okrika Man, and it was only recently (during OBJs regime) that the people of Okrika started accepting that they should be called ijaw people. There is no semblance whatsoever between Okrika and Izon (who are the real ijaw people). The term ijaw is now used to describe the riverine tribes of niger delta a political front, and some of those communities are igboid speaking. If you are igbo man insulting "the term ijaw" you are also insulting yourself, same goes to any ijoid person claiming ijaw and insulting igbo people.

This nairaland is really just a place for nigerians to become tribalistic.

I know this thread is long been abandoned and I hate to be the guy that's bringing this back to the fore - considering the amount of hate and vitriol from all the posters. However I think it's important that I leave my own imprint for educational purposes as some child someday might be looking for answers.

I came about this thread searching for a block of classrooms which was built in Olobiri somewhere between 1989 and 1991. My dad was one of the contenders for the government contract back then. He sent his cousin to stay in there in Olobiri to evaluate the feasibility of the contract for about a week. On the fifth day of his cousins stay, my dad took two other of his cousins to visit the cousin who was there to get more insight on what he had found out - though I was a little boy at the time, my my dad unwisely took me with him.

While visiting my dad's cousin in olobiri, we met him with an older man, a very good local friend he had made who was a carpenter, the man was in his possible middle sixties. During the course of the conversation over food and drinks, the old man said the people of Ogbia were actually ogba people, however people now think them apart since the creation of rivers and imo state that divided both territories. He also said the people of Ogbia were originally igbo's who come from ancestor by the name of Okoro Oma (which means good man in igbo), and their interaction and intermarriage with izon and nembe watered down the igbo dialect. The man himself at the time spoke a very good amount of central igbo. He said most ogbia people would have an igboic middle name , which might today explain the Ebele in former president's name, and I really dont know if the younger people still do this. I haven't had a chance since my adult life to meet people from Ogbia speaking their language so I don't know how much is intelligible with igbo.

Ogba people on the other hand speak a more igboic language and bear full igbo names. Part of Ogbaland was removed from the old imo state and placed in rivers state, other parts of Ogbaland still remain in Imo state. So following the old man's theory from back then, ogba people are split into rivers., imo and bayelsa state.

Everything I have written here, should not be taken as the word of God, however, if you're researching about the history of Ogbia, I hope that I have presented something worth looking into. I came back to research about the classroom blocks because my dads cousin died from a serious Typhoid/ malaria after spending a week in Olobiri, my Dad never got the contact to build the classroom blocks and never forgave himself for the death of his beloved cousin till my dads death a few years ago.

Shalom!

Donald95:
If Asari tries this, It will mark a very huge Comma in the history of Igbo and South South. That long brotherliness will be destroyed. Nnamdi Kanu is like a god in the eyes of many Ndi Igbo

Very sad and uninformed statement. You guys seem to be giving this Asari of a person more relevance than he actually should be given. Is Asari the King of the South South? Is the so-called South South not made of atleast 20 % Igboid people?

I think it's time we make something about Asari. Politically Ijaw refers to the community of riverine tribes that have come together to form a national front of which some igboic speaking tribes are part of the group. Whilst as a tribe ijaw means the Izon people. Asari actually is not an Izon man, He is from Okrika and the language spoken by Okrika people is not in anyway understandable by Izon people. The okrika people are actually only started refering to theirselves officially as Ijaw during the negotiation for resource control during obj's government. So if you are trying to insult Asari, don't insult ijaw people, direct your insults to Asari's tribe which is Okirika.


P/s: After reading news and threads on this board since 07, I only just signed up a few days ago and I worry that my overall mental state/self respect might have gotten to a very low place especially when I see my self responding to troll tribalist comments. I really have to take a break and get back to the real world. Anyone else?

Mr. Asari Dokubo,

Rather than focusing squarely on your beef with nnamdi kanu and his association and exposing whatever really happened so that reasonable people can see reasons with you, instead you have resulted to insulting the entire igbo tribe, putting you and anybody supporting you in a very isolated space.

Anybody who grew up in Rivers State knows that when an Okirika person is talking about an Igbo man in Rivers State, they're basically talking about any both igbos from S.E and the igboid tribes of Rivers State. This is what your people's complain have been since 1999 that only igbo speaking people have been ruling the state, My question for you now Mr. Man is "Who wan con support you for national level now?" since you have now left your problem with kanu and you are now insulting the people who were majorly backing you. Former Governors Amaechi and Odili and now Gov. Nwaike are self proclaimed proud igbos, Gov. Ifeanyi Okowa, Supreme justice mary Odili who helped you in the past is an igbo woman, so you are insulting all these people because of your problem with kanu. In rivers state alone all the igboic clans, the eches, the ikwerres, ogba, ndoni, opobos, Ngwa,etc so you are insulting all of us because of your problem with kanu?

Patience Jonathan who greatly enriched you and gave you heaven and earth her mother was igbo woman, so you are insulting her mother too? The last time your house was surrounded by the military FFK who is married to an Ibo woman was the one who alerted the entire nigeria, that your house was surrounded, so you are insulting his wife too? Even you who say his greatgrand parents are from Abam or Obosi, and who's grandmother was an igbo woman,so you are insulting your grandmother and great grand parents too because of Kanu? Is this not foolishness of the highest order? Is there any okirika person who can not track atleast one of their great-grand parents to igboland? so you insulting all Okirika people? because of kanu? Which learned person wan con stand gidiba for ground support you now nah? Who wan isolate theirself for a man who has now with even video evidence demonstrated that he is dangerously selfish, hope nobody will come and claim in the future that this video was doctored, and asari didnt say these things.

Oga e go hard for from now on oh, e better for you to buy rope keep am oh, as you have given these so called "Gambari People" the psycological muscle to come and end you as no reasonable rivers citizen ijaw or igbo will touch your matter or carry your matter for head. Or do you think it is the few boys you have armed that's why the nigerian army hasn't come to take you to cleaners. how many people are there in the entire okirika land?

And wait oh! So all this while that you have been disturbing us and singing about Biafra, you haboured all this hate for igboic people and think of us as slaves? so you are looking for a country where you can start slave and master relationship with igboic people as your slave? An okrika man from a tribe with less than 200k people want to be Slave Master to the igboid people of over 55million? haven't you obviously lost your mind?

And stop dragging Ijaw peoples name to the mud, hiding behind the ijaw umbrella. Since you are now being specific in your attacks please start saying Okirika instead of ijaw anytime you describe yourself, no Izon man can understand any of the things you are saying your videos, there is absolutely no understanding in any two sentences between Okirika and Izon, so please use okirika so that anybody listening can be clear of who is speaking. Ijaw National Conference is a political association of riverine tribal communities to form a larger political front, the term "ijaw" is now used to describe that union and there are igboic speaking tribes within the association, so if you want to start displaying madness please clearly state your tribe. Afterall Izon people have their own freedom fighters too, who are much more influential than you, the likes of Mr. Goverment etc, and they will never come out to display this type of madness that you are displaying.

Many people of the niger-delta who dont really know how dangerously selfish you are might be shocked at these new things you are saying but I'm not one of them. In the early 2000's in your fight with ateke for who will control pipeline bunkering in the area, you and boys shot people, torched and burnt down so many houses leaving over 33 of your own people dead women and children including within 24 hours of rioting, a sales girl who worked for my dad's shop at the time lost her mother and sister. Your boys terrorized creek road market thereafter doing everything from begging for food to robbing and raping people. Sadly given that most people from Nigeria are suffering from Stockholm syndrome, we end up idolizing those who hurt us the people who hurt us the most. That is why you are still here alive, having mouth to say his people love him.

I have always hoped that judgement will come to you one day on this earth for all the people you and your boys killed and evil you have done thus far in rivers and bayelsa state, maybe this your newly found madness is God answering that prayers, as those so-called "Gambari People" who have been looking for great opportunity to nail you the cross can now come for neck without worrying about a greater spiral web of repercussion.

Goodluck! you will need it!

Yyeske:
Where were you when Nnamdi Kanu was busy dishing out insults everywhere and his minions were busy propagating the insults, I feel pained that Asari could insult the great Igbo nation just because of one person but what did you do when the insults from Nnamdi Kanu, Uche Mefor, Emma Powerless and IPOB start? Many of you were happy when other ethnic groups were called parasites, slaves etc and you even helped in promoting it all over social media, now it's your turn to receive same you are giving advice.
What goes around comes around, law of karma

Well I guess the difference between Kanu and Asari is Kanu while in 9ja after insulting some people as you say was still able to travel to 8 different states, and over 20 igbo speaking cities and was welcomed by mobs tens of thousands at all these states and cities. When he was jailed in Abuja and the judge requested a sitting senator as surety with land properties - that request was filled within a couple of days as there was a multitude of senators at his whim for him to chose from. I am very sure even if the judge had requested for owner of an international bank, the request would be have been filled as over half the banks in this country is owned/run by a person from the igboid community. I'm also very sure that if even if the judge had requested for person from vatican city or a known hollywood superstar, Kanu would have had options of people to chose from. So you can see where his Kanu's arogance is coming from. He believes he has a backing of a huge community. Mind you I'm not saying it was good for kanu to go around insulting person. My approach to this conversation is how Asari can come out of this grave that he has dug for himself.

How does Asari's arrogance stack up now compared to Kanu, where can this man now go and find support, he's from a community of merely 200k people and of which over 80% of them have an igboid background. This man can no longer travel freely within rivers to associate himself with other rivers people as over 60% of the people in this state are of igboic speaking communities. He's left his beef with kanu and started throwing stones at his own house, and his friends and family. He obviously has no one advising him. Any little local politician in rivers now can now shake this guy and governor Nwaike will be glad even though used to be associated with him through Patience because Nwaike is very close to Patience Jonathan who is from Okrika.

Who wan con stand with this guy now.

Mr. Asari Dokubo,

Rather than focusing squarely on your beef with nnamdi kanu and his association and exposing whatever really happened so that reasonable people can see reasons with you, instead you have resulted to insulting the entire igbo tribe, putting you and anybody supporting you in a very isolated space.

Anybody who grew up in Rivers State knows that when an Okirika person is talking about an Igbo man in Rivers State, they're basically talking about any both igbos from S.E and the igboid tribes of Rivers State. This is what your people's complain have been since 1999 that only igbo speaking people have been ruling the state, My question for you now Mr. Man is "Who wan con support you for national level now?" since you have now left your problem with kanu and you are now insulting the people who were majorly backing you. Former Governors Amaechi and Odili and now Gov. Nwaike are self proclaimed proud igbos, Gov. Ifeanyi Okowa, Supreme justice mary Odili who helped you in the past is an igbo woman, so you are insulting all these people because of your problem with kanu. In rivers state alone all the igboic clans, the eches, the ikwerres, ogba, ndoni, opobos, Ngwa,etc so you are insulting all of us because of your problem with kanu?

Patience Jonathan who greatly enriched you and gave you heaven and earth her mother was igbo woman, so you are insulting her mother too? The last time your house was surrounded by the military FFK who is married to an Ibo woman was the one who alerted the entire nigeria, that your house was surrounded, so you are insulting his wife too? Even you who say his greatgrand parents are from Abam or Obosi, and who's grandmother was an igbo woman,so you are insulting your grandmother and great grand parents too because of Kanu? Is this not foolishness of the highest order? Is there any okirika person who can not track atleast one of their great-grand parents to igboland? so you insulting all Okirika people? because of kanu? Which learned person wan con stand gidiba for ground support you now nah? Who wan isolate theirself for a man who has now with even video evidence demonstrated that he is dangerously selfish, hope nobody will come and claim in the future that this video was doctored, and asari didnt say these things.

Oga e go hard for from now on oh, e better for you to buy rope keep am oh, as you have given these so called "Gambari People" the psycological muscle to come and end you as no reasonable rivers citizen ijaw or igbo will touch your matter or carry your matter for head. Or do you think it is the few boys you have armed that's why the nigerian army hasn't come to take you to cleaners. how many people are there in the entire okirika land?

And wait oh! So all this while that you have been disturbing us and singing about Biafra, you haboured all this hate for igboic people and think of us as slaves? so you are looking for a country where you can start slave and master relationship with igboic people as your slave? An okrika man from a tribe with less than 200k people want to be Slave Master to the igboid people of over 55million? haven't you obviously lost your mind?

And stop dragging Ijaw peoples name to the mud, hiding behind the ijaw umbrella. Since you are now being specific in your attacks please start saying Okirika instead of ijaw anytime you describe yourself, no Izon man can understand any of the things you are saying your videos, there is absolutely no understanding in any two sentences between Okirika and Izon, so please use okirika so that anybody listening can be clear of who is speaking. Ijaw National Conference is a political association of riverine tribal communities to form a larger political front, the term "ijaw" is now used to describe that union and there are igboic speaking tribes within the association, so if you want to start displaying madness please clearly state your tribe. Afterall Izon people have their own freedom fighters too, who are much more influential than you, the likes of Mr. Goverment etc, and they will never come out to display this type of madness that you are displaying.

Many people of the niger-delta who dont really know how dangerously selfish you are might be shocked at these new things you are saying but I'm not one of them. In the early 2000's in your fight with ateke for who will control pipeline bunkering in the area, you and boys shot people, torched and burnt down so many houses leaving over 33 of your own people dead women and children including within 24 hours of rioting, a sales girl who worked for my dad's shop at the time lost her mother and sister. Your boys terrorized creek road market thereafter doing everything from begging for food to robbing and raping people. Sadly given that most people from Nigeria are suffering from Stockholm syndrome, we end up idolizing those who hurt us the people who hurt us the most. That is why you are still here alive, having mouth to say his people love him.

I have always hoped that judgement will come to you one day on this earth for all the people you and your boys killed and evil you have done thus far in rivers and bayelsa state, maybe this your newly found madness is God answering that prayers, as those so-called "Gambari People" who have been looking for great opportunity to nail you the cross can now come for neck without worrying about a greater spiral web of repercussion.

Goodluck! you will need it!

horsepower101:
Onyeopobo, Do you have any ideas on how we can strengthen the relationship of opobo people with the rest of Ndigbo?

In a general sense, most people from Opobo town are generally very open minded and laid back because of the multiple ethnicities around us, more like most communities in Rivers State, Because we're a multicultural state and tribalist undertones will get you no allies, hence why most notable igbo politicians from rivers state are not usually at the fore front of any Pro-igbo anything to avoid issues with our neighboring communities. But deep inside we know ourselves and where we belong to should there be an eventual collapse of nigeria and that's what most of my input in this thread has mostly been about. I'm sorry I can't sound fully tribalist as I am not that type of person but i have become sentimental about our tribe and how badly we have been sidelined in Nigeria even though we are a staggering majority.

To be honest Opobo people are basically hooked on everything igbo, and I don't think this is done because we do it for tribalist reasons or to prove anything to anybody but it's a natural evolution of life for any igbo person born in an igbo community and because what we speak is central igbo ours is even stronger. If you walk around on any given day what you would here playing in the backgrounds are igbo songs like you'd hear in any other major igbo city or town. In church we preach in igbo and sing igbo and kalabari songs like most rivers state communities.

When an opobo man is accomplished and is ready to marry we usually end with an igboid or opobo or bonny woman. I'm very sure if you look around you might find an Opobo man who married a yoruba or edo woman even though I can't think of one myself, but 80% percent of opobos end up with an igbo speaking spouse. Again I don't think it's done out of tribalism but as a natural progression of life of an igbo person. Because when you meet fellow igbo speaking person and the relationship gets serious, it usually more likely ends in a marriage as there is not going to be any tribal friction from family or close relatives about who you're marrying. So i guess with that high percentage of igbo marriages, opobos are unintentionally strengthening ties with inland igbo communities. So as an Opobo person, you are most definitely at a lot of times in your life doing some sort of in-law visiting or partying in inland igbo communties.

Also a lot of people from opobo usually travel to Amaigbo to participate in activities because king jaja was originally from there, i guess you would call that strengthening of ties too. Our current king has been to imo state to participate with activities with other igbo kings i think a couple of times, but again in order for him to maintain peace with nearby communities it's best he doesnt appear to maintain a Pro-Igbo only agenda. Which I know sounds bad because Yoruba elders usually hold pro yoruba only agenda, and edo's usually meet on pro edo only basis but when anything "pro- igboid only" is planned people make it look like something bad is being planned.

I think the biggest issue in igboland is lack of a reasonable Ohaneze, that pan socio group is so useless, A serious pan igbo organization would be sponsoring yearly beauty pageants like Miss Igboid, or sporting events where only igbo clans and communities are allowed to participate with huge cash rewards for winners and participants. Our tribe took a reputation hit in nigeria and In order to undo the damage brought upon our tribe by kaduna nzeogu and his boys and the loss of the biafran war, any pan igbo group's first mission is to fight the stigma in most igboid communities that cause it's indigenes to say they're not igbos.

What makes you an igbo person is not whether or not your people fought for the biafran army or supported the biafran army during the war, The igbo's existed before Nigeria and before the biafran war. What makes your community an Igbo community is whether or not you can understand an igbo person on a basic level without translation. The similar traits in the language is akin to a DNA evidence that our fore fathers have left for us so we always know who our kinsmen are, and can track ourselves back to our root. They may not have left a library or a book, but they left a language as proof of who we are.

Here's a quick story, a friend of mine from imo state who has a business at creek road market in ph recently got married to an Idoma girl, most people were asking him why he is marrying a hausa woman and the guy being someone who is not articulate always responded with "Oh it's love, love found me". I went with him open minded for the traditional wedding in benue state and I was shocked, not just myself but most of us igbos who went from PH, we could (speaking for myself I could) understand at least 50 percent of everything being said at every point, So basically put I could get the point in every conversation without translation. I always thought of Benue state as hausa land and thought of Tuface idibia as hausa guy. And also whenever I heard about fulanis killing people in Benue State, I always thought when are the hausas going to stop killing their self. But then again if you're old enough to know tuface's first album with african queen in it, you probably heard since that fully idoma song and back then I was thinking why is this hausa guy singing an ikwerre song. Now I know.

I'm a workaholic and may not have enough time to input alot in this topic, but i'll try my best, but on a final note most opobo people are igbos at heart, we bear english and kalabari names (because of our history with kalabari), a few igbo first names but we speak crystal clear central igbo and unlike most other igbo clans we have a very clear documented history so we can't say we are from sudan or benin or fell from the sky otherwise anybody at point in time who wants to make a case can come back and point our history and it's case closed.

at OP and the baba who is now disclosing atiku's origin. Nigeria became a country in 1960, people born before that were not nigerians at birth. Most of the people running nigeria today and a good chunk of the population were not nigerians at birth.

OgaBuhari:
shut up there and stop spewing trash.
What do u mean by igbos in SS.
Thunder fire that ur mouth.
There are only Yorubas in SS, the Okpe and Itsekiri people of Delta and Akokoedo of Edo state are Yorubas in SS but there are no igbos in SS.
Don't try to attach inferior selves with Etche, Ndoni Ikwere Anioma and Ika cos they will cut off ur head with matchet if u dare call them igbos.
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You sound childish my friend. Since you are nigerian it would be good for you know to read properly on nigerian tribes to educate yourself so that you can properly inform a foreigner should you be asked about what is or what isnt. Although it very obvious that you're not writing based on what is fact, your intent is to either mislead or foist your own dreaming reality. But whatever rocks your boat.

I do have to let you know tho that I am am igbo man from the south south and as much I would like for nigeria to succeed, it is people like you that would bring forward the eventual down fall of this country. No relationship built on lies can ever last. people like you and their sponsors who go out their way to arm twist, change and convulse the origin of tribes in nigeria in the hopes that you can continue with your population lies, is no longer deceiving anyone else. Most people in southern nigeria today are educated to read, and attempting to arm twist their history would more than likely bring the tribes you're trying to put apart together.

condemn:
I'm an Urhobo. Urhobo, Itsekiri and Ijaw nor be part of that one Biafra oh

The Urhobo people are very industrious, and forward thinking people, Decades ago, I went to secondary school with a lot of urhobo guys in ph and I love and respect them on a very personal level, but with due respect my Urhobo friend, I don't think the Urhobo should be or are being brought into the Biafran Issue. The Urhobo people have a better commune with western nigeria, same as itsekiris. As for the Ijaws, since you're an Urhobo native, I don't think it's fair for you to be speaking for the Ijaw people.

One thing you should know is the people clamouring for Biafra are people who's tribes were part of the Aro Confederacy which is was the closest semblance you'd call to a republic that ran for over 600 years in west africa before the europeans came and created these national boundaries. In the final war that brought down the Aro Confedaracy, the british sent over 1,000 British Soldiers armed guns to bring down the Aro confederates, tens of thousands were killed during that war, including many warriors from Ijawland. The war was the final straw that guaranteed the british the full control of Eastern region of present day nigeria. Many ijaw soldiers also died for biafra during the biafran war and only switched sides when they thought their views were being sidelined, some very popular ijaws in 9ja today are at the forefront of this biafran conversation. The creation of delta state from the old bendel state, the usage of the term South-South or Niger Delta, and probably the lack of Nigerian History in school curriculum has created a belief that doesnt exist in real terms in your area.

My point is if Nigeria as a country were to split, I don't think the Ijaws would leave the Aro bloc that their fore fathers were trading/inter marrying with for centuries to join a possible oduduwa republic.

Having said that, It's important to note that many people in what is called ijawland today are either somewhat on the fence when it comes to biafra or not interested or like the fact that it's being raised as it's provides a good ball grabbing tool for national negotiations whenever resource control is being discussed at the national level. My 2 cents.

macello4:
u are a fool with out any apology, u ppl will cry till entity u aint see nothing. What happen to those incompetent leaders from SE u guys appointed?

My guy, it's easy for corruption to thrive when the politicians know that the citizenry is at each others gut. And the citizenry are at each others gut because most people do not believe in the country itself for starts, and genuinely believe that their people should not be within it in.

On a personal level I really want to see nigeria work but their are too many segregated selfish interests and mistrust and it's a much more impossible reality, which makes the sabotaging of anything done within nigeria very easy. May God help us all.

Yopcity:
I still don't understand why some of our Igbo brothers continue to consider so called niger delta as part of Biafra, the five igbo states are more than enough to make a formidable state and nation!

Igbos do NOT need the niger delta oil to survive, give us an international airport and a functional state and we are ok ! To hell with niger delta !

My brother i'm very sure that the nairaland trollers have succesfully trolled you into believing that their is a tribe called niger-delta and the igbos are begging the niger-delta tribe to become one. Noooo Oh! The Niger - Delta is a term used to describe the tribes that exist around the niger -delta river confluence of which includes igbos as one of them, Abia and imo states are also classified as Niger delta states. Even Obigbo which is currently where some of the fiercest fighters of Biafra live is in Rivers State, Are you planning on creating an igboland without them? A good amount of other people from other non-igbo niger delta tribes are quite sentimental to the biafran issue, and are hoping or dreaming or even working for it,

The states that are created in Nigeria where created without recourse to tribe, just a mad man sat in lagos and drew lines without thinking of the people within those lines, just like the europeans created these african countries.

If what you are saying is that the biafran issue should be an igboid issue first so that we all have some sort of clear single voice then I somewhat agree, And it's even very realistic, because the yorubas and hausas/fulanis will not think igbos are trying to take away all the oil from them and they may not resist that much. And also alot these international oil companies who believe they have invested too much in the certain parts of the niger delta would have no reason to sabotage such efforts on an international level as they stand to lose nothing.

A Biafra that is intially stricly igboid is very very realistic and can happen within 10 years if given the right push, because the propagators of "one nigeria" do not stand to lose too much in that regards. Let's think about that that.

Kennydoc:
You're right. I only mentioned Urhobo because of their proximity to Anioma which in itself is a part of Igbo land.

I'm Igbo, and I wouldn't even mind a Biafra that consists of only Igbo land. It will be far better than the present Nigeria.

I agree too. I am an igbo guy from opobo and I love and respect all my fellow people of the niger-delta tribes but in other for the world to take the agitation seriously and in other for it to materialize it should first be an only igboid issue for starters.

Afterwards only people of the Old Aro Confederation can be allowed in as we all have thesame forefathers. But for any of these tribes to be included there has to be a vote within the community and minimum 95% vote by all of the people within the community to join. Because for a country to be loved by it's people, the people within should first accept that they want to be part of that country, and that can only be done by voting - That is the civilised way of doing things.

I say this because the a lot of the other tribes of the niger-delta that are non igboic are either kind of for it or on the fense with biafra or against it or playing politics with it for their own agenda.

An Igboid Nation of over 55 million igboid speakers with a seaport at Opobo, oil in central and south igbo communities and overall igbo business working spirit (whether our other Aro brothers join or not) would be one that would be bound for greatness.

Core igboland has yet untapped oil, ikwerres/ogba's have oil right now that is being pumped at over 200,000 Barrels per day and nothing to show for it in ikwerre and ogbaland other than death and destruction.

Biafra should be an igboid affair for starters, after it's is achieved and working a lot of our "Aro Brothers" would definitely want in as they themselves can not tolerate/stand or survive in this forced nigerian contraption.

condemn:
Hope Niger delta nor dey among your Biafra sha

Oga, maybe you don't understand but the word Niger-Delta is used to describe the tribes existing on the river formed after the river niger and river delta comes together. Igbos are one of those tribes. And to be frank many tribes who do not even reside around the Niger-delta confluence call theirselves nigerdeltans because of the wrong use of that word today in the SS. So bad that some people in northern edo state call theirselves nigerdeltans.

If your are asking because you want to know whether or not your tribe is one the tribes who's clan are also asking for a new state called biafra, please state your tribe and we will answer for you.

Kennydoc:
The first 2 paragraphs of what I wrote shows that Igbos don't actually need South South to build a great nation.

Rwanda is one of the fastest growing economies in Africa today. It's a shining light in Africa as at 2019. It is a landlocked country like South East Nigeria, has a landmass a little less than South East, and they don't have crude oil. Yet it has surpassed Nigeria in many indices of development at the moment.
I said this to let you understand that Igbo land can definitely do well as a country without South South.

I talked about treating the South South right because you insinuated that Igbos will marginalise them assuming they form part of Biafra. You deliberately forgot that I first mentioned a rotational presidency. What I meant is that assuming Igbos even try to Lord it over the South South, they will still be fair on them.
Call it father and son whatever, it doesn't matter. There are over 30-40 million Igbos in Nigeria. The most populous ethnic group in the South South (Ijaw) is less than 5 million. There is no other ethnic group in the SE/SS that has up to 20% of Igbo population. What it means is that at every point in time, there will be more Igbos in any sector than any other individual tribe in the South South.
South South isn't an ethnic group. We shouldnt forget that. For instance, there is very little in common between Efik and Urhobo, Annang and Itsekiri, Ibibio and Ijaw etc, yet they are all part of the South South.

How can you be talking about a fully igbo nation that is landlocked when you have us Opobo people, which insult be that one. The southern most igbo speaking clan is the Opobos, we are right on the ocean, And there is no way that there would be an Igboid Nation of everybody speaking some sort of Igbo and we opobo people will chose to join another country and become igbo minority for wetin na? so that they would do to us what the cameroonians are currently doing to the calabar who were annexed into cameroon? God forbid! And please note that I didnt say Opobo-nkoro-bonny. I simply said Opobo because bonny people and their king are playing oil politics and can twist their history because it's not very documented but for Opobos thanks to the numerous communication between our founder king jaja and the europeans nobody can come and tell us that we are from benin or sudan.

And to correct you, the total amount of Igboic or igboid speaking people put together stands at over 55million making it the single largest ethnic group in Africa. And imagine how this yoruba and hausas/fulani are using us to play okoso. It was the loss of the biafran war and oil politics that is still hurting us, but the younger generation is learning fast, thanks to internet you don't need to ask your father about who are, you can research it yourself, and at some point when all these wicked old bastards (who collected money from the so called "one nigerialist" and came and lied to their people about their origin and arm twisted their history to fit these wicked agendas) are gone, the igboid tribe will receive a new awakening.