Aemmyjah:
Jesus genealogy was traced to Adam
Jesus was described as the second Adam
Jesus quoted what was said in the garden of Eden about marriage


If Adam is an allegory or never existed, should we believe Jesus Christ as a person and what he said?
Should we expect that the book that urges us not to lie will actually lie to us about one important question people ask - the origin of mankind?


Which one makes sense? That all races we have today descended from one couple

Or

Mankind are descent of a group of animals

Note that animals mate like animals and reproduce like animals. A lizard cannot mate a snake and give birth to an alligator. A dog won't make a cat or give birth to it.

God made out of one man every nation of men

Science is not false. Science is progressive, some theories have been proved false but as to the origin of man resulting from organic evolution, it is completely false. It did not even meet scientific method

Jesus basically is a bastard by definition.
He has no genealogy since he wasn't gathered by joseph.

The bible if taken literally is a very funny book

NigeriaIsGreat:
mumu

So you don't know gay can have kids through artificial insemination provided he has sperm

Any guy can have kids provided you have money and sperm

see this notorious beggar

paxonel:
then you are yet to understand that the Adam and Eve story may have occurred in the perspective of God's time which is not necessarily the human 24 hours per day

2 Peter 3:8 But, beloved, be not ignorant of this one thing, that one day is with the Lord as a thousand years, and a thousand years as one day.

Meaning, you can't use the human 24 hours format for God which may had applied to creationism hence evolution

Lol, you guys always have a way to defend you silly Bible stories

Ttalk:


My friend social media is a faceless forum. I understand Lagos politics like the back of my hand.

Obi cannot win Ojo LG and he won't win 3 LG.

Politics is not sentiment. It is a game of facts and figures. I have the fact and Tinubu has the figure

It's also fact that APC has been winning Lagos because they have been rigging

Another fact is that APC rigging plans now has limited options.

Reality is reality, in an election where APC cannot overfingerprint in lagos, they will struggle

maestroferddi:
Olatunji Soyinka is the member representing Surulere 2 in the HOR since 2015. He won in 2015 and was re-elected in 2019...

No time to waste with people like you whose only relevance is coming to social media to make noise...

Shock and embarrassment is awaiting Tinubu next year...

They don't know what's going to happen.

May APC members and supporters are struggling to accept the realities that BVAS has scattered their rigging plans. It's more difficult now to rig.

It's going to shock Tinubu how much vote will come against him now in Lagos.

I use to live at Ijesha, off agbebi, our councilor then was a PDP member. In Surulere 2, you cannot rig election else fight go start. everywhere hence APC hardly win, APC use to win elsewhere because people allow them to rig.

Ttalk:


That can only happen in the dream world.

I will definitely call you out after the election.

Pls don't shout rigging when Obi is beaten blue black since you are alluding that BVAS will do the magic.

I repeat, Obi can't win 3LG in Lagos State. Obi won't win Ojo Local government

you are far from reality on ground.
You are making a mistake that could cost you a lot of money if you bet.

I know you want APC to win but realities are realities. BVAS is the game changer, a serious game changer.

I won't even say anything if BVAS is here, I know APC will rig massively but that has been compromised now.

Right now, you have to make sure to convince the people to vote you whether by buying their votes or selling yourself.

To be sincere with you, if Tinubu wins lagos, it will be slim

Ttalk:


Bookmark this page today.

I repeat Obi cannot win 3 LG in Lagos state.

Obi won't win Ojo LG.
Let that sink

The only power APC would have had is to rig the election.

BVAS has made that difficult hence they will resort to vote buying.

Vote buying is very expensive and more difficult to execute.
APC is not very loved in Lagos as much as you are thinking. They have a rigging structure in place which has been compromised with BVAS .

I know they are working hard to find loopholes but the only option they have now is vote buying, which is not as potent as overvoting style of rigging

Ttalk:


Bookmark this page today.

I repeat Obi cannot win 3 LG in Lagos state.

Obi won't win Ojo LG.
Let that sink

I am not bookmarking anything, this is the reality on ground.

If BVAS didn't exist, I would have not argued with you but with the emergence of BVAS, Peter obi can even win up to 7 local governments in Lagos.
There's no way APC can rig and over-vote now

Ojo local government is the most certain for Peter obi, even if he doesn't win any, he will win here.

Wickedfacts:


Mention any politician from PDP or Labour from the entire Surulere.

That's not how it works.

Politicians cannot do much this time because they cannot thumbprint fake ballots for their parties. Even with that, PDP always win Surulere 2 where you have aguda, Coker and ijesha,

This time, the influence of politician has been bridled with the emergence of BVAS. People's vote will count

Expect obi to win Surulere.

If you look at voting pattern in lagos, you will see that APC always manage to win by rigging Alimosho. It won't work this time

Ttalk:
If Obi win 3 LG in Lagos let them declare him winner.

We are waiting for LP and Obi, they will collect wotowoto and Obi will regret why he ventured into Nigeria politics. This is Nigeria politics and not Biafra politics

common, Obi will win more than 3 local government in Lagos.
If not any, Ajeromi ifelodun, ojo and surulere is sure for Obi

You can also add amuwo odofin & oshodi isolo.

Don't be surprised even Eti osa, Lagos mainland, Somolu, Ikeja will be stiffly contested

Mynd44:

You use what was claimed to make the verdict.

If you want to do one on 2014, please enjoy

The yardstick for being a mod is to be objective and just.
How can you bring up one poverty level figure within Obi's tenure and say poverty level increased? Is that how to make judgement?

Don't allow partisanship and prejudice affect your job here as a mod.

I didn't make any claim, you made a claim that poverty level increased under Peter obi, you will prove it without shifting burden of proof.

I keep asking myself, why do we have many AntiObi topics on nairaland front page, even those that are incorrect like that of Abia state where he went for Otti's campaign, now I see why.

If you want to convince me, you will provide figures of poverty rate across board; from when he started to when he left and a comparative data with other states because poverty reduction is hugely the responsibility of the federal government policies, state government can also play a role. This will help us understand if there was an increasing poverty level and/or if the rising poverty level is not a national problem

You as a mod should know these things but I am surprise

You cannot use 2010 data to make the verdict, we have to see when he left office.

This in insincere. From a nairaland mod fa.

No wonder we see antipeter post everywhere on fp

God1000:
Let's wait for more information, Russia will surely apologize because I don't think Putin is that stupid to attack a NATO country after losing more than 100,000 soldiers in Ukraine, the humiliating defeat and withdrawal from Kherson region.

I pity ordinary Russians in advance when the unthinkable happens

Putin should not bite more than he can chew, if Russia cannot defeat Ukraine in more than 8 months, how can such country fight NATO, Russia will be obliterated.

If Putin wants to die, he should die alone, it seems he's tired of living

Russia's invasion of Ukraine is a strategic disaster and fiasco, historians will talk about it for decades to come

look at this one, if NATO enters this war, we all in for a nuclear war and we will all be dead.

Kyase:


Me and you can bet on Benue

Okay, send me a mail. We will make it public.

I cannot share my number here

buckeyemedia:
Are you not Nigerian, the people that David Cameron called fantastically corrupt? Or you are deceiving yourself, forgetting that there is no honor amongst thieves?

Rigging will be difficult now but not impossible.
You need to bribe INEC to do that or spend money bribing voters. Even at that, with real time results popping in, it will be hard to rig but it's not impossible but it will be hard to cover. .
On that basis, elections will be more credibke, maybe not totally credible. It's the reason why the ruling party can lose this election.

Votes will count more than before and it will be hard to pass figures, the reform doesn't allow that

hammerT:



THERE IS ALWAYS A POSSIBILTY FOR HIM IN LAGOS BUT THE THUGS CANNOT HELP HIM THIS TIME.


THE VOTING SYSTEM HAS CHANGED.

WHETHER HE WIN OR NOT, THE MARGIN WILL BE SMALL.

Still he won't lose Lagos.

He won't win with a large margin albeit. Peter Obi will give him a good battle Bec Lagos is the epicenter of Obedient movement

buckeyemedia:
Nothing like that in Nigeria, if not, Peter Obi would not have been Labor Parry candidate, Tinubu will not be APC’s candidate, Atiku should have been playing with his grands kids in Yola.

so are you making analysis based on rigging?

hammerT:



HE WILL STILL SHARE LAGOS VOTE MASSIVELY WITH OTHER CONTENDERS.

Lagos
Ogun
Ondo
Ekiti
Osun
Kwara
Oyo
Borno
Maybe Kogi

These are only the sure states that Tinubu can win for now.
Nobody knows the outcome of what's gonna happen in the northwest but it's evident that he has a problem to solve there

hammerT:



TINUBU CANNOT WIN BULK VOTE IN LAGOS, MAY LOSE THERE.

haha, no, I don't think Tinubu will lose Lagos.

But he will not win by landslide. His thugs will cause a lot of troubles. Tinubu will win Lagos

Aiel123:

I thought you had say PO will win Lagos.

nope, I am realistic.
Tinubu will win Lagos.
But Tinubu has no chance in Benue, no single chance.
Even the Plateau that he visited today, he will lose there if elections are free and fair

buckeyemedia:
Probably you are reporting from Makurdi?

no sir, I reside in Lagos.

Tinubu will not win Lagos in a landslide. Not a yourbas are supporting Tinubu and Lagos is cosmopolitan

Aiel123:

No. Benue aren't neutral.
In 2015 Buhari won Benue.( Northern turn to presidency)
GEJ won in 2011.

Benue is neutral, they don't care about the zoning thing.
They are minority who will be okay with anything. It's like saying Kogi is interested in zoning

All these won't give Tinubu a win there. Peter Obi is doing very well in Benue without a u bais. Atiku will be second there

buckeyemedia:
In every 12, there must be a Judas, you are in the vast minority.

More competent based on what assumptions?

Well, if not voting a druggie makes me a Judas when I accept it.

Its time we leave all these tribal nonsense and save our heads

Aiel123:

Who will win Lagos then?

Tinubu will win Lagos but the margin will not be overwhelming. Peter Obi will be second.

But you see Benue, forget sentiments, Tinubu will be 3rd there

hammerT:



WHEN TINUBU FAIL TO WIN BULK VOTE IN SW REGION AND ZERO VOTE IN SS/SE, HE WILL LNOW ASO ROCK IS NOT A RETIREMENT VILLA.

Leave these guys, Benue is for Atiku and Obi to battle.

Tinubu is not in the scheme of things in that state

Aiel123:

APC resurgence in Benue ( Yes Father and Aliazation phenomenon)
Tinubu being a southerner.
Ortom mismanagement.

You are just concocting vague reasons why you want Tinubu to win Benue but the reality says otherwise. He will be 3rd.

He's not popular in Benue

Aiel123:

APC resurgence in Benue ( Yes Father and Aliazation phenomenon)
Tinubu being a southerner.
Ortom mismanagement.

Lol, Tinubu cannot win Benue.

I am not sure if Tinubu will win president but I am sure bunue will be one state he won't win.

Benue no dey do your southerner and northerner thing. They are neutral in that regard

Britishpea:

I guess na Tinubu put you in bondage since you are in one.

I guess he actually held you by your fingers to vote for whoever you had always voted for?

So what bondage is he talking about since there's no bondage? Lol, weyrey, druggie

buckeyemedia:
You must be an Ndigbo, because only one can deceive himself that Benue State people will vote for an Igbo person?

Yes or No?

Why what basis do you think Benue won't vote an Igbo person?

I am telling you what's happening in Benue and you are telling me you want to happen in Benue.

I am a Yoruba, I won't vote Tinubu because I think Obi is more competent.

buckeyemedia:
Or you mean Anti Fulani?

Benue is both anti-APC and anti-Fulani.

It's why Obi will win there. The governor has repeatedly stood behind obi and the people prefer him

buckeyemedia:
Ortom has said no Benue person should vote for a Fulani.

if he had said that Tinubu will get 25% votes in Benue, well, I for agree but he cannot win Benue.

Not the volatile Benue that we have now

buckeyemedia:
Ortom has said no Benue person should vote for a Fulani.

So if Buhari lost Benue in 2019, why do you think A Tinubu will win?