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Christianity Etc › Re: Only The Agents Of Satan Will Defend The Rationale Behind Hell Fire Creation by otemanuduno(op): 7:55am On Aug 05, 2016
orisa37:
I thank God for you.
Praise GOD!!!
Christianity Etc › Re: The Doctrine Of The Ufos by otemanuduno(op):
CHAPTER SIX
1. When Luwabi opened another leaf, in it was a story of Ajala, a homo who reared sheep. Now Ajala had many sheep, but one of the sheep was lost, which was black. Now Ajala could not leave the remaining sheep to look for the one which was lost.
2. Now Ajala went every evening while the other sheep were sleeping to find the lost sheep which was black, but he could not find it.
3. Now after many days of labour of searching for the lost black sheep at nights, Ajala left all the sheep he has in care of the god whom he worshipped.
4. For he made his prayers and believed that none of his sheep would go missing. And so he went to search for the black sheep which was lost.
5. Now when Ajala was gone, one came around, a son of Luwabi whose name was Akano, came around and saw the sheep without shepherd. And he brought them together into one place, saying, if I leave them, they shall be lost.
6. And the owner shall trouble himself to find them and shall not find them all. Now I shall obey the teaching of Luwabi and help to keep the sheep together. So Akano called the sheep together, for he has learnt how to tame them from the teachings of Luwabi.
7. Now Ajala came to the hut of Luwabi and asked, saying, O great Luwabi, I have heard that you can divine so greatly. Now I have search for my sheep which was lost for about a week now and I have not found it. Now, O great one, divine for me and I shall find the lost sheep.
8. Now Luwabi said, I only tell people how they should behave in good ways and what they should do, but I do not divine for people because I do not have the gift.
9. Now Ajala said, so tell me, what did I do wrong? Why did I not find the lost sheep for many days now?
10. Then Luwabi said, for how many days have you been searching for the sheep? Then Ajala said, for about nine days. Then Luwabi asked, what is the color of the sheep? And Ajala said, it is black.
11. And Luwabi said, is it the only black sheep among them? And Ajala said, yes it is. The rest are white. So Luwabi said, some sheep go astray when they feel odd. Get more black sheep among the flock. Also Luwabi said, what time of the day do you search for the sheep?
12. Then Ajala said, only at nights. Then Luwabi said, why do you search for black sheep in the dark? Go and search for it in the day, for chances are that you will see it in the day and not at night. Search now with other shepherds, especially those who have many black sheep in their flock.
13. Now when Ajala went to search for the sheep, he found a shepherd who has many black sheep in his flock. Then he said, I am a shepherd myself and I have been searching for a black sheep.
14. Then the man said, I saw a black sheep in the field and its right leg was stuck in the trap. Now I helped the sheep out of the trap, acting according to the morality of Luwabi.
15. And the sheep joined itself to my flock and I said, if I see the shepherd who owns the sheep, I shall give it to him. Now have the sheep and do not let it stray away anymore.
16. So was Ajala happy. And he took the sheep with him to join the flock again. Then Ajala added more black sheep to his flock. Also, Akano who helped Ajala take care of his sheep was rewarded by Ajala.
17. Then Ajala returned to Luwabi to thank him, because both the shepherd and Akano confessed that the words of Luwabi was what made them do the good they did to him.
18. When Luwabi opened another leaf, it was the story of two women who have been quarrelling since the first day they began to see each other.
19. One of them was Apeke and the other was Aweke. Now Apeke lived just in the next house beside the hut of Aweke. And for a long time they have always had quarrels with one another. And they would hiss at each other and clap hands at each other, calling themselves bad names.
20. Now a day came when both Apeke and Aweke separately went to Luwabi to know what to do to the other. But the two women saw each other in Luwabi’s house and hissed at each other.
21. Then Luwabi said, why do you hiss at each other? Do you know each other before? So the women said, she is the one whom I brought her matter to tell you.
22. Now Luwabi asked the matter and the women said the same thing. And Apeke mentioned that her friend Ajiun was the one who told her that Aweke was a bad person. So also did Ajiun tell Aweke that Apeke was a bad person.
23. Now Luwabi said, did you both now see that Ajiun herself is the bad egg? For she has spoilt the mind of one against the other. And you foolishly hated one another even before knowing each other.
24. Now this is the conclusion of the issue; do not hate someone you do not know.
Christianity Etc › Re: The Doctrine Of The Ufos by otemanuduno(op): 5:09am On Aug 05, 2016
4everGod:
He that is in me is greater than he that is in you.
Dem no born he that tells you that he is in you well to withstand he that inspires me. Anyway, nobody is in me, unlike you who someone have to live inside you, or are you pregnant or somethinghuh

4evergod: You are being possessed by Demons assigned to Christianity to distort and destroy and mislead and lie
Why don't you use to hear word like this? Demons only possess religious people like you. Or have you ever seen your pastors casting demons out of non-church goers?(make I hear say there is anything like demons in this civilized word). Since the organ 'brain' was discovered, the word 'demon' was discarded by brain-users, but lower-thinkers will continue using it for any psychical or brainiacal manifestations.

[quote author=]You are known by many names but you are the fallen and the great Serpent. The one sent to deceive many. he it is that has possessed you. You no longer have the ability to deny which is why you are now confronting me and speaking the truth as confirmation to all i have said you are and you are doing.[/b]Your power remains inconsequential to that of the most High God whom i serve. [b]I await your visit tonight you vile lying demon from Hades[/quote]Olodo, I sabi you talkless of visiting you? Omo, me just woke up from sleep sef kon see this post. All the while in my sleep, I was playing football with Okocha inside my sleep, only me and Okocha on the football pitch o. Guess how the game went grin
Who get time for you undecided

[quote author=]Now the Spirit speaketh expressly, that in the latter times some shall depart from the faith, giving heed to seducing spirits, and doctrines of devils;" (1 Timothy 4:1)[/b]

I know you for who you are![/quote]Let me analyse that passage for you,

Many shall depart from the faith= everyone knows that THERE IS NO WAY ANYONE WILL START A FAITH AND EXPECT EVERYONE WHO IS A MEMBER TO REMAIN IN IT FOREVER. ASK SOL(PAUL) WHO WROTE THAT PASSAGE. HIMSELF WAS NOT IN THE FAITH BEFORE. HE DEPARTED FROM THE FAITH(JUDAISM) TO FORM HIS OWN FAITH. So Sol certainly have seen people departing and he also made what has happened in the past to predict what will happen in the future. Common sense.

Giving heed to seducing spirits= Since the spirit that is ministering to someone is different from the one ministering to the founder of a particular faith, that spirit is certainly a 'SEDUCING SPIRIT' by the definition of the old-cargo religious upholder undecided

And doctrines of devils= Any doctrine that is not founded by one religious founder is the DOCTRINE OF THE DEVIL to him. Little wonder to the Christian, it is only xtianity that is DOCTRINE OF GOD while all the other thousands of religions are doctrines of the devil, even though they borrowed all their dogmas from other religions: Easter(from Ishtar) , Christmas(from Mithras, Dionysus, Attis, Kris) Fasting(from Judaism, Zoroastrianism) etc.


So to you now, this passage is prophesying the future which is Now panning out in your eyes. Knoliud was right by saying that people will use the past happenings to predict the future(Urim). Instead of that passage saying, Now the spirit speaketh expressly that in the latter days, many shall invent something flying in the air(Aeroplane), to convey people from one place to another. And people shall no more have to speak to each other face to face, but those in Israel shall communicate with those in Egypt without seeing eye to eye(Thummim). Check your bible if something like this appeared there throughout. No single thummim in the Bible, all are just urims of fear.

Smh for yahweh, the poor begger undecided
Christianity Etc › Re: Only The Agents Of Satan Will Defend The Rationale Behind Hell Fire Creation by otemanuduno(op):
4everGod:
He that is in me is greater than he that is in you.
Dem no born he that tells you that he is in you well to withstand he that inspires me. Anyway, nobody is in me, unlike you who someone have to live inside you, or are you pregnant or somethinghuh

4evergod: You are being possessed by Demons assigned to Christianity to distort and destroy and mislead and lie
Why don't you use to hear word like this? Demons only possess religious people like you. Or have you ever seen your pastors casting demons out of non-church goers?(make I hear say there is anything like demons in this civilized word). Since the organ 'brain' was discovered, the word 'demon' was discarded by brain-users, but lower-thinkers will continue using it for any psychical or brainiacal manifestations.

[quote author=]You are known by many names but you are the fallen and the great Serpent. The one sent to deceive many. he it is that has possessed you. You no longer have the ability to deny which is why you are now confronting me and speaking the truth as confirmation to all i have said you are and you are doing.[/b]Your power remains inconsequential to that of the most High God whom i serve. [b]I await your visit tonight you vile lying demon from Hades[/quote]Olodo, I sabi you talkless of visiting you? Omo, me just woke up from sleep sef kon see this post. All the while in my sleep, I was playing football with Okocha inside my sleep, only me and Okocha on the football pitch o. Guess how the game went grin
Who get time for you undecided

[quote author=]Now the Spirit speaketh expressly, that in the latter times some shall depart from the faith, giving heed to seducing spirits, and doctrines of devils;" (1 Timothy 4:1)[/b]

I know you for who you are![/quote]Let me analyse that passage for you,

Many shall depart from the faith= everyone knows that THERE IS NO WAY ANYONE WILL START A FAITH AND EXPECT EVERYONE WHO IS A MEMBER TO REMAIN IN IT FOREVER. ASK SOL(PAUL) WHO WROTE THAT PASSAGE. HIMSELF WAS NOT IN THE FAITH BEFORE. HE DEPARTED FROM THE FAITH(JUDAISM) TO FORM HIS OWN FAITH. So Sol certainly have seen people departing and he also made what has happened in the past to predict what will happen in the future. Common sense.

Giving heed to seducing spirits= Since the spirit that is ministering to someone is different from the one ministering to the founder of a particular faith, that spirit is certainly a 'SEDUCING SPIRIT' by the definition of the old-cargo religious upholder undecided

And doctrines of devils= Any doctrine that is not founded by one religious founder is the DOCTRINE OF THE DEVIL to him. Little wonder to the Christian, it is only xtianity that is DOCTRINE OF GOD while all the other thousands of religions are doctrines of the devil, even though they borrowed all their dogmas from other religions: Easter(from Ishtar) , Christmas(from Mithras, Dionysus, Attis, Kris) Fasting(from Judaism, Zoroastrianism) etc.


So to you now, this passage is prophesying the future which is Now panning out in your eyes. Knoliud was right by saying that people will use the past happenings to predict the future(Urim). Instead of that passage saying, Now the spirit speaketh expressly that in the latter days, many shall invent something flying in the air(Aeroplane), to convey people from one place to another. And people shall no more have to speak to each other face to face, but those in Israel shall communicate with those in Egypt without seeing eye to eye(Thummim). Check your bible if something like this appeared there throughout. No single thummim in the Bible, all are just urims of fear.

Smh for yahweh, the poor begger undecided
Christianity Etc › Re: The Doctrine Of The Ufos by otemanuduno(op): 11:51pm On Aug 04, 2016
4everGod:
My belief forbids me to swear by anything. You know I speak the truth. So you are shocked that you are not unique? There have been many spirit scientists and Anthroposophists before you so you are not the first to encounter beings during Astral travels.

Occultism and spirit science are religions so your message of Brain brain was a rouse even to you. Everything you have been doing has been channelled towards indoctrination. From your doctufos to the recharge cards you have been sharing which you can only do by demanding that the interested parties display knowledge of the doctufos.

I know you because I have encountered many like you. The demon in you is a lying, demon whose very essense you embraced out of ignorance. I am not here to engage you but to tell you who I know you are. The one reading this is no longer you but the one resident in you. It knows I speak the truth and it is free to pay me a visit tonight.
Hypocrites, remember how your god(Faulkin/jesus) was indoctrinating the people with his sermons on the mount, feeding them with magic(stone turned to bread and fish). Same method I am using here to indoctrinate the people. Lol.
U are pointing accusing finger on a RABBI like me when your own dead Rabbis(Faulkin/jesus/Eusebius) also used the same method to make their ministry popular.


You have not seen anything. I AM CURRENTLY INVESTING MY MONIES. WHEN THEY BRING RETURNS, I WILL START DOING "OTEM SCHOLARSHIPS"
BY THEN YOU WILL CRY FOUL AND NO ONE WILL LISTEN TO YOU cheesy
LET ME LEAVE YOU WITH THE BOOK OF DANYAL TO ENJOY YOURSELF. YOUR RELIGION WILL SOON FOLD UP tongue
Christianity Etc › Re: Almighty God Did Not Create Hell Fire, Satan Did by otemanuduno(op): 11:37pm On Aug 04, 2016
JMAN05:
Can you post a biblical reference or what's ur source?
You want me to post a reference from the book of Satan called Bible? Impossible. The only thing I can post from there is the evidence that Yahweh is the same as Satan.
Christianity Etc › Re: Only The Agents Of Satan Will Defend The Rationale Behind Hell Fire Creation by otemanuduno(op): 11:29pm On Aug 04, 2016
man49men:
The man who open this post i guess he must be worshiping in synagogue or in Jewish Sabbath religion. is theology is gotten from free thinker and atheism. they are many atheist on the street today, who doesn't know much about hell let me enlighten you about hell. read below;

Hell fire is one of the most fearful and dreadful doctrines of the bible. Many preacher try as much as possible to avoid it or not to scare people about it. Some minister feel it is out of proportion to preach hell fire message in their churches that the people need the message of love and not the message that will make people feel uncomfortable. The imagination that one will burn in eternity forever and ever in hell fire, frighten so many church goer. Despite the love of Jesus for the world he still have place for disobedient children. Originally hell was prepare for the devil and his angel. But unfortunately men choose to be there despite the sacrifice on the cross to redeem them.
Jesus told us about the gravity of hell. That it is better to have your hand cut than allowing the body in hell. Hell is place of gnashing of teeth. Their worm die not neither is the fire quench it is a continuous burning. The horror of hell make many preacher to imagine whether the message of hell is a reality or story to make people believe the gospel. Cult group like Jehovah witness never agree with the bible truth rather they claim that hell is a grave.
The Greek word for hell is Gehenna or Hades, a place of continuous burning of fire. Another compartment of hell is Tartarus where disobedient angel are kept till they will be finally judge. It is also known as a bottomless pit. Jesus show that hell is a place of torment. Sinner will be confine in the compartment of hell after which they will be transfer to the lake of fire. The devil and the false prophet will later be transfer to the lake of fire.
it is better to believe the reality of hell because they will be punishment for sinner and backsliders who refuse to repent.

http://tryeveryspirit.com/bible-teaching/hell-fire/
Liar! Just like your god(yahweh).
So your great grandparents who didn't know Jesus are burning in hell right now abi? And they will burn there FOREVER AND EVER right? Keep it up guy, and clap for yourself.
Christianity Etc › Re: Only The Agents Of Satan Will Defend The Rationale Behind Hell Fire Creation by otemanuduno(op): 11:28pm On Aug 04, 2016
4everGod:
You speak of what tou do not know because the words are not yours but from the demonic essence which you have embraced.

Mysticism isnt new and you are not new or special either. Many other demonic beings have possessed people and made them declare themselves as gods same as you are declaring.

All you have in common is the same anti Jesus and anti Jehovah message and for others I met they got delivered from that demonic essence of Adramelech which is in you and speaks through you.

I know you for who you are. The deceiver...the fallen one.
I write what EARTUM reveals to me, same way all the evil scribes who wrote the Bible wrote what was ministered to them by yahweh or any spirit of those times.

If NEW AGE stuffs you mentioned are similar to what I am writing, it means EARTUM is indeed ministering similar things to them and indeed Religion shall soon be wiped out as I prophesied before. PRAISE DA LORD!!!
Christianity Etc › Re: The Doctrine Of The Ufos by otemanuduno(op):
LUABI
CHAPTER FIVE

1. Luwabi, the son of Akanbi, who is from the tribe of Akan has written many proverbs. For he has many scribes with him who helped him to write them.
2. Now one homo came to Luwabi and said, where do you get all these proverbs from? Then Luwabi said, every thing which happens in our land, I write them down and then draw out a moral lesson from them. Those moral lessons are the proverbs which you see.
3. Now Luwabi brought out the leaves upon which he had written many things. And in the first bundle of leaves, he had written about Ifayemi who was roasting a corn in his farm. And Ifayemi left the corn and began to hunt for grasshoppers.
4. Now when Ifayemi had ended up gathering many grasshoppers which he would roast for dinner, he discovered that he has gone far away from the corn which he was roasting in his farm.
5. Now when Ifayemi returned to the farm, the east wind had blown the fire upon the grasses in the farm and the whole farm had caught fire.
6. Now from the story of what happened to Ifayemi did Luwabi make up the proverb, saying, anyone who is roasting a corn in the farm should focus on the corn until it is done, because if he wanders away from the farm, both the corn and the farm would be lost forever.
7. And this did Luwabi apply to many aspects of life, saying, if someone is doing anything very sensitive, he should do it with great focus until it is complete. Else he shall lose concentration and gain nothing in the end.
8. Now in the second bundle of leaves, Luwabi wrote the story of Ajasin; now Ajasin was a priest of Ogun. And Ajasin was well-gifted in the making of tools from iron.
9. Now a time came when some homos came from a foreign land and brought with them a thing which can show the image of someone’s face(mirror).
10. Now, because Ajasin has never seen such thing before, he neglected the worship of Ogun his own god and followed after the strangers, asking them that he would do anything they wanted him to do if only they could teach him how to make it.
11. Now the strangers said, first of all, tell all the followers of your god to abandon their god and worship Eresh, our own god.
12. Now Ajasin did so and all his worshippers were gone within few moments. Then the homos gave Ajasin a mirror and he was happy. Now after about five years when Ajasin was tired of the mirror, he went back to all the homos whom he was a priest over, saying, return to the worshipping of Ogun, but they all said, Eresh the god of mirror and reflection is our god.
13. So Ajasin lost all his followers and went after Luwabi to seek counsel. Then Luwabi said, they showed you what they have made and you jumped for joy. Why did you not also show them what you have made by what you believe on?
14. Have they made hoes? Have they made traps to catch the grass-cutters? Can they make the korope? No they cannot, yet you sell your own knowledge so cheaply and abandoned what you can do to listen to them.
15. For every soul has knowledge of his own and no knowledge is superior to another.
16. For if you say that Luwabi does not know the knowledge of curing sicknesses with herbs and you judge me on that, then I will also say that you do not know the knowledge of using words of the lips to cure people’s problems of fear and worry.
17. So I tell you, the knowledge you already have are not to be thrown away because of the knowledge from foreign lands which looks better. For if you develop your own knowledge, you shall do more exploits than them.
18. I Luwabi use no herbs and make no incantations, yet I am always healthy because I know how to think. So Ajasin, value the knowledge you have, even though it looks like a rag to you when another knowledge arrives from foreign land, appearing like a robe.
19. In the third leaves, the thing was arranged in the form of aroko(signs and symbols). And Luwabi said, it is the story of a homo who had a bad habit. But when she was about to get married, she hid her bad habits and after her marriage, she revealed them again.
20. Then her husband was angry with her because she did not talk about that habit or manifest it during her courtship. Now her bad habit was that she cannot do without hissing, even when nothing serious was happening.
21. Now I Luwabi told her, saying, even if you were trying to keep the habit away from your spouse, try to let him know that you have the habit. You can tell him in the form of a joke and he would take it as a joke, but already you have told him. And he will be the one asking you every day you meet, saying, Agboyin, did you not say that you have bad habits? But why have I not seen you hissing since we began this courtship?
22. Then you will reply, my lover, I am trying hard to stop it, that is why. Then that would not be a problem in the future after marriage because he knows that you have that habit, which you do for no reason.
23. So from this did Luwabi bring out the proverb, saying, be clear like the oje(white water) of a botuje leaf.
24. Now in the fourth bundle of leaves did Luwabi write the story of a virgin who was very beautiful. And three men asked her hands in marriage. And the first said, I love you so much Fafunke.
25. I shall marry you, no matter what. Now Fafunke was wise. And she thought to test the three homos to know which one she would agree to take as a husband.
26. Now Fafunke said, some olosa(thieves) came to my my house and defiled me last year. So I am not a virgin again.
27. When the three heard it, two said they will go ahead to marry her, even though she had lost the treasure in her.
28. But one left her and did not return again.
29. Now when the two came again, Fafunke said, the defilement by the olosa has resulted into a baby.
30. Now when Adisa heard it, he left to his house, saying, I cannot take care of a baby. But Fafunke said, if we marry and I give birth, will you not take care of it?
31. Now Amoo came and saw Fafunke in tears. Then Amoo said, why are you shedding tears my lover? Then Fafunke said, because I told Adisa that I have a baby for the thief, Adisa left me and cursed me.
32. Now Amoo said, do you have a baby for the thieves? Then Fafunke said, let me bring it for you to see for yourself. So Fafunke went in to bring a twig she had wrapped in many clothes.
33. And when she came, she did not see Amoo outside anymore. Now Amoo told Ajayi his friend what has happened to Fafunke. And Ajayi said, you did not want to marry her because she was raped? What if it happened when you are already husbands and wives?
34. Then Amoo said, if it happens then I will send her back to her father’s house. Because I cannot bear to live with someone who has been raped.
35. Then Ajayi said, what if the wife you marry suddenly become lame, will you send her packing? Then Amoo said, I will surely send her packing. I cannot be the husband of a lame woman.
36. Then Ajayi said, if that is so, then you cannot be a good husband.
37. Now Ajayi went to woo Fafunke herself. And she said, Ajayi, I have a baby for some thieves who came to rape me last year. Then Ajayi said, Fafunke, I love you.
38. The suku of your head is like the handle of a royal horsetail. Let me be a father to that child.
39. Then Fafunke said, it is a girl. But Ajayi said, whether it is a girl or not, bring it. I shall care for it like my baby. And no one shall know that it is the child of a thief. If you do not tell the child and I do not tell the child, which unfortunate being will tell the child whom she is?
40. Then Fafunke said, what if I do not have any child for you? Will you not tell the child by yourself and send us packing? Then Ajayi said, is it you I love or the child I am expecting you to have for me?
41. No, it is you I love and not the child whom I do not even know if Olodumare Oba ajiki will grant us. And if you have no baby, we will take care of the one we have with us and believe the proverb of our land that says that, the head of another man’s child will bring about the arrival of our own child.
42. Then Fafunke said, what if your family forces you to marry another wife over me? Then Ajayi said, I shall not hear them if both of us have agreed at the beginning that we shall not raise a polygamous family.
43. Now when Fafunke prolonged the matter, Ajayi said, I can no longer wait to see the face of our child. Go inside and fetch it. Then Fafunke smiled and said, I have never felt so loved before by anyone. And I have never loved any man in my life, except Amoo and Adisa. But they have both left me because of what they hear from my mouth.
44. Then Fafunke went inside and fetched the baby. But when Ajayi unfolded it, he found a twig and not a baby. Then Fafunke said, I was only testing the three men, but they have failed.
45. Now when Ajayi took the thing to Amoo and called it the baby of Fafunke, he was surprised. And he came to beg Fafunke but she did not accept her back.
46. So also did Adisa when he heard it, but Fafunke rejected him also. And she married Ajayi, the homo who was ready to see the baby before she would believe the story, because Ajayi knew by thinking deep that Fafunke was only testing the three homos.
47. Now from the story of Fafunke and her suitors did Luwabi fetch the proverb which says, he who searches for a big slice of yam should get to the bottom of the pot. But he who stops half-way shall not know the root of the matter.
Christianity Etc › Re: The Doctrine Of The Ufos by otemanuduno(op): 9:57pm On Aug 04, 2016
LUABI
CHAPTER FOUR

1. Every homo has his own eleda, but the ultimate eleda of the children of Odua is Olodumare, the king that is worthy of praise and adoration.
2. No matter how you throw a stone up, it will come down to the ground again. And no matter how you throw a handfan, it will lie on its flat side.
3. So is everyone who forgets his source and go after foreigners. For in the end he shall return to his source.
4. Water and blood are like eko and olele, therefore take enough water to purify your blood.
5. Be wise like a tortoise.
6. When a wise man speaks, the people keep silent and listen, but when a foolish person talks, the people laughs at him.
7. The teeth of an elder knows how to break the kolanut, but the teeth of a child lacks experience.
8. Do not destroy the joy of others. Be happy when others are happy.
9. Ask a friend about his plans for the future. Then help him with making the plans.
10. The game of ayo is the joy of the players. A calabash of wine beside the players will make the joy full.
11. He who runs after shadows shall catch nothing, for shadow itself is nothing.
12. Without light, there can never be shadows. So shall nothing be called good without evil.
13. A long neck does not make a wise homo.
14. The beauty of a face is not the beauty of an intention.
15. Run away from those who gossips all the time, or else the world will hear about you in a bad light if you interact with the gossips all day.
16. Jest when it is time to jest and frown when it is time to frown. For if you frown always without jesting, you are calling for irreversible problems.
17. The world is not exactly as you see it in the physical. The spiritual part of life is even more complicated.
18. Life is too complex to be understood all at once.
19. Life is rigid for those who makes it rigid for themselves. It is simple for those who makes it simple for themselves.
Christianity Etc › Re: The Doctrine Of The Ufos by otemanuduno(op): 9:50pm On Aug 04, 2016
4everGod:
Somehow I sense that even he has been so deceived that he does not realise that he is into occultism.

Spirit science is New Age teachings and Oprah Winfrey is in that league.
Occultism?
Can you swear on your life that I am into occultism? Okay let me help you out, may the name of yahweh be ridiculed and made a laughingstock by many if indeed I am saying the truth.
But if indeed yahweh(satan) is the creator of the Universe as he claimed, may I die before the completion of this DOCTUFOS of TRUTH.

Can you do this kind of thing I just did to show you how sure I am? Are you sure yahweh your god isn't evil and the devil himself?
Christianity Etc › Re: The Doctrine Of The Ufos by otemanuduno(op): 9:43pm On Aug 04, 2016
KingEbukasBlog:
I have seen other Nairalanders too who are exponents of the New Age teachings .

Here is one
Pls tell me more about this New Age. Sounds like you guys are so serious about it. If the New Age thing is real as you said, maybe it's confirming the prophecy of Knoliud that by 2625, Religion will be infinitesimal because of the level of literacy and wisdom by then.

4everGod, IS NEW AGE REAL? IF SO I HAD BETTER CHECK IT OUT AND SEE WHAT IT IS ALL ABOUT. more so I heard you saying something that Demons are in that New Age. Are you FOR REAL? DO YOU STILL BELIEVE THE EXISTENCE OF DEMONS IN THIS WORLD THAT IS SO CIVILLIZED? NA WA O undecided
Have you ever asked yourself, the demons the pastors has ever claimed to cast away, why are they church members and not atheists or Muslims or those who don't believe in demonic possessions? The answer is that THE DELUDED BRAINSVOF SOME PEOPLE MAKE THEM BEHAVE LIKE MAD PEOPLE(ALWAYS COMMON AMONG THE CHRISTIANS) AND IGNORANT PEOPLE CALL THAT DEMONIC POSSESSIONS.

back to the NEW AGE thing. I will check it out and if it makes sense, I will not desist from learning one or two things from them.

BUT KNOW THIS, EVERY NEW THING ALWAYS APPEAR EVIL AND DEMONIC TO THE OLD-FASHIONED PEOPLE. E.G FAULKIN(jesus) was accused of possessing demonic powers while he was bringing the revelation of his god to the earth. Zoroash(Zoroaster) and Moh Ahmad(Mohammed) were all accused of being demon-possessed when they were bringing the ministration of their selfish gods to life.

Sol(Paul the apostle) was also accused by Festus of being mad(demon possessed) Acts 26:24.

So whenever I hear things like this, I feel happy that I AM ON THE TRACK AND THE DOCTUFOS IS HERE TO STAY.

GOD BLESS YOU.
Christianity Etc › Re: Only The Agents Of Satan Will Defend The Rationale Behind Hell Fire Creation by otemanuduno(op): 9:24pm On Aug 04, 2016
orisa37:
You don't know anything.
Admitted, but at least the little I know is far more than what Yahweh knows in his lifetimes.
Christianity Etc › Re: Only The Agents Of Satan Will Defend The Rationale Behind Hell Fire Creation by otemanuduno(op): 9:22pm On Aug 04, 2016
4everGod:
So you have no idea that spirit science and New age are interwoven? This confirms your confusions. I think you need to do some research on what I just intimated you on and look for another title to give yourself. Definitely not "scientist".
Na wa o! What concerns me with Spirit science or New Age? So because I said I don't know what they are about and I don't care to know, that makes me confused? It's like asking One's father, daddy, do you know that you resemble Gbonka, one of the Alambadahs. Then daddy says, I don't know Gbonka, not to talk of the Alambadah. Then you arrive at a confusion that DADDY THIS CONFIRMS THAT YOU ARE CONFUSED.

U ARE THE ONE WHO MENTIONED SPIRIT SCIENCE AND NEW AGERS, AND MY RESPONSE IS THAT I HAVE NO IDEA OF BOTH. THEN YOU CONCLUDED, "IT CONFIRMS I AM CONFUSED." undecided

A neutral reader will know who is truly confused by following our posts.
Christianity Etc › Re: Only The Agents Of Satan Will Defend The Rationale Behind Hell Fire Creation by otemanuduno(op): 5:57pm On Aug 04, 2016
4everGod:
You are obviously confused and mixing True science with Spirit science which is all about the New Age movement. You are no scientist but a New ager.

Spirit science is not science!
A New ager? What does that mean and what are their goals? Hope they are not coming to lie to us again that THE WORLD WILL SOON COME TO AN END huh If so, they should better leave the world for us to let us continue life o(because all this 'world will come to an end soon' nonsense is actually causing confusion already in the world.

So guy, tell me, what did this NEW AGE PEOPLE want to come and do joor maybe it's something reasonable or the usual religious nonsensehuh
Christianity Etc › Re: Only The Agents Of Satan Will Defend The Rationale Behind Hell Fire Creation by otemanuduno(op): 5:39pm On Aug 04, 2016
4everGod:
So if you were a scientist "by mouth" and yet you say your God is the God of scientists "bonafide" isnt it foolishness for him to want to deliver his message through you and not through bonafide scientists?

There is a difference between believing in science and being a scientist. Plus you say Jehovah is a fraud yet the Bible documents all of His creation which scientists (both Christian and not) have been discovering to the extent they had to say that science compliments creation.

There is obviously a fundamental error in the message you declare.
I said I WAS A SCIENTIST BY MOUTH before EARTUM called me in JANUARY 2016. NOW I AM A SCIENTIST WHO HAVE DISCOVERED MANY THINGS. TRY THE THREE ABOVE WITH ANY ADULT MALE HAVING NIGHTMARE PROBLEMS OR BEDWETTING AND CALL ME A LIAR IF IT DOESN'T WORK FOR THE PERSON.
Christianity Etc › Re: Only The Agents Of Satan Will Defend The Rationale Behind Hell Fire Creation by otemanuduno(op): 5:20pm On Aug 04, 2016
4everGod:
Are you a scientist?
I was a scientist by mouth before until EARTUM began to reveal to me that GOD IS INDEED IN SCIENCE AND I SHOULD TAKE IT SERIOUSLY.

Within few weeks that I started looking at things critically, thinking deeply, I have discovered two things:

1. You can make good dreams for yourself to replace nightmares if you always think deep into your sleeps. Think good thoughts deep into your sleep.
2. Most of the dreams you see in your dreams are made by your thoughts in the day. IF YOU WANT TO KNOW, CHECK THIS OUT!! FOR A CHRISTIAN WHO SEES PEOPLE FIGHTING HIM IN DREAMS AND OVERCOMING BY SAYING 'JESUS'! HE SAID SO BECAUSE HE THINKS WHILE AWAKE THAT JESUS IS THE ONLY ONE WHO CAN SAVE HIM.
Now if that person converts to Islam and dream that same nightmare, he will see himself winning dreams by reciting the QURAN.
I have tried it on someone and on myself. On myself, when I BELIEVE THAT OUR NAMES CAN DO ANYTHING, IRRESPECTIVE OF WHO YOU ARE, I SAW MYSELF IN DREAMS WHERE I USED MY NAME TO CONQUER THE AGENTS OF yahweh. They fled like they were being chased. A neighbour also did it and overcame.

3. Third discovery is that 'ERECTI*ON' CAN PREVENT bed-wetting for an adult who betwets. This has been tried on two teens I know. For now they have to masturbate before they go to bed. Then during their sleep, they will have erection which will prevent urine from coming out.
MY SUGGESTION TO SCIENCE IN THE FUTURE IS TO MAKE A CREAM THAT CAN CAUSE ERECTIONS DURING SLEEP. SO WHEN A MALE BEDWETTER USES IT, HIS MANHOOD WILL EXPERIENCE THIS AND WILL PREVENT BEDWETTING.

I LOVE GOD SO MUCH FOR HELPING ME GET ANSWERS TO PROBLEMS THROUGH THE USE OF MY BRAIN.
Christianity Etc › Re: Only The Agents Of Satan Will Defend The Rationale Behind Hell Fire Creation by otemanuduno(op): 5:00pm On Aug 04, 2016
Muafrika2:
Is this what you did in your church days? undecided

But am sure there are people here who can relate ( the "I used to be a pastor but now am an atheist crew". ) That's why I call it sieving.

The church will be taken seriously once we get rid of all tongue talking masqueraders jumping up and down and soiling our good intentions.
Speaking in tongues is the only achievable Christian feats, but even anybody can do that, especially babies, or don't you know that babies' babbles sound like SPEAKING IN TONGUES cheesy
Christianity Etc › Re: Folayan Osekita Shades Adeboye: Praises Wife 'Who Can't Pray 2hrs Nonstop' by otemanuduno: 4:46pm On Aug 04, 2016
Towncrier247:
The former prophet reacted to what RCCG General Overseer, Pastor Adeboye said about marriage. According to Prophet Osekita, his wife pictured above doesn't pray for 2 hours nonstop, he is a pastor who is a bearded man and lost his job immediately after marriage but says they are just a few day from celebrating their 29th anniversary. I guess everyone's story is different!


http://www.newseveryhour.com/2016/08/nigerian-pastor-shades-pastor-adeboye.html
Muafrika2, MrZenographer, 4evergod, Naijadeyhia, Goddys and Kingebukasblog come and see confusion in the body of christ(crises) cheesy
Christianity Etc › Re: Only The Agents Of Satan Will Defend The Rationale Behind Hell Fire Creation by otemanuduno(op): 4:38pm On Aug 04, 2016
4everGod:
Can I ask you a question?
Always free to do so.
Christianity Etc › Re: Only The Agents Of Satan Will Defend The Rationale Behind Hell Fire Creation by otemanuduno(op): 4:32pm On Aug 04, 2016
Muafrika2:
I've already answered this question before.

Your gods, their gods, and all kinds of devils are subject to the one true God, the all powerful creator of heavens and it's host and the earth and it's host.

By "subject" I mean in service. Servant hood. At his bidding, and subjected to His will. That's why when one of those devils approached David with a deceptive suggestion, he was his Master's (God's) hand.

There is no devil beyond the control of Jehovah. And all other gods/devils are his hand. That's why all things evil, they may be, always turn out for the Good of God's children. You, for example, are God's hand full of the spirit of deception with a very good purpose. It could even be the same guy that dealt with David grin The purpose is to cause a falling away through your deception. You are like a sieve, cleansing the church and what you don't know, is that you are separating those with strong foundations from those with no foundation. A worthwhile cause, that needed the devil in execution. cheesy . God's hand.
Muafrika2, u are just telling lie to protect the unedited error made by the scribes of Satan. Satan is your god. Accept it and continue to worship him. But I wish the light of GOD ALMIGHTY will shine upon your brain one day and make you reason directly from it and not from a book written by Satan the greatest Murderer of all time. Haven't you checked the Bible how many people satan(Yahweh) under the disguise of the name God killed lots of people himself? Anyway, one day you will know after trying to manifest all the powers he promised you and you fail woefully. Then your eyes will open to know that AMONG ALL THE GREAT THINGS HE SAID YOU WILL BE ABLE TO DO: LIKE HEALING THE LAME, BLIND, CURING CANCER, HIV, etc THE ONLY ONE YOU CAN DO IS SPEAKING IN TONGUE, WHICH I CAN ALSO DO AND ANYONE CAN DO IT BY RELEASING HIMSELF TO JUST PRONOUNCE ANYTHING THAT COMES TO MIND. cheesy
Christianity Etc › Re: The Doctrine Of The Ufos by otemanuduno(op): 3:02pm On Aug 04, 2016
KingEbukasBlog:
Every religion is dogmatic
True, but this is not Religion, because Religion asks you to worship a particular god, but this says USE YOUR BRAIN AND DO GOOD.
Religions promises reward after death, or for good morals like WHEN YOU GIVE YOU WILL RECEIVE, but this says it as it is: JUST GIVE AND EXPECT NO REWARD. THERE IS NO LAW IN REALITY THAT MAKES YOU RECIEVE IF YOU GIVE.
Christianity Etc › Re: Almighty God Did Not Create Hell Fire, Satan Did by otemanuduno(op): 2:55pm On Aug 04, 2016
Anas09:
Go back to your meds•Stop mentioning me.
I only do Meditations in the evenings because of busy schedules. What about you? When do you have your Meds?
Christianity Etc › Re: Only The Agents Of Satan Will Defend The Rationale Behind Hell Fire Creation by otemanuduno(op): 2:51pm On Aug 04, 2016
M17CXi:
I guess when u come back
You forget you lived here on earth before right!?

And if not, there is no great number of people who are saying they were reincarnated
As to the (billion+) number of people that have passed on since the beginning of time

So what do u say about that??
Are they lost, or went to their creator
Which is the one true God ' that commander us to obey na believe in Him
Instead of the whisperer
If you are reincarnated, you can't know because you are not reincarnated to the same world where you left in most cases, but to a new world. U can't imagine that some of the dead people of the homo erectuses and homo habilis whose world ended about twenty thousand years ago are actually living with us now in our own world which began 20,000 years ago, yet they didn't know that they were reincarnated except when they themselves start to dabble into spirituality individually through meditation.
Christianity Etc › Re: Only The Agents Of Satan Will Defend The Rationale Behind Hell Fire Creation by otemanuduno(op): 2:13pm On Aug 04, 2016
M17CXi:
So now lets say
At the end of the day (end time)
Were will u go to
I'll go here: http://www.near-death.com/reincarnation/experiences/mellen-thomas-benedict.html
The VALLEY OF THE SHADOW OF DEATH, from where I would be reincarnated to either the Chumorld or the Clumoid or back to earth.
Christianity Etc › Re: Only The Agents Of Satan Will Defend The Rationale Behind Hell Fire Creation by otemanuduno(op): 2:04pm On Aug 04, 2016
M17CXi:
U mean u serve satan as at now!?
Or God!

Cus u saying two things here
Yahweh is Satan and I have actually spent 29 and half years of my life serving him. But Eartum, a brother to Yahweh came to me and revealed the truth about the universe to me.

God= God



Yahweh=Satan
Eartum=Atum
Vishinus= Vishnu
Enlil
Enki
Gaol
Olorun
Oghene
Eshu
Mercury
Jupiter

ALl these names I mentioned are the Sons of GOD who presented themselves as ALMIGHTY GOD but are not. Now Eartum, one of the brothers of JEHOVAH(YAHWEH/SATAN) is the one who ministers the truth to me and yahweh his brother cannot stop ME.
Christianity Etc › Re: Only The Agents Of Satan Will Defend The Rationale Behind Hell Fire Creation by otemanuduno(op): 1:56pm On Aug 04, 2016
orisa37:
You're just speaking grammar. However, your assertion will be right if you fully know who SATAN is.
Have you checked your bible where the identity of yahweh was revealed as SATAN? READ THE TWO CHAPTERS OF THE BIBLE NOW; BOTH OF THEM ARE RELATING THE SAME STORY. NOW WHEN YOU ARE DONE, PLS ANSWER THIS QUESTION:

who actually instigated DAVID to number Israel?

[quote author= ]Again the anger of the Lord was aroused against Israel, and He moved David against them to say, “Go, number Israel and Judah.” (2 Samuel 24:1)

Now Satan stood up against Israel, and moved David to number Israel. (1 Chronicles 21:1)[/quote]
Christianity Etc › Re: Only The Agents Of Satan Will Defend The Rationale Behind Hell Fire Creation by otemanuduno(op):
Muafrika2:
The fire is for you not us.
Here is a test to know that the fire is for you and not us.

100% of people who have been shown the revelation of Hell fire are Christians.
Atheists who died and returned to life only confessed that they saw afterlife(and not hell fire)
Buddhists and Hindus who died and returned to earth testified of seeing Buddha and Krishna and not hell fire.
Brain-users who has even died and got their cancers cured after death(Anita Moorjani and Mellen Thomas) who died without religion came back to the world to declare that there is indeed a GOD who made the universe through the BIG BANG and he did not make any hell fire. And they testified that ALL RELIGIONS ARE FORMED BY THE IDEA OF SOME OTHERS WHO CAME BEFORE US. AND WHATEVER THEY WISHED FOR THE AFTERLIFE OF THEIR FOLLOWERS SHALL BE FOR THEM EVENTUALLY.

FOR CHRISTIANS, your bible has assured you that MANY THERE BE THAT SHALL MAKE IT TO HELL FIRE. SO GET READY TO BE WITH YOUR LORD IN HELL EXCEPT YOU REPENT BY USING YOUR BRAIN, BECAUSE WHATEVER god you worship while on earth will have control over your soul after death.
Christianity Etc › Re: The Doctrine Of The Ufos by otemanuduno(op): 1:45pm On Aug 04, 2016
4kings:
Otem, did u create this doctrine or does it actually exist?
I am being ministered to by one who said he is EARTUM(ATUM), a brother of Jehovah. He assured me that they all existed just as he is ministering them to me.

Then in March, I was attacked by the writer of the NEW TESTAMENT part of the Bible whose name is EUSEBIUS(the one who made the NEW TESTAMENT doctrine of the Bible appear real) in our own world. The attack of EUSEBIUS gave me the assurance that I AM INDEED ON TRACK because he shouldn't have attacked me if indeed I AM NOT ON COURSE.


So, I have pledged my whole life to make the TRUTH known to the world till even the point of death; and no god(not even Yahweh) can stop ME from telling it as it is.
Christianity Etc › Re: Only The Agents Of Satan Will Defend The Rationale Behind Hell Fire Creation by otemanuduno(op): 1:39pm On Aug 04, 2016
M17CXi:
Do u believe there is a God or not??
Not just that I believe, but I KNOW.
All my life has been directed towards knowing whom God really is, even while I was serving Yahweh(Satan). And I was not disappointed, because the knowledge of the true making of the UNIVERSE began to unfold before me and I say SURELY, GOD IS LOVE, WITH NO HATRED AT ALL WITH HIM.

Check the Doctufos given to me by Eartum a son of GOD.
Christianity Etc › Re: Only The Agents Of Satan Will Defend The Rationale Behind Hell Fire Creation by otemanuduno(op): 1:07pm On Aug 04, 2016
M17CXi:
But satan/ yahweh
Did not create the HF

It is inly the followers of the so called yahweh that God created the HF for
Thats my point
It's no new thing. Check the evidence that Yahweh is Satan in your bible:

Again the anger of the Lord was aroused against Israel, and He moved David against them to say, “Go, number Israel and Judah.” (2 Samuel 24:1)

Now Satan stood up against Israel, and moved David to number Israel. (1 Chronicles 21:1)

The two accounts are the same story, but in the Bible. One mentioned the name of Yahweh as the person who motivated David to number Israel while the other mentioned the name of Satan. However, the two chapters are actually writing the truth. THE LORD OF DAVID(Yahweh) is the same as SATAN.
Christianity Etc › Re: Only The Agents Of Satan Will Defend The Rationale Behind Hell Fire Creation by otemanuduno(op): 1:02pm On Aug 04, 2016
M17CXi:
What d h*ll are you talking about
Satan creating hell fire!!?

Satan create hell fire!
So u can also say THIEVES CREATED/build police stations abi?
Lol
Go read the holy books again pls!!!!!!!!!!!

God created hell fire ook,

Just like how law enforcement created prisons for wrong doer
Satan is the one using the name God to control the world. And his books are the so-called Holy Books. Even in the Bible, his through identity as Satan was revealed, but people feared to challenge him.

God Almighty who made the content of the universe made it through the BIG BANG billions of years ago. He didn't demand worship from anyone. He is the one who made yahweh(satan) and many other children of his, who are fighting for power through RELIGION till today.


God is not in religion, but in THE USE OF THE BRAINS AND MAKING OF INVENTIONS.
YOU WILL BEAR WITH ME THAT SCIENTISTS ARE MORE RIGHTEOUS THAN PASTORS. THEY ARE THE TRUE RIGHTEOUS PEOPLE(BRAIN USERS), NOT THE PASTORS WHO ONLY GATHER CROWDS AND COLLECTS THEIR MONIES. undecided

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