Thank you wordtalk

On wordtalk's both accounts,

Dont bother if you are warped minded

Luke 18: 9-14

9 And he made this story for some people who were certain that they were good, and had a low opinion of others:
10 Two men went up to the Temple for prayer; one a Pharisee, and the other a tax-farmer.
11 The Pharisee, taking up his position, said to himself these words: God, I give you praise because I am not like other men, who take more than their right, who are evil-doers, who are untrue to their wives, or even like this tax-farmer.
12 Twice in the week I go without food; I give a tenth of all I have.
13 The tax-farmer, on the other hand, keeping far away, and not lifting up even his eyes to heaven, made signs of grief and said, God, have mercy on me, a sinner.
14 I say to you, This man went back to his house with God's approval, and not the other: for everyone who makes himself high will be made low and whoever makes himself low will be made high.


Dont bother, if motives are iffy

Matt 6:2
So when you give to the needy, do not announce it with trumpets, as the hypocrites do in the synagogues and on the streets, to be honored by men. I tell you the truth, they have received their reward in full

Dont bother, if coerced or bullied

2 Corinthians 9:7

Each man should give what he has decided in his heart to give, not reluctantly or under compulsion, for God loves a cheerful giver

There a lot of good articles over the place about tithing and each making some great points. How about another spin on the subject of tithing, asking three reasons why you shouldn’t tithe.

Pictures Of UN Office Bomb Blast In Abuja today 26 08 2011
https://www.nairaland.com/nigeria/topic-745085.0.html#msg9011370



http://uk.news.yahoo.com/video/reutersworldnews-1695328/blast-at-un-building-in-nigeria-26430768.html

and pfft, here is gallivanting to the Middle East whilst backyard is in piece(s)

2009 - Adeboye Prays At UN Headquarters
https://www.nairaland.com/nigeria/topic-322690.0.html

2011 - Pastor Adeboye (the GO) At UN, Charts Path To Peace In Middle East 
https://www.nairaland.com/nigeria/topic-734909.0.html

http://www.vbs.tv/en-gb/watch/the-vice-guide-to-travel/the-vice-guide-to-liberia


You can skip the gory bits and start watching from 31:00 but note at 32.39 that he is singing a yoruba gospel song

Heard he and Taylor were at one time given asylum in Naija by OBJ
What is that at 16:14 that Nigerians were bringing into the country
42:40 would put you off buying and eating cooked meat off the streets in naija

Baraac:

Adeboye at UN, charts path to peace in Middle East .

Culled from The Guardian of 22/06/11

PEACE in the Middle East would remain a mirage without God’s involvement, as all involved in the process must get down
on their knees to pray and cryPastor Adeboye out in supplication to the Creator of the Universe, General Overseer, Redeemed Christian Church of God, Pastor Enoch Adeboye, has said.

Adeboye stated this on Monday when he opened a “Global Summit on The Road Map to a Culture of Peace in the Middle East” at the United Nations (UN).

Under the auspices of the Inter-parliamentary Coalition for Global Ethics, the summit was sponsored by King Mohammed VI of Morocco, and the Fundacion Cultural de Paz, while the Mission of Bosnia & Herzegovina to the United Nations and Pastor Adeboye were the co-hosts.

toba:

SMDH at this response once again. So we should not try to broker peace in the world any longer right? Wow this is interesting. What kind of bible do u read?

4good:

@ Overhaul
I pray that we know God more than we all presently do. Then we will be more careful how we comment on people putting their faith to work. Luke 1:37. To him that believes ALL things are possible  Mark 9:23. I have learnt that our God is a DYNAMIC God (There is no searching of His understanding Isa 40:28). You've got to be open-minded in order to get the very best of Him. He can chose to do completely different from what you are used to - ALL TO HIS GLORY. There is no limit to what He can, and will do, whether written or unwritten. That is why HE IS THE CALLED THE SOVEREIGN GOD. If Jacob name could be changed, Dry bones could live again, the red sea could part, then _____,  Check out what God said to Sarah in Gen 18:14, Remember how God refused to destroy the people of Nineve contrary to the prediction and expectation of His servant - Jonah according to God's earlier instructions. All I'm saying is WITH GOD ALL THINGS ARE POSSIBLE. THAT'S WHY HE IS GOD.

@toba @4good

Money sure dulls senses. Kerching! Money, money changeth hand? Loadsamoney?

Do not live in a chalk and cheese paradise. The intermediary is The Prince of Peace. The system or the world is whacked there will be no sustainable peace in the Middle East or on earth for that matter until Jesus returns. However those that have made peace with God have no cause to fear because though a thousand falls at their side, though ten thousand are dying around them, these evils will not touch them.

Jeremiah 23:32
I'm against those who prophesy dreams they made up," declares the LORD.
"They tell the dreams they made up and lead my people astray with their lies and their wild talk.
I didn't send them or command them to go.
They don't help these people at all," declares the LORD.


"What's The Colour Of Money" by Hollywood Beyond

Dull my senses
Steal my pride
Principles denied

Passion faked and sold to the anthem green and gold.
Colour of the virtue by working like a slave

More precious than life? itself

What's the colour tempting fate?

What's the colour of money
What's the colour of money?
Don't tell me that you think it's green,
me I know it's red.

What's the colour of money
What's the colour of money?
Don't tell me that you think it's green,
me I know it's red!

Dull my senses
Steal my pride
Principles denied

Passion faked and sold to the anthem green and gold.
What was a useful tool
has taken our control?

It takes away your hearts and wraps it up around your soul.
What's the colour of money
what's the colour of money? . . .

What's the colour of money
What's the colour of money?
I know it's red
I know it's red!

Dull my senses
Steal my pride
Principles denied

Passion faked and sold to the anthem green and gold.
Colour of the virtue by working like a slave

More precious than life itself
Familiarity breeds contempt.
What's the colour of money
What's the colour of money? . . .
What's the colour of money?

Baraac:

Adeboye at UN, charts path to peace in Middle East .

Culled from The Guardian of 22/06/11

PEACE in the Middle East would remain a mirage without God’s involvement, as all involved in the process must get down
on their knees to pray and cryPastor Adeboye out in supplication to the Creator of the Universe, General Overseer, Redeemed Christian Church of God, Pastor Enoch Adeboye, has said.

Adeboye stated this on Monday when he opened a “Global Summit on The Road Map to a Culture of Peace in the Middle East” at the United Nations (UN).

The summit, co-chaired by the prominent Nigerian cleric, was attended by religious leaders from different faiths from around the world and aimed to develop a model road map agreement for the Middle East with the intention to succeed where politicians and other world leaders have so far failed.

Explaining the need for prayers on the Mid East crisis, Adeboye said in his opening speech: “All human efforts without the backing of the Almighty God will end in failure. These are tasks beyond human abilities to accomplish, that is why you, highly esteemed religious leaders who believe in the efficacy of prayers, must come together in prayers and supplication.”

According to the cleric, God’s intervention is the only way to have peace in the Middle East “in our own time and in the time of generations yet unborn.”

Adeboye stated: “We have gathered here for the first time, senior religious leaders of the Abrahamic faiths, academic leaders and parliamentarians, to try and implement a partnership and plan of action to create a global resource to cope with these issues and to inspire the future generation to promote peace and universal values.”

The General Overseer of the RCCG worldwide was joined by several other global religious leaders, including the Grand Mufti of Bosnia Herzegovina, Dr. Mustafa Ceric, the Grand Rabbi of Geneva Rabbi Dayan, and prominent Islamic leaders from Arab countries like the United Arab Emirates (UAE), Turkey, Pakistan etc.

Also at the summit were Nigerian Deputy Permanent Representative to the UN, Ambassador Raff Bukun-Onemola, Prof. Joseph Cumming, a Yale Professor of Faith and Culture, Adeboye’s wife, Pastor Folu, Vice Chancellor, Redeemers University for Nations (RUN), Prof. Oyewale Tomori and the leader of the RCCG in North America, Pastor James Fadele, among others.

Under the auspices of the Inter-parliamentary Coalition for Global Ethics, the summit was sponsored by King Mohammed VI of Morocco, and the Fundacion Cultural de Paz, while the Mission of Bosnia & Herzegovina to the United Nations and Pastor Adeboye were the co-hosts.

toba:

I wouldnt be suprised at all if all turns out well at the end. PASTOR EA Adeboye carrys in him the full embodiments of the Spirit and power of God. I doubt if any man of God controls  such a crowd similar to what i saw at the Holy ghost convention camp ground last night. The Executive gov of Ogun state Sen Ibikunle Amosu, whos a muslim can on stage to testify to the power of God being manifested in Papa Adeboye and through him. Bishop Oyedepo himself cant hide his feelings in the expression of Joy.

After the death of my pastor, Papa adeboye is one of few i listen more often these days

@OP@^
SMH
Delusion of grandeur and false hope. The Middle East is a perpetual war zone and there will not be peace there or elsewhere on earth until Jesus comes back

2 Timothy 4:3-4
3For the time will come when men will not put up with sound doctrine. Instead, to suit their own desires, they will gather around them a great number of teachers to say what their itching ears want to hear
4They will turn their ears away from the truth and turn aside to myths

1 Thessalonians 5:1-3
1Now, brothers, about times and dates we do not need to write to you,
2for you know very well that the day of the Lord will come like a thief in the night.
3While people are saying, "Peace and safety," destruction will come on them suddenly, as labor pains on a pregnant woman, and they will not escape.

mabell:

God is the self existing One
He has no beginning nor an end
He existed by Himself

He has no beginning nor an end. Really? Do you want to rewind, scratch that and then say it differently.

mabell:

Yesterday a young boy asked a question and it goes like this
WHATS THE ORIGIN OF GOD?
Dear nairalanders, i throw this question to you today
Whats the origin of God?

wordtalk, make that two, because am curious too to know what answers were given to him after he asked the question

Sweetnecta:

@Overhaul: « #21 on: Today at 10:01:11 PM »Start with the accusation of Jeremiah on the Scribes and their lying pen.

The go to www.leveltruth.com

Thank you but no thank you. I'll pass the accusation of Jeremiah on the Scribes and their lying pen and www.leveltruth.com offer,
considering I suppose you believe the plaintiff is without any shred of blame on these or similar issues and is holier than the defendant

LagosShia:

the issue is not begging on the question on whether it is the same or not. the point being made is about the christian hanky-panky and their tampering of the bible which happens even in modern times and up to our day.

as for whether they refer to the same God,we only believe in One God who is the God of all including Jesus (as).this is what the Holy Quran has to say:

(2:136) Say, [O believers], "We have believe in Allah and what has been revealed to us and what has been revealed to Abraham and Ishmael and Isaac and Jacob and the Descendants and what was given to Moses and Jesus and what was given to the prophets from their Lord. We make no distinction between any of them, and we are Muslims [in submission] to Him."

So what exactly was the hanky panky. I suppose the muslims are squeaky clean with their koran verses. It has no hanky pankies or inconsistencies?
I wouldnt blame the accused party, if the case was, they were trying to dissociate and keep a wide berth from what had become of the name the other party took on from them

davidylan:

struggling to force allah into the bible again arent we?   this bible (that allah claims is corrupt by the way) must be real important to islam with the rate the strive to force themselves into it.

It is quite apparent, the copy was doctored. What a clumsy and sloppy way it was done too - the page's superimposed contrast is apparent

LagosShia:

What is His Name? by Ahmad Deedat

THIS WILL SHOCK YOU CHRISTIANS (HIS NAME IS ALLAH EVEN IN THE BIBLE!):

http://www.islamawareness.net/Allah/wihn.html

WARNING:
Missionaries are prone to distorting and misquoting verses and deliberately mistranslating them.they have perfected the art with the bible so they tend to do that with every other book out there!So please verify all the verses they quote and check the references they present.

So? What is the big deal?
The name might be common to or shared by christians and muslims but you'll have to be naive to assume its the same God for both parties concerned

newmi:

but oga Jo you seem to never cease from getting enough of controversies becos in my opinion this might just be another hit in the all time rating of controversies. hmmmm

Joagbaje:

No be me talk am na. It's the question they've being asking me that I quote paul too much
And that between paul and Jesus who should we believe
That's why Im asking

In hindsight OP question should have been between Pastor Chris, Paul and Jesus, who do you believe

ogoamaka99:

In the story I shared in the thread “grand deception” the person who was responsible for the poisoning was the uncle to the man. His reason was why should the children of his brother progress more than his own children?

The man of GOD who prayed for the elder brother saw what happened and told the man to pray every midnight for three nights. His prayers were that GOD should visit with vengeance on the man that was responsible for the poisoning. Do you know that the very first night that the man embarked on the prayers his uncle came locking at his door complaining that his prayers was disturbing the neighborhood. The man didn't stop his prayers, but rather intensived his prayers and at the end of the three nights of prayers, GOD visited HIS vengeance on his uncle. To cut the long story short his uncle after confessing his atrocities got paralyzed and the following day elder son of the uncle mistakenly drank the wine his father poisoned that he had planned to give to someone else.

The above incident points to the message by Oyedepo captioned “DAY OF VENGEANCE”. The sons of belial criticized that message saying that Oyedepo is a false prophet by teaching about cursing your enemies. By the way who is your enemy? You need to understand who your enemies are. The Bible said in Ephesians 6:12 “For we wrestle not against flesh and blood, but against principalities, against powers, against the rulers of the darkness of this world, against spiritual wickedness in high places”. As a christian, you should never call or regard anyone as your enemy.

Many lives had been cut short by wicked forces. While as many are testifying that their eyes got opened by reason of that message by Oyedepo, the sons of perdition by reason of their lack of understanding thought otherwise.

May I ask you, a witch who lives next compound, who wishes you dead; do you pray that GOD should bless and prosper that witch? Or do you pray that whatever any man or woman had planned for you, let it return to the sender? I really need an answer.!

Is it the principality or is it the personality. The witch/wizard or the woman/man. What to do. You really need to read Matthew 8:28-33 for an answer

is "pastor" Joagbaje a religious acrobat 

Kunbee:

Her bosoms

One thing I know for sure is that bosoms get bigger during pregnancy when they usually become swollen and enlarged