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sonmvayina:
Ourselves....

wow! But how are we to be blamed for what we born to see and was not invented by us sir?

sonmvayina:
Thank you...

That's why I keep hammering on keeping Gods divine laws. They are the torch for our journey in this life...
God created us with the ability and capacity to make choices..so what are we expected to choose from?

Between good and evil
Life and death
Cold and hot
Up and down
Tall and short
Small boobs and big boobs..(lol)
You understand what I mean...that's some attempt at humour. Anyway, which ever one we choose ...there are consequences...

Choose life..

Deuteronomy 30:14-16

According to the Isaiah 45:7 , you made us understand that God created evil. So my question is: who should we blame when plagued by evil created by God according that verse?

Dtruthspeaker:
Creations are neither good or evil, it is the things they do as designated good or evil by The Law Giver and Ruler.

Eg acid used for wounding people (evil) is still the same one used for cars (good) as designated by God.

That is why God is The Law and The Judge and He Who declares that which is good or evil. Not man

but Genesis 1:31 said and saw that everything in his creation was good! Sorry please can you share which bible portion support this your comment

sonmvayina:
Define evil in this context..

remember this

sonmvayina:
Maybe you have another explanation for Isaiah 45:7...

Please do tell..

you tell me first why the bible verse was intruding

sonmvayina:
Lol..

Myself, I should have watched where I was going.

kudos sir! I'm willing to learn more from you

Dtruthspeaker:
I create acid, guns, knives and fire does not mean I like them.

In my hands they have their uses and purposes eg car batteries, killing serpents no noise, no complaint etc But in lordreeds hands, it is cry and cryses coming out from cities, towns and villages.

That is the difference. I wonder if your insanity allowed you to understand.

your point isn't clear sir

sonmvayina:
The one who perpetuated it.....

Life is a choice, we need to learn the boundaries so as to make better choices..

But calamities like thunder, rain storm, Tsunami, tornadoes, famines......etc are all God's doing

So assuming your ware and the tray on your head falls as a result of stone you kicked, which would u blame, the stone that cause the fall or the tray that fell and scattered your wares?

sonmvayina:
Maybe you have another explanation for Isaiah 45:7...

Please do tell..

So with biblical fact here, who should will blame when plagued with evil?

CyberHustle:
Both. To God through godly leaders and to Satan via satanic leaders.

please what's your prove sir?

sonmvayina:
Yes,

Evil was created as a learning tool...

So who are we to blame when evil is perpetrated? The one who created it, or the evil itself?

[quote author=ChocolateWine post=120469326][/quote]please what's your point?

Dtruthspeaker:
There is Only One Law Giver, which is He Who created this world and set it.

Law is a Flemish word which means that which is set.

So The Setter is always The Law Giver!

wow I'm impressed! So please sir may I ask who get right to set standard for humans? What I mean is that who get right to make laws for us?

sonmvayina:
There is only one God and creator of all..
There is only one power in the world.
There is only one almighty God and father..

That is why it is called UNIverse..

All others are called "sons of God", messagesrs, Angels....and the yorubas refers to them as "Orishas" They are not God..

Whatever happens, whether good or bad, happened because it is the will of God...

Read Isaiah 45 from 1 to 25, and especially 14...

good point! But does God intentionally allowed evil, if so is there Biblical evidence to support that?

Eviana:
The God of Abraham, Isaac and Israel is definitely the supreme ruler over this earth....
With His sovereignity, He has allowed a created being--Lucifer/satan-- to have massive dominion over the earth.
What is happening there in Nigeria is that a principality has had and continues to have massive dominion. Spiritual wickedness in high places is what is going on. Until people understand that spiritual warfare is the main thing...people possessed with demons, familiar spirits etc. operating on the earth, and trying to recruit as many as possible, then .....well....need I say more. This thing is spiritual--not fleshly. We, humans, cannot discern cause we don't know Jesus. We open the doors for spirits (either the Holy or fallen) to possess us and then we live our lives influenced by the spirit(s) inhabiting us.
Next comes confusion, chaos, disorder, death.....etc., and the cycle continues for generations.
Be not mistaken though-- God sees all....and is ultimately in control of all.

Many scriptures exist to support this.
Will have to come back to list some.

Ms. Eviana

Thanks, I am still waiting for your Biblical support for your great piece of comment

Dtruthspeaker:
Go and read about Criminal Responsibility

Liability and responsibility is stillrestricted to only acts a person did directly hence, it is always about doings aka Acts and Failure to do all Omissions eg counseling a person to be disobey Law. The disobeyer of The Law is still responsible for his direct disobedience to Law even if it was another person who sold him the idea of breaking The Law!

oh sir! Who's the greatest law giver? Please sir I'm curious

FERNANDEZISBACK:
Why then do you pray to God for him to sought things on earth when Satan is clearly the one in charge?😂 That makes prayer useless..

1chronicles 29:11_12 says_ "Yours, Lord, is the greatness and the power and the glory and the splendor and the majesty, for everything in the heavens and on earth belongs to You. Yours, Lord, is the kingdom, and You are exalted as head over all. 12 Riches and honor come from You, and You are the ruler of everything. Power and might are in Your hand, and it is in Your hand to make great and to give strength to all".
Contradicting itself again...🥱
How come he has all power and Satan still rules the affair of Earth... Or do we say he's an accomplice of Satan's act and gave Satan the power...because according to the the bible book nothing happens without his knowledge! 😂

If I should go by that first clownish Bible verse you attached then that makes god useless since he has no say and control over earth.. right? Then why do you pray to him when devil is clearly in charge? 😂

no bro I think the clownish Bible verses make sense given to the fact that no be him write am and na like that e see am. In fact, 2timothy 3:16 agree with wetin e talk. So the question wey I think say we need ask am be say: Why and how God come allow Satan to control wetin He created?

Dtruthspeaker:
Do you need to go to the Bible to see the things you already see everyday?

Is this one inside the Bible?
https://www.nairaland.com/7545870/unicals-vc-reacts-death-student

Or is it this one?
https://www.nairaland.com/7545792/nasarawa-bomb-blast-56-people

you are not lying, but I still believe there must be some external influence beyond humans for either good or bad, and such entity should be held responsible for it

Dtruthspeaker:
First Satan

Then secondly human beings themselves, for you people love Satan's works so you promote it and increase it.
Now the works are burning you all.

please any Biblical evidence?

[quote author=FERNANDEZISBACK post=120466105][/quote]please sir, can you help us summarise the quoted portion👏

SaintNegro77:
Read 1john 5:19 and John 12:31

but sir how do you explain Daniel 5:21 After reading 1john 5:19 & John 12vs31? Please sir can u throw more light especially on Daniel 5:21 to butter your point

CoronaVirusRelo:
SATAN

why Satan sir, any logical reason? Please I need some controversial response and debate for the purpose of spotting the best mind

Jw.org has really tried in shading more light on this issue. But I am also perplexed on the complexity of stunning explanations from some scholars ( base on my personal research). Please I need more of your input for instance, Nigeria as a country has her own leader who is accountable to the citizenry weather bad or good; so my question is in the face of all th evil permeable in this world, who are we to hold accountable to; and between God and Satan who is the boss??

Mr President Sir, you can't burn the whole house while chasing one rat oh! The initiative of going cashless is a welcome development, but time is needed to implement it with at least 80% of new banknotes circulation. We're suffering 95% of market women here in my area has no business with bank account, and to trade with in a time like this is difficult hence the suffering

socialmediaman:
Buhari is doing what he knows best. If nothing else, people will remember how he prevented a certain heroin trafficker from using money to buy and bully his way into office

Meanwhile, commit to voting at the presidential election, and mobilizing at least 3 more persons to vote

I wonder what more excuses you will give when that same heroin trafficker survived all odd and win same? Now Buari is no longer impostor abii?

BeardedmeatR:
Banks being far away from those places is because, the population and economic activities are low. Their kit and kin that left for Lagos never looked back.. unlike Igbos that must return home at least once every year... even in the face of mounting insecurity.

Let them stop wailing and locate the nearest bank to lodge their money.

you won't understand their pain until you suffer same. So close mouth please!

Workch:
is it betrer to suffer for one month in other or have credible election that can decide your 8years?

trash! Even if you like hype Saint Obi till tomorrow, you can't deceive me about Senior Tinubu. But I dare you Obi is not the one. Know this and have peace!

PrinceOfLagos:
do bank transfer on items bought.

I don't have a single naira note in my pocket . All the ATM machine in my area aren't dispensing. Na bank transfer I dey use pay right now till next week that the new note will be in circulation .

truly, you know get one single sense. So because you can go cashless mean others can too, even the illiterate ones and rural areas where banks are faraway from? Your selfishness, wickedness and sen.se.less.ness stink!

PrinceOfLagos:
Tinubu bullion vans will be emptied before the February election. There won't be room for vote buying this time

God bless President Muhammadu Buhari and the CBN governor Mr Godswin Emefiele

you this boy you are always spewing rubbish. The problem is not the politicians but the common man! Ask your self, whom among the politicians are saint? Bros if you steal onion and I'm able to steal pot, all of us na thief oh... since yesterday for my area people no gree sell for old note, ok, ask them, can I have your account for transfer, no where! And don't forget they're looking for the money and you're looking for the goods but no one is take extra risk hence the suffering. Ask your self again how many rural men and women I know own account in bank talk more of transacting businesses with banks? Stop supporting evil, because the purpose of this lofty policy has been defeated hence, the reason to shift ground

AsomArchitectNG:
Send a message on WhatsApp... Contact in signature

okay Sir

Blaze14k:
Haaa structure of corruption and rigging u mean? Since when have ppl started trusting nigerian system of governance. Nigerians are the best when it comes to deceiving themselves. I never said its a must labour party will win. Buh everyone is keeping there hopes high for a good outcome. Bro if you love to suffer then go ahead and support apc or pdp its non of my business. We will still remain were we are,, suffering and smiling nation. Cant u see food price and petrol price,, dem jazz u?

my friend don't be naive, it does not belong to Obiyusful, Jagaban and Atiku to bring about any changes to that effect_ Jeremiah 10:23. Besides Pitaobi was a two terms governor of his state, he didn't stop " suffering and smiling,,, nor did he stop the hunger level of the poor in the state... " what magic do you think he suddenly posses now? Don't forget I don't support any but by all indication, the current structure stand to favour which is not Your utopian magician Obi!

AsomArchitectNG:
Thank you sir...

The 12m quoted is just for the 3-bedroom bungalow only and doesn't include fencing and concrete stamping on the floor....
That said, it could go higher depending on the quality of materials you want to use for the building and ur taste....

Most times, it's finishing that eats up the chunk of money in building construction... So let's say for example:

If I'm using allumuin roofing, I'll incure more cost than if I'm using stone coated roofing..

Again, if I'm doing pre cast concrete fascia,(parapet) I'll incure more cost than if I'm doing cast-in-situ..

Again, there are varieties of tiles that are cheaper and costlier than others... Same goes for windows, doors, pop as against pvc, screeding as against not screeding, electrical fittings etc...

So you can see that at the end of it,

Mr A can convinietly build this with 12m, while

Mr B who likes luxury and taste will end up spending 18-20m in building same bungalow...

That was why i stated in the first quote that it Depends

you are a genius sir. Please can I form one of your team member for landscaping and gardening🤗

Blaze14k:
When two boxers fight in ring na two of them dey win? Oya empty skull answer

Oxfordgrade: Bola Ahmed Tinubu will lose

Tinubu wining or not is not my headache as not neither of their beneficiary; But one thing I know is that Obiyusful go home and rest. Reason is because the present structure is not in his favour. Blaze 14k: this is a glaring truth!